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What I want to know is what prompted this question

Lilmod,

You said

I didn’t listen to the shiur on the chabad.org website, but from the quote, it doesn’t sound like it was talking about ladies walking in front of men – it was talking about the general concept of “ladies first”.

So I brought that to show ladies first means walk in front from the inverse relationship n the Torah

Additionally I’m thinking that the reason for the heater is so that people shouldn’t get all upset if a woman is walking in front of him into a bus and cause a scene (something common in Israel)

Wow Lilmod,

1) I assumed you to be a man! (A little too lomdish)

2) I’m not saying women aren’t lomdish, just more men are so don’t get upset

3) the chabad.org website isn’t reliable because the Gemara which says men shouldn’t walk behind a woman which came at the same time as Torah shebiksav

4)Google ladies first origin, that will come up but a story will also come up about how it all started (too bad I can’t post links)

5) a Google search brought to this cr topic which is very apropos

http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/walking-behind-a-woman

I have to go now, and it’s very hard to rebut on my phone so until later

Same with me

Especially long distance dating

My only normal first date (all the others were awkward especially since they were in a hotel lobby)

We went to a park and had a picnic, I bought a bunch of bagels and tuna fish, picked her up and walked there we had a great time!

I’m also wondering would shake a woman’s hand? Personally when I’m in that situation I say “sorry, religious reasons” and they’re cool with that, my last professor who is also a dean of the college that I went to tried shaking my hand and I told her that and she was surprised because other Jewish men have.

Additionally not everything is black and white so you can’t say the Halacha follows the tzitz eliezer etc, because if I try hard enough I could find someone that assurs

I’m sorry I didn’t see that post (or at least the part with the title) not sure why

Joe,

A neshoma is a part of Hashem

Gehennom is the separation of the neshoma from its source (that could manifest itself in different ways)

Sparkly,

Just because you’re around them doesn’t mean you understand them

I suggest you should also listen to rabbi orlofsky’s shiur on platonic relationships

Joe,

Are you saying Hashem made evil nishamos

Every neshoma wants to go back to its source and is pained when it cant

Gan Eden the ultimate closeness to Hashem

Gehennom the opposite

Lilmod,

Joseph – not true. btw, I have heard that according to Halacha, since common courtesy nowadays is that the guy let the girl go first, he is SUPPOSED to let her go in front of him even though according to tznius it should be the other way. Apparently, we do believe in chivalry.

You haven’t quoted where to find it and anyways I see that you said anywhere within sight is a problem, usually when someone says ladies first she’s in sight

Lilmod,

So? There are things that override lashon hara too like if it’s l’toeles

Therefore what?

I’m not understanding now, what I understood was “so what, it was sheker, if it brings Shalom to the world them it’s muttar”

Sparkly,

You don’t understand men (especially if he says “ladies first”)

12 step meetings 😉 you can be member #2 in caffeine anonymous

Rav Frand also added that Rav Dovid (I’m not sure who that is, but the guys present probably know) would tell bochurim when they were dating to hold open the door for the girl even though this would entail walking behind her. (although personally, I don’t see why this has to be the case. Why can’t she walk through the doorway and then move to the side?, but in any case, that seemed to be his assumption)

Or why can’t he go first and hold it open for her

Additionally, I remember when I was a bachur and I was walking with a friend to pick up his sister so when we left, I went through the door first and she said “ladies first” to which I replied “not in Halacha” and when we got to their house she asked her father and he agreed with me

Wow! Even I didn’t get such a rough tochachah

Where was this thread? 😉

Ctlawyer,

Coffee Addict………..

No, in essence I don’t have a smartphone. My tablet or Kindle Fire does not have a camera for still or video operations. I have no apps on them either. They are used for Internet for business/legal research and retrieving email sent from the office while I may be at a client or in court.

Apps can be downloaded (even though you choose not to)

A smartphone is a phone with Internet capability

29,

That’s weird, I thought I posted it

Not every place in Israel has kedushah eretz yisrael

There are some places that neither the olei bavel or olei mitzrayim captured

The current president

Ctlawyer,

So the only reason you don’t have a smart phone is because you don’t need it because you have a tablet which takes the place of the smart phone

So in essence you have a smart phone