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zahavasdadParticipant
OTD is people who are PUSHED OUT , not people who have left.
zahavasdadParticipantLeom Blum was Prime Minister of France in the 1930’s
Benjamin Disraeli whose parents converted to christianity when he was 12, was prime minister of Great Britain in the 1870’s . Even though he lived as a christian, he would speak about his jewish roots
zahavasdadParticipantI know some people who married “alternative people” and when they found out, they were devistated. I dont know whose idea the Shidduch was, but the shadchan who arranged these matched should really pursue another profession
zahavasdadParticipantIn any protest, there are 3 groups of people. The people who are there, The people who being protested against , and outsiders who are looking from the outside.
The parade was not seen as being sympathetic from the outside , as it was not seen as an appropriate place for this parade, however the murder of Shira Barki, changed that narrative. Unfortunatly the murderer should have been in jail and was released, he looked charedi and acted like Pinchos. It changed the whole narrative.
Protesting the parade yelling Toeiva, toeiva at the participants might give chizuk to those protesting, however it will be videotaped and posted on youtube and people who really have no opinion will not get a positive vibe from that side. Even if they were opposed to the parade. Many opposed to the parade, felt differntly after the murder of Shira and do feel different when people call other toeiva
zahavasdadParticipantThis is going to sound a bit counter-interutive, but sometimes protests against something backfire even if its what it says in the torah.
There have been protests against chilul shabbos and they dont work and frequently backfire. Protests against movie theaters open shabbos cause more people to go. Rav Elyshiv told people to protest a movie theater in Netanya open on Shabbos and its still open to this day.
Is it worth to protest a Movie theater on Shabbos if more people will go because of the protest (against ‘Relgious Coercion”)
Protesting an “Alternative Lifestyle Parade” might cause people not only not to listen to your view, but cause them to insult the torah as well. They might be quiet if you say nothing, but quote Vayikra and then they will curse out the torah as well and insult it. Causing even bigger chilul hashem
zahavasdadParticipantThere are definatly protests to support people who have been convicted of financial or other white collar crimes
zahavasdadParticipantThe top 4 candidates running for US president all support “alternative forms of partnership”
Running against such policies is not a winning issue anymore. And even related issues like in NC are not winning, NC is paying a big price for related laws
zahavasdadParticipantMany MO Rabbis have come out against it too, Like Rabbi Steven Pruzansky
However it is a problem in the US protesting such things nowadays because you come off as a “hateful bigot”, One woman even R’L used the torah as a weapon against a christian minster demanding to be stoned on the spot for being one .
zahavasdadParticipantBecause of the murder of Shira last year, the parade was seen very differently this year than other years.
July 25, 2016 8:34 pm at 8:34 pm in reply to: Why people become OTD (with the focus on the "why") #1164823zahavasdadParticipantIt is not as easy to be a frum jew as you think. Direct Anti-semitism is not really an issue in the US anymore, but there are other things that are issue.
many jobs require you to work late or on weekends (Sometimes you get make trades, sometimes you cant)
Many people need to have Power Lunches or similar and since it isnt kosher, you cant really participate. You might have a boss who is a woman and you have to be very careful how you behave around her.
Food is not as much an issue in NYC area, but leave NYC and food IS an issue, kosher food is not so easy to get
In general societies response to relgion is Live and let live meaning you can be as relgious or not as you want to be, However you cannot impose your religious belifes on others, you cannot do kiruv on the job, you cannot make comments about Avodah Zarah, “Alternative Lifestyles” or anything else you might have learned in yeshiva, these are grounds for termintion
July 24, 2016 11:59 am at 11:59 am in reply to: Why people become OTD (with the focus on the "why") #1164804zahavasdadParticipantMs Margolese went OTD herself for a while and then came back which is why she wrote the book.
zahavasdadParticipantJust for the record, Nobody was born in the year 1, According to the New Testament a birth occured during the reign of Herod, Herod died in the year 4 BCE.
I think some monk miscalculated when the year “1” occured so thats why it is off
zahavasdadParticipantIsrael supposedly doesn’t deny entry to any Jew.
Not true
Israel famously deported the Mobster Meyer Lansky who tried to make Aliyah
Israel also deported “Crazy” Eddie Antar who was in trouble with the feds
Also Sometimes Israel will not allow Kahanists to enter the country
July 20, 2016 7:40 pm at 7:40 pm in reply to: Within the next 10 years, Israel Will be mostly religious #1160968zahavasdadParticipantSomeone has to provide to money for increased kollel Stipends, Increased Child allowenced and solders for the IDF
Where do you propose it will come from. If there are more learners and less earners, the earners will have to give more , simple economics
July 20, 2016 6:08 pm at 6:08 pm in reply to: Within the next 10 years, Israel Will be mostly religious #1160966zahavasdadParticipantThis is great, however this must be used to 1) stop the draft of Torah learners 2) increase kollel stipends 3)increase child allowances and the like.
Yeah get the working tax payers to have tax increases and more public service, Yeah that will work
zahavasdadParticipantBeing rude to an immigration officer in any country you are not a citizen of is a stupid idea, they have the right to deny you entry and force you to return on the next plane out to your home country.
There is no right to enter any country except the one you own a passport from
zahavasdadParticipantSpeeches should almost always be said in ENGLISH and if for some reason you cannot speak english you should get a proper translator who will translate into english after every few sentances
It is rude to give a speech in any other language without a translator unless the majority of the audience does not speak it.
(If you are in a differnt country, It is proper to speak the language of the country, In France it should be given in French
zahavasdadParticipantJust a suggestion, Seeing graves stones and yeshivas might be a bit boring especially for the younger ones, you either might want to split up for those events or tone them down.
zahavasdadParticipantwho do you think is more reliable to pay the rent with a real job ?
Depends on the person
Is the jew a Averich in Kollel and the non-jew a Wall Street banker
Always ask what the person does for a living before renting
zahavasdadParticipantIn NYC and the immediate suburbs, there isnt a “community” like there is elsewhere. In the MO world there are more centralized schools like SAR which while located in Riverdale serves Westchester and Teaneck.
North Shore High School which serves Great Neck, Roslyn and parts of Queens.
Hebrew Acadamy of Nassau County serves the entire Nassau County (except for 5 towns area ) parts of Queens and Suffolk counties as well.
In the Yeshivish communities many send their kids “OOT” to schools like in Long Beach , Riverdale) and Peekskill where the schools have little to do with the immediate neighborhood
zahavasdadParticipantNo MO school takes Non-Jews. That is downright slander. Maybe there are Solomon Schecters or some other simialr schools that dont check, but MO Schools under Torah Umesorah are strict about only taking Halachic jews (They might take some who arent , but are under going conversion)
zahavasdadParticipantAccoding to onlysimchas BMG is now a Pokemon Gym
zahavasdadParticipantMany times Rabbeim give mussor shmoozes to an audience that they know well and they say things to an audience that they know well. When someone repeats these schmoozes to a different audience they dont translate very well and it backfires .
I dont remmeber all the details, but a big Rav went to a Shiva call of a man who buried his son and said something like how priviledged he was to have had this son for whatever time it was and the father was comforted. Someone nearby heard this and later when to a shiva call under similar circumstances where a man was sitting shiva for his son. Not only was the man not comforted, he made this situation alot worse and people nearby tried to get the man to stop with his “menachem Aveil” and he refused saying he was repeating the Rebbes words.
Just because you heard a schmooze from a Great Rebbe in one situation, doesnt mean you should repeat it in another, It might not translate well and might make things worse
zahavasdadParticipantThere is nothing dangerous about Pokemon go. There have been some people who have done some foolish things, but people do foolish things in all sorts of ways. If they werent being foolish with Pokemon go, they’d be foolish elsewhere. Some people find it enjoyable and actually its healthier because it makes you walk and get exercise (I do have issues with the game making shuls, yeshivas, etc pokestops or Pokemon Gyms, but that is another issue) and others think its stupid. Do what you find enjoyable.
There was a report recently about people getting killed because they were taking dangerous selfies on such things as a side of a cliff. There is nothing dangerous about selfies, however it is foolish to take one on the side of a cliff
zahavasdadParticipantI cant say for sure, but most houses of worship are pokemon stops (Inlcuding frum ones)
zahavasdadParticipantWe do not know exactly what Rav Shteiman was asked, or who asked it. Or exactly what he answered
We are only hearing 3rd or 4th hand of a translation . In many cases Gedolim give different answers to differnet people depending on circumstances and even if this story was related fact for fact it could have been mistranslated
zahavasdadParticipantThere is something seriously wrong if you think wearing is kippa Seruga is “Rebelling”. What would you call tattoing and Body piercing then
zahavasdadParticipantIf it were really meaningless, he wouldn’t be stubborn about keeping it.
Sometimes people just like something better, It might have no halachic meaning, but just an esthetic meaning.
Like wearing a white shirt vs a Polo type shirt. Doesnt have a religious meaning, but the wearer might like the Polo Type better
zahavasdadParticipantI heard an amazing story how Ringo Starr was decended from Noah and Yellow Submarine was passed from generation to generation from the Noah.
The original title was Yellow Floating Ark
July 15, 2016 10:51 am at 10:51 am in reply to: Are Jews allowed to listen to Noahide music? #1215385zahavasdadParticipantCan anyone NAME a Noahide song?
zahavasdadParticipantMost Yeshivas are run by people who know about Chinuch, but dont really know how to run an organization by accepted accounting principles
zahavasdadParticipantSome need to properly read the thread instead of being a troll all the time
I dont know if the OP is suffering from a real chemical imbalance or is just overwhelmed and nobody else here does either. You need to seek professional help and find out which it is.
zahavasdadParticipantif he is worried he has just showed Hashem that he does not believe that Hashem runs the world.
So if the rent is overdue and you cant pay and you are about to get evicted with your 5 children and you dont know what to do. Worrying is assur because it shows that you dont belive in hashem because you 2 month old infant wont have a crib to sleep on tonite
zahavasdadParticipantthe proper torah perspective is to have faith & trust in Hashem that everything will work out & that everything is for the good & then the depression will be removed from you (once it becomes a part of you that your situation is for the good you will realize there is no reason to be depressed no matter what the cause of depression is)
Would you say that if you R’L had cancer, Mental illness is as much a disease as cancer is and can be as deadly
zahavasdadParticipantHow much is Kezays is really is up for debate. One doesnt have to eat a Chazon Ish Kezayis size to be yotezei especially if there are other reasons one cannot eat that size
zahavasdadParticipantBecause the tutiton crisis cannot be solved. It is likely at some point it will collapse as the tutition rates are unsustainable
zahavasdadParticipantThe proper torah perspective is to seek professional help, just like you would if you broke your arm.
zahavasdadParticipantI am sorry, that is the worst piece of advice Ive ever heard on this board
Depression is not just feeling sad, its a real medical condition that is not “cured” by a shabbos.
I dont know if the OP is suffering from a real chemical imbalance or is just overwhelmed and nobody else here does either. You need to seek professional help and find out which it is.
zahavasdadParticipantFrench and Spanish are Romance languages derived from Latin, so essentially taking French , Spanish or another romance language like Portugese or Italian is essentially taking latin
July 13, 2016 11:12 am at 11:12 am in reply to: Within the next 10 years, Israel Will be mostly religious #1160928zahavasdadParticipantThe Israeli election is not exactly a good indicator of charedi population
Satmar for example do not vote in elections and Rav Shmuel Auerbach said there was nobody to vote for and his followers did not vote (Likely costing UTJ a Knesset seat) also not all charedim vote for charedi parties. More than a few voted for mainstream parties like HaBayin Hayehudi and Likud (They know this from election results in Charedi districts especially Bnei Brak
from the 2015 election results in Bnei Brak
United Torah Judaism won 59.35%
Shas 23.97%
Yahad 5.5%
Likud 4.57%
Habayit Hayehudi 2.35%
Zionist Union (Labor) 1.28%
Kulanu 1.15%
zahavasdadParticipantA late model Camry is not a luxury car nor is a sign of opulence
zahavasdadParticipantIf frum jews donated to UJA then they would have the right to dictate how they spend their funds, if you dont donate then you dont have that right
zahavasdadParticipantgavra, and if the family of eight is about to become homeless, do we first give money to the yeshiva or first to insure the family has shelter?
What if the reason they will go homeless is the father is a Rebbe who hasnt been paid in 2 months and fell behind on his rent because he didnt have any money
zahavasdadParticipantVouchers would work except there is the Blaine amendment in most state not allowing it and even if somehow it became legal, It would let the goverment some control over yeshivas and curriculum. Once they give the money they have more say in what is taught
zahavasdadParticipantThe only solution that would work is forcing everyone to pay into a communal fund, but that would never work for many reasons
Among them
1) You cant force non-relgious jews to pay if they live in a religious community
2) The issue of different Hashkafas like Satmar vs MO schools (Do MO’s want to pay for non-zionistc yeshivas that dont teach secular studies vs charedim who do want to pay for secular studies)
3) How do you really know how much money people really have to pay without seeing tax returns, pay stubs and bank accounts
4) Someone might be shunned by MO’s for not paying, will they also be shunned by Satmars for not paying
5) Are you really going to force eldery on fixed incomes to pay
6) Who decides what is “Luxuries” in order to determine what to pay. Should someone give up a new car to pay for the communal fund.
7) and even if you Shun someone and it works, they can just leave and go elsewhere , where they arent shunned . (Shunning is the only real enforcement that there is in the US)
zahavasdadParticipantThe Yeshiva system is in crisis and nobody really can fix it.
The tutitons are too high for most families and Yeshivas arent making enough to pay proper salaries and in many cases ontime salary payments
zahavasdadParticipantMany did not like the frum teenage contestant on Americas Got Talent. Even Howard Stern blushed at his jokes
July 11, 2016 7:18 pm at 7:18 pm in reply to: Within the next 10 years, Israel Will be mostly religious #1160921zahavasdadParticipantBT’s arent as growing as fast as you are led to belive and unfortunatly many BT’s also at some point leave for various reasons
July 11, 2016 5:02 pm at 5:02 pm in reply to: Within the next 10 years, Israel Will be mostly religious #1160916zahavasdadParticipantTens of thousads of jews do not become frum every year. Most like the BT’s are crossed out by the OTD’s and therefore at best a zero sum game (Its possible the OTDers outnumber the BT’s)
And dont count out Zerah Yisroel people, they are a significant number
zahavasdadParticipantA frum couple appeared on the peoples Court
A few frum people have appeared on America’s Got Talent
Some frum people have appeared on jeoprady
A frum girl appeared on Americas Top Model
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