On the background of the Supreme Court’s decision to force the government to explain why Chareidim shouldn’t be drafted to the IDF and the resulting political debate on the matter, HaGaon HaRav Meir Tzvi Bergman spoke sharply against such legislation.
Speaking at an atzeres at the Kollel Chazon Ish last week, the Rosh Yeshivah, a member of the Moetzes Gedolei HaTorah, said: “I want to tell you, I want to announce here from this position – this is now נוגע למעשה. What I want to say is that we won’t agree to anything regarding the recruitment of bnei yeshivos – as the Chazon Ish and HaRav Shach explained.”
“And nothing will help them! No one is the ba’al habayis to be mevateir on the Torah – nothing will help them. And Hakadosh Baruch Hu will have mercy on us.”
(YWN Israel Desk – Jerusalem)
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More telling, why aren’t non-jewish citizens drafted??? They aren’t studying Torah or serving in the IDF ,so they get to go to college, get professions, raise families,etc.etc. while not contributing to the state.Draft them ,not Torah scholars!
The Chazon Ish said that it was only a temporary measure to rebuild what was destroyed in the Holocaust. He also said that someone who is not learning intensively should enlist.
Surely the peleg parasites who anyway are not learning, would be better use of their time, to mandate them into army rather than block streets
Avi K. stop lying. He never said any such thing.
Avi K:
The Chazon Ish never said any of that. Stop the “Religious Zionist” idolatrous lies.
He also told his own sister, who had daughters, that if the Zionists ever came for those girls, even for “only” the Zionists’ “National Service”/”Sherut leumi”, that the girls must literally give up their lives rather than enlist.
There is room for compromise. A distinction can be made between those who object to zionism (conscientious objectors, who should be expected to turn down any offers of financial support from the medinah) and those who support the medinah and accept money from it for learning, and particpate in its political system. The IDF’s accommodation of religious practices only goes as far as tolerating frum zionists, but arrangments could be made if the IDF wanted to (which they don’t, since a major IDF goal has always been to free Eretz Yisrael from the yoke of Torah) to make military service less objectionable (including limiting training to bein ha-zmanim, or perhaps during times when some students take jobs), and plant Hareidi yeshivos along the border (the last thing the zionists want for fear of spreading frumkeit into the most hilonim parts of the medinah). As was shown on Oct. 7, armed (and trained) civilians can be very effective in resisting genocidal attackers while the IDF was busy getting its act together. Given that the Palestinians have given up on the idea of a return to the 1914 status quo ante (Jews as a self-governing minority with limited civil rights, similar to American Blacks under Jim Crow) in favor of a “final solution” (Judenrein from River to Sea), the Bnei Torah in Eretz Yisrael should be more willing to arm themselves and participate in self-defense.
We all agree that not everybody is made to learn. we are not a religion called “Bnei Yeshivos”.
We also all agree that if everyone was Frum we would serve.
this is not a Philosophical argument rather it is a practical question.
Do we trust the idf with our kids.
147 definitly never learnt a word in his life. but that is ok there is a reason why we are called עץ בני תורה, a buckhead am haaretz like you just dosent ever get it. יחזיר לתלמודו!!