In a heated panel discussion on the Ofira and Levinson show that aired on Channel 12 this week, a surprising clash occurred between commentators and spokespersons regarding the issue of Chareidi conscription.
Nimrod Sabah, the spokesperson for Likud MK Dudi Amsalem, and attorney Pnina Yanai, surprised viewers when they sided with Chareidi commentator Yisrael Cohen and strongly defended bnei yeshivos.
“There are more draft dodgers in Tel Aviv than all the Chareidim,” Sabah attacked. “The media hypocritically attacks only the Chareidim—and this is solely to bring down Bibi. Bnei yeshivos are not draft dodgers, but lomdei Torah who protect Am Yisrael.”
Attorney Yanai supported Sabah’s words and accused the public of blatant discrimination.
Cohen turned to Haaretz journalist Chaim Levinson and said, “You’re growing horns from the fact that right-wing spokespersons like Nimrod Sabah are defending lomdei Torah. This is exactly why the Chareidim are with the right—because it has kavod for Torah.”
(YWN Israel Desk—Jerusalem)
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A couple of notes:
1) The fact that those two people defended Chardi’ draft refusal surprises nobody. Nimrod Sabah and Pnina Yanai are hardcore Bibists. They will say anything to keep the coalition together and Bibi in power.
2) Their claims about draft dodgers in Tel Aviv are patently false. We have the data, and 82% of males from Northern Tel Aviv enlist.
Just to give you one data point that shows how cynical their claims are: since the start of the war, 24 soldiers from Tel Aviv (population, 432k) have been killed HYD vs ZERO from Bnei Brak (Population 214K).
@”Haemes or Hasheker?” Sorry, none of your points change the facts. Bibi’s Likud wasn’t very forthcoming in helping the Chareidim in the draft issue, so what’s got to do with being Bibists?
82%, what about the other 18% and other areas of Tel Aviv besides Northern?
24 soldiers from Tel Aviv killed R”L, how does that prove there are no draft dodgers?
Zero from Bnei Brak, firstly, I doubt this is true, because there are plenty of Bnei Brak residents in the army. And so what? In Bnei Brak, through their Torah they protect the soldiers in the battle front, otherwise the death toll in Gaza would have been far higher choliloh.
@VeshamHasheker
You cast aspersions with no substance.
Your “proof” of cynicism is ridiculous! You site how many soldiers died compared to Bnei Brak residents. You imbecile! is dead soldiers what you want? No wonder chareidim dont join.
Lets look at the stats YOU PROVIDED! 82%
so 18% do not. the median age in tel aviv is 34 that means half the population is eligible for army service. 435000/2 *18% = is 39,000 draft dodgers!!!
SO again, their contention, is correct, you have 40,000 dodgers in Tel aviv! and theres an uproar about chareidim?!
Those defending Torah-based exemptions should be careful not to lose the basis for the exemption. Of course, this argument is ridiculous: maybe 20% of T-A residents are not enlisting while 95% of Bnei Braq is not. Maybe some of the latter were not on the call up list.
So, if you use arguments that are not emes, you can not be considered a ben Torah and you will lose your exemption. I wonder whether Tzahal can track down YWN posters for this purpose.
I’ll jump on the bandwagon against “Veshama Haemes”
It says והאמת תהא נאדרת in sotah, I guess this is what it’s referring to
“Their claims about draft dodgers in Tel Aviv are patently false. We have the data, and 82% of males from Northern Tel Aviv enlist.“
Why are you saying NORTHERN Tel Aviv, maybe because you know you’re lying yourself
“ Just to give you one data point that shows how cynical their claims are: since the start of the war, 24 soldiers from Tel Aviv (population, 432k) have been killed HYD vs ZERO from Bnei Brak (Population 214K).”
You know chareidim dont only live in bnei brak right?
Your שקר is showing that it has no legs to stand on