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  • in reply to: Smartphones #1351480
    akuperma
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    A smartphone combines a mobile/portable phone with a computer. Obviously if you object to computers, you would also object to a smartphone. But even if one doesn’t object to a computer, the extreme portability of a smartphone (phone plus computer in one device) means that it tends to take over your life and distract you from anything and everything such as the shiur you are supposed to be attending, or the car that took an unexpected turn and is running you over, or davening (so tempting to check the stock prices while waiting for the shliach tzibur to reach kedusah), or the broken pavement you are about to trip over. Its no coincidence that the stereotype of the “millenials” is someone walking around with a small device in front of their face and oblivious to the rest of the the world. While the content of the internet is an issue with halachic dimensions, the “Smartphone” raises additional issues that aren’t uniquely Jewish or halachic. Among the goyim, one frequently finds them banned in situations where one wants people to pay attention to what they are supposed to be doing.

    in reply to: Why does mayonnaise still come in jars? #1350472
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    I have seen mayo in jars, packets, and squeezable containers. User demand determines which the company chooses to utilize. One should note that jars are the least expensive.

    in reply to: Be honest; do you (and/or does your spouse) iron clothes? #1349975
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    Iron clothes (other than those pressed professionally)??????

    Brings back memories of the days of typewriters and ice boxes and home deliveries by horse drawn wagons (I was a heart-broken toddler when my family moved to a nieghborhood where deliveries came by truck)

    in reply to: Is the shidduch crises real ? #1348361
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    1. Every single person has a shidduch crisis until they get married. It has always been that way, and will always been that way. If a single person isn’t having a shidduch crisis, then we need to worry that something is wrong.

    2. Adam ha-Rishon really had a serious shidduch crisis, and Ha-Shem had to take direct action to resolve. Since then, shidduch crisis seem to resolve themselves with just a little “hashacha pratis”.

    3. If we truely had a shidduch crisis, schools would be closing due to lack of students, and schools would be cutting tuition out of desparation to find students. Obstetricians and Pediatricians would be looking to change specialties to something with more patients. Frum stores selling children’s clothing would be shuttered. Shuls would be quiet and empty without the noise of little children.

    4. Especially since the “Great Recession”, it would be logical if many young people were more concerned about getting a good economic base before starting a family. That always happens after economic crisis, and not just to Jews.

    5. One should remember that due to radical declines in infant and maternal mortality, and extended life expectancies, there is less of a rush to get married. Not too long ago, childbirth-related causes were the leading cause of death for women, most children died before adulthood, and few people survived to their 60s.

    in reply to: Time to reinvent clock #1348052
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    You could make a kosher sun dial but it wouldn’t be as accurate. We are used to paying close attention to minutes and seconds, and a sundial might be accurate withing five or ten minutes at best. That is why they disappeared and were replaced with clocks. Not to mention that sundials never worked at night or when it was cloudy.

    in reply to: Were the native Americans Jews? #1345730
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    There is no archeological evidence of Jews in the New World before 1492. No Hebrew documents, no tribes with a seven day week and one day off, no tribe refusing to eat treff animals (while pigs were from the old world, there are plenty of animals other than cattle and deet). — A scattered Jews is more likely to be a deserter from the Spanish military (which was operating in what is now the southeastern United States) – and he would not have wanted to be found by the English either (England was officially Judenrein until Cromwell, in the mid-17th century). Much of the gibberish on the subject has to do with Christians feeling the need to convert Jews for their concept of a messiah, and so deciding that Indians were really Jews would help (and finding a large population of Jews who didn’t hold by mitsvos would be a validation of “replacement” theology). — As I said, if a person is 100% American Indian (and not a ger/giyoret), feel free to use them as a Shabbos goy.

    in reply to: Were the native Americans Jews? #1345684
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    okay Joseph and Rox: You can avoid using American Indians as Shabbos Goyim.

    P.S. Just because you hear something on the internet, doesn’t mean its true.

    in reply to: Were the native Americans Jews? #1345511
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    Highly unlikely. First, there is no record of any Jews showing up in pre-Columbian America either among the Jews or among the goyim. No tribe has a tradition of having migrated across the ocean. All genetic and linguistic evidence suggests the indigenous people of the Americas came from northern Asia (i.e. Siberia), not the middle east. — It is possible a handful of Jews made it to America “early”, since there might have been a Phoenician ship that made the trip and a Jew might have tagged along, and it is possible that in the 1500s there might have been Jews on a Spanish ship who if shipwrecked would probably prefer living among the Indians than the Spanish (for obvious reasons). — Thus if you know a pure-blood American Indian you can ask him to be your Shabbos Goy with no danger that the person may actually be Jewish and not knowing it.

    in reply to: Here we go again with alleged theft of public funds #1345321
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    Indictment is an accusation, made typically by a prosecutor to a grand jury with no opportunity for the accused to offer evidence or rebut the charges. It proves only that a prosecutor is out to get you, not that you are guilty.
    It is quite possible in a case such as this one that the accused did not understand the regulations (is the accuased a JD and experience in administrative law?), or did not keep books competently (is the accused a certified public accountant). Even if everything a prosecutor says is true, which is not always the case, and perhaps not often the case, there are still defenses such as incompetence (rather than criminal intent) in keeping books and doing paperwork. One should never jump to the conclusion that someone is a “criminal” based on an “indictment.”

    in reply to: Confederate Statues #1342837
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    Benedict Arnold was a traitor to the Americans, and a patriot to the British. That’s the nature of civil wars. Robert Lee was a traitor to the Americans, and a patriot to the Rebels. Most of the traitors (from an American perspective) after the revolution became Canadians, whereas most of the traitors (from an American perspective) after the Civil War remained the USA which is why the US focused on reconciliation and treating them respectfully.

    in reply to: Confederate Statues #1342787
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    Reconciliation. The US wanted to make sure the war was “history.” They wanted no hard feelings. Remember the southern states weren’t merely defeated, they were utterly and totally crushed, their cities were leveled, their economy destroyed to such an extent that, at best, they didn’t recover until the late 20th century. The civil war still impacts many area, such as why no southern university is “Ivy League” (their endowments were wiped out by the war), to the fact that post-1865 northern English is the American standard and souther dialect is considered inferior and a sign of poor intelligence.

    Loyalists, such as Benedict Arnold weren’t a problem since they left and moved to Canada (though the US was always on the brink of war with Canada for the next century, and only became buddies in the early 20th century). It took a century for the US and Britain to become friends again.

    In Britain there was no reconciliation after their civil wars of the 17th and 18th centuries (no statues honoring Jacobites, and Cromwell remained controversial until 250 years over his death) – and the aftereffects of those civil wars are still a major factor in British politics.

    The US didn’t want the losers going around with a chip on their shoulder, and honoring the memory of the fallen rebels was a major part of reconciliation.

    akuperma
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    The radical left hates hareidim. Trump is opposing them, whereas the Democrats embrace them (even when the alt-left engages in deliberate violence against the politically incorrect. The alt-right is harmless, and Trump is making sure they stay marginalized and out of trouble. On other matters, Trump is pretty much as advertised. While Trump would be better off he he stuck to having a kosher phone and skipping the Lashon Hora, hareidim really don’t impose themselves on other people (no matter what the hilonim say — so if Trump wants to get trouble for using his smartphone, its his business).

    in reply to: Let’s just agree to mythologize American history #1341686
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    The myth that is agreed on is that the southern rebels were an honorable opponent (and ignoring that slavery was the major issue), and after the war we all became friends again. Honoring Lee and Jackson was painless since they career soldiers who didn’t own more than a negligible number of slaves (Lee spent most of his career in the army, and his main connection to slavery was an executor of an estate that owned slaves, which he emancipated). The alternative to the myth is to let the old wounds fester. In Britain they had a civil war in the 17th and 18th century, and made no such myths about reconciliation, and they are still have problems pertaining to those wars.

    One doesn’t want losers to go around with a chip on their shoulder, and for winner to gloat is bad policy.

    P.S. And of course the civil war was about slavery, even if most southerners didn’t own slaves. All the compromises suggested focused on slavery. While most northern soldiers had never seem a black before the war, when they ran into slaves when invading the south they had a reaction very similar to how allied soldiers reacted when they discoved the concentration camps (the leaders knew about them all along, the rank and file didn’t, and it gave anti-semitism a bad name in most western countries whereas previously it was politically correct to be anti-semitic). While most northerners were only mildly opposed to slavery in 1861, by 1865 they were overwhelmingly anti-slavery.

    in reply to: The Casualties of Yiddish in Litvishe Chadorim #1341014
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    Rashi – He probably spoke a Jewish dialect of Old French (written in Hebrew letters). That community was destroyed by the Crusades and they moved eastward towards what is today Germany and eastern Europe (which is why there are many French words in Yiddish, such as “bentsch” and “lein” and possibly “daven”.

    Yiddish dying? – The number of children speaking Yiddish has a primary language has been increasing steadily starting with the late 20th century, and non-Torah Yiddish materials (such as Yiddish newspapers) appear stable. Unless the non-zionist hasidim switch languages, Yiddish is not dying.

    Advantages of studying Yiddish (if you aren’t a hasid or a scholar of 19th and 20th century Jewish history) – It would help understand English grammer (which is true of studying any Germanic language, but outside of German the other Germanic languages are significantly less useful to a Jew than Yiddish). While Yiddish grammar is being corrupted by English and Hebrew, Yiddish preserves the complex verb structure also found in English and still has a full set of inflections for gender (though I suspect the “neuter” will drop out under English and Hebrew influences).

    in reply to: Thank You President Trump! #1340898
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    Re: but only far-rightists are likely to commit hate crimes or terrorism against us”

    Actually the “left” is often involved only the authorities treat these as “normal ” crime, ignoring that the anti-Jewish attitudes that encourage them. And the Muslims are now considered “left” but anyone who object to their attacks on Jews is an “Islamaphobe.”

    And if you work outside the Jewish community, you’ll discover that it isn’t the Christians who object to accommodating our religious practices, but the ultra-secular liberals (often Jews).

    in reply to: Thank You President Trump! #1340787
    akuperma
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    1. Trump would do better with a bit of “derekh eretz”. But then again, he’s a reality show star and that’s not to be expected. Given that the “resistance” and “fake news media” (some of which YWN routinely aggregates from, it seems that in the USA, derekh eretz in public life has gone the way of typewriters, ice boxes and phones with dials.

    2. Many of his policies may not be in our communities’ interests, though at least they aren’t as harmful as the increasingly fanatical secularism in the Democratic party. Plus, be definition, we are “deplorable” (clinging to religion and all that), and Trump is the last hope of the deplorables in the factg of a left-wing movement that would openly persecute us.

    akuperma
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    CTLAWYER: Jewish philosophy is similar. Most “welfare” to able body men is given through kollels (they have to show up and learn to get paid) or through make-work jobs. The problem with make-work jobs is that they are very inefficient in a macroeconomic sort of way. One reason the Soviet Union had trouble keeping up with the US was a policy of full employment, so for example, their libraries stuck with card catalogs (providing employment to card typists and filers) while the US switched to online. The US developed machinery, and they provided full employment. Indeed, the “find work for all abled body adults” is a luddite argument, and is similar to those who want to ban self-driving cars . As a lawyer, conside what has happened to the large numbers of clerks, scriveners, cite chckers, loose-leaf filers who are now unemployed due to modern technology – perhaps we can find employment for them in law firms by banning word processing and computerized legal research tools. — But as I said, Jews traditionally pay people to do something useful, and the Americans have the demeaning custom of giving handouts and making the recipient feel like a failure.

    in reply to: White-Nationalist Movement in America #1340037
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    They are not a serious threat. They should be seen as similar to the “flat earth” society. The American right has long been well intgegratged with non-white and Jews. In the southern states, one finds African Americans being elected with support from the “old stock” (meaning descendants of the Civil War losers) whites. The conservative Christian groups are ethnically and racially integrated.

    The left wing media need something to justify that far left’s violent activities so they are focusing on a miniscule group of nut cases. The left wing radicals, who are also very anti-semitic, are much more of a threat since they have broad support from the mainstream media.

    If anyone is going to chase us out of America, it won’t be the “white nationalists”.

    in reply to: The Antifa Alt-Left Extreme Left-Wing Violent Anti-Semites #1340079
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    The establishment media, including the secular Jewish establishment, view the “alt left” favorably and see them as at most being over-enthsiastic in opposing the Trump administration. Their violence, opposition to free speech and freedom of religion, anti-semitism, etc., is willfully overlooked. They are increasingly taking over the Democratic party. The “right” include those who were anti-semitic in the past, but except for some extreme nutcases, the “right” views religious Jews favorably.

    in reply to: The Casualties of Yiddish in Litvishe Chadorim #1339759
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    “More Israelis speak English than non Israelis speak Hebrew” – that ceases to be true if you limit the population to Bnei Torah (and I’m including Religious Zionist yeshivos as Bnei Torah). And one has to remember that the quality of Torah scholarship in Hebrew is vastly higher and more comprehensive. And in the long run, Jewish survival has always been a function of what happens to the Bnei Torah, so out future is in Hebrew, not English.

    akuperma
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    mw13: The American aid to Israel provides jobs for thousands of American workers making equipment that would otherwise be made by Israeli workers. In addition, Israeli improvements and technologies flow to the US readily thanks to the aid. Remember that the most significant weapon now in use by the American military is the drone, which was an Israeli invention. While it would no longer matter now the US is energy independent and exporting oil, for many years the Israelis would have seriously weakened their enemies by taking out the Arab oil industry, which would have crippled them economically, and seriously hurt the Americans. Note that in 1947-48, when American military aid would have helped Israel, the US prohibited such aid – and subsequent aid was always based on American self-interest.

    in reply to: The Casualties of Yiddish in Litvishe Chadorim #1339255
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    Re: “English is the common language of Jews today not Yiddish.” Actually, among frum Jews the common language is Ivrit. And that doesn’t change with definitions of “frum”, i.e. whether one define frum as arguably Shomer Kashrut and Shomer Shabbat , or strictly “hareidi”. While Israelis with university degrees are fluent in Israel, among orthodox Jewish Israelis such degrees are less common, meaning fluency in English is less common.

    Yiddish is the native language of a significant part of the hareidi community, but has lost most of its significance otherwise. It should be noted that from an orthodox perspective, Yiddish was never a language of scholarship or serious writing.

    akuperma
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    In all fairness, much American foreign aid, including most of what the Americans give Israel, is in the form of credits to buy American goods. Thus the Israeli military pays to keep American workers employed making weapons that are in fact more expensive, and perhaps inferior, to what would be made by Israeli workers but for the subsidies in the form of foreign aid. It’s hardly charity. If this is done outside of a foreign aid program it would be considered selling goods below cost, and would violate the international law prohibition of “dumping.”

    in reply to: The Casualties of Yiddish in Litvishe Chadorim #1338230
    akuperma
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    1. I believe many schools gave up teaching in Yiddish since they ended up teaching Yiddish rather than teaching Torah. Where you have Yiddish speaking communities (i.e. where the parents speak Yiddish to the children, and the children speak Yiddish when speaking with the friends), the parents will probably object to non-Yiddish speaking students in their schools. We probably need frum materials for teaching Yiddish as a second language, since most existing ones are teaching the “secular” Yiddish that existed 80 years ago, rather than the modern Yiddish spoken largely by Hasidim in the 21st century.

    2. The common language of Jews has always been Hebrew. Jewish secularists were desperate to find an alternative to Lashon Kadesh, but even in the pre-WWII period, Hebrew remained the common language and the language of Jewish scholarship and learning.

    3. All living languages have dialects. Yiddish was considered a German of dialect before World War II. Arguably the zionist “Ivrit” is no more than dialect of Lashon Kodesh, and in Eretz Yisrael several dialects clearly exist (with differences in vocabulary, grammer, word order, and how certain letters are pronounced).

    in reply to: The Casualties of Yiddish in Litvishe Chadorim #1338118
    akuperma
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    I suspect the parents of children for whom Yiddish is the language at home, and what they play in, will not want children who are Anglo-phones at home to be in the same school.

    in reply to: Should We View Satmar Growth and Anti Israel Indoctrination as Concern #1337922
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    Not to seem rude, but when I look at the hareidi communities in America, not just Satmar, I see wide spread entrepreneurship. Yes there are large numbers employed by the community, but perhaps since I grew up as a secular Jew, in a community where most people stay off the payrolls due to academic study for prolonged periods, and many more make their living off of government salaries, I don’t see that as problem. One also has to remember that in any population with many children, and that values education, a high percentage of the population will be engaged as professional teachers. Of course one could argue that a frei Jew spending ten years getting his PhD in English and spending his career teaching English literature is “productive”, but someone spending the same time specializing in Limudei Kodesh is a “parasite” – but that would reveal the person making the charge as a prejudiced bigot (at best, and an anti-Semite at worse).

    in reply to: Should We View Satmar Growth and Anti Israel Indoctrination as Concern #1337889
    akuperma
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    If Medinat Yisrael falls (not impossible,especially if the Muslims ever unite, and if the western world including the United States becomes more influenced by growing Muslim populations and openly supports the Muslims against Israel), Satmar will be seen as the ones who were right all along.

    If the Medinah manages to make peace with the Muslims, which will allow normal relations and most importantly, abolition of conscription, Satmar will be irrelevant politically, and will become just another hasidic group.

    However as long as Eretz Yisrael is ruled by zionists committed to war with the Muslims, and to coercing Jews to distance themselves from Torah, Satmar will remain politically important.

    in reply to: WWIII #1337601
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    Not likely. The worst that might happen is Korean War 2.0, which will probably be over within a few hours (Trump, being a non-politician, doesn’t play by the rules). The Muslims are too busy killing each other to do anything too annoying. Putin probably has decided that antagonizing Trump is too risky.

    So if you have some work due in two weeks, get to work.

    in reply to: The Marine Corps Mystery #1335811
    akuperma
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    Some countries call them “Naval Infantry”. Originally ships fought each other with the goal being to board the enemy ship and capture it (BTW, the crew got bonuses based on what they captured, similar to pirates even though this was government work). Countries whose armed forces were created once boarding become unlikely, such as Israel, are unlikely to have a separate marine (navel infantry) unit.

    in reply to: In Defense of Smoking #1335047
    akuperma
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    RebYidd23 – It has yet to be shown that cannabis will result in reduced stress on pension and social security benefits (its hard to do a longitudinal study on something that is banned). However few things can match tobacco when it comes to killing people just at the point when they are about to switch from net savers (paying into pension plans, saving for retirement) to net spends (consuming assets while retired).

    in reply to: In Defense of Smoking #1335006
    akuperma
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    From an economic perspective, smoking gives parnassah to tobacco farmers and those who manufacture that which is smoked. It also reduces the burden on social security and other retirement systems by reducing the number of elderly people who need to be supported (indeed, in an ideal way, as smokers get killed only at the end of their productive years).

    in reply to: What kind of people do you like? #1334563
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    I prefer those descended from Adam Ha-Rishon and Chava. Consider it a bias for family members.

    in reply to: Sweet 16 #1333087
    akuperma
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    I suspect it had to do with the age of consent (the age at which a woman is allowed to marry, and to consent to intimate relations). Among Jews, that age is 12 (for girls) and we often make a fuss about it – even that under Dina Malchusa Dina we do hold that way, de facto. The fact that in most states the age in now 18 (younger girls have to get permission, often from a judge) is irrelevant.

    in reply to: Sweet 16 #1333088
    akuperma
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    As for why there is no similar party for boys among the goyim, YWN “censorship” (good taste) rules preclude a discussion . Among Jews, where entering manhood involves reaching new levels of Torah and Mitsvos, we make a party when boys turn 13.

    in reply to: Market hits record high under Trump Administration #1333086
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    it isn’t clear how much control the president has over stocks. If one uses the Dow Jones to grade presidents, then it appears that Obama was probably the greatest president ever. Factors to consider are the value of the dollar ( a weak dollar makes companies with large non-US deals look bigger), and low interest rates (controlled by the Fed, and indicative of a weak economy).

    in reply to: Is This True? #1332994
    akuperma
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    Not to mention undermining social security and hurting people with term life insurance.

    in reply to: Gender in Hebrew #1332924
    akuperma
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    RebYidd: Be happy Hebrew has only two. Most Germanic languages, including Yiddish, have three. Some languages have more. English is actually one of few languages with very little gender (we still have it for third person pronouns, but not for common nouns, verbs, adjectives, etc.. Being “spoiled” by English’s simplicity means that grammatical gender is a problem for Anglophones.

    in reply to: Gender in Hebrew #1332816
    akuperma
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    Most languages have genders. It isn’t a strict correlation with “male” and “female”, but its an easy way to remember them. English lost most of its genders during the middle ages. Many Germanic languages have three genders. Some have more (i.e. more than three classes for words, and related grammatical forms).

    While some secular (and I suspect, monolingual) feminists get crazy over this, its just a set of rules. Like computer programming. It isn’t worth philosophizing over.

    in reply to: If you can go to war at 18, you should be able to drink at 18 #1331334
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    In the 19th century, boys were recruited in their early teens, and sometimes younger. That is still the case in many countries (even if the United Nations set a minimum age for combat as 18).

    Even in the US, the minimum driving age varies considerably. In rural areas, it is often much younger than 18, especially for driving farm vehicles. Insurance companies, based on driving records, charge tremendous amounts extra for younger drivers suggesting some evidence based reasons for a higher driving age.

    Many countries have no drinking age. One should remember that the US is one of the few non-Muslim countries to ever make serious effort to ban alcoholic beverages. Given the stereotype of intoxicated college (and yeshiva) students, there appears to be justification for society’s concerns.

    Of course, Bnei Torah generally have better things to do than play soldiers, never drink in excess except maybe on Purim (and not all that much then), and only need to drive to get to yeshiva or shopping — so this thread should be irrelevant to YWN readers.

    in reply to: “There is no solution” to the Israel conflict: Jared Kushner #1331470
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    The only solution would, to a modern Orthodox such as Kushner, be an example of the cure being worse than the disease. Once the Jewish community of Eretz Yisrael is dominated by hareidim (ignoring that this would collapse the economy, which is based on the seculars), peace would be obtainable. Hareidim (think Satmar, or Yolish Krauss, not those who are hareidi only in terms of lifestyle but are part and parcel of the zionist movement especially in terms of schnorring from them) are content to be left alone and feel no need to rule over the goyim. If hareidim come to control Eretz Yisrael, they can agree to being an autonomous minority in an Arab Islamic state. The war began when the Arabs realized that the zionists were taking over the Yishuv from the haredim, and wanted political control – which will always be unacceptable to Arab Muslims. Give up the desire to rule over other peoples, and the war is very endable. A totally hareidi community is non-threatening to the Arabs and can live in peace with the goyim, albeit as second class citizens – though to the modern Orthodox having to become hareidi and give up the perqs of a modern lifestyle is a worse case scenario.

    in reply to: If you can go to war at 18, you should be able to drink at 18 #1331041
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    Armies, especially if they couldn’t conscript people, often relied on strong drink to get enllistments (the recruiter paid for some drinks at the pub, and you woke up in the morning to find out you had enlisted). So far, the US relies on patriotism and perhaps economic self-interest to recruit soldiers.

    in reply to: Government Attack on British Yeshivos #1331039
    akuperma
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    If the US ends up with a Democratic president with a solid Democratic majority in the Congress, we can expect similar problems here. The best hope is that Trump gets to replace several liberals on the Supreme Court, and that is an “iffy” proposition.

    in reply to: Protection from Crime in Dangerous Communities #1330602
    akuperma
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    1. Move to an area where you see people leaving stuff on their porch or lawn, and where as you go to shul in the morning you can see women walking or jogging. The preceeding are true of all the frum neighborhoods in Baltimore.

    2. Avoid anyone doing illegal drugs. They tend to attract criminals.

    3. Check the crime statistics (usually available online) and compare your neighborhood with others. Ignore dire warnings from anyone who might benefit from promoting fear of crime.

    4. Avoid countries having or recovering from civil disorders as they usually have messed up law enforcement.

    in reply to: How can I learn Yiddish? #1327512
    akuperma
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    YIVO was never “official”. It was a “wannabee” that few Yiddish speakers took seriously (perhaps due the fact they tried to create a standard dialect of Yiddish based on vowels from one dialect, consonants from another, and grammer from a third). YIVO’s version of Yiddish is useful in some universities, solely for the purpose of teaching people who have no desire to communicate with native speakers. Indeed, YIVO Yiddish is similar to Esperanto. How useful a language academy is can be debated (note the difficulty of the Hebrew and French academies in getting people to refrain from adopting English terms).

    Living languages constantly evolve. Note how English has lost its 2nd person singular (thou), its subjunctive (“I be”, “if I were”) not to mention its neuter gender. Living languages absorb words from other languages. Due to extreme traumas (e.g. the holocaust, and the mass migrations of the last 150 years), Yiddish has changed radically. Also note that many native speakers of English have trouble with literature produced a few centuries ago (to most Americans, Jane Austen and the Declaration of Independence seem quaint, and Shakespeare is almost incomprehensible). There is no such think as a “pure” language, and the only unchanging languages are dead ones.

    in reply to: Teimanim With Multiple Wives #1327419
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    I believe that almost all non-Ashkenazim living under Islamic rule would have been able to have multiple wives. During the colonial era, the British and French generally allowed local marriage laws to stay in force. So for most non-Ashkenazim the first restrictions on polygamy would have been when they moved to Eretz Yisrael.

    in reply to: Teimanim With Multiple Wives #1327058
    akuperma
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    Joseph: As I said the issue is subject to debate. Through the mid-20th century, most Ashkenazim lived in countries whose laws prohibitted polygamy, and with criminal penalties for extramarital relationships (e.g. between a husband and a second wife). If western countries legalize polygamy (in part due to Muslim complains that anti-polygamy laws are discriminatory, in part since their religious basis is meaningless to a secular society, and in part since “living together while unmarried” is now lawful there is no logic to penalize “living together while married”), I suspect it will reopen the debate. Note that very few men could support multiple wives, put in an industrial society it might work out especially some some wives held jobs while other provided free child care for the ones with the jobs. Another factor would be if there was shidduch crisis caused by male mortality rising rapidly (a military fiasco in Israel could have that effect) or if it developed that males were likely to be OTD than females – but absent such I doubt polygamy would ever be popular.

    in reply to: Teimanim With Multiple Wives #1326082
    akuperma
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    What the halacha is, is subject to debate. Some people argue that the halachic ban on polygamy should not apply and so far that is not a widely held position. If the United States were to formally recognize polygamous marriages, the halachic debate would become much more “interesting”. At present, America does not consider a second wife (with the first wife still married to the husband) as anything more than the husband’s “girl friend”, with no legal status at all.

    Under American law, the first marriage is valid and the second marriage is consider void (i.e. only the first wife can be covered on a joint tax return, and she inherits the spousal share, and only the first wife can own a house as a tenant by the entireties.). However since American law no longer criminalizes consensual intimate relationships, it isn’t clear that criminal bigamy laws would be upheld, complicated by the issue as to whether this is a religious freedom issue.

    in reply to: How can I learn Yiddish? #1325592
    akuperma
    Participant

    zahavasdad: Several languages changed alphabets in the 20th century, largely as a way to prevent the population from being able to read traditional literature and limit them to reading the new script used in the books the government wanted them to read. The support for changing from the Hebrew script to Roman script was considered by secular Jews as a way of encouraging Jews to get away from Torah. Russia switched several languages in their territories from Arabic script in order to distance the populations from Islam (Turkey did likewise). For Yiddish and Hebrew, opposition from frum Jews was a major factor, To make such a change work, the government has to be able to use extreme methods to prevent people from using the form script (e.g. gulags, executions, etc.).

    in reply to: How can I learn Yiddish? #1325479
    akuperma
    Participant

    “Yiddish for dummies” is also based on Yiddish as it was a century ago, when most Americans who spoke Yiddish were secular (or at least “otd” as we now say). A major change is the American English and Israeli (zionist) Hebrew have replaced German and the Slavic languages as major influences on vocabulary and grammer. Also, modern 21st century Yiddish is a lot “cleaner” (reflecting the usage among hareidim).

    in reply to: How can I learn Yiddish? #1325435
    akuperma
    Participant

    Re: cholent

    Yiddish has no words of its own, many words come from Hebrew with a spice of Aramaic, many come from German, some come from French, some come from slavic languages, many come from English.

    English also has no words of its own. Many come from German (old Anglo-Saxon), and many come from French (Norman French in paricular). Others come from a variety of languages, including Hebrew and Yiddish.

    If “cholent” isn’t a Yiddish word, what is?

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