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  • in reply to: Rumor about Ivanka Trump Spurs conversation about Geirus #1302924
    Avi K
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    Mammela, tzedakt mimeni. Sorry, Wolf.

    in reply to: Rumor about Ivanka Trump Spurs conversation about Geirus #1302884
    Avi K
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    Mammele. where do I call her Ivana?

    Wolf, a motzi shem ra is someone who libels or slanders. therefor, you cannot be a motzi shem ra and correct.

    Mod, why all the editing? I know that I did not write anything particularly bad.

    in reply to: Pilgrim Jews #1302412
    Avi K
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    CTl, I would have thought that as a New Englander you would be a Red Sox fan.

    in reply to: Rumor about Ivanka Trump Spurs conversation about Geirus #1302209
    Avi K
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    Shauli, Mentsch1 wrote that.

    Edited

    in reply to: Pilgrim Jews #1302188
    Avi K
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    CTL, what about weasel words (e.g. “effective”, “constructive”) or the famous, non-existent “reasonable man”. In fact, George C. Christie wrote an article in the Duke U Law Review titled Vagueness and Legal Language and Timothy A. O. Endicott wrote a book called Vagueness in Law that argue that vagueness is the Law’s stock in trade.
    What about saying that nobody goes to a certain restaurant because it is too crowded? LOL (BTW, for what it is worth Yogi passed away on Yom Kippur night).

    in reply to: Why New York is the best! #1302184
    Avi K
    Participant

    Joseph, also much higher living costs and taxes.

    in reply to: Religious Coercion in Israel #1302183
    Avi K
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    R4, I do not know that people go to other countries just to get divorced. Of course, if an Israeli couple lives abroad they can divorce according the laws of the country. For this reason, some rabbis reportedly look for witnesses who are not halachically qualified when marrying non-observant couples.

    ZD, the problem is if they have a halachic to please their parents and then a civil divorce. BTW, there is civil divorce in Israel for couples from different religious communities or other couples who married abroad but whose marriages are not recognized by any religious community (e.g. toeva couples).

    in reply to: Rumor about Ivanka Trump Spurs conversation about Geirus #1302179
    Avi K
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    Wolf, you are motzi shem ra . If you are not a dayan you are paskening without a license. Anyone who says otherwise is 100% incorrect.

    Joseph, yes, his conversion is valid (SA YD 268:2 and 12).

    in reply to: Why New York is the best! #1301577
    Avi K
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    Golfer, YW. Howevere, the Geula actually comes in stages (Yerushalmi Berachot 1:1). Since 5708 we have been in the Geula mode. Now Israel is an major economic player and if Netanyahu makes good on his plans for further deregulation it will become a world powerhouse. We are also nearing the point where a majority of the Jewish people will live here. This means major changes both on the spiritual and halachic levels.

    in reply to: Pilgrim Jews #1301547
    Avi K
    Participant

    CTL, OK, OK. There were almost no day schools. I guess if you would be alone in a room you would not tell someone on your cell phone that nobody is there.

    ZD, not correct about the Bund. Anilevitz, Zuckerman and Lubetkin were HaShomer HaTzair. Pawel Frenkel of the Jewish Military Organization was a Beitarnik.

    in reply to: Rumor about Ivanka Trump Spurs conversation about Geirus #1301534
    Avi K
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    Sarah, there is a difference between choosing a school and a shul. Parents who are Conservadox might well choose an Orthodox shul for various reasons (close to their home, more spiritual, Conservative goes too far) but send their kids to public school for economic reasons.

    Avi K
    Participant

    Rav Elliezer Melamed, the rav of the yishuv and rosh yeshiva, wrote the following:

    Recently, a troublemaker distributed libelous materials accusing Tommy Waller, an American Christian, of being a missionary. This despite the fact that Tommy has been actively recruiting Christian volunteers for Israel for ten years, and not a single Jew claims that Tommy or any of the thousands of people he has brought here have tried to undermine their faith. Therefore, I feel it is incumbent upon me to speak on his behalf.
    Out of an abiding faith in the uniqueness of the Jewish people and in the Divine mission to settle the Land, Tommy has rallied support for Israel from American Congressmen and Senators. The head of the Shomron Regional Council, Mr. Gershon Mesika, told me that Tommy’s activities have been very influential. Each year, through the summer, he organizes groups of Christians who love Israel to volunteer here. As he is a big believer in family values, many of the volunteers come with their entire families, including the young and the elderly. In recent years, at the request of the Regional Council, the Har Bracha settlement has hosted the volunteers on a hilltop near our community. From this base, the volunteers set out to work in vineyards and orchards throughout the Shomron.
    Because of our difficult history with Christians, and due to concerns about possible missionizing, I felt it necessary to meet with Tommy. I wanted to have an upfront discussion with him about precisely what his positions were. At the same time, I wanted to convey a Jewish position without kowtowing or obsequiousness.
    In the course of our conversation, I asked him: “If a Jew were to come before you and ask you whether it is better to be a Jew or a Christian what would you tell him?” He responded: “I would tell him to be a Jew!” Tommy added that he had not always thought this way. Originally, like other Christians, he was interested in everyone becoming Christian, but eventually he realized that this earlier position was the result of ignorance. Now, following his exposure to the Jewish renaissance in the Land ofIsrael, he wishes for all Jews to observe the Torah and mitzvoth.
    I asked Tommy what led him to dedicate his life to bringing Christian volunteers to Israel. He told me that he read Yeshayahu 61:5: “Strangers shall stand and pasture your flocks; aliens shall be your plowmen and vine-trimmers.” This greatly moved him, and he said to himself: “Maybe I can be the one who is privileged to fulfill this holy verse!” Ever since then, he has encouraged people to visit Israel and to help Jews work the land.
    Every summer Tommy brings hundreds of volunteers, some for a week and some for longer periods. They bring us greetings of peace and friendship from tens of millions of Americans who love us, and when they return home they serve as loyal ambassadors for Israel.
    For the Sake of Heaven
    When I began to look into this issue a number of years ago, I publicly declared that I would not accept any money for myself or my yeshiva from Christian friends of Israel, so that I could research the subject without a conflict of interest. I also made a statement to that effect in my column about two years ago.
    In the meantime, at the initiative of a Jewish go-between, the Har Bracha settlement received such a donation, 120,000 shekels which it used towards building a park that cost over half a million shekels. When I heard about this, I asked the secretary general of Har Bracha to do me a favor and return the money. This was not because I felt there was any halakhic problem with accepting it, but because I wanted our positive attitude towards Christian philo-Semites to be purely for the sake of heaven. The righteous secretary general apologized and said he had not thought I had included the settlement in my commitment. (In truth, while I am the rabbi of the settlement, I cannot make commitments for it.) To my delight, he nevertheless responded positively to my request and returned the entire amount.

    Rav Shalom Gold and Rav Dov Lior disagree. Their views can be seens on the website Jewish Israel.

    in reply to: Why New York is the best! #1301202
    Avi K
    Participant

    “If the Jew thinks that Berlin is Jerusalem … then a raging storm wind will uproot him by his trunk and subject him before a faraway gentile nation… a tempest will arise and spread its roaring waves, and swallow, and destroy, and flood forth without pity. Therefore, you will not be calm, nor shall there be a resting place for the sole of your foot is a blessing, for as long as the Jewish People are uncomfortable in exile, they will yearn to return to their homeland.” – Meshech Chochma Vayikra 26:44.

    in reply to: Rumor about Ivanka Trump Spurs conversation about Geirus #1301192
    Avi K
    Participant

    Neville, Orthodox shuls (that is to say they have a mechitza and use an Orthodox siddur) with non-Orthodox members is nothing new. As I posted in the “Pilgrim” thread, immigrants cast of observance straight away for economic reasons. They and their children (when they went to shul- generally for Yizkor out of respect for their parents) wanted the familiar forms of worship because they at least realized that a shul is. However, the people who go to these shuls are not MO. They are non-observant Jews who want a communal setting and have a natural conservative (as opposed to Conservative) outlook. MO is a halachic/hashkafic sheeta.

    in reply to: Pilgrim Jews #1301188
    Avi K
    Participant

    CTL, I did not write that there were absolutely none. There were a handful but it was a drop in the bucket. The fact of the matter is that while at the time of the Great Immigration the vast majority of East European Jews were observant for the vast majority Shabbat observance went out the window already in the first generation for economic reasons. There were even vatikin minyanim on Shabbat for people who went to work! The second generation through out most of the rest but remained culturally Jewish because of the spread of discrimination. This was answered by Jewish fraternities and sororities, Jewish neighborhoods and Jewish business firms (also new merit-based civil service rules made some public offices Jewish-dominated). The third and generation did not keep anything but still generally married within the group Now that is also out. This has been compared to the four sons. The chacham is the immigrant, the rasha is his son who wanted to be American and throw off “foreign ways”, the simple is his son who does not know very much except for what little he heard from his grandfather, the son who does not know how to ask is his son who is totally ignorant Jewish and now there is a fifth son who is not even present.

    Joseph, actually “Torah uMadda” is an extension “Torah im Derech Eretz”. In fact, the Hildesheimer Rabbinic Academy in Berlin required the equivalent of an academic HS diploma and students also studied in the university. Amongthem were Rav Soloveichik and the last Lubavitcher rebbe (who woirked as an electrical engineer in the Bklyn navy Yard before becoming the rebbe).

    in reply to: Religious Coercion in Israel #1300048
    Avi K
    Participant

    MW13, I am not a spokesman for anyone but myself. Moreover, of those groups you mentioned none believes that we should not force anybody to what is right except the libertarians, who are now mostly organized (they are not fully libertarian as they have some nationalistic planks) as the Zehut party under Moshe Feiglin. The rest do believe in forcing people to do what is right – in their opinion. It just so happens that this is a point of intersection.

    in reply to: Pilgrim Jews #1300050
    Avi K
    Participant

    CTL, true but RJS had to fight fiercely to get students.

    in reply to: Pilgrim Jews #1299822
    Avi K
    Participant

    CTL, your family is a shining exception. The Ridbaz, in fact, left Chicago declaring that Judaism would never take hold in America (on the other hand, the main claim of Mordechai Kaplan was that mitzvot such as Shabbat and kashrut had to be “relaxed” so that Jews could make a place for themselves) .

    Sweatshops had signs “If you don’t come in on Sat don’t come in on Mon”. Until Torah uMasora was established after WW2 there were no day schools (all of the yeshivot you cite were for older boys – there was nothing for girls) and then they faced enormous opposition from parents who wanted their kids to be “Americans”). Everyone went to public schools, which were bastions of conservatism but also places for inculcating Xtian values. Even when I went to public school in the Sixties there was singing of religious songs near Dec 25 (I was able to get away with not singing by virtue of the fact that there were enough kids to enable me to hide in the crowd).

    It should also be noted that merely coming to America at the time was often a rebellion against the rabbinic establishment as only the strongest received heterim. Their children very quickly through off everything. For example, a survey of Brownsville, Brooklyn (then an almost completely Jewish neighborhood) in 1940 showed that only 9% of the Jews went to shul regularly (Jews in Gotham p. 54). The growing discrimination against Jews in employment certainly hastened this trend. It was hard enough for a secular jew to get a good job. In fact, despite being at the top of his class in Harvard Nat Lewin was rejected by a series of firms when he brought up Shabbat. Finally he did what many others did and went into government service before opening his own firm.

    in reply to: Religious Coercion in Israel #1299742
    Avi K
    Participant

    This is religious coercion? What about the fact that there is no civil divorce in Israel (BTW, I am in favor)? What about Shabbat closing laws (I am also in favor)? What about the Kotel controversy (I am against letting the Reformers have a place). All governments work by coercion to enforce what is considered proper behavior in that society. This the not only the prerogative of a bet din kavua but also of the secular authorities (Avnei Nezer YD 312:50 – http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=1345&st=&pgnum=337&hilite=).

    in reply to: Rumor about Ivanka Trump Spurs conversation about Geirus #1299749
    Avi K
    Participant

    Neville,
    1. I do not know all of the details nor am I a rav so I cannot condemn or condone their alleged actions.
    2. Why were were you complaining about her giur before it was”cool”? Are you against accepting gerim? Are you a dayan?

    Lesschumras, I heard about a case where the ger (a man) said that he would not marry a woman who would marry a goy. There is also a story about a goy who decided to keep Shabbat but carry his siddur to shul so as not to be chayav mitta. When his Jewish neighbor pointed out that there was an eruv he said “You rely on that eruv?”

    in reply to: Rumor about Ivanka Trump Spurs conversation about Geirus #1299490
    Avi K
    Participant

    Joseph, I never posseled any gerut as I am not qualified. However, Conservative rabbanim are not rabbanim. OO is heading in that direction.

    Akuperma, you are motzi shem ra on Rav Lookstein. As for your other complaints, please cite sources including the circumstances in which they were said. More HSR. You must go to every MO Jew in the world and obtain forgiveness.

    Joseph, actually there was no record that Borokowsky actually converted nor was there a record of the couple having had a Jewish wedding (they were “married” in a church prior to the alleged conversion). For an impartial discussion of the issues see The Langer Case in Contemporary Halachic Problems vol. 1 (available on-line).

    in reply to: Rumor about Ivanka Trump Spurs conversation about Geirus #1298958
    Avi K
    Participant

    Joseph, what about your position? How do you presume to possel Ivanka Trump’s conversion. Answer the question and stop stonewalling!

    in reply to: Rumor about Ivanka Trump Spurs conversation about Geirus #1298658
    Avi K
    Participant

    Nechamasara, who says hat Mashiach will do that? Rambam only says that he will fight Hashem’s wars, rebuild the Bet HaMikdash and wipe out Amalek. Chamim say (Eduyot 8:7) that Eliahu, who also will come, will not clear up those considered pasul or disqualify those considered kosher but only to make peace. Even Rabbi Yehoshua , who is the most machmir, only says that he will push away those who came close by force.

    Neville,
    1. The objection should be to the obsession with their religious observance. I do not think that the media considers them role models. Rather, this is part of their war against Trump (BTW, I find it interesting that none of them talk about JFK’s obstruction of justice in the Sherman Adams case).
    2. The chillul Hashem (if there was one – I seriously doubt that it bothers gentiles and non-observamt Jews) can be corrected by a limmud zechut. In any case, it is prohibited to rebuke someone publcily without meeting all of the conditions set forth by the Chafetz Chaim. In particular, the arm chair poskim do not know the details of why they ddi what they did. They are either woefully ignorant of the complexities of Halacha or simply enjoy cutting down others. You have also not answered my question regarding slumlords and people who have engaged in corrupt activiites. Therewas no thread, for example, about a certain Orthodox politician who was convicted of corrupt activities. This was a far greater chillul Hashem.
    3. Don’t be disingenous. This whole thread is titled “Rumor about Ivanka Trump Spurs conversation about Geirus”. I persobnally do not understand how the mods allowed it.

    in reply to: Rumor about Ivanka Trump Spurs conversation about Geirus #1298516
    Avi K
    Participant

    Neville,

    1. Someone uses the Kushners for maasei rav he already has a twisted and incorrect definition of Orthodoxy. They, BTW, have never held themselves up to be role models.

    2. What about the chillul Hashem of constant public micro-examination of a couple’s observance or lack thereof and the obvious glee with which these blemish finders (only in others, of course) condemn them without even knowing all of the facts.? How does this make the Orthodox community appear? Moreover, if you want to find blemishes whose condemnation will score points with the non-Orthodox community then condemn the welfare cheats, slumlords. corrupt business people, etc. (BTW, financial crimes are a toeva – Devarim 25,13).

    3. How are they damaging the integrity of other gerim? Jared Kushner the born Jew is doing the same things. Besides, do you really think that there are no other gerim who backslide just as do born Jews (see SA YD 268:2 that we do not tell him all of the details of observance so this could very well happen and see seif 12 that if he does fall down so long as he had intention to keep everything at the time of the giur he is like any Jew who falls).

    in reply to: Rumor about Ivanka Trump Spurs conversation about Geirus #1298365
    Avi K
    Participant

    Joseph,

    1. Yes. It is prohibited. At the very best it is bittul zeman. Now answer the question and stop stonewalling. What toelet is there in discussing the Kushners’ deeds (besides the fact that none of us know all of the details). do you really think that one of us will be invited to their home for a Shabbat meal? Do you really think that one of us might be offered a shidduch with one of their children?

    2. You and your companions are missing my point regarding the Langer case. If you disagree with Rav Goren how do you dare to question the validity of Ivanka Trump’s conversion? Are you qualified to sit in judgement on your own? Are you even a dayan?

    in reply to: Who as here [Israel] first Jews or the Palestinians? #1298351
    Avi K
    Participant

    KJ, the exile of Am yisrael is over. It ended in 5708. However, some individual Jews are in physical or spiritual exile, or both..

    in reply to: Rumor about Ivanka Trump Spurs conversation about Geirus #1298258
    Avi K
    Participant

    Joseph, et. al., so how come dayanim who claim to be followers of Rav Elaishiv are poselling conversions left and right. not to mention those here who do not even have “Yadin., Yadin” and maybe not any kind of semicha? You can’t have it both ways. In any case, I still would like to know what heter you gave yourselves to discuss the Kushner’s level ofo bservance in public. You have yet to answer this question. Stop stonewalling!

    Regarding Rav Ovadia, he and Rav Goren disagreed on just about everything. The Raavad said worse things about Rambam. Bet Shammai probably put out even more “Kol Koreh”s against Bet Hillel. Gedolim often disagree (and BTW, Rav Henkin and Rav Tzvi Yehuda Kook supported Rav Goren). That’s the way it goes.

    in reply to: Rumor about Ivanka Trump Spurs conversation about Geirus #1298131
    Avi K
    Participant

    Joseph, the nullification of the “gerut”, if it took place (there is no actual record) of Borokowsky was based on the fact that it was a forced conversion (his “father-in-law” had threatened to reveal his shady activities to the authorities) . Moreover, he continued to conduct himself a gentile, eating pork and going to church.

    In any case, you are over on kabbalat LH (the newspaper reports), LH (no toelet) and MSH,at “least” of the talmidei chachamim you besmirched. You are also paskening without a license.

    Edited

    in reply to: Rumor about Ivanka Trump Spurs conversation about Geirus #1298007
    Avi K
    Participant

    Joseph, are you implying that Rabbi Lookstein is Conservative. If so you have shown yourself to be a baal hotzaat shem ra (@mod29, I also object strenuously to your comment) are pasul l’eidut and not Orthodox.

    Tell me, do you then support Rav Goren’s cancellation of a gerut in the Langer case?

    in reply to: What did the mraglim do wrong? (non political) #1297055
    Avi K
    Participant

    Bmyer, and their yetzer hara was correspondingly greater. BTW, I read a few minutes ago an interesting chiddush. The Izbitca says that they intended to do an aveira llshma. They did believe in Am Yisrael’s ability to keep the Torah so they tried to prevent them from entering the Land. However, the did not appreciate the essential qualities of the Land. Rav Soloveichik says something similar. Just as Miriam did not appreciate Moshe sufficiently so too the spies did not appreciate EY sufficiently.

    in reply to: Rumor about Ivanka Trump Spurs conversation about Geirus #1297056
    Avi K
    Participant

    Joseph, does that mean that if the prospective convert is joining a community or engaged to a person who is a hater, says LH and HSR in an mass forum and is motzei dibbat ha’aretz in that forum the conversion is invalid?

    in reply to: Toras Avigdor #1296472
    Avi K
    Participant

    Actually many women left babies on Rav Chaim Brisker’s doorstep.

    in reply to: Rumor about Ivanka Trump Spurs conversation about Geirus #1296470
    Avi K
    Participant

    RY, OK, OK. A continuous line of Jewish women. Would you like to be my editor and proofreader? I am willing to pay you half of what the YWN pays me for posting.

    ZD, so what? Even fictional characters from other planets are Jewish to them. After an anti-Nazi story appeared in Action Comics Goebbels ym”s declared that Superman was a Jew. His Kryptonian name certainly sounds Jewish.

    in reply to: What did the mraglim do wrong? (non political) #1296462
    Avi K
    Participant

    After Hashem’s promise and after all of the open miracles in the desert it was unbelievable kefira. As for LH, I heard that the Ben Ish Hai said that it is even assur to complain about the weather in EY.

    in reply to: Rumor about Ivanka Trump Spurs conversation about Geirus #1296104
    Avi K
    Participant

    Akuperma, please state the source for your argument about a Shabbat goy. Unless a person is descended from a continuous line of women he is not halachically Jewish. The probability of a given individual being so descended is minuscule. We do not take into account such worries. Adultery, whether deliberate or not (husband disappeared and was presumed dead but really wasn’t) were also not invented recently. Even a known mamzer could have moved to another community and lied about his lineage. However, a safek mamzer is kosher except for a shituki or asufi, which are special decrees of Chazal.

    in reply to: Who as here [Israel] first Jews or the Palestinians? #1296062
    Avi K
    Participant

    There is in fact a village near Hevron whose residents are known to be descendants of converted Jews. Amateur historian Tsvi Misinai even claims that 85% of all Arabs in EY are descendants of Jews. However, it seems more likely that the vast majority are descendants of Arabs who came from Lebanon and Syria to take advantage of economic opportunities opened up by Zionist settlement (Arab workers were widely used both because they were willing to accept lower wages and because it made necessary Shabbat violations, such as milking cows, possible. Later the British ym”s opened up the land to Arab immigration while severely limiting Jewish immigration. Mark Twain wrote in “The Innocents Abroad” that when he was here EY was a desolate, depopulated land. Other travelers wrote similar descriptions. See “Palestine, a land virtually laid waste with little population” taken from Joan Peters’ book “From Time Immemorial”.

    in reply to: Who as here [Israel] first Jews or the Palestinians? #1294812
    Avi K
    Participant

    “Maybe Gafni came after the Palestinians, I’ve been here for eight generations,” – Meir Porush. I wonder if this makes Gafni an apikoros.

    in reply to: Rumor about Ivanka Trump Spurs conversation about Geirus #1294805
    Avi K
    Participant

    Joseph, why are you conducting an Internet war against Ivanka Trump? I am starting to suspect that you are an anti-Orthodox agent whose assignment is to make frum Jews look as bad as possible.

    G, if a ger later went OTD he is like any other Jew who fell. That is halacha pesuka. In the Langer case Rav Goren invalidate a geirut that was coerced and where the person continued to eat pork and go to church. Rav Eliashiv resigned from the Rabbinut in protest and today thosewho claim to be his followers are doing reasons known only to themselves.

    in reply to: The God Squad #1294765
    Avi K
    Participant

    Joseph,

    1. Ivanka Trump is already married. Even if she were not I do not think that anyone here would be in the running. In fact, Chazal say that an ordinary person does not think about the king’s daughter.

    2. Who are you to say that her conversion is invalid? Are you on the level of the rabanim who converted her? Are you even a dayan? if so why are you here? This is bittul Torah for you.

    in reply to: The God Squad #1293431
    Avi K
    Participant

    Joseph, you brush up. In the case of someone who has a reputation for being shomer mitzvot you have to have seen it and know that it was prohibited. Even if it seems prohibited you have to assume that it is permitted. You also have to have first rebuked him in private.

    in reply to: The God Squad #1293407
    Avi K
    Participant

    Ubitquin, I did not see it I apologize.

    Joseph, what is your heter? Did someone threaten to kill you if you do not post LH or HSR (although there are opinions that to avoid embarrassing someone in public one must give up one’s life)? What toelet is there if it is “only” LH? What about kabbalat LH or HSR (the article you cited about Kushner’s alleged photography)? Do you think that someone here might be invited to their home for a Shabbat meal?

    in reply to: Toras Avigdor #1293193
    Avi K
    Participant

    Joseph, what is the chava amina that one should not love a fellow Jew because he follows different rabbanim? Is there one to think that an Ashkenazi should not love a Sephardi because he eats kitniyot during Pesach. Should a Sephardi not love an Ashkenazi because he does not say selichot until just before Rosh HaShana?

    in reply to: The God Squad #1293174
    Avi K
    Participant

    The silence on the LH/HSR issues is deafening.

    Joseph, maybe that story about the picture taking is an Internet rumor. Anyway, why are you reading these things? According to some opinions you are pasul l’eidut .

    R4,
    1. The GPS is the official RCA geirut protocol worked out with the Israeli Chief Rabbinate.
    2. TY regarding how to make italics here. I wonder why the CR does not support the “<i>” tag.

    in reply to: False awakening dreams #1293167
    Avi K
    Participant

    Several times I have dreamt that I was dreaming but I have never been able to continue a dream after waking up. In any case, the Taz says that we do not know how to interpret dreams and Rav Aviner says that today they are meaningless because we are swamped with info from all sides and they come out in dreams. Once I dreamt that people were speaking in Russian and woke up annoyed that I did not understand my own dream.

    in reply to: The God Squad #1292720
    Avi K
    Participant

    ZD, all I found is that they snapped pictures on “Saturday”. As this was in Jan it could well have been after Shabbat ended. It might not have been Kushner but someone the reporter thought was him (for readers, of course, it is kabbalat LH). In any case, IMHO public discussion of the Kushners’ level of observance is LH.

    in reply to: The God Squad #1292673
    Avi K
    Participant

    ZD, what is the prohibition if the photographer is not Jewish? FYI, Rav Lior allowed non-Jews to photograph the events in Chevron during parashat Chayei Sara a few years ago as it would be good for the cause.

    Joseph, do Orthodox Jews say LH? Do they engage in fraud? Do they destroy other people’s property (e.g. an <i>eruv</i> some group do not like)?

    To all other <i>tzaddikim in peltz</i>, the point is attacking the Kushners in public. What <i>toelet</i> is there to say <i>lashon hara</i> (all of the prohibiitons and curses multiplied by the number of people who read them)? Not to mention that it might be <i>chotzaat shem ra</i>. Not to mention the prohibitions regarding the treatment of converts.

    in reply to: The God Squad #1292484
    Avi K
    Participant

    Ubiquitin, Rabbi Pruzansky attacked OO because it is a movement. Moreover, it has given general legitimacy to serious Torah prohibitions. The Kushners do not pretend to represent any religious movement nor do they publicize their religious views. Those armchair poskim who criticize them do so not only without a license to pasken but without knowing the details of their questions. Interestingly they are silent about “frum” crooks. I am reminded of the story of the bachur whose milk was constantly stolen despite being marked “private – no permission to drink” until he marked it “chalav stam”. By doing so they not only violate serious Torah prohibitions ben adam l’chaveiro but undermine the entire system of pesak. This is not Orthodox behavior.

    in reply to: Owning and Walking a dog #1292363
    Avi K
    Participant

    RY, people don’t hug and kiss their dogs as they do their kids.

    in reply to: How come all frum Jews today aren’t Chassidic? #1291796
    Avi K
    Participant

    LU, you are correct but so is everything said by the Mitnagdim. So are rationalism and mysticism. The latter are a big difference between Litvaks and Chassidim. The former will not pasken according to all kinds of kabbalistic ideas and the latter do. Even the idea of daat Torah is different. A Litvak (I was told this by a Litvak rabbi) beleives that learning Gemara at a very high level teches a person to analyze all problems whereas a Chassid believes that his rebbe/mekubal has a direct pipeline to what they are saying in Heaven.

    in reply to: Owning and Walking a dog #1291794
    Avi K
    Participant

    Randomx, why does one need to wash one’s hands if the animal is clean? please cite sources. I am also interested in knowing what you infer. Do you mean that a kid who engages in vandalism should be thrown out?

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