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☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant
5. Will last for a lifetime or at least 5 years.
I’m with you until that. We have no idea how long it lasts in terms of being somewhat effective, but we do already see it waning.
With COVID, we are talking at least 10%, if not 50% depending on age and lifestyle.
Anyone who wants to live a somewhat normal life, not locked into their homes, should expect to get Covid.
☕ DaasYochid ☕Participantdoing shiduchim without the mask
When you make dumb comments like this, don’t expect any intelligent comment you may occasionally chance upon to be taken seriously.
☕ DaasYochid ☕Participantthen masks will not help much, short of N95s
Show me evidence that cloth masks do anything besides make you look silly under any circumstances.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantCan we pin-point what is the source?
First show me evidence that frum people are more antivax than the general population them we can discuss your “theories”.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantSee, this is an important question, because if you want to convince someone who already had Covid to get vaccinated, you need to demonstrate that they are less likely to be harmed by a vaccine than another case of Covid.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantDaasYochid: There’s an outstanding question for you from Philosopher.
R Moshe isn’t good enough for you?
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantAs far as the OP is concerned, I’ll humor him and go with the assumption that he’s not trolling, and answer the question.
If someone takes the vaccine because he accepts the consensus of medical opinion that there is no negative affect on fertility, and it turns out that there is, he is an oines and was not m’vatel p’ru ur’vu.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantI believe it was the CDC that said only 6% of covid deaths had no co-morbidities.
Is it okay if people with co-morbidities die?
Are you absolutely sure that the risks from the vaccine, both that has already been shown, and possible longer term effects, is lower than the risk of being one of the 1050? My doctor isn’t.
Absolutely sure is the wrong metric. If I am sick with pneumonia I might get into a car accident on the way to the doctor, but it’s still wise to go.
It is highly likely that the risk of people getting harmed from the vaccine is lower than getting harmed from Covid (even those who were once infected).
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantSo what? If the original risk is almost “non-existent”, why take another risk — even if it is “smaller”?
Because there’s a bigger risk in not taking it.
☕ DaasYochid ☕Participantsimple-if your healthy and young, the chance of dying from covid is almost non-existent
And the chance of being harmed by the vaccine is even smaller.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantThere’s about 20,000 hospitalizations daily in the US, of which 19,000 of which are unvaccinated
How many already had Covid?
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantIt doesn’t fill up the ERs because it’s not like all of them catch COVID at the same time.
Also because their cases are generally more mild.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantThat is a total lie. Whether it’s a לאו or an עשה or a דרבנן (דת יהודית) might have various opinions, but it’s a real הלכה.
See אג”מ אהע”ז ח”ב י”ב who says it’s an עשה but says it’s to be צנועה.
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=918&pgnum=325
(It’s pretty clear to many, btw, that he would be mattir these shaitels as long as the hair is covered, even if they look realistic.)
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantEspecially if they hadn’t had COVID in over a year
Compare serious illness and morbidity levels of those who never has Covid vs. those who had it but over a year ago, please. (Both unvaccinated)
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantSo is this a contradiction to my post or you didn’t understand it or you agree with me?!?
You can read it however you want, I have no objection.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantI answered this already:
Yeah but you’re pro vax.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantIn the UK it’s common for recovered Covid patients to skip the vaccine. Because evidence demonstrates they don’t need it.
Define “don’t need”. Does it still lower the total risk?
☕ DaasYochid ☕Participanti got vaccinated because my rabonim told me to
Your rabbonim b”H hold you are supposed to follow mainstream medicine, not conspiracy theorists.
I just wanted to say that I got covid after two phizer shots
So did I, Moderna (which if anything is supposed to work better against Delta)
and I was pretty sick and so was my wife so I dont know where the info that people who were vaccinated dont feel covid is from, but it should be checked
Here’s the thing – they get the information from following many thousands of people, not just a few. So they have a lot better information than just you or I do based on what our personal experience will show us.
Your rabbonim have basically said to trust what the vast majority of medical researchers and doctors have said, which is that vaccinating generally reduces the number of serious illnesses and deaths, even if there are many “breakthrough” positive cases.
It’s impossible to know for sure in any individual case, but it’s very likely that had you or I not gotten vaccinated, we wouldn’t be here to be having this conversation.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantQuestion for my fellow conspiracy theory people: the liberal government is pushing vaccines which are poison, and dismissing HCQ and Ivermectin which actually work. So the liberals are taking the vaccines, and the right wingers are taking Ivermectin and HCQ.
We know the government is evil and genocidal, but why are they so stupid to kill off their own people and have the right wingers survive??
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantP.P.S. It is extremely rare for a recovered Covid patient to get a severe case of Covid.
I personally know a bunch of people who got it twice. I probably got it it from such a person.
☕ DaasYochid ☕Participantvaccine for little kids, whose risk is minimal. (And the vaccine itself contains risks, especially for kids.)
The obvious question is which risk is higher, and if even, should we vaccinate kids to protect the elderly, especially since we know people can get it multiple times or after vaccination.
☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant2scents: Any more prevalent than a vaccinated individual who became infected and isn’t doing well?
There are apparently studies indicating both ways. Probably it’s very similar.
☕ DaasYochid ☕Participantwhile let’s say Ivermectin, would only cost a few Dollars per a patient.
And cause 85% male infertility.
(Yeah, I know that was debunked, but so was the pro Ivermectin study. So make up your mind, do you believe in debunked studies or not?)
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantI am not sure why we are still debating pro- and against vaccines.
Should we stop? Has everyone been convinced?
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantWell maybe you got the Delta variant.
The vaccines help with this variant – because it produces Antibodies that directly attack the Covid 19 Virus.to get Covid.I probably did get the Delta varient. Even though I got two doses of Moderna.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantCommon sense advice – lead healthy lifestyle after that and do an overall medical checkup.
I have actually been doing that recently, but I doubt that’s what caused me to get Covid.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantIt’s not uncommon for vaccinated people to get Covid.
Really? Do you know anyone who did?
Booster shots have also been proven to further reduce illness in the vaccinated. Yet very few people got booster shots.
In Eretz Yisroel it’s common. If the evidence holds up for its benefit, it will become common here.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantActually, it is very uncommon in unvaccinated young healthy people.
Unfortunately a lot of young people who thought they were healthy weren’t, and died.
It is also very uncommon in unvaccinated people who previously recovered from COVID-19.
Not uncommon to get it again, and vaccines have been proven to further reduce illness in recovered Covid patients.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantOr maybe that was the intended effect of the vaccine, and preventing serious illness is an unintended side effect which the evil government didn’t account for.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantOr maybe the Regeneron? 🤷♂️
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantHealth: According to an antibodies test I took, I had strong spike protein antibodies levels.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantThe parallel question necessary when asking the titled question is what are the risks of taking the vaccine.
Also what are the risks of Covid. Which are somewhat known (death is a common side effect, as well as serious mental and physical issues in some), but the same way we don’t know the long term effects of the vaccine, we don’t know the long term effects of Covid (for those who survive).
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantActually, Bill Gates is much smarter than you. He knew you would think that repurposed deworming drugs would be your choice, so he’s been putting sterilizing agents and tracking chips in Ivermectin for many years now. Don’t fall for it.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantI felt ill. Testing was not mandatory for me.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantA frum woman wearing a lace wig is being totally hypocritical. Everyone with a half a brain knows that all Rabbis whose opinions are used as sources to allow women to wear wigs would absolutely not approve of lace wigs
Just so happens that there are some choshuv poskim who don’t think lace shaitels are assur.
I hope you are willing to retract that anyone who thinks that way has less than half a brain.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantI’m not sure why you are dismissive of Rabeinu Bachya. The idea if the physical power of gemstones is accepted by mainstream poskim, hence the popularity of even tekumah and rubies, even among people who don’t generally go for the latest segulah fads.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantShimon, refuah sheleimah for your father
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantIIRC, MBD sang Sameach Tesamach from R B Chait at a HASC concert (I think HASC 3) and recorded it on an album later.
Live in Jerusalem
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantBTW, “brought me the sight”, not sign.
☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant1. Bring Us Back, Tzlil V’zemer 6
2. Forgotten Princess, London
3. I Want to Know, Miami Meets TorontoOk, I cheated on 1 (looked on Jyrics)
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantDY: Nice to be discussing music with you again 🙂
Likewise.
August 11, 2021 10:17 pm at 10:17 pm in reply to: Is the frum “business/economic model” sustainable? #1999116☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantHuju, kindly explain how you think Avram missed your point.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantThey sing Shir Hamaalos to almost anything, but maybe you’re thinking of Od Yishoma (two come to mind – Carlebach’s less famous one, from his first record, and the famous Od Yishoma played first at every chasunah, which I believe is a Modzitzer nigun).
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantMoh Oshiv was originally on Laibel’e Haschel’s album (called Moh Oshiv) and later sung by MBD on a Suki and Ding All Star album called Hallel.
Lo Omus is a Boruch Chait song originally sung by MBD and Michoel Stretcher on Live in Yerushalayim (Zichron Menachem). Schwebel Scharf and Levine later sang it on Areshes S’foseinu.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantName 3 songs that MBD performed on his own albums only after performing them on albums where he wasn’t the main singer.
BoruchSchwartz already mentioned Someday (from JEP 4, then on his The English Album); Neshomele was on Journeys 2 before the Double Album came out, and I believe 2 songs from an Ohel Concert were later put on his own albums; Lonely People (The English Album) and Kol Dodi (We Are One). He sang Tifiloh L’oni on M’shor’rim, and Moh Oshiv on Hallel (then HASC) before singing them on Kumzitz. So I’m counting 6, not sure if DaMoshe didn’t think of all of them or categorized them differently than I did.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantHe composed 9 of the 12 songs, but Vahaviosim was one of the 3 which he didn’t compose. He is credited on the record as the assistant conductor, while Harvey Erlich conducted the choir and Heshi Nussbaum produced the record. Personally, I wouldn’t call it a Yerachmiel Begun album since he didn’t produce it and was only the assistant to the head choir conductor, but I guess I could understand why whitecar calls it a Yerachmiel Begun album.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantVahaviosim was not composed by Yerachmiel Begun.
July 13, 2021 11:13 am at 11:13 am in reply to: Do you try on clean clothes before the 9 days? #1991081☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantSee here where the באר משה says it’s okay when taking a nap
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14711&st=&pgnum=421
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14711&st=&pgnum=422
July 13, 2021 10:43 am at 10:43 am in reply to: Do you try on clean clothes before the 9 days? #1991055☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantDY, I used a savoro which is min Hatorah
What sevara?
July 12, 2021 4:14 pm at 4:14 pm in reply to: Do you try on clean clothes before the 9 days? #1990831☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantSee SA O’CH 262,3 and the Biur Halacha there, kelim naim.
You are taking that completely out of context. He is not talking about the 9 days there.
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