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Thank you 39.
Thank you 39.
39, I suspect that point is true universally, amongst the goyim.
Thanks 42!
Those who enjoy instant coffee over brewed… beware of the squeak!
icot: Thank you. Now figure a way to tell us your third hashgocha protis story with a minor alteration to avoid the personal details. 🙂
Jothar: I very much disagree that the less said about tznius the better. It constantly need reinforcing much like loshon hora does.
thewriter & azoi.is: Agreed completely.
Thank you ICOT. Looking forward to your hashgocha protis stories. Gut Voch
icot: Please share your hashgocha protis stories.
Tune in next week for another exciting episode of AZ’s “Shidduch Island”, where you will once again be mesmerized by today’s horrid situation for modern females in search of a mate being left at the alter all alone!
AZ will once again enthrall you with fictional tales and exciting solutions using the latest methods of fallacious mathematics that your algebra professor only wish he knew!
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not many fashion options with a streimel
You have the Shtreimel, the Spodik, the Kolpik, etc.
I believe the suggestion made by a few posters was that a woman give the tochacha.
The requirements to give Tochachah are:
1) You have to first assess that there is at least a reasonable possibility of the person listening to you. (Sometimes there are Halachic ways of assessing this.)
2) You have to give the Tochachah in a non-aggressive manner, and never in front of people.
3)You have to make the person understand that the only reason you are giving him the Tochachah is because you care about him, and it is for his good, so that he can get Olam Habah.
It also says in Sefer HaChinuch perek 239 that you should give someone tochacha privately and in a nice way; but if they don’t listen to you, then you should embarrass them in public so that they will do teshuvah.
So, if I am reading Mayan_Dvash correctly, he is suggesting exactly this. That a woman should give those girls tochacha, and if they stubbornly persist in continuing their public breach of tznius — that she follow the halachas in tochacha (as outlined above in the Sefer HaChinuch Perek 239) and publicly embarrass her.
Remember, tochacha is halachicly required to be given; and remember a breach of tznius is not only an aveira by the person committing it, but she is causing untold numbers of other bystanders to sin by even having unwittingly seen her breach of tznius.
An additional complicating factor here is that you usually don’t even know which neighbor’s signal you are using.
If you wake him, he might take away some of your other privileges.
Is that what you’ve been doing since your husband took your internet away?
From Agudah, via OU site:
PARK EAST SYNAGOGUE
164 E. 68th St. bet. 3rd & Lex. Ave.
Time: Shacharis S-F 7:45 EST
15 minutes before sunset EST Maariv: follows Mincha
Shacharis: M-Th 7:45; Sunday 9:00
AZ, the preceding comment posted under the name “Joseph” was not mine, but of someone else now posting under this name.
Nevertheless, we’ve both seen the Census statistics showing that more boys are born, and even at marriageable age the genders are about even.
AZ,
It has clearly been established that there are not more young women of marriageable age alive than men. So all you are left with is the growth factor and the age gap. Once you are working upon the assumption that there are an equal amount of men and women (1:1), then for every unmarried woman there is an unmarried man. The age gap not withstanding. The only affect the age gap does, is force some of the women to WAIT longer than they would otherwise have ideally liked to before getting married. It does not leave them unmarried indefinitely.
Additionally (and this point is separate from the previous one), so long as there is ANY frum normal male (in any particular age group) seeking to get married, no unmarried woman (in the equivalent age group) can claim she is unable to get married due to a lack of any candidate for marriage. And we know that (unfortunately) there ARE normal men in EVERY age group that are unmarried seeking to get married.
So to claim that the shidduch crisis is more pronounced for women than for men, is absurd. And the crisis is mainly that of couples marrying later than the ideal, not G-d forbid there being a very large number of people who remain unmarried all their lives.
Wait Curious – YOU are supposed to be assuming his name, not he yours.
Curious – YOU agreed to do the pics at the party!
The CR was nice while it lasted.
And what ever gave you the false idea that you are exempt from CR service once married?
Curious: Mazal Tov!! Mazal Tov!! Mazal Tov!!
I told you that you can get married before you complete your PhD.
Looks like the age gap myth is quickly falling apart.
72, you got the wrong thread. squeak started this thread to see who people think is a mod posting under a non-mod SN. (Not who your fave mod is; that was a different thread.)
…so go find the other thread and refresh it… YW Moderator-72
The SN I’ve always posted under, since the first day the CR opened a year ago, is:
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/profile/josephf
through
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/profile/josephf/page/12
As you can see, I have many comments going back over the course of the year.
Surely it is merely coincidence.
Just for the record, the preceding comment by “Joseph” is not mine, but that of another poster. (See the “Member” profile for the difference.)
anon – that comment was from another poster using the same SN as myself.
anon – I haven’t. That comment was made by another poster using the same SN as myself.
I am myself. 🙂
Just for the record, the preceding comment by “Joseph” is not mine, but that of another poster. (See the “Member” profile for the difference.)
moish – correct; it was not me. I’ve been posting in the CR under this SN since June ’08
(when the CR was established.) The other one started posting yesterday.
Just a quick note – the above comment by “Joseph” is a different poster than myself. (See the profile.)
oomis, Worry about what Hashem thinks we are doing, not what the shikker/nochri thinks. Are you concerned as well that the nochri thinks the pope is a moron for dressing in all those extraneous garments in the heat of the summer (or is it that you are only concerned that a nochri will think a heilige Yid is a moron, not the pope?)
I’ve heard bigger bubbe maisas.
oomis, Who cares what the nochrim think? Stop worrying about the nochri and start worrying about Hashem. The fact is the nochri will respect the Jew that dresses like a Jew in 90 + degree weather a heck of lot more than he will respect the Jew that dresses like a nochri in 90 + degree weather.
Thanks Will. I noticed you are a new member. Any relation to the other Will Hill?
There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.
A Yid dressed in Yiddishe levush, is to be highly commended. Especially considering the hot weather. And especially considering the downward spiral of our generation.
Inappropriate music undoubtedly negatively affects the soul.
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One big beef of mine is that as the girls are now going to be conditioned to wait, make the most of the time in personal development to ready themselves, the boys are going to be less and less worth the wait and the investment. What are we doing to make our boys men? There’s too much infantilization going on IMO.
There is no reason they should be conditioned to wait. The longer they wait, you would be correct in that they become less worth the investment. What are we doing to make our girls women? Keeping them waiting is infantilization.
I must have missed that.
squeak/HaQer, Do you likewise feel that a boy marrying an older (relatively the same as a girl would have no problem marrying an older boy) girl should be destigmatized?
Why is there a shidduch crisis amongst boys? According to the age gap argument, the crisis should mainly be a girls only crisis. Additionally, as long as there are so many boys, of all ages, still desperately waiting to get married, its impossible to blame a lack of boys, as to why any girl isnt married.
The average age gap between spouses is considerably less than you incorrectly portray. More on the order of 1.5 years.
Aside from being wrong about blaming the so-called age-gap on the “shidduch crisis”, even if for arguments sake we assumed you were correct, there is no way to enforce a rule limiting future marriages to couples within “X years” of each other. If such a rule were proposed or implemented (or even encouraged), it would become a mockery and mostly disregarded. (See how little people follow the many calls of Rabbonim to limit the costs/lavishness of l’chaim/vorts and weddings — something that is easier to follow and even enforce.)
(This is in addition to your using bad data. In the past, Yidden generally married earlier than today, plus had a greater age gap than today. It was once not uncommon for older men to marry very young women.)