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Lilmod UlelamaidParticipantUsually it is. It usually means that they are starting to identify more Jewishly and no longer want to be called by a goyish name. Unless you have reason to believe it’s coming from somewhere else (no idea what that can be, unless they are criminals and the law enforcement is after them and they are trying to hide their identity or something – but otherwise, I think that you can assume it’s a good sign.)
Lilmod UlelamaidParticipantRY – good question. It did say something about “b’zchus nashim tzidkaniyos…” so it seemed pretty clear that it was only for females.
However, I am pretty sure that it did not say anything about marital status, which is why I am considering entering.
Oh, and by the way, I don’t think it mentioned that you have to cover your hair in order to qualify. You just can’t wear a sheitel.
Lilmod UlelamaidParticipantCalifornia – Los Angeles
Florida – Boca Raton
Wisconsin – Milwaukee
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Lilmod UlelamaidParticipantI guess they do the raffle before Pesach, and you are eligible as soon as you make the commitment.
“They should make the prize a free sheitel.”
Why – so they can burn it with the chometz? Maybe it should be 400 shekels worth of free non-sheitel hair coverings. That would make a bit more sense.
I once was passing by the shopping center and I saw they were showing an anti-sheitel video, so I was curious and stopped to watch. Funnily enough, I was the only female watching (don’t worry – I stood in the back).
Someone who works in one of the supermarkets came out and asked the guy who made the video if he could make a video about not stealing shopping carts since that is assur according to everyone.
So I didn’t stop wearing a sheitel but I started returning shopping carts to the supermarkets. So I guess the video accomplished something.
Lilmod UlelamaidParticipantVirginia – Norfolk
Lilmod UlelamaidParticipantI saw a sign at a busstop yesterday that anyone who takes a kabala not to wear a sheitel outside for 4 days during the month of Nissan (2 days during Pesach plus 2 other days) can be entered in a raffle for 400 shekels worth of Pesach products.
I was considering entering – I’m so Frum that I NEVER wear a sheitel even in my house!! So I am definitely qualified to enter ๐
Joseph, maybe you can start something like this in the US.
Lilmod UlelamaidParticipantLaughing at trembling rabbits chewing hearts of romaine lettuce extremely x-irridiates innocent nice Irishmen.
Now we can start over:
Insidious
Lilmod UlelamaidParticipantI have two answers to the op:
1. Two people can ask the exact same question but be asking entirely different questions. In other words, the words may be the same but they are coming from two entirely different places, and a good mechanech understands what the person’s real question really is.
My mother is bt and one of the main hashpaos on her (both for becoming Frum and for making aliyah) was her 7th grade sunday school teacher. She happened to see him at the Kosel several years ago, and he was shocked to discover that she had become Frum and made aliya. She asked him why he was surprised, and he said, “because you used to ask so many questions.”. She was like, “Why do you think I was asking questions?”
The moral of the story is that sometimes someone could be asking questions in a way that sounds like the Rasha in the Haggadah but that isn’t really where they are coming from. Many of today’s at-risk kids could be asking questions that sound like attacks but are really coming from a place of pain and confusion and a desire to be part of things (as opposed to the Rasha who did not want to be part of things).
The Rasha was deliberately attacking. He had nothing in common with most kids at risk of today. The words may sound the same, but they are coming from a completely different place. Before you can decide how to respond to each son, you have to know which son he is. You can only do that if you look into his heart, into what is behind his words, and not merely the words themselves. (I don’t have a Hagadda in front of me, but don’t two of the sons actually use the same words?)
Answer #2: Sometimes, there are people who need a sharp response. That doesn’t take away from the “ahavas chinam”. Being sharp or strict does not have to be a contradiction to love. I knew a girl who was learning in a certain program in Israel. She was from a modern background and had a strong personality and used to phrase her questions/statements in ways that were less than appropriate. Her teacher/head of the program understood that she was someone who needed a “hakheh es shinav” approach. This was despite (or perhaps because of) the fact that she really was sincere.
He understood that this was the approach that she needed (because of the way she expressed herself) and that this is what would work for her. And he was right. She very much appreciated his approach and she grew from it, and at the end of the year, he was the teacher whom she had the hardest time saying goodbye to.
Point #3: I think that the difference between today and the time when the Hagadda was written is that today most people are very emotionally fragile and that’s why for many people today, the strong approach doesn’t work.
But that doesn’t mean c”v that the Torah changed and that what it says in the Hagada doesn’t apply today. Then and now, there were different types of people who needed different responses. Today, there may be less people who need the strong approach, but there is still a place for it, if one knows when and how to do it.
For example, many people do use it when dealing with adult political leaders who are trying to uproot the Torah, and it seems to me that at least in some of those cases, it is the right approach.
Lilmod UlelamaidParticipantI buy a calendar at the local Sefarim store. I think it’s called “itim l’binah”. It’s very good – it has a lot in it, and I think it’s very reliable halachichally. It has a lot in it, and it looks like it was well-researched.
I use it for candle lighting time. For the end of Shabbos, I just add on 72 minutes from shkiya.
I also use it for shkiya during the week, so I know when I have until to daven Mincha. I use it for alos hashachar in the morning so I know what time I have to wash negelvasser and say brachos when I am up all night, and I use it for netz so I know what time I can daven when I am up all night. When I am not up all night, I use it for Chatzos so that I know what time I can daven until.
It’s also useful for checking when Rosh Chodesh is and if there is Yom Kippur Katan that month before Rosh Chodesh and if so, what day it is.
Lilmod UlelamaidParticipantArizona – Phoenix
Lilmod UlelamaidParticipantTexas- Dallas
Lilmod UlelamaidParticipant“Are we starting over?”
no. But we will probably be starting a new sentence soon. And I am requesting that from that point onward, we try to make sure that the sentences make sense together, if possible.
April 2, 2017 12:09 pm at 12:09 pm in reply to: Forgetting your learning if you leave a Sefer open, unattended #1248380Lilmod UlelamaidParticipantWhat’s the source of this rule?
Lilmod UlelamaidParticipantTwo new rules for the game:
1. If you use a one-letter word, the next person can use a word beginning with any letter.
2. Starting from the next sentence, the sentences should make sense together, creating a story of sorts.
Lilmod UlelamaidParticipantnice
Lilmod UlelamaidParticipantMassachusetts – Boston
Lilmod UlelamaidParticipantConnecticut – Waterbury
Lilmod UlelamaidParticipantinnocent
Lilmod UlelamaidParticipantThe State of Israel – Beitar
(just joking).
Lilmod UlelamaidParticipantPennsylvania- Scranton
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Lilmod UlelamaidParticipantThe idea that the masculine form of a word is used when referrring to the general population and that women are unique and hence have their own terminology that applies to them and them alone comes from Loshon Hakodesh and therefore from Hashem.
Since it is from Hashem, there is no reason for anyone to be upset about it. But if it were to bother anyone, logically, it should be the men who are bothered by it and not the women.
The only reason why any women (as well as male feminists) are bothered by it is because they assume that women are always being prejudiced against (I know that’s not a word, but it should be), and therefore any time there is any distinction showed between the genders, they assume it’s putting down women.
Which is both ridiculous and wrong!!! However, I understand why someone who has not had the privilege of growing up with Torah hashkafa would think so.
It is our very differences that make us unique and special.
Lilmod UlelamaidParticipantPlease note: The last word does not make sense in the sentence, so I am keeping it but making a slight change so that it will fit:
Once, Nebuchadnezzer entered nervously Estherโs spacious palatial abode bearing elegant lions. Instantly, Nosson observed brown rats absconding behind emerald massive arches, reaching eventually vertical emerald-made alleyways leading each ant nowhere ordinary radically altering laughter. Amazingly Meno flumoxed less elegant lions in nine instances.
Never ever voicing opinions puts unicorns nearer elephants.
NEW SENTENCE:
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Lilmod UlelamaidParticipantYekke2 โshkoyach! I was going to write something similar but hadnโt yet gotten around to it.
The way I would put it is like this: While there are many negative aspects to boxes and they should be used sparingly and carefully, they do have their purpose and they canโt be altogether ignored.
When children are learning to understand the world around them, they often appear extremely narrow-minded (for example, I find it amusing how often kids assume that I am a goy or OTD because my hair is uncovered : )).
However, this actually is the way that cognitive development works. A child can only internalize information through the use of schemas (aka boxes). For example: All adult females are mommies. It is the only way that they can process information.The way I always put it is that one has to know what the boxes contain before one can learn how to think outside of the box.
Likewise, when a person is at a stage of life in which he is trying to figure out who he is and what his goals are and what type of marriage-partner he is looking for, he needs to use boxes to help him sort things out. We live in a complex society and often we need to use boxes in order to process the different hashkafas/values/religious levels around us.
Of course, the ideal is to eventually come to a place in which while still using boxes to help navigate oneโs way, one is also able to โthink outside the boxโ as well.
Lilmod UlelamaidParticipantOy, this doesn’t sound very good ๐ What happened? I thought you were going to try to find another school. Are you going to try to look for a school for next year?
I’ll try to keep an ear out, but I don’t know how likely I am to hear of anything. What do you know how to do in terms of computers/office work?
Have you tried OORAH? They are usually looking to hire.
Lilmod UlelamaidParticipantTrueBT – +1,000! That was really nice of you!
Lilmod UlelamaidParticipantYekke2 -nicely expressed!
Lilmod UlelamaidParticipantI have a very hard time getting into threads that have tons of responses – for example: Mazel Tov, funny things kids said/did, and Funny Shidduch Stories.
Lilmod UlelamaidParticipant“There are a notably larger proportion of older single never-married girls than older single never-married boys.”
That’s what many people think, but I’m not sure if it’s true or not. It seems to me that there are plenty of guys around.
editedLilmod UlelamaidParticipantAlso, older single girls are usually reluctant to go out with older never-married guys and prefer going out with guys who were married before. I don’t know what you mean by “older” – I am referring to the 35+ age range.
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Lilmod UlelamaidParticipantJoseph, sorry if I misunderstood you. In any case, I think my point may hold true to some extent for things other than age (although it is probably the most so with age).
It is possible that guys’ thinking that they have the upper hand can lead them to be “unnecessarily-picky” since they assume that they can marry whomever they want. That can backfire and harm their shidduchim leading them to remain single. This seems to be the reason or part of the reason why at least some older single guys are still single (although definitely not all, and it may be a small percentage).
I can also see its potentially harming their middos and/or causing them to become too superficial in terms of what they are looking for in a shidduch.
And of course, it can cause harm to society as a whole in many ways.
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The Torah is for everyone and it has to be possible for everyone to have a part in it even it’s difficult in some cases.
“Ive met people who experienced a Shabbos and felt inspired , but when they went home, they were isolated on Shabbos (They lived too far away from a shul and lived with non-religious people and were not always able to go away for Shabbos and could not move) It was doomed to fail”
That’s not a failure at all!
1. They kept Shabbos one week!!! Do you realize how amazing that is? Do you know how different their portion in Olam Haba will look now???? Do you have any idea how priceless that is!!!!
2. They were inspired. Now they feel more positively towards Torah and Hashem. Maybe they will be more likely to daven to Hashem the next time they need something, maybe they will express gratitude to Hashem, maybe they will put on Tefillin when the Chabad van comes around, maybe they will be nicer to the Frum family who moves next door. Maybe their children or grandchildren will imbibe their positive feelings towards Yiddishkeit and become Frum. Or maybe their son will decide to send his daughter to Hebrew School as a result and she will become Frum and he will be supportive of her decision. Maybe they will make a donation to a Frum cause, etc.
As you wrote so wisely earlier, one can not go into kiruv expecting people to become completely Frum on the spot.
The point is to light a spark that has no end. The point is to encourage a fellow Jew to keep one Mitzvah one time. The point is to give over a positive feeling for Yiddishkeit….
Lilmod UlelamaidParticipantJoseph – just for the record, I wrote my last post before you wrote yours, but it was posted later (probably because it was longer so it took longer to moderate).
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Lilmod UlelamaidParticipantJoseph – I think that you and M are saying the same things. I don’t think she meant what you thought she meant. The misunderstanding is based on her first sentence which was phrased in a way that was misleading.
She does not mean that men are not good fathers. Her whole point is the same as what you had said previously – that the role of a mother is very different from the role of a father. For a woman, her role as mother is much more encompassing than the role of a father is for a man.
From her first sentence in her first post, it was easy to misunderstand and think that she was saying that this is a problem, but from the rest of the post (as well as her second post), it is clear that was not what she meant at all.
M- do you see why it was easy to misunderstand from your first sentence? (“I think itโs because in frum families, women tend to make much better mothers than men make fathers”). That sentence makes it sound like you think it’s a problem. It sounds like you think that men aren’t good fathers, and that’s what Joseph was reacting to.
Lilmod UlelamaidParticipantRebshidduch -thanks! ๐
Lilmod UlelamaidParticipantReal ones: Seminary for older girls who are still single
Shidduchim for those with a pastMine:
Seminary for those with a past
Shidduchim for older girls who are still singleor: Seminary for those with a past needs shidduchim for older girls who are still single.
Lilmod UlelamaidParticipantRY – +1 I see I was right for being happy.
Lilmod UlelamaidParticipantThings kids said/did
Things kids said they did
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Lilmod UlelamaidParticipant“Supply and demand gives men the upper hand in shidduchim.”
It lets them think they have the upper hand which helps no one. There are many older single guys who keep getting older and staying single because they will only go out with girls who are much younger than them, and girls are rarely willing to marry guys who are so much older than them.
Lilmod UlelamaidParticipantGeordie – I don’t think that’s so nice. She’s not trolling – this is clearly something that bothers her and she is trying to understand it.
Lilmod UlelamaidParticipantbmyer – I don’t get it….
Lilmod UlelamaidParticipantI’m so happy – I see that another female finally answered!! Thank you RebYidd!! (even though I can’t see yet what you wrote) I was wondering when that would happen!
Lilmod UlelamaidParticipantThat being said, after thinking about it, I think I may agree with you on this (even though I am not a BY liberal). It does seem a bit strange to constantly address high school girls as “future wives and mothers”.
First of all, they should be focused on what you are now. Second of all, our main tafkid is being Ovdei Hashem, and being a wife and mother is merely the way we fulfill that role.
A single girl I know was once asked to speak on the topic “The tafkid of a single girl”. She refused to do it since she thought it was ridiculous. She was like, “What do you mean ‘the tafkid of a single girl?’ It’s the same tafkid as any Jew’s – being an Eved Hashem.”
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