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daascochmabina: your question could have been mine word for word. thank you for articulating it so well,
i wish i had a real answer.takahmamash- Uh i think your confusing the groups here a little, let me clarify- Briskers DO NOT riot in the streets. (period. no buts.)
those rioting are affiliated with the Peleg who follow R Aurbach ztz”l it was taken off from a regular litvish and yerushalmi majority, the Briskers were not involved in the yeshiva where the machlokes started and branched off between Rav Aurbach and Rav Shteinman.Joseph- the Briskers have a very different view on the government than most chareidim, while most chareidim even if don’t agree with the zionists are doing theiur best to live their way under the present government, fighting in the government for whaty we believe they don’t want to be involved and if not for the other chareidim fighting for chareidy rights in israel they really would have had to leave a long time ago,
what would happen to briskers if they leave? go to america and escape there because the threats to chinuch? escape to europe and get stuck w/ shechita bans? it’s not simple living like a chareidi jew anywhere, one needs to learn to live and fight without lowering their standarts wherever they are.
akuperma- the chareidim were not quite comfortable living under arab rule,
look up your history fact, the muslims made them a hard hard life, they were only allowed to live in the old city part pf yerushalaim, had very limited job options, were subject to many arab theives at any time of the day, decrees at will of the ruler, many sicknesses that came from the hunger, poverty and limited space with little options of keeping hygiene, and more.
not so sure what went on outside of yerushalaim like tveria and tzfas where a lot of chareidim lived too, but i do clearly remember learning about yerushalaim’s state, they were not welcomed with open arms and if not for jews helping from chutz la’aretz they would not survive.
and what about the ottomans taking every young man to their wars?
of course when the british came and later the zionist things got worse as jews are always blamed for the trouble accuring but it wasn’t very great and happy before.shmelkysh- you are very funny, but other than enjoying your jokes i really don’t get what you mean…
you shouldn’t have so many “but”s in one sentence, also both of your options seem to include getting rid of smartphones (which i anyways don’t have) so whats the difference? please elaborate.
hey, i’ll pass the idea. at my wedding i want a full beautiful big wedding and not in a shul- leave that for the brissim.
i know it’s a sociaty thing but i’m not the one to jump the boat and please don’t make me do it.
a wedding is a big event in the couples life, they should get the utmost and as many people that are willing to come make them happy,
i don’t think it’s fair to cut them off of what they deserve even if sociaty messed up our views of what deserving is.who says frumbelieved is not RGP trying to get back here after RGP was blocked?
for that matter we may as well stop assuming anything about the screennames here, you can never know who is behind it, acting or being real…good
We will find out in a much faster and easier way than needing towait for the headlines, phone calls etc.
we will all know at the same moment at the same split second he arrives wheather it’s through the shofar sound in the entire world or any other way it says, and the eagles ready to take you to yerushalaim will also be a teltale fact.
i have a strong feeling that at that moment the last thing you’ll be thinking of is the news/headlines/whatssapp notifications and calls. most likly you’ll forget your phones and internet at home while we rush to yerushalayim.Rebbitzen Goldenpickanicerscreenname:
Malach – do you know why on Simchas Torah the birkas Cohanim is in shachris and not the regular place in Mussaf?
Because a kohen that made kiddush on ONE cup of wine is considered shikkur and cannot duchan.
Multiply that by dalad kossos and you have very intoxicated kohen.
In gemara’s times they did not have Rashi Light wine. The wine was as strong as scotch. Yet women were michuyav in daled kossos and it was not shouted down as un-tznius or anti Torah. True there were no Pessach hotels but people did invite “kol dichfin” to the seder. It wasn’t just family…
-if your right then it still couldnt have been enough for ad delo yada since then needed to be seriously into the haggadah/seder and conducting it. they couldn’t have done it in a drunken state the way you see people on purim.
they were deffinitly better at those mitzvos than us and we don’t see any mention of women drinking on purim.why do i find it hard toi believe you?
rebbitzin-women are not mechuyav in 4 cups of wine-it can be grape juice too, i have yet toi meet a women who drank enough wine to get drunk at the seder, even most men don’t get drunk.
is that what you found out?
As i said seminary is not about learning torah for the girls but more hashkafah and tools for building a jewish torah home.
I don’t see why the air in eretz yisrael can’t affect women if it affects men.talmid chochom-ever heard of ”avira deeretz yisrael machkim”?
good one syag.
she should most definitly go to seminary, anyone who talks about brainwash -was not in one or didnt see the growth their family member had from it.
well i did. they learn values and tools for buliding a jewish home-(that is if shes not one of the girls just goiing to get away from her parents and do what she wants.)
girls may not need to learn torah but seminary puts a main point on hashkafah-in todays world it’s so hard to keep your hashkafa streight.
judith- naysayers were always around , do what is best for your daughter.i had cousins in Nachlas and Hadar, great places, they enjoyed every minute,
i heard a lot about the others too, and a family member of mine works at Meohr.what kind of information are you looking for?
they are all really good places some more yeshivish some with more of a mix.
maybe any of your daughters teachers can know enough about them while knowing your daughter too and help with the decision, isn’t that what they all do with the girls in 12th grade?mazal tov!!!
amen!!rational jew- good luck getting them to sit in conversation with you-they are irrational and would refuse bringing any such kind of debate on the table.
btw- they also have their little group in Meah Shearim in Jerusalem.
oh, i used the one in Jerusalem, didn’t know it is only for the area, thanks.
“Visa’s and Passport updates, among other things.
My american passport expired a while ago, if I want to update it I go there.”
shopping- why don’t you go to the consulate for that? you don’t need the embassy to renew passports.
the consulate has always been in Jerusalem.
i think the embassy is for the larger issues that come up between the countries and problems of citizens of than country to the country they reside in.Good question,
but you missed Leil Hasseder …..depends on your mood
The little i know- i don’t agree, the learning boys i know simply see the importance of their learning and view it as their role in life, i believe the boys your talking about that “kvetchy a bonk” lack something in their middos and priorities in life, they are definitely not the majority.
easier? no way!
having a degree and a plan may sound good but at the end of the day you never know what will happen, the person with a job that is good “for now” can we/ Hashems help easily get a better one when he needs while the one with a degree can get stuck not finding the job and working at a simple one while his degree collects dust in the closet.
its all about Bitachon after all.jj2020
hahahathis whole thing is stupid,
the women should not judge you by the type of job you have, if your earning enough money to manage and your a good boy and all other more important stuff in marriage then the fact that you work in a store means nothing at all, why should you have trouble finding a girl?
when did the girls become like this?“store bought is cheaper and easier. ”
store bought food is easier but almost never cheaper.
why do you care so much that you’d want to take away their donors?
WOW, chill guys, i would never have imagined this to be a thread, i fail to understand whats insulting in this purim ‘venahafoch hu’ joke or why anyone thinks its making fun by mentioning other campaigns.
i truly enjoyed watching the video. thanks Meno for pointing out everything instead of me.
‘The fact that 40% is jewish is no less of a tragedy, its a different kind of tragedy though and i shuddered upon hearing the amount of jewish kids in there as much as the fact that 4 of them were killed.
“That’s one thing that seems to be better in some smaller, more OOT communities.”- I love OOT!!
wish i was one.:)” in new York, the men are treated like dogs”- not by everyone.
“getting one sheitel, and don’t really buy any clothing, jewlery, and or makeup for the first few years of marriage.
Their kids don’t get dressed in luxury clothing, and sometimes the electricity goes off or there’s no food in th house at the end of the month.”- shopping613 really?
all the kollel couples i know live very simply but don’t lack anything, their electricity does not go off ever and they always have enough food to fill them up and nt even just bread and milk,
even my brother who brings in all the money in the house from kollel (my sister in law doesn’t work now) with 2 little kids has enough money to buy whatever he needs, pay his bills and rent, yes he tries not to buy extras and to find the best deals but without running around all the stores to buy the cheapest items in each…“I think they get so spoiled by the dating process, by getting picked up and taken out to dinner, they just take it all for granted.”- I don’t think so.
not where i live and not the people i know anywhere else.“It’s one thing to say that there are those that are, and quite another
to say that you are.”- we are only saying it because we understand it/want it/ know of it even if we aren’t personally it / are actually it.“Who here is looking for the same thing in a shidduch?
(either themselves or someone in immediate family)
We’ve heard from one mother, and one girl who might”- i am.i know a few people like you personally, family and acquaintances who have had this struggle and right now are working, most of them make sure to learn or go to a shiur every day.
i also know a lot who are full time learners, love it and keep telling me about their miracles with parnassah,
i know both sides and understand both sides.schneubs, you sound like a great guy i agree with what shopping613 said and i also think you don’t need to worry about shidduchim, you just need to be yourself and be proud of yourself and your accomplishments, even though its hard watching people enjoy what you can’t and is so important, just make sure you have a true derech in judaism with a rav to keep you safe.
i’m having it hard myself deciding between full time learning and parnassah, i don’t know yet what i’m gonna do but i truly admire both sides- the one who can sit and learn with bitachon that hashem can send him parnassah and those like you who recognize their abilities, are committed to hashem and his torah and take upon themselves the parnassah.
good luck with everything your trying to achieve now and shidduchim when your ready.“Also I don’t speak yeshivish, what is knaas?”- i think he meant fines for driving etc.
There is one game that as a kid my mother and older siblings would call mancalah, i never got why, so thanks for the explanation.
I happens a lot in israel, i heard of a bunch of such stories and i know some of them- i have two friends that their grandparents remarried,
i think people keep it a secret usually because it’s a later age and they don’t need the publicity.CTLAWYER- i don’t think the money is most people’s reason for not remarrying as their happiness is more important for them and for their children who want their parents to be happy,
also the reason many people don’t remarry is because second marriage especially in old age is difficult, many people are afraid of the change and many people have a hard time finding the right zivug they want to spend the rest of their livers with, and/or are afraid of being widowed too fast once again.I think it’s all ridiculous.
Just like they start selling doughnuts in Cheshvan.
CS, our world is in a worse state than ever before, our mission is to fix it up and bring it to some state of normalcy.
Klutzkashe: Why don’t you ask them?
DV is also a name, without a “J”
Gadolhadorah: Zissel is a very common name for boys.
It’s not an “american meshugas” i know a lot of israelis that grew up with this such as myself and with me the whole school.