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Yeshivish rockstar
Most Lubavitchers probably accepted the fact that the rebbe died just moshiach can come from the dead
Signifying dramatic shift in policy, outgoing Ambassador Haley says mission will oppose ‘plainly biased’ annual motion after years of abstaining under previous administrations.
If it’s annual what did America do last year? Abstain?
Although does anyone else feel this thread is getting kind of boring and the arguments are becoming mere nitpicking? Or is it just me and APY
No, I realized no ones going to convince you what you believe is wrong and vice versa which is why we are called עם קשי עורף which is a good way to keep us Jewish btw
why people shouldn’t plow with an ox
The yoke would be on them
(I just realized MMSh could be the Rebbe. Still wondering about MYD.)
At least someone realizes what I’m talking about
One time I was at a “community kinnos “ where a bunch of different rabbanim spoke and as the Lubavitcher finished off my rebbe kept on repeating ממש like he’s waiting for him to say בקרוב בימינו ממש and when the Lubavitcher finished he ended with those words I cracked up
*is should be if and the second post should be before the first one
Now, the reason why shluchim are so successful in mekareving others is not because they are such great PR people that they manage to package Yiddishkeit better than non Torah movements.
Huh?
Lubavitcher is the only “Torah movement “?
בראתי יצר הרע בראתי לו תורה תבלין
Also what is someone was born with the sickness?
Laskern,
לולרותפל
Remember CS the mods are human and just like I don’t like to read whole long posts I don’t think the mods do either (I try to make my posts (and words) short and to the point (which has the downside of being misunderstood (understandably) and we say טשעה כבים שיחה so understandably your post will be way longer than mine but mods are people
. It was precisely because he was a Torah leader that the Rebbe cared to strongly disagree with his words.
And then not to teach his chassidim to not curse Rav Shach or to never have an Avi ezri in any chabad house whatsoever
Rso,
R Shach is ES and everyone knows what he said
A& is R Aharon Kotler, not sure what he said
there is a chabad biton family in vancouver.
Is there rabbeinu tam teffilin?
I said no such thing.
Really?
And? He was holding by the avoda of tzaddikim. He wrote the Tanya, also known as the Sefer shel beinonim, and also wrote a Sefer shel tzaddikim which unfortunately was burnt. Point being he could only write the Sefer if he was holding there…
Yes so he was a tzadik who stood up to his yetzer hara even in extremely difficult circumstances (beinoni),
And Avraham didn’t have nisyonos? So that made h a beinoni (according to your definition)
Is there someone according to your definition of צדיק and if so name one because everyone has נסיונות even משה רבינו
Really? For the sake of a no brainer, I’m sure you hold your Rav to be on a higher level in Avodas Hashem than Achav. (Yes the temptation then was greater but im saying on an Avodas Hashem level.)
I was waiting for you to nitpick my words
Who says I’m talking about avodas hashem?
You really are comparing apples to oranges. Before you were saying the Baal hatanya was greater than the Avos (who were beinonim) and now you bring Achav?
(And btw it’s possible that if the Baal hatanya was in achav’s generation he would be worse than Achav)
Why keep giving her a platform to spout nonsense?
For one it shows people that don’t know that much about chabad how it really is
“We will get rid of the Affordable Care Act.”
It’s not his fault if the senate (a la John McCain) didn’t do their job
“Criminals and unknown Middle Easterners are mixed in” the caravan. ”
That’s a fact, are you saying none of them are criminals?
Democrats oppose any effort to secure our border.”
The Democrats have a plan to secure our border? Please tell me what it is
And? He was holding by the avoda of tzaddikim. He wrote the Tanya, also known as the Sefer shel beinonim, and also wrote a Sefer shel tzaddikim which unfortunately was burnt. Point being he could only write the Sefer if he was holding there…
And this is the problem
The Baal hatanya wasn’t greater than anyone in tanach
Ry23,
And therefore lifhtbright can’t sue if she got hurt?
Sue the bakery for damages (hey it works for coffee)
Syag,
Lol, I wasn’t even thinking of your post
Thanks,
You too! And to all of klal yisrael!
How is this a halachic question?
After he showed him what a beinoni of Tanya is (someone who has a yetzer hara but never does any aveira, big or small,
I admit unfamiliarity with mesillas yesharim but based on what I do know, what you describe is the norm. There are the born tzaddikim who are the rare exception (such as Moshe rabbeinu who was born mohul, which is apparently can be a sign of such),
Moshe rabbeinu worked on himself to make himself a tzaddik (maaseh where they brought someone to draw him)
Additionally nowhere does it term benonim in Gemara like you, Benoni could be either someone that is “50/50” or someone that has at least one mitzvah
We say Yosef is Yosef hatzadik because he was עומד בנסוין yet there are four people who didn’t sin and only died “because of the נחש”
And I highly doubt the בעל התניא thought he was a בינוני
The one I said was a demand was Lama nigara. It is a demand to have the right to bring the korban pesach. Again, Lama nigara doesn’t mean, ” Is it possible for us to bring the korban too somehow?” It means, “Why should we miss out?!” Which is a demand for the opportunity to bring the korban Pesach.
I think I finally understand what CS is talking about (even though I wouldn’t call it a demand) I wouldn’t call it a request either
I would call it a טענה which is a claim but I see where you’re coming from
Neville,
I’m copying a pasting CS’s comment to you and replying to it
I want to know the answer from CS
But neville, again you are conflating anything to do with moshiach and Geula to buy synonymous with who moshiach is.
When a Lubavitcher says בקרוב בימינו ״ממש״ what does ממש refer to?
To parrot it is time,
If that’s a beinoni, I guess we’re all reshaim according to the Baal hatanya and really the only tzaddikim are ?
coffee addict, why don’t they run on tax cuts?
Laskern,
How come the economy is doing so great? (Please don’t say Obama, he said there will never be gdp greater than 3%)
1, I don’t know what world you live in. The opposite is true. People who got tax cuts did not need it and those who needed it the most did not get it.
Laskern,
I don’t know where you got that information from but I saw my taxes (federal not state) get drastically cut
As far as what I wanted to get out of this thread etc.:
I more some people enjoy threads that are confrontational and bash, where there is a winner and loser. But not me. I like finding common ground with other yidden (which is why I frequent here to begin with), seeing exactly where we agree, where we disagree and coming out with a broader knowledge of klal Yisraels (kosher obviously) hashkofos (even if I may not hold of some for myself which is fine. There were 12 shvatim, all equally valid)This seems incongruous with the statement
the-world-is-in-a-state-of-geula-and-dont-misunderstand-us
Where you seem to be forcing your views on the site
My Rav would never put himself on the same footing as Rabbi Kanievsky for example who is known to have much more knowledge of Torah than the typical learned Rav.
Notice you said rav kanievsky however any Lubavitcher feels they are on the same footing as R Shach ztl, so much so that you will not find an Avi Ezri in any Chabad House and if he is mentioned (he is a tzaddik, he might have a different opinion than you) he will be cursed out (I personally saw a Lubavitcher stick up his middle finger when R shach’s name was mentioned so I know first hand)
Stuartw, neville, have you seen the Chabadshlucha explain meshichists thread?
Yay, I found the thread you’re referencing!
Probably,
And sad to say because the economy was doing so well until now (when there was a republican majority in the house and the senate)
How about spending vast amounts of time playing golf?
Sorry, Obama was the golfer in chief
Condescending tones to Netanyahu ? Netanyahu 100 % deserved it
You’re laughable
For example, if that were the case, then it would be impossible to apply the anticipating moshiach every day
in practice, because if his coming is contingent on Eliyahu hanavi announcing it three days earlier, then he can’t come today as there was no announcement two days ago….Thanks for the reply I thought it was going to get lost.
It can be understood that the announcement that moshiach is coming can be any day,
And there are shittos that say eliyahu hanavi can announce moshiach on that day before he comes
Syag,
👍
I pointed out that 1) some find it offensive 2) IT accomplishes nothing and 3) It can potentially alienate allies
Some people find “clinging to their guns and bibles” offensive too or “if I had a son he would look like Trayvon” but that didn’t stop his majesty from saying that
It accomplishes that it was an act of terror as opposed to “workplace violence” and it should be dealt appropriately
As we see that Trump has said it over and over and Saudi Arabia (an ally) is still on good relations with Trump and while we’re talking about allies how Obama acted to the only democracy in the Middle East (putting feet on table while talking to him, condescending tones to Netanyahu, trying to prop up the opposition as opposed to staying out of it, not vetoing certain UN sanctions, and secretly making a deal with Iran) shows he doesn’t care about alienating allies
I’m wondering, isn’t there a makor that eliyahu hanavi is supposed to announce who is moshiach (like Shmuel did with Dovid) and not that moshiach announces himself (whether outright or ברמיזה)
Awwww Joe,
We’re you blocking someone’s driveway and they called the cops on you and you got a ticket?
If it was the opposite and your driveway was blocked what would you do? Ram his car or miss where you have to go?
Synagogue vandalism suspect in NYC worked for Obama campaign in 2008, reports say
From foxnews.com
I can’t believe it! A democrat that’s an anti Semite