nitpicker

I know I am going to be sorry for this,

but

rav moshe zatsal wrote that bas mitsva is not seudas mitsvah.

not because it is any less worth celebrating her new status, but because there are certain guidelines as to what costitutes a seudas mitsvah and this doesn’t meet those guidelines.

interestingly,

the debreciner, in his tshuva sefer be’er moshe

comes to the same conclusion. (he apparently was not aware of rav moshe’s tshuva but decided this on his own.)

he writes that when asked, his first reaction was, “Why not. what’s the difference?”, but after looking into the matter, he concluded it was not a seudas mitsvah.

over and out.

last week, (right after laining pashas re’eh,

someone I work with became curious and asked me questions as which animals are kosher.

I find interesting that this thread appears right after parshas shoftim

interesting. I dont know what contradiction you are talking about.

I don’t have to defin ‘is’ and I don’t have to define ‘know’ in this case.

what in the world was the first question?

you cannot use other peoples stuff without permission.

if you are not sure if you have permission, you also cant use it.

you can not logically say the following:

This object belongs to a member of my family.

members of family are not makpid (or shouldn’t be makpid )on each other.

Ergo

I have permission to use it.

Which part of no don’t you understand.

over and out.

I am not sure what your original question means.

you can not use someone else’s property without permission.

you already know that.

If you are asking if permission can be assumed, the answer is clearly no. If you know that in a particular home or house the permission is tacitly granted you, fine.

There is not much more to say about it.

you cannot use items that belong to someone else, even someone in your family, without permission. If your family has a sort of understanding of permission, then fine, within the limits of that understanding.

On the other hand, those who are somech al shulchan avihem, perhaps don’t really have personal ownership, or very little of it.

Just the same most usually behave as if each is real owner, and respect each others ‘property’.

Even communists don’t consider the world hefker once something is distributed. (That’s a logical contradiction, but just add it to the list)

“

there are still those today who don’t eat turkey.

“

but they are few. I read a tshuvo from the debreciner z’tl

who wrote that there is no longer anyone who questions eating turkey.

While this is factually incorrect, but they are so few he wasn’t aware of it. I believe I saw a similar loshon from another posek.

“

and that the initial initial microscopic cells must be from a properly slaughtered kosher animal

“

They are probably taken from a LIVE animal.

to akuperma

potatos chometz? I am sure you meant to write kitnyes.

“

Boys usually aren’t ready at 18. Marriage involves alot of responsibility. Most buys aren’t ready to take on that responsibility at that age.

“

true. but a) should it be true? be) why is it true?

sounds like a good topic for a thread.

I think I will start it but stay out of it.

rebdoniel:

Re R’ Shammah

I have to ask are you referring to the one who founded the

Sephardic institute on Ave R in Brooklyn?

Or is this someone else?

“For the same reason we call people redheads even though they are merely orange. “

Because orange was not the name of a color until the fruit became popular. The color was named after it. Before that, the color we now call orange was considered a shade of red.

even books and newspapers are no longer edited and proofread properly. It used to be possible to assume that the grammar and spelling found in almost any published material was mostly correct. seems to be no longer true.

to E-O-M

you mean you want a practical response to a practical halachik question?

as regards oreos

as has been posted here before, oreos are labeled oud because that is what the manufacturer wants: they reserve the right to start using dairy ingredients or equipment without having to change labels. Which therefore means they always may have done so the day before yesterday. You must always consider oreos as possibly dairy, unless you constantly check.

Ben Franklin knew how to generate electricity?

well, not generate in the sense of using a generator.

but he could produce electricity and store it in a sort of capacitor called a leyden (sp?) jar.

playing with electricity was popular with pop-scientists at the time.

I think he once tried to execute a turkey with electricity.

and do I personally know a mamzer?

not knowingly, but certainly in the tshuva seforim there are cases,

including the one I cited above.

Rav Moshe wrote

from memory but I think it is substantially correct:

—-

But to be machshir the first daughter,

there is no place at all to be machshir her,

for she is a mamzeris vadois midoraisa.

He then goes on to explain why the

Rav’s attempts at a heter were meritless.

In fact the very case of the Langer’s proves our point not yours.

for if in fact rav goren permitted them, other rabbanim did not.

this was before rav goren was involved and was not a political vendetta against him.

According to you , it should have been unanimous.

to the aptly self-named rabbi of berlin:

ok, I will one last go at it, though I am not sure why,

I really have nothing new to add.

You suggest I google for more info in borokovsky;

o.k. I will do that. perhaps I will change my mind on that point.

but just to say again what poster after poster has tried to explain to you, yes rabbanim are very makil in these cases.

But they don’t take your attitude that there is always a heter

to be found or made up to avoid an unpleasant situation.

And it is also important for people to realize that a kulah for the possible mamzer can lead to chumros and problems for many others or even the subject himself.

Thank you for pointing out that sofek mamzer is mutar m’dioraisa,

since none of us arguing with you could possibly have known that.

And I know you think we didn’t know that because you wrote zil gmor. Since you know this, you must also know that omdu chachamim v’asu maaleh byuchsin. They forbade shtuki v’asufi even though the sofek is a stretch. They didnt have your modern, enlightened attitude. They preferred to protect kedushas yisroel.

Poster after poster has tried to point out to you that being makil does not mean being moreh shelo c’halacha. But you obviously think it does or at least it should.

There is no point in discussing particular cases with you such as the OP or the Langer case. It is your attitude we disdain.

And we aren’t imagining the attitude. You gave yourself away when you wrote “rav Goren did the right thing when he..” Who are you to say so? Reminder, I did not comment on the psak but on your double standard. You didn’t even say his psak was correct, which you couldn’t possibly know due to ignorance of all the facts and the halacha, but he ‘did the right thing’, the halacha itself being just an obstacle to overcome.