popa_bar_abba

Popa, the rabbonim do have ample opportunity to tell the difference (sincerity vs. insincerity). Their signing off on the giyur indicates that they found the geirim sincere.

I know. And the vast majority of rabbonim involved are terrible at it, as evidenced by their error rate. They should get out of the business.

I heard last night that there is similar complaint in the secular world that there are not enough guys for the girls.

I’m sticking with creepy guy theory of the crisis.

When I say weird, I am generally referring here to being socially awkward. That is, not picking up on social cues, and not being able to make appropriate social relationships.

Just to clarify.

And yes, I can tell within 5 minutes.

All the geirim I know seem to be doing very well B”H and are married with children.

Of course. Because the other ones are not part of the community anymore so you don’t know them.

I agree with Haleivi. As soon as we can discern their sincerity, they should be accepted immediately.

Unfortunately, almost all of the dayanim who are currently involved in geirus are incapable of making this determination, and all of them should recuse themselves from the process since they have proven themselves terrible at it.

This is obvious from the outrageously high relapse rate of geirim being chozer l’suram.

It is equally clear that the procedures that are being done are extensive enough and that the only problem is the dayanim themselves who clearly are unable to determine even after all these procedures what should be obvious at that point–whether the candidate is sincere.

If I was working at something and had nearly as high an error rate as they do, I would quit my job since I would obviously not be good at it. They should stop; they are being irresponsible and reckless.

That was not what I was trying to say. I didn’t use all those words for no reason, you know.

Oh, I just figured you used all those words to be more like a man.

But the one thing we can learn from this is that if we are not willing to accept a female orthodox rabbi/ maharat, that perhaps, the community rebbitzins should become more active in our shuls so that perhaps, this never would have happened.

In fact, revolutions usually happen when the regime starts to allow the changes that the revolutionaries want.

Tell us where the whiskey is. I really don’t need to be finding your oxycontin while searching for it.

You couldn’t get your point across without calling yourself a molester?

Not only that, I had to do it twice.

I did like 4 seed programs.

One of them was worth doing from the community’s perspective.

2 of them were fun. (One of those was the same as the first)

The other two were no fun and a waste of time.

Torah Umesorah runs it.

1. If you’re the kind of parent who is disappointed in their kids when they do things that aren’t even their fault, I can pick up on that. Those are the kids who aren’t going to tell their parents about things that are bothering them for fear of disappointing them. And that’s who I molest.

I am shocked that someone would be so brazen as to write this. But it certainly is true. If you are that type of parent, you should no way send your kid to camp, or school, or anything.

Blast that, you shouldn’t be a parent.

Well, sometimes it pains the parents because they want what is best for the child and think this is not what is best for them.

Sometimes it pains the parents because they see themselves living vicariously through their children infinitely and so they want their kids to live lives they approve of.

Sometimes it pains the parents because they think that other people’s opinions of them are based on how well they raised their perfect family.

It sounds like you get the feeling from your parents that it is one of the latter two reasons, and not the former. Unfortunately, that is quite common, and if you feel that way, it is probably true in your case.

The reason you should not do these things is NOT because it bothers your parents. Your job in life is not to make your parents happy; it is not to bring nachas to your parents; it is not to give them feelings of immortality and peer-recognition. Your job is to live your own life.

In living your own life, you certainly should take guidance from your parent’s values; if they think something is very important–it very well may be.

I personally think you should not be doing the activities you discuss, and I think so because I think doing so will hurt you in both the long and short run. I think you know how harmful it will be as far as your personal and family relationships, and the fact that you still want to do them says to me that there is some even stronger pain you think you will solve by doing them. I think you should speak to someone about that.

In yesterday’s daf, Rabban Gamliel referred to a tzeduki as ?????, “the abominable one”.

I think there’s good precedent for these terms.

(eruvin 68b)

It’s really quite funny that some of the posters here are taking the “learned” higher ground, when the graduates of this institution could wipe the floor with any of them in a halachik debate…

ITT: Anonymous internet person makes baseless claims concerning other anonymous internet persons and non-anonymous person about whom he knows nothing.

You mean and specifically only makes the boys frum, but tells the girls to jump off a cliff. Because that will solve the shidduch crisis.

Is that what you mean?

tl;dr

will you give maaser every month on the money your parents give you

Well look at that. You were correct. And he did apologize.

ben: I think it is reasonable to assume that if he had convinced Rav Feldman that he was misinterpreted, and Rav Feldman regretted what he had said, then we’d see him take it back.

Do you agree?

Lipman has not done anything that would make him a rasha. Rabbi Feldman called him that having misunderstood what Lipman had said. This is straight up loshon hara.

Come now, do you really think that is so?

If that was so, Lipman would have called Rav Feldman and explained it, and Rav Feldman would have retracted it on his own accord.

Der rasha wouldn’t be all over the internet trying to drum up support for himself.

That sounds awesome

Do you also hang and dry them?