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To Sechel
I see that you learned two things from Nope your Rebbe. First, to hurl meaningless accusations a me. Second you refuse to answer my questions. But I don’t forget them. So I’ll repeat, Since Lubavitchers don’t believe in punishment why do you study Pirke Avos? This second question is a new one. Since your dead Kofer shut down Gehinnom why do you clowns say Kaddish for your loved ones? Of course we have the 3rd question, “If you don’t believe in Rambam why do you study him?”
To the group
Menachem Shmei, Nope and CS disappeared when they realized that no one is buying their garbage. Sechel , however, won’t give up. As I’ve clearly demonstrated Schneerson was a Kofer for rejecting the Gemara which said that there is no Nevuah until Moshiach comes and for rejecting the Gemara which says that only one out of 300000 Jews will be redeemed by Moshiach. These are the simple facts that every real Jew accepts. Sechel is part of a religion started by that dead Kofer so he has a different point of view.
To the group
Many years ago Rabbi Dovid Hollander told me, “Don’t try to understand a Rosho because you’re not a Rosho.” Sage advice but if you train yourself you can get into the head of a Rosho. Many non isobservant Jews ask how one can believe in Hashem after the Holocaust. The answer is simple. I believe in Hashem but I don’t understand Hashem. The same applies to Chabad. You can’t ask them any questions because they consider Schneerson God and so he can reject what the Torah says because he transcends the Torah.
To ARSo
I mentioned in an earlier post how Chabad dismissed Rav Shach and Dr. Berger. They take it one step further with regard to Rabbi Deutsch. They ignore whatever he wrote by saying that Rabbi Deutsch wanted to be the next Rebbe and therefore he made up lies about the Rebbe.
To Sechel
I’m sure you’re aware that logical arguments fall on Lubavitchers deaf ears. The Christian belief that J is the son of God is accepted by billions. Is the Chabad belief any less insane? Schneerson had a dream when he was 3 years old that he became the ruler of the world. Many Rabbis explain that all other religions begin with a single individual who claims to have had a Divine visitation. In contrast, all the Jewish nation heard the first 2 Commandments directly from Hashem. That’s why we know that our religion is true and the others including Schneerson’s latest are false.
To Sechel
Your sources are unimpeachable. I’m impressed. Clearly you believe in the veracity of the Gemara as well you and all Jews should. Here’s the problem. Your Rebbe rejected two open Gemaras. One says that there is no Nevuah until Moshiach arrives. Second the Gemara which says that only 2 of 600000 Jews will be redeemed by Moshiach. Why do you agree with your Rebbe when he rejects the Gemara, but you accept all the other Gemaras? Checkmate
To the group
Notice how Sechel just dismissed Rabbi Deutsch’s book..This is straight out of the Chabad playbook. When Rav Shach called the Rebbe a nut job he was angry because in 1951 he tried to get a position as a Rebbe in a Chabad Yeshiva and he was rejected. As for Dr. Berger, the story they invented was that he was a failed academic and needed a book to be published to get tenure. They’ll say anything to avoid dealing with the truth.To Sechel
Details about Yoshka are unclear and so I reserve comment. Many years ago Rav Reuvein Feinstein told me that his father told him that the Jews killed J, but the Goyim think it was the Romans. I shared this with a Rav who’s an expert in history and he said it’s not true so I’m not sure. The point is that to find out the truth one must find reliable sources. Unfortunately, you rely on Chabad sources and that’s why you’re all messed up. Everyone in Chabad including the Rebbe lies. Years ago I met Rabbi Shaul Shimon Deutsch and he told me the truth about Chabad. He told me that he had to leave CH because he was receiving death threats for telling the truth.
To yankel berel
At this point Sechel is just throwing out whatever nonsense comes into his “head” hoping something will stick. Menachem Shmei saw that the fight is over and so he’s in hiding. Nope thought he could get someone to side with him in his campaign to malign me but it didn’t work so he also bowed out. This week’s Jewish Press features an essay by Rabbi Moshe Taragin who a Chabad loving YU guy. He wrote about the important role that the belief in Moshiach plays in Judaism and credited Schneerson for bringing the subject to light. Unfortunately he’s not honest enough to acknowledge that Chabad will never accept the real Moshiach.
To Sechel
According to Rabbi Manis Friedman both types are perfect Tzaddikim because no Jew can be punished due to the long exile. And you agree with him. Therefore if I say and,/or suggest terrible things about your Rebbe/god nothing can happen to me. Isn’t that correct? Checkmate.
To the group
Rabbi Miller made it a point that neither Yushka nor his disciples ever suggested that he was a Novi, but Schneerson took that title for himself and his predecessor.
To yankel berel
The fact that we’re discussing Yeshu in a thread about Chabad speaks volumes. Unfortunately people don’t want to see the obvious parallels.
To yankel berel
Is it true that Schneerson married Rebbetzin Chaya Mushka knowing she was sterile because a deal was made for him to become Rebbe?
To yankel berel
I defer to you because you obviously have a wealth of knowledge about Chabad. All I know is from the experiences that I’ve had with Lubavitchers. I appreciate your input. I know that you’re reliable and I learn a lot from you.
To Sechel
Are you actually saying that you would consider following J? Judaism declared Christianity idolatry and that wouldn’t bother you. I can’t say that I’m surprised. If you believe in one dead Jewish god why not believe in a second one.
To the group
Nope is surprisingly quiet. You should have seen him on VIN. He matched me word for word. But it’s different here for him. His lies and distortions don’t work because he knows that there are people who will challenge him. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
To yankel berel
Are you saying that Christians realize what Chabad is doing or are you saying that they’ll realize it in the future?
To yankel berel
To your point, I have a patient who was a Ben Bayis by the Noviminsker Rebbe ZTL for many years. He told me that the Noviminsker attended Schneerson ‘s installation as Rebbe in 1951 and he described it as a coronation. Right now Nope will insist that I provide the name of the patient and a signed letter from the Noviminsker attesting to this statement. When I said that Nope is Chutzpadik I meant that he’s an admitted Meisis and he still has the nerve to impugn my integrity.
To the group
Sechel just came up with a powerful Rashi. I guess I’ll have to renounce my belief in Hashem. Now Nope is excited. He’s going to demand that I make a video in which I swear that I no longer believe in the Ribono Shel Olam and send it to him. Oh. Too bad I lost his contact information. Can someone tell him to send it to me again. Lol.
To Nope
Congratulations. You convinced Sechel that I’m a liar. Now comes the hard part, convincing actual Jews.
To ARSo
Chazal teach that a wise person learns from everyone so I’ll take your advice and drop the menace label.
To Sechel
You’re missing my point. It’s one thing to be Dan Likaf Zchus someone who doesn’t keep Shabbos or eat kosher. On the other hand, when someone hurts another person intentionally he doesn’t get a pass. Is that too hard for you to understand?
To the group
My father AH liked to tell this joke, “What’s the definition of Chutzpah? Someone kills his father and mother and then asks the court for mercy because he’s an orphan.” Well we now present Nope who takes that several steps further. In the thread he mentioned above about Religious Zionism Nope admitted that he not only tried to convince me to be Mechallel Yom Kippur but he urged me to take a video of myself eating treif on that day and to send it to him for his viewing delight. This is an example of his depravity. And now he hopes to “prove” that I’m a liar so the posters will reject my comments. Last year Menachem Shmei begged the moderators not to print my posts. Now this. Chabad and it’s acolytes are deathly afraid of me. I take that as a compliment. It means that my message is coming through. Oh yeah Checkmate.
To the group
Nope is correct in stating that Rabbi Feldman didn’t call Me ace a Kofer, rather he stated that his statements were heretical. So we’ll focus on the statements. One the belief that G-d has human attributes, to be precise as per Menace, “G-d d needs us more than we need him.” Then we have Menace statement that G-d sounds like a monster for creating sins and getting angry at man for committing them. Finally we have the statement from Menace that no person can be punished no matter what he does because of the bitter exile. According to Rabbi Feldman these statements are heresy, but Nope does not accept what Rabbi Feldman said because he believes that Rabbi Feldman was obligated to call Menace and ask him to explain what he meant. The problem with that suggestion is that Rabbi Efren Goldberg interviewed Menace and asked him how he could say that G-d has needs and Menace said that this is his opinion and he won’t change it. Checkmate.
To yankel berel
Yo reference the Dvar Malchus of 5751 but I think that the Rebbe’s plans go much farther back. We’re constantly told that when he was beginning Cheder he had a vision of Moshiach. I think that it was at that point he decided he was destined to rule the world.
To ARSo
Beautifully said. Menace isn’t a Kofer because Rabbi Feldman said he is, he’s a Kofer because he wants to change a fundamental principle of Judaism. I’d like to apologize for the things I said to you last year. Please be Mochel me. We’re on the same team and our “Coach” is Hashem’s Torah.
To Nope
I’d like to thank you for telling the truth. You’re more than welcome to join the discussion. And I don’t mind if you use your tactics on me. They keep me on my toes.
To yankel berel
I wouldn’t worry about being called an Apikorus by Chabad. Menace said that no Jew can be punished anymore.
To Sechel
You didn’t answer my question but that’s all right. I’ll address your comment. According to Menace no Jew can be punished today because Hashem is merciful. Okay, so we have a Rabbi in a Yeshiva who’s a serial child molester. According to Menace Hashem won’t punish him because He’s merciful. But what about the victims? Why isn’t Hashem merciful to them? Checkmate.
To Sechel
I have a serious question. I know that Chabad “learns” Pirkei Avos so how do you understand Mishna 3:1 in which Aka ya Ben Mehallalel says, Know three things and you won’t come to sin?” The third thing is that a person has to give Din VCheshbon when he leaves the world. So do you reject this also?
To yankel berel and non-political
It looks like our work is done with regard to demonstrating that the entire Chabad religion is a house of lies. What must be done next is to reach out to Jews who are on the fence. Most people are all or nothing that is they love or hate Chabad. As evidenced by the fact that I Daven in a Chabad shul I take a middle approach. I recognize and appreciate the good that Chabad does but I can’t ignore it’s idolatry. When I showed up Yaakov Yosef A quickly left the thread saying farewell with the perfunctory Refuah Shleimah. Such Jews are afraid of the truth and it’s very hard to reach them.
To yankel berel
Your point that they hide the fact that they have a different belief system is spot on. They do this because their ultimate goal is to rule all Jews. Obviously if they announced that they no longer accept Rambam or the Gemara that would force the foolish Rabbis who praise Chabad to abandon them. Therefore Sechel has to try to make it sound like Menace isn’t a Kofer but of course he is.
To Sechel
Rabbi Feldman is a Godol and so he learned far more Torah than Menace the Maniac. Please provide a source for Menaces’s contention that Schar Veonesh would stop applying after 2000 years of Golus. Is it in the Shulchan Aruch? Is it in the Gemara? No the Kofer made it up just like the Kofer Schneerson made up that all Jews will be redeemed by Moshiach. The most appropriate name for your false religion is Koferism.
To Sechel
So you’re saying that you know more than a Godol Israel. Is that correct?
To Sechel
Why do you care about what Rabbi Feldman said? When you tell us that the Chabad Rabbis made a Psak real Jews don’t care. Your Rabbis aren’t our Rabbis and our Rabbis aren’t your Rabbis. And that’s why you can reject what Rambam said. What you guys like to do you is cherry pick statements from Chazan that seem to support your agenda. That’s exactly what the Christians did. It’s a free country. You can believe what you want, but no real Jew accepts those beliefs.
To Sechel
You make a good point. The bumper stickers should read “Hashem wants every Yid.” But the reason that Rabbi Feldman, who is a Godol called Menace Friedman a Kofer is not only because of that statement. Friedman said that no Jew can be punished no matter what he does. This is a denial of Schar Veonesh. Before Nope attacks me for saying that Rabbi Feldman didn’t call him a Kofer he called him a Bor Brishus Harabim. Fine but he also said that Menaces statements were heresy. Nice to have you back I like you even though you’re wrong.
To the group
I’m absolutely amazed that Nope confirmed the story I reported last week. He even conceded that he urged me to commit this heinous Aveirah and to send him a video to prove my guilt. If this doesn’t say all you need to know about Nope you can fill in the rest.
To always ask
You make a good point except for one thing. Lubavitchers make a yearly Siyum on Rambam but that doesn’t mean that they” learn” Rambam. What I mean is they turn the pages but since they reject many of Rambam’s fundamental principles it’s not called learning. Menace Friedman rejects Rambam’s 3rd principle of faith that G-d is incorporeal and has no human attributes by stating that He needs us more than we need Him. And Rambam gave clear-cut criteria for Moshiach which Chabad rejects because it refutes their ridiculous claim that Schneerson is Moshiach.
To yankel berel
I heard Butman’s son definitely declare on his Saturday night program that the Rebbe is a Novi. This is one of Chabad’s big lies that they keep repeating to themselves and for the general public.
To the group
I didn’t plan to share this tidbit but Nope’s latest post in which he tries to portray me as a monster and himself as an innocent victim who was dragged against his will to YEN is just too much. Over a year ago on VIN Nope was spouting Menace Friedman’s Kefirah that no one can be punished no matter what sin he does. Nope wasn’t quoting Menace this is his Shitah which leads me to believe that he’s Chabad..In any event I said to him, “Are you guaranteeing that if I eat a pork sandwich on Yom Kippur that nothing will happen to me? ” Fe said yes. So I figured I’d have fun with him and I told him I’d do it. This psychotic sent me his contact information and told me to make a video of myself performing the act and then I should send it to him. I kid you not people. He can deny it but Hashem knows the truth. BTW have you ever seen Nope or any other Lubavicher use the word Hashem? Checkmate
To yankel berel
Your point in the June 23rd post is worth commenting on ie that Chabad expansion is gradual. Basically, the two sides are in trench warfare and neither can move the either. What results is name-calling but nothing substantive. Perhaps I can change the equation. When Rabbi Butman had his radio program he would often say that when Moshiach comes there won’t be any more Shnayim Ochzin Bitallis. Then he’d explain, “Yes there will be Shnayim Ochzin Bitallis” but only the Kabbalistic understanding. When I said this over to a Rav he rejected it arguing that every aspect of Torah is eternal..Next let’s consider the following. About two years ago I was arguing with a Lubavicher on VIN. I told him that it’s ridiculous to believe the Rebbe is Moshiach because he didn’t meet Rambam’s criteria. He responded, “Rambam is a Posek on planet earth but Chabad exists in the world of Yechida and we don’t follow Rambam in our world.” Next we come to Manic Friedman who said that G-d needs us more than we need Him.” So this is at odds with Rambam’s e 3rd fundamental of faith. But now it makes sense. They don’t think that his rules apply any more. Finally we consider statements made by Menachem Shmei and others on YWN. They’d say outlandish things and then tell us to study their sources. What emerges is that we have 2 different belief systems and neither side will budge. I hope that this will lead to open discussion rather than worthless epithets.
To Nope
When I said that Rabbi Miller’s view isn’t Halacha what I meant is the following. Rabbi Miller said that anyone with a TV has no Cheilek in Olam Habo and there is no arguing on this point. I simply mentioned Rabbi Fishelis to demonstrate that Rabbi Miller’s statement wasn’t factual but I certainly acknowledge that many great Rabbis are anti TV. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to explain what I meant.Now I’d like to ask you two questions. First, since you claim not to be Chabad why do you care so much about my “vendetta”? Second, why is it that I’m the only anti- Chabad poster that you challenge? Yankel Berel is as forcefully anti-Chabad as I am. And there are quite a few others on YWN in our camp but all your rhetoric and insults are directed at me. Checkmate.
To always
I never said that there’s one opinion vis a vis TV. All I said is that Rabbi Fishelis told me it’s permitted. There are others who disagree so one can choose whom to follow. And this is true for so many Halachos.To the group
And of course Rabbi Fishelis would not only have to sign the letter but have it notarized. What a jerk. His entire existence revolves around challenging every thing I say. As you can see from here it’s not only about Chabad. He’s obsessed with me because of my writing ability. And it’s so foolish because I readily admit that he’s an outstanding writer and he knows way more Torah than I do. Of course it’s also true that he’s an inveterate liar.
To non-political
Great point. I have extensive dealings with Nope.
The great Beatles song ,” Nowhere Man” comes to mind. Doesn’t have a point of view knows not where he’s going to. Nope is a Chabad apologist. His mission is to deflect all criticisms of Chabad. So he will say anything and hope it sticks. And if it doesn’t he’ll make something else up. About seven months ago I was going back and forth with him on VIN. Some woman joined in to challenge Chabad and he immediately disappeared. Like the Shed he is he can’t tolerate a double team. Let’s stay on point.To the group including the moderators
From 1956 to 1968 there was a game show called “To Tell the Truth” in which there were 4 celebrity panelists one of whom was telling the truth about his occupation. The three contestants had to try to guess who was telling the truth. In this thread Nope and I are taking turns calling each other liars. One of us or perhaps both of us are lying. How should the posters decide. Well, on the one hand I’m forthright about who I am, a LES dentist with many close relationships to great Rabbis. Then we have Nope about whom we know nothing. He wrote to me VIN that he never reveals anything because the information will be used against him. Ask yourself what he’s hiding. Checkmate.
To ujm
Please go over to MTJ at your leisure and ask him. Unlike that lowlife Nope I don’t lie. Let’s be clear. He didn’t endorse having a TV and he surely doesn’t have one, he just said that there’s no Issue at all not even DRabonon. Let’s continue the discussion but do so in a civilized manner. BTW, Rabbi Fishelis is in Israel now. He’s stuck there because of the Matzav.
To Nope
I’ve decided not to address any of your comments directly. That begins with your latest statements. Feel free to say whatever you want. Hashem knows the truth.
To yankel berel
The pro-Chabad posters have a new game. On the other thread(Zionism is heresy) I introduced Rabbi Feldman’s attack against Manic Friedman. Two posters stated that Rabbi Feldman had no right to call Manic out because he should have met him to ask what he meant. So Chabad will say that Rav Shach didn’t really mean what he said. The “L” in Lubavich is for liar.
To ujm
He’s Rav Dovid Feinstein’s son-in-law. His word is golden and he’s universally accepted. Rabbi Miller was wrong. Case closed.
To the group
Rather than dealing with Nope let’s just consider the statements that Manic made. He called G-d a monster. He said that G-d needs us more than we need Him. He said that no Jew can be punished no matter what he does. Of course we don’t know what he meant because we didn’t call the Kofer. Nope thinks he’s fooling us. One day he’ll try to pull his Shtick on Hashem..nuff said.
To Menachem Shmei
Guilty as charged but the Kofer Manic Friedman says I can’t be punished. Lol.To non-political
He’ll say anything to get the upper hand and then he’ll deny it a day later. He’s a total Chabad fraud.
To NOPE
I’m really not interested in discussing the question of TV but I’ll just say that it came up about 2 years ago in YWN that I have a TV( I don’t have one now.) Anyway posters wanted to yar and feather me so I asked Rabbi Fishelis if it’s such a serious offense and he told me it’s absolutely permitted. So we can put this subject to rest.
To the group
Last week I asked Nope a simple question, “Do you agree with what Rabbi Feldman said about Manis Friedman?” I got back a doctoral thesis but not a yes or no answer. Instead he said that Rabbi Friedman had no right to challenge Manis until he called him to clarify what he meant. Nope opens up a can of worms. He’s now saying that when someone makes a controversial statement we can’t accept or reject it unless we first speak to the author. Sounds nice except for one problem. How do we get clarification from dead Rabbis? So this leads to “maybeism.” Maybe Rav Shach didn’t mean that the Rebbe is crazy. You get the point. Your move Nope.
To non-political
I’ve been dealing with Nope for a long time so I know where he’s coming from. He’s a Chabad apologist. He refused to say whether he’s Chabad or not so I don’t call him Chabad. He’s now trying to cover up for Manc Friedman. Rabbi Feldman called him a Kofer for stating publicly that today no Jew can be punished no ma what he does. This is a clear denial of the principle of Schar Veonesh, so Nope twists what Rabbi Feldman said so that he’s not really saying he’s a Kofer and that Rabbi Feldman was obligated to call Manic and have him clarify what he meant. Another statement of Manic Friedman is that Mitzvahs are not commandments which must be kept rather they’re nice things which we do to fulfill G-d”s needs. So Manic holds that G-d d has needs literally which is also Kefirah. To this point Nope cited a Rashi which says that G-d has needs. Nope is very skilled at twisting and cherry picking statements from Chazan to cover up for Chabad. The simple and correct Pshat is that Manic is a Kofer. Similarly Cumin is a Kofer for stating that the Rebbe runs the world. This is part of the Chabad playbook. When they say he’s Moshiach it doesn’t mean they think he’s Moshiach. When they say he’s god clothed in human form they don’t mean that. Nope is clever but he’s a liar Good luck dealing with him.
,To yankel berel
Now that we’ve proven that L Rebbe wasn’t a Novi which lie should we work on next? How about the Rebbe is Moshiach. The son of a Chabad Rabbi offered this proof to me, “Tell me someone who’s more fit to be Moshiach.” This is how ridiculous their false religion is. The problem is not so much the Lubavitchers but the fools who defend their lies and Kefirah.