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To Benedict ARSo
For someone who claims to be “a high-level Talmud teacher” you don’t know basic 3rd grade Halacha. There’s a Din of judging frum Jews L’kaf Zchus, but you read yankel berel’s citation of”Qwerty” and decided that I’m schizophrenic. You know full well that my Hebrew literacy is almost non-existent so how could you think I wrote that post? Chazal teach that hatred is akin to idolatry. You hate me so much that you’d believe anything negative said about me. What a Rosho you are. And you still haven’t explained why that yeshiva kicked you out on your ARSo.
To the real Jews in this thread
Lostspark is above responding to my question. Translation, he’s been checkmated. I don’t speak or write Loshon Hora. And Benedict ARSo can add to his list of aveiros in accepting slander directed against me. The fact that people go to such extremes to demonize me is further proof of how effective I am as a writer. Thank you, Benedict. Oh, my mistake you don’t read my posts. LOL
To Lostspark
Sorry to burst your bubble but I, for one, am not a Litvak. I’m a Galitziyaner Chossid, great einekel of Rav Meir Premishlan. Of course, I don’t follow Chassidic mores and neither did my father. What we see from this thread is that all rational G-d-fearing Jews are against Chabad.
To Minuval
You must be beautiful because you’re definitely stupid. Last year someone in Menachem Shmei’s thread wrote that all Lubavichers agreed that Moshiach can’t come from the dead, but they did a 180 on Gimmel Tammuz. I confirmed this with one of my Chabad friends. What does mainstream Judaism believe? We believe that Moshiach will be that person who fulfills Rambam’s criteria. Can that person come from the dead? The Gemara says yes, but I was told that the Chafetz Chaim paskened otherwise. As for your quoting “Qwerty 613” do you not understand that this is an impostor? Take a look at his first post on Nov 7. It’s written by someone who barely speaks English but is fluent in Hebrew. I’ve admitted on numerous occasions that I don’t read Hebrew sources. You’re so desperate to “get” me that you’ve lost all rationality. Then again the Vilna Gaon said that the simplest answer is the truth, “You’re a moron in addition to being a sleaze bag.”
To Lostspark
What’s taking you so long? Oh that’s right you’re busy trying to find the Chofetz Chaim’s Sefer on Shmiras Haloshon. What’s the matter? They don’t sell it in CH?
To Minuval
Let’s set the record straight. The anti Chabadskers are not the ones who said Moshiach can’t come from the dead. That was the position of Chabad until Gimmel Tammuz when they did a 180 and decided to rely on the Gemara. What the anti Lubavitchers are saying is that the Rebbe is not Moshiach at this time as many(all) of his Chassidim believe
And the reason we can aver that he isn’t Moshiach is because he didn’t fulfill Rambam ‘s criteria. Glad that I could clarify these issues for such a clear headed person like you.To Lostspark
Please provide an example of Loshon Hora that I wrote about the Rebbe. That’s post number date and time.
To yankel berel
No point in pushing Menachem Shmei. He knows he’s been defeated but since he’s an idolater he won’t admit it. Like the serpent he is he’s waiting in the bushes for some irrelevant discussion to arise so he can steer the subject. In any event he knows and the moderators know that it’s checkmate for Chabad on this thread.
To yankel berel
During the past summer I spent a Shabbos at a Bikur Cholim residence because I was visiting a family member who was hospitalized. They had numerous Sefarim including a Chabad pamphlet which talka about Moshiach. This pamphlet went through Rambam ‘s criteria. Apparently a segment of Chabad still accepts Rambam s Psak. The point is that Chabad just flings garbage against the wall and hopes something sticks.
To yankel berel
Menachem no Sheim and the Minuval act like it’s a simple thing to argue against Rambam. Maybe for Raavad and Ramban but not for some clowns with Chabad Smicha. Imagine a fifth grade science teacher challenging Einstein. What Chabad is proposing is far more insane.
To Minuval
No one said it’s Kefirah to pasken against Rambam. What I wrote and yankel confirmed is that it’s hypocritical for Chabad to brag that they’re aficionados of Rambam and then when a certain Psak of his refutes their Moshiach claim they reject it. You have a annoying habit of misrepresenting what the real Jews in this thread are saying in order to advance your crooked agenda.
To yankel berel
It seems like Benedict ARSo morphed into Minuval Chamberlain, non Lubavitchers who farenfer for Shmei. Neither one, of course will answer the question. They just dance around it, thinking we’re fooled. Well we’re not fooled and more to the point Hashem isn’t fooled. Not that swine like them care about Hashem.
To the group
Shmei has doubled down on his refusal to answer the question so let me share an answer from a different Lubavicher. Last year:some loony tune wrote on VIN, “Rambam paskens Halacha but Halacha only applies on earth, but Chsbad lives on planet Atzilus which transcends the earth.” Is it any wonder that these lunatics think that a dead Rabbi is god?
To the group
Shmei used his favorite cop-out answer to wit, “I addressed this several times already.” Of course no one will buy that so he’ll try his second favorite answer, “No one in the thread knows enough to understand my logic.” There used to be an ad, “You don’t have to be Jewish to love Levy’s.” You don’t have to be a liar to be Chabad but it surely helps. I’m sorry Menachem for humiliating you. Hey I missed you these last two weeks. You have a unique lying style.
To the real Jews
Menachem Shmei writes, “I have clarified my position on this(Chabad rejecting Rambam viv a vis Moshiach):several times here, and I won’t change my mind.” Translation: I’ve been checkmated and I have no answer.
To the group
Let’s not forget the question that stumped Shmei, “How could Chabad reject Rambam ‘s criteria for Moshiach?”
I think all of you just 🤣crazy to talk about Chabad,try to be beasy with mitzvot instead so much avarot.אתם בטח כולכם אוכלי חינם,לכו לעבוד במקום לנצל את הממשלה שלכם או את ישיבות שלכם ,כולכם שקרנים וגנבים,תשתפו את הפיות שלכם לפני שמדברים על חבד,תתביישו לכם ותלכו לעזאזל בעזרת השם.תלכו למות עוד הלילה.
To the group
“Why should something be a little too far just because it’s a Chabad minhag?” So why do you criticize Chabad for believing that Schneersohn is god? That’s our Minhag. Try again serpent. No one’s buying your garbage. You had ample opportunity to answer our challenges and you failed to do so Case closed. Sorry, checkmate. Time for you to kiss up to ARSo looks like he changed sides again.
To the group
Now I believe that the Rebbe will return. We see from Menachem Shmei that there’s Techiyas Hameisim. The phony returns to start some irrelevant discussion about taking off shoes at the Ohel. Nothing has changed. R.I.P. Chabad on YWN.
To ARSo
I agree with you. Maybe yankel berel is using shtikah khodsah lav Davka. What he means is that Shmei knows he’s been defeated in this thread and so he has to find a different approach. Shmei and the others will never see the light because they’re idolaters.
To the group
I guess the question to ask is, “What’s next for Chabad?” Even though there’s plenty of trash in the Orthodox world, as we saw in this thread, at the end of the day they won’t sign on to Chabad’s godless Judaism. And despite their hype Chabad isn’t getting anywhere with disenfranchised Jews. The answer is to reach out to Christians. We see how excited they got when Milei and Trump visited the Ohel. Initially they’ll pretend that they’re advancing the Rebbe’s Ben Noach initiative but eventually they’ll make them Chabad. Just my theory.
To Philosopher
Yes we’ve eliminated Chabad in this thread but our work is only beginning. You see that always isn’t impressed. He favors the Chabad lies. The Minuval is hiding in Shmei’s bunker. ARSo certainly can’t be trusted. For those who believe in Hashem there are no questions, but many if not most Frum Jews should be considered Orthodox atheists. Their actions belie their belief in Hashem.
To the moderators
You did a wonderful job allowing the truth to win out. Yasher koach.
To always
That story was clearly a lie. Chabad loves taking shots at Aish Hatorah whenever possible. Is it true that Chabad does good,? Definitely and I encourage them but until they drop the deification of the Rebbe we must fight them.
To Philosopher
Most Chareidim associate Judaism with rituals, a nice esrog, fancy shtreimels so they won’t even listen when the subject of theology comes up.To ARSo
So now you want to return to our side? Okay. I’ll “forget” what you did and welcome you back. Let me share something that Rabbi Dovid Hollander told me, “You can’t understand a Rosho, because you’re not a Rasha.” Chabad obviously will never admit defeat. I’ll give you a Moshol. Someone started a business and was introduced to an investment advisor. The fellow told him to put aside a small amount every month and trust him to invest it. They decided on $200 a month. It went very nicely. The businessman was making between 7 and 8 percent a month. After 20 years he had accumulated a small fortune, but the advisor told him not to take anything out until he retired or he’ll get killed with the taxes. Of course he agreed. One day an emergency arose and he needed to tap into the fund. You can guess the rest. He had been scammed from the start. Do you know how hard it is to deal with that. Shmei’s bright. He knows his religion is a lie but he can’t deal with it so he looks to convince people like you to join with him in his fantasy. And he pulled it off. I saw what he was trying and I warned you not to fall for it but you accepted his blandishments. He tried to do the same to yankel berel but it didn’t work.
To yankel berel
You’re obviously right. Let me share another story.More than a dozen years ago I attended the Jewish National Retreat. That’s Chabad’s annual Convention (it’s a story as to why I went). It ran Wednesday through Sunday. On Shabbos afternoon I attended a lecture but I don’t recall the “Rabbi”. He related the following, “There was a Yemenite boy, about 20 years old who wanted to become religious so he went to one of those heh, heh, heh Kiruv Yeshivas in Israel. The first day day he was there they told him that you get rewarded for every Mitzvah and punished for every sin. And when thep punish you they put you in hell and burn you with coals. The boy went through this abuse for a week and finally told the Rabbi to go to hell. Then he came to Chabad and he found love. And now he’s happy.” Obviously Aush Haftorah doesn’t use such an approach but it’s true that there’s reward and punishment. Chabad’s Rabbis laugh it off because Schneersohn told them that he eliminated Gehinnom.
To Menachem Shmei
I can’t speak for the others but AFAIC, if you admit that we’re right I’ll welcome you back to actual Judaism. You have my word no checkmates whatsoever.
To yankel berel
I like to be fair. Shmei is bright. He knows that he’s lost. Obviously he can’t admit it so he’s laying low hoping that some opening develops. He thought he could turn you against me and Philosopher. When that failed he disappeared. Moreover, the traitors who sided with him left the thread.
To the real Jews
Sue Fishkoff wrote a book called “The Rebbe’s Army” about 20 years ago. She interviewed prominent Lubavitchers male and female. Once she spoke to Rebbetzin Rivka Slonim who happens to be a fine person. She told Ms Fishkoff that when she was a little girl she went to sleep away camp and they taught her, “From 770 we are marching out.” She said the song made no sense to her because the Rebbe was totally spiritual. I understand how difficult it is for Chabad to face the truth about their leader but it’s very clear. When he was 3 years old he had a dream that he’ll rule the world and everything he did in his life was to make that Mishigas a reality.
To coffee addict
Shmei is hiding in his bunker. He finally realizes that his cause is lost. He’s afraid of yankel berel because he knows he can’t attack him like he does to me and Philosopher.Baruch Hashem the real Jews have exposed the truth about Chabadianity.
To Philosopher
I’m glad you mentioned Manis Friedman. He has enough cache to speak the truth. The same for the Jacobson brothers. They know that the Rebbe spouted Kefirah but they won’t say anything. They’re very smart guys and they could spin it in a way that it almost sounds Kosher but they refuse.
To yankel berel
Again you’re absolutely right. The thing with Chabad is that they have no concern for the truth. Moreover they take pride in lying so you can’t get them to concede to anything. We know that at 120 we have to answer to Hashem. They have a different mindset, if you catch my drift.
To Menachem Shmei
Your last post was very well written. So why don’t you use your Torah erudition to explain why Chabad rejects Rambam ‘s criteria for Moshiach? Checkmate.
To coffee addict
It’s just another example of their deification of the Rebbe. Chabad has their own Ushpizin whom they honor rather than our traditional seven. They have nine . The Rebbe is number nine and they honor him on Simchas Torah. Since there’s no longer any inyan of Sukkah he’s free to travel all over the world.
To Philosopher
Manis Friedman is a Chabad Rabbi which means he’s a puppet of the Rebbe. No Chabad Rabbi will ever exercise his free will and announce that their religion is a set of lies. According to Chabad the Mitzvahs are optional and there are no consequences if someone rejects them. As we see from this thread Lubavitchers throw themselves on a sword to farenfer all the Rebbe’s heresies.
To yankel berel
I’d like to add to what you wrote. According to the Rebbe it’s Assur to say that the six million were killed because of the breakdown of European Jewry. The Rebbe also cancelled the concept of Gehinnom for sinners. As far as he was concerned all Jews except for one are the same. Therefore Rav Moshe and Ed Koch are equal. The only exception, of course, is the Chabad Nasi. Guess who that would be? Shmei tries to keep the discussion focused on nonsense like Yaakov Lo Mes to avoid these truths from coming out. Every Yid is a Big Tzaddik is an outgrowth of the Rebbe’s heresy.
To yankel berel
Very well said. Another reason the Rebbe wouldn’t let his Chassidim mention the Shoah is that it leads to the obvious question, “If the Rebbe runs the world why didn’t he stop it?”
To Philosopher
We see that the Rebbe is greater than Yaakov Avinu. He’s able to leave his box on Mondays and Thursdays to get Shlishi at 770.
To the group
It’s time to end Shmei’s latest obfuscation attempt. Here’s a question for all, “There are two opinions regarding Iyov. One says he was an advisor to Pharoah and the other says he never existed. So who’s right?” Time is up. They’re both right. It’s called Eilu Veilu Divrei Elokim. Similarly we have in this thread the rational approach espoused by Philosopher and I, and the irrational tack favored by the serpent. Each is valid. I have a friend who’s a Chassidic Rabbi on the East Side. He constantly tells stories about Rebbe’s flying on magic carpets. Hey whatever floats your boat, but it’s not for me. The rational approach isn’t perfect. There’s much in the Torah that we can’t explain or understand but remember what Benedict ARSo wrote, “We don’t die from a question.” On the other hand the danger of blindly following the irrational is that a new religion called Chabadianity has emerged.To Philosopher
If you follow the wiles of Menachem Shmei he has two agendas. The first is to depict us as insane idiots. Obviously classic projection. But there’s another tack, more pervasive and insidious and that’s to make “crazy the new normal.” So why is this? Chazal teach that a person doesn’t sin unless he benefits from it. Clearly it’s in Shmei’s interest to promote insanity, but why? Chabad’s greatest enemy is Rambam because he represents normative Judaism and normalcy. As a rule he eschews the phantasmagoric. Obviously this is anathema for Chabad and so they have to discredit him while at the same time pretending to honor him. Let me give you a clear cut example. This past Pesach I attended the Seudas Moshiach at my Chabad Shul. The Rabbi spoke about that day’s Haftorah which says that the wolf will lie down with the lamb etc. He quoted Rambam who, of course, said it’s allegorical but then he said that Ramban says it’s literal and Chabad follows Ramban. Which leads us to ask, Why do they study Rambam? The answer is that they don’t study anything. Their Torah is simply finding quotes to prove their psychosis and so it’s a Toeivah, no different than what the original Christians did.
To Menachem Shmei
Again you twist what I and Philosopher are saying. My Shittah, and apparently it’s similar to that of Philosopher is that Hashem created a world which follows natural law. Therefore we try to minimize the occurrence of miracles which violate natural law. Obviously I agree that Hashem is capable of transcending natural law and so I would never reject such a possibility. Rather I try to explain things without resorting to such types of miracles. Let me, of course make it clear that I didn’t invent this approach. It’s in line with Rambam. That’s the Rabbi, whose work you Lubavitchers make a Siyum on yearly, but reject what he said about Moshiach. Total hypocrisy. I will also add that the Shittah of rationalism is in line with all my Rabbonim and so don’t accuse me of inventing my own religion as did your lying Kofer god.
To yankel berel
Could you provide the quote from Ezra? I doubt he used the word oxygen.
To yankel berel
I’d like to comment on your post even though you addressed it to Philosopher. Using the Avos paradigm there are four ways to interpret information, to know that it’s true to believe it, to accept it and finally to reject it. I would argue that we only know that which Hashem gave us as part of His natural law. So I know that one plus one is two efc. These are facts which are universally accepted. As for belief, I believe in Hashem and His Torah. To believe means that I can offer cogent proofs to their veracity. Then we’ll skip to rejecting. If one rejects aor changes, as the Rebbe did, any aspect of the Torah, Written or Oral, he’s a Kofer. But let’s discuss acceptance. I accept that Yishai lived until the age of 400 but I don’t believe it, therefore I won’t present arguments to validate that Chazal. At the same time I don’t reject it, so I recognize that at this juncture I can’t understand what it actually means. Similarly I’ll accept that Yonah survived for 3 days w/o oxygen but I don’t believe it. Of course if Hashem decided to perform a special miracle He’s certainly able to do so. This is my Shittah developed in conjunction with several great Rabbis. We reject the Rabbi Miller approach of, “Accept what I say or you have no Cheilek in Olam Habo.” If you or others would like to discuss this in a civilized manner I’m happy to do so.
To Philosopher
The Minuval has no interest in Judaism, he just wants to act like a jerk. Ignore him and hopefully he’ll go away.
To Menachem Shmei
To your credit you don’t call me a liar. To your discredit you’re so determined to disprove whatever I say that you don’t take the time to discern the facts. From 2003-2009 I attended a YI which had a militantly Chabad Rabbi. It was from him that I learned most of what I’ve posted here(his son -in-law is the fellow who said that the Rebbe is greater than Moshe Rabbeinu). During those six years I gave a weekly Dvar Torah at Shalosh Seudas. One Shabbos I mentioned the Holocaust and this Rabbi interrupted the speech telling me that the Rebbe said this subject can’t be discussed. In July 2009 I made up my mind to leave the shul because of this Rabbi’s abuse and so I made my last speech about the Shoah knowing he’d go ballistic and he did. In the Chabad shul I attend I never express my views and I get along great with everyone. It’s called being a Mensch something you know very little about. Interesting tidbit. This Erev Yom Kippur I davened Mincha at the YI. After we finished the Rabbi asked me for Mechilah. Of course I gave it to him. You and the others want to portray me in the worst possible light. Unfortunately for you Hashem knows better. It’s only in a thread like this one where I can and do express my views on Chabad, views which are shared by my Rabbonim.
To the real Jews which includes the moderators
Shlomo Hamelech wrote that a three-ply cord isn’t easily severed. Now that Philosopher, yankel berel and yours truly are working together the low lives of this thread are doomed. Mm ay Hashem eliminate idolatrous Chabad and replace it with a vibrant form that believes in Him as it was before you know who took over.
To the enemies of Hashem in this thread
You try to blame the moderators. To borrow from the Bard, “The fault lies not in the moderators but in ourselves.”
To Minuval
I challenge you to find one post in which I said there’s something wrong with getting a Bracha from another Jew. Moreover going to Kivrei Tzaddikim is normative Judaism. Checkmate moron. May you join Benedict ARSo in the dustbins of YWN CR history. You traitors deserve each other.
To Minuval
Why would I or anyone have a problem with what Philosopher wrote? It’s Judaism 1.0.
To Minuval
Why would I or anyone have a problem with what Philosopher wrote? It’s part of Judaism 1.0.
To the real Jews in the group
Here’s another interesting Chabad tidbit. Lubavitchers never discuss the Holocaust as per the Rebbe’s orders. I knew that and so one Shabbos I gave a speech focusing on the Shoah in order to annoy a certain Chabad Rabbi. As I anticipated he blew a gasket and announced,”The Holocaust is one of those times when G-d couldn’t explain himself. Like when the Romans were torturing Rabbi Akiva and the angels said Zeh Torah and Zeh it’s Schar? And Hashem couldn’t answer them.” They view the Rebbe and Hashem as good god, bad god. The Rebbe gives people what they want and Hashem causes events like October 7th.
To Lostspark
I’m no longer wasting time with you, so don’t bother writing to me I won’t respond.
To Philosopher and yankel berel
A while back I suggested that we avoid any contact with the Lubavich looneys and their traitorous supporters. I’m glad to see that you’re now following my advice. As far as Hashem is concerned they don’t exist as the Gemara says, A Rosho is dead even while he’s in this world.”
To the real Jews which includes the moderators
Lostspark is lost even by Chabad’s reckoning. If an intermarried Mechallel walked into their “shul” on Yom Kippur they’d give him Maftir Yonah for free but Lostspark is obsessed with Modern Orthodoxy. The truth is that Chabad hates all Jews that they can’t convert to their krum religion.
To Philosopher
This story I heard from my son.He attended a singles event about a year ago and a Lubavicher told it to him. According to Chabad theology Hashem is restrained by natural law but the Rebbe has no boundaries and so he can do anything. It’s interesting that they say he could snap his fingers and give childless couples triplets but he couldn’t get his wife pregnant and he can Mikarev Woody Allen but he couldn’t straighten out his own brothers.
To the group
Menachem Shmei now comes to his “boyfriend’s” defense. Two or three weeks ago ARSo said that he won’t ask any Rabbi if Yaakov is physically alive because he knows more than them given that he was a high level Gemara teacher
He added that he had to leave the job because of family issues. The Gaon said that anything a person says is a lie and so I doubted ARSo’s explanation. I didn’t call him a liar rather I asked him to explain what type of family issues were involved. He refused to answer and so I speculated that he was lying and actually the Yeshiva threw him out. He still refused to comment and so I further “guessed” what he may have done. ARSo can end the speculation but if he refuses I have every right to propose the worst. There is no Mitzvah to Dan him LKaf Zechus. He’s worthless trash. Thank G-d he doesn’t read my posts anymore.. LOL.