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To Philosopher
Now Shmei is pulling a Bill Clinton. ARSo never said that Yaakov is still alive. All he said is that Rashi says so and if you question Rashi you’re an Apikorus and/or an idiot. There’s a new jerk entering the fray. That would be Neville Chamberlain. His ploy is to split us up because he sees how seamlessly we work together. Never underestimate the power of Sheker. It looks like coffee addict wants to start up again. Boy will he be sorry
To coffee addict
Do you think that Yaakov Avinu is still alive?
To philosopher
According to Benedict ARSo the Rebbe is worthless because he never went to Yeshiva. Instead he went to college with Freier Jews and Goyim. It’s fun to watch that moron try to talk his way out of the messes he causes by his own stupidity.. I knew a Rav who was also a doctor. He was brilliant. One summer he had an internship at the Rockefeller Institute. He told me that the people there were geniuses but most were moral reprobates and liars. The Ikkar for Hashem is a sincere desire to find the truth.skmething which Menachem Goebbels and Benedict ARSo have no interest in.
To Philosopher
It’s a good thing that those two low lives formed an axis of evil. Makes it easier for Hashem to dispose of them. Many years ago Rabbi David Hollander zl told me something very powerful, “Don’t try to understand a Rasha because you’re not a Rasha.” Let’s see what he meant. Perhaps Anne Frank’s most famous quote is, “In spite of everything, I still think that people are good at heart.” Obviously she was wrong. There are different types of people and we have to recognize that some are trash. And there’s nothing that can be done about them. They can’t be rehabilitated. The garbage that Chabad’s dead god promoted that he’ll save every Jew implied that he’ll get them all to do Tshuvah. Ah nechtegi tug. He couldn’t straighten out his two lost brothers. In Nitzavim we read that the esoteric is for Hashem but we have to function in the world of Nigleh. That can be summed up by Hillel’s pithy comment, “That which you find offensive don’t do to others.” But Molotov and Von Ribbentof don’t care about the principles of basic human courtesy. Chazal tell us that to be respected one must give respect. Does the high level Gemara teacher understand that? The Shmei’s of the world can quote their Kabbalah BS but his and his cohort’s Torah is a Toeivah. And I mean exactly what I say. And the MOD’s agree with me Boruch Hashem.
To 2qwerty
Do you really think Shmei will answer any of your questions? He’ll probably say they were all addressed dozens of times. He’s not worried about lying in Elul. His king is in the field and in a box in Queens.
To Philosopher
The Midrash says that when dealing with Lavan Yaakov had to act like Lavan. As you can tell from our pleasant exchanges I’m a very easy going person who has tons of friends many of whom are great Rabbis. Unfortunately because of trash like Shmei and Benedict ARSo I’m faced with a choice, either sink to their level and be equally ruthless or bow out. Since the need to eradicate sheker is so important I’ve chosen the former. This said, unlike that pile of excrement I stand on my word. ARSo is crazy if he thinks Hashem has any place for someone who’s not only a liar but he attacks those who disagree with him only to end up admitting we were right. If he was actually a Gemara teacher we can only imagine the percentage of boys who went OTD. Now Shmei and Benedict have officially formed an alliance. It’s a beautiful thing a modern day Hitler Stalin pact.
To the group
Let me share a story. I grew up on the LES in the sixties. At the time there was a large Chassidic element in the neighborhood and Yeshiva Shlomo Kluger was there(it’s now in Borough Park.) My mother sent me there through the fourth grade but it was a bad fit because I didn’t speak Yiddish and I wasn’t particularly Frum. I did however excel in English studies so at the start of my last year there a classmate approached me, “There’s a new boy in the class and he’s going to beat you in English (he didn’t) and he’s a real Jew” Almost 60 years later the memory of that encounter is still vivid. ArSo said he’s a Chassid. From his despicable posts I can tell that he’s just like my classmate. A nasty, worthless bigot and a walking Chillul Hashem. Benedict ARSo is a self loving Jew but he hates everyone else.
To the group
The new and disproved Benedict ARSo, who retracts his position more often than people change their underwear, is now saying that he never said Yaakov is still alive. All he was saying is that one can’t reject Rashi based on logic. So this schizo is rejecting Rashi based on illogic. Makes perfect sense if you live in the Bizarro world or if your name is Shmei.
To ARSo
It’s over. When I pretended to bow out I was just setting my trap for you. Thanks for proving my superiority in every imaginable way. Btw have a nice Shabbos loser.
To philosopher
Yasher Koacha. We’ve finally broken that anal polyp. For the past two weeks Benedict ARSo has been pounding away that he agrees with his Rebbe Shmei that Yaakov Avinu is alive because he follows Rashi’s Pshat. Now, realizing that he’s cornered, because he knows that no actual Rabbi , Chabad Christians don’t count, believe that Yaakov is alive, he does a 180 and says he never said Yaakov is alive. Yes, this is someone s yeshiva would hire to teach our precious children.
To the mods
You’re doing a great job. Don’t pay attention to that anal wart.
To the group
The primordial serpent calls ARSo a level headed poster. That tells you all you need to know about the psychosis called Chabad.
To ARSo
I praised Lostspark for his anti Rav Shach post..This demonstrated the truth about Chabadianit as opposed to Shmei’s BS.. Congratulations, you’re even sicker than he is.
To philosopher
ARSo can now rest in pieces. That phony jerk has been fully exposed. He would have told Rabbi Akiva to shut up because he had no Yichus.
To 2qwerty
We’re not related are we? Just kidding. The Torah says,”Al Pi Shnayim O Shalosh” Join the club to eliminate this moron pretending to be a Talmid Chacham. If he has any Busha he’ll disappear never to be heard from again. He’s the classic example of what Avos warns about, “Don’t use the Torah as an axe ” He has a little Torah knowledge and thinks he can bully others who rely on logic and the opinions of real Rabbis not self styled “high level Torah teachers.” Why don’t you convert to Chabadianity? You’ll fit right in with those liars and atheists.
To philosopher
At least Benedict ARSo answered our challenge. That’s something Shmei would never do. And what was his answer,”I was a high level gemoro teacher.,” Right and because of that he knows more than any Rabbi in the world including the Rabbis of the shuls he attends. There is no way he was ever a Rebbe because such an arrogant jerk wouldn’t last a day. He’s probably an escepee from a psych ward. As for ARSo questioning how I can side with Maharsha, how can he reject his Pshat. Oh yeah he’s a high level Torah teacher. What a joke. Boy you can say anything on line if you don’t believe in Hashem.
To Benedict ARSo
The only schar you’ll get is from the sitra achra. Lostspark is celebrating the fact that you have teamed up with Shmei to prove that the Rebbe is Moshiach. Congratulations you have haskama from the group you claim to be against. You are one sick dude. Hashem should take care of you ASAP.
To philosopher
You see how these low lives “debate”. They dismiss you on gender and you see how obsessed they are with me. Hashem is writing everything down. They need to go to the Wizard and ask for a brain. If they use the Igros they’ll be given one which believes that Hitler’s Talmid is god. Don’t stay up waiting for Benedict ARSo to name a Rabbi who’s as nuts as he is. I miss Seichel. At least he’s not an Ohel (Chabad pronunciation) like our new Three Stooges Shmei, Lostspark and Benedict ARSo. Hey ARSo did I spell Talmid correctly you pathogen?
To Menachem Shmei
I wrote Bli Neder because I assumed that someone would say something that forces me to respond. When I wrote “He has no beliefs except other than an insatiable thirst to throw his weight around” I was referring to ARSO not to you. Your belief is very clear, “It’s to defend your god in a box.”
To ARSo
I already conceded that you’re right about Rashi saying that Yaakov Avinu is alive.but I and all rational Jews follow Maharsha who disagree with Rashi. By the way who does your Rabbi follow? Oh I forgot no respectable Rabbi would have anything to do with a dirt bag like you.
To Lostspark
It takes a retard to know one. At least I’m successful. What gave you done in your life other than make idiotic Kefirah statements?
To yankel berel
Please stop wasting your time with Benedict ARSo. You’re too good for him
To philosopher
You see how quiet Shmei is. He’s letting that buffoon Benedict ARSo do his fighting for him. If yankel berel stopped arguing with ARSo he’d turn back to Shmei. He has no beliefs other than an insatiable thirst to throw his weight around. I once heard a Rabbi discuss such “people.” “Yes it’s unpleasant to deal with them for an hour a day, but remember they have to live with themselves on a constant basis.” I’m sure he’s universally reviled. His poor wife assuming she didn’t leave him.
To yankel berel, coffee addict and philosopher
You get a different perspective observing the proceedings from the sidelines. It’s my sage advice that you cease and desist from any discussions with Benedict ARSo and the primordial serpent because neither has any interest in the truth. You know that this is so because neither ever acknowledges any point made by the other side. So to coffee addict and philosopher just tell them that they’re “right,” about Rashi’s Pshat on Yaakov Lo Meis but you agree with Maharsha. And to yankel berel tell ARSo that you’ll leave aside Ramban and focus on Rambam..As you’ve articulated Rambam clearly states the qualifications for Moshiach and this eliminated we all know who. It’s interesting that when ARSo joined the thread it was to attack Chabad. Shmei cleverly told him that he agrees with everything he wrote. ArSo was stupid enough to believe him. Without Shmei to fight he turned on his allies because ARSo just likes confrontation. Yesterday when I announced I was out ARSo immediately turned his attention back to Shmei. A fees weeks ago Boteach and Owens debated. Someone on VIN commented, “They deserve each other.” The same can be said for Shmei and ARSO. Never forget, “We are right and Chabad’s days are numbered.”
To the group
Philosopher gave me a wonderful piece of Mussar and I’m accepting it. Aside from being a woman of truth, she’s also clearly a very nice person. To that point Bli Neder I’m out of the thread. Let me say that I stand by every word I said. To borrow from the Rebbe, “I’ve done all I can to bring down the idolatrous element of Chabad now I give it over to Hashem.”
To yankel berel
So now ArSo is also arguing with you. He states that Menachem Shmei cites phony sources to prove that the Rebbe is Moshiach but on the other hand he defends Shmei against those trying to disprove that the Rebbe is Moshiach. ArSo is a contrarian and or a nut job
To philosopher
Your basic points have been obscured by the Yaakov Lo Mes discussion but I intend to do something about that. Yesterday I was in shul for Mincha Maariv on the East Side. A Rabbi saw me writing on line and asked what I’m doing. I told him I’m fighting Chabad. He made a face so I explained, “Do you know they believe the Rebbe is god?” He responded,”I know but not all of them believe it.” He’s a very nice guy and a big Talmid Chacham so I decided not to pursue the discussion any further People know that Chabad is idolatry but they don’t care because the Yeshivas pound away about Loshon Hora Sinas Chinam etc that they’re paralyzed to inaction. . The Gemara says that when there’s idolatry in the world Hashem’s a in her flares. How much moreso when the idolaters are trying to firm a new Judaism sans Hashem.
To ARSo
Do you agree that the Rebbe declared himself god clothed in human form in 1962 and that he said he’s Moshiach in 1951 and that Lubavitchers believe they’re better than all other Jews and that the Rebbe’s goal was to conquer the world? Please tell me which if any of those statements you disagree with.
To philosopher
You’ll recall that I referred to Shmei as the primordial serpent aka the Yetzer hora. What I meant is that neither one ever gives up. Yesterday coffee addict checkmated Shmei’s literal interpretation of Yaakov Lo Meis. A normal person would acknowledge that he was beaten. What does Shmei do? He tries to fend off my challenge and he “forgets” coffee’s proof. Satan never gives up because he’s a Malach of Hashem and he must continue his mission. Shmei can’t give up because he’s following his god.
To philosopher
You’ll recall that I referred to Shmei as the primordial serpent aka the Yetzer hora. What I meant is that they never give up. Yesterday coffee addict checkmated Yaakov Lo Meis. A normal person would acknowledge that he was beaten. What does Shmei do? He tries to fend off my challenge and he “forgets” coffee’s proof. Satan never gives up because he’s a Malach of Hashem and he must continue his mission. Shmei can’t give up because he’s following his god.
To ARSo
You make a lot of points so I’ll try to deal with them one by one. I asked you to name a living non Chabad Rabbi who says Yaakov is still alive and you refuse. This means that you are on an island with lying Lubavitchers against all real Jews. Second, when I said that you think philosopher is Chayav Misah I was kidding like yankel berel was kidding when he implied that I think Lubavitchers aren’t Jews. Sadly, you have no sense of humor which is another reason you’re jealous of me. As for Rav Gigi’s comment I found it on line and he quotes the Ohr Hachaim as understanding Yaakov Lo Med non literally. If I found it you can find it. In addition, I found a Dear Torah from Benjamin Rose who quotes the Ksav Sofer and he also learns Yaakov Lo Mes non literally. Next, your statement about Dr. Berger. A little lomdus. Rabbi Sacks said that the Rebbe studied Hitler. If he studied him it was for a reason(s). Chabad considers themselves superior to all other Jews. In addition the Rebbe’s goal was to conquer the world. I have spelled that out in several posts. Dr. Berger personally told me that the Rebbe spoke on several occasions about conquering the world. So why is it so difficult for you to understand that Dr. Berger would agree that the Rebbe picked up ideas from that Satan? Now let’s end with two points. You admit that Shmei brings phony sources to prove the Rebbe is Moshiach. Doesn’t that Posuk him in general. Second please tell me where Artscroll says that Rashi holds Yaakov Lo Mes literally. I will certainly check it out and if you’re correct I’ll acknowledge as much.
To philosopher
Obviously he does. Lubavitchers are very Makpid on such ethereal concepts as Sinas Chinam Ahavas Yisrael when they see their religion falling apart. Old fashioned stuff like idolatry isn’t important however.
To coffee addict
Let’s focus on your statement that Hashem doesn’t attach His Name to someone who’s dead. So Shmei answers that regarding Yizchok the term Elokei Yizchok was used even though he was alive. So Shmei speculates that “perhaps” we can say the same about Yaakov, to wit since he seemed dead we can say he was dead sort of. So now we need Shmei to invent his own Torah to prove the insanity that Yaakov is still alive. The Gaon said that the simplest answer is the truth. And the simplest answer is that When Rashi said that Yaakov is alive he meant alive as per Maharsha and/or Ohr Hachaim, that is not literally alive. Surely youRashi wasn’t following the Pshat of a lying weasel like Shmei who needs to believe that Yaakov is alive to convince dummies like ARSo that the Rebbe is still alive. Why doesn’t ArSo see what’s obvious to all? Because he’s insanely jealous of me and can’t deal with the thought that I beat him Nebach.
To ARSo
My Rav confirmed that Rabbi Alive said that a supporter of idolatry is considered an idolater but he didn’t remember off hand where it’s found. As for my comparing the Rebbe and Hitler you’re getting bent out of shape for nothing. I’m not equating them. Everyone who knew the Rebbe says he was a very nice person. What I said is that the Rebbe learned two things from Hitler, how to create brain-dead followers and how toto conquer the world. If you had an eighth of a brain you’d see I’m right. Maybe you need to be checkmated.
To coffee addict
You scored a direct hit with your two questions. Great job .ARSo the Shmei puppet can’t answer either question so he says, We don’t die from a question..” When we add my two questions is why do Maharsha and Ohr Hachaim not accept Rashi’s statement literally. So now there are 4 powerful challenges to the ridiculous notion that Yaakov is still alive. So you don’t kill yourself if you have a question but when you have 4 powerful questions that all prove that Rashi’s Pshat isn’t meant to be literal a rational person realizes he was wrong. As for Shmei’s bubba maasehs, pay no attention to them..I caught the lying Kofer in my previous post where he falsely represents a statement of Rav Yochanan. We have two liars. One ARSo whos unable to admit that he was fooled by Shmei. And Sbmei who pushed this Yaakov alive garbage to fool people into believing that his god Rebbuh is still alive.
To the group
Maharsha explains Yaakov Lo Meis to mean that his soul is immortal. So Maharsha and Ohr Hachaim don’t learn the Gemara literally. More good news. This time Shmei got caught with his pants down As I’ve said on many occasions Schneersohn’ is a lying Kofer because he rejected the Gemara in Cheilek. Again, Rava said that the events at the final redemption will mirror what happened at Yetzias Mitzrayim, meaning that only a small percentage will be redeemed. Since the Rebbe rejected this Gemara, all Chabad has to excuse his Kefirah. This is what Shmei came up with. He quoted Rav Yochanan saying, “It’s not satisfactory to Hashem that you said this about them is according to Resh Lakish most of the Jewish people will be doomed to Gehinnom. rather even if one learned only one law he has a share in Olam Habo. Very nice. Here’s the problem..That quote has nothing to do with Rava’s statement which comes 30 lines later on the Amud. Another failed attempt by Shmei to cover up for the Kofer in the box.
To coffee addict
Harav Baruch Gigi has an excellent Dvar Torah on the subject. He quotes the Ohr Hachaim who explained that Yaakov Lo Meis means that his mission continued because he left over 12 sons who were all Tzaddikim. We know they were righteous because they told Yaakov Shema Yisrael Hashem Elokeinu Hashem Echad. Enough of Shmei’s lies and ARSo’s stupidity.
To ARSo
I quoted Rabbi Plutchok telling me,”Everything you say about Chabad and the Rebbe is correct.” This means I have his Haskomah. But no I didn’t check the Hitler comparison with him, but Dr. Berger agrees with it so that’s reliable. I did quote Rabbi Plutchok saying that the Rebbe’s gaavah was so enormous he convinced himself that he’s god. That says it all As for the question I asked you. There’s actually two of them both on 9/17 at 20:49 am. One is a question and one is a challenge. The challenge is for you to name a living non-Chabad Rabbi who says Yaakov Avinu is still physically alive. The question is based on your statement. You said that if the discussion was Menachem’s belief in the LR and Moshiach you would disagree with everything he wrote. I asked you why you would disagree with him. I’m sure he has phony sources for this garbage. As for the Rabbi Akiva quote, bli Neder I’ll see my Rav tonight and get it. If I’m wrong I’ll admit it. Finally as I’ve said numerous not all Lubavitchers are idolaters and even those who are largely keep it to themselves so there’s no problem davening with them
To coffee addict
Very nice but Shmei will squirm out of it, ignore or change the subject like the pathological liar he is. Let the “goon” ARSo answer the question. He’s a total moron believing that Yaakov is alive because Shmei said so. I
To the group
I tried to engage in a discussion with ARSo but he’s acting like a jerk, so AFAIC he’s persona non grata. If he wants to end up with Shmei, gezunterheit.
To yankel berel
I didn’t understand your point. Are you implying that I don’t consider Lubavitchers to be Jewish? I certainly do and therefore Lostspark will be held accountable for yesterday’s despicable statement. He violated several Lavin and Ashes. Despite what L Rebbe said. Gehinnom still exists.
To always
I brought up the Halacha of studying Kabbalah after 40 because ARSo was insinuating that philosopher was Chayav Misah for learning Gemara. Interestingly he has no problem with Lubavitchers who violate the Kabbalah at 40 edict. In addition he won’t criticize Lostspark’s anti-Semitic trope directed at a Godol Byisrael. The Gemara says that anger is a form of idolatry. BA’s jealousy of my superiority has turned him into a supporter of Chabad idolatry.
To Lostspark
A grosse yasher koach. You did more, with your insane rant, to damage Chabad’s cause in this thread than all the anti- Lubavitchers combined. Great job.
To Benedict ARSo
Do you still want to be on Shmei’s team? Well as far as Hashem is concerned you’re accepting what Lostspark said. You better think long and hard as RH approaches. Hey coffee addict was also angry at me but he wished up and realized who the real enemy is. It’s your call dude.
To the group
This fellow gave a Yahrtzeit Kiddush for his mother last Shabbos. The Rabbi said that he never met the woman but he knows her because she must be like her son(he’s a great guy.,) We can say the same thing for the Rebbe. The 3 Stooges in this thread reflect perfectly on him.
To the group
I knew that my comparing the Rebbe and Hitler would raise some eyebrows but I won’t back down. Rabbi Sacks said that the Rebbe studied Hitler and said that he wanted to kill every Jew I’ll save every Jew. Sounds nice, but it’s just a sound byte. The Gaon said that everything a person says is a lie. What that means is people say what they think others want to hear. That’s why politicians tell their constituents that they’re going to clean up corruption and you know the rest. The Rebbe studied Hitler for two reasons. First he wanted to copy him and create a Chassidus of brain-dead followers. Mission accomplished. Next he wanted to conquer the world. Shmuel Boteach wrote a piece about 12 years ago in which he advocated razing 770 and replacing it with an international think tank. He said, “This will allow us to fulfill the Rebbe’s dream of global domination. When I discussed this with Dr. Berger he said that the Rebbe often spoke about conquering the world. Then we have the Chabad song From 770 we are marching out on to victory there is no doubt. One by one nations we are conquering. Then we have the Rebbe’s dream. When he was three or four he had a dream in which he was king of the world. Now the Shmei’s of the world will tell us that the Rebbe wanted to conquer the world with Torah. No one with a brain is buying it. As the Gaon said ,”The simplest answer is the truth. When the Rebbe announced in 1962 that he’s god clothed in human form, it was his coming out party as ruler of the universe.
To the group
Yemach Shmad takes duplicity to a new level. I wrote, “These are the rules AFAIC complete honesty and respecting the opposing viewpoint etc. To this Shmad wrote, “Qwerty thanks I laughed so hard when I read that ” Now there was nothing funny in that statement. If Shmad laughed it’s because he felt my statement was hypocritical. Therefore he must believe that I’m a liar and I don’t show respect to my opponents. As for the latter part that would be correct I don’t show respect to lying idolaters like Shmad, psychos like Lostspark and dirty traitors like Benedict ARSo. On the other hand, I am quite respectful to always even though we’re not on the same side. Now what’s left is for Shmad to address his insinuation that I’ve lied. He won’t because he knows I never lie. So to Menachem Shmad checkmate. To Benedict ARSo. I’m waiting for an answer or to see how you try to squirm out of the question.
To the group
Don’t be surprised by Lostsparks rant. From 2003 -2009 I attended a YI whose Rabbi was and is militantly Chabad. I used to speak at Shalosh Seudas. One Shabbos I decided to say something from the Gaon. I began by saying that he was the greatest Rabbi of the last 300 years. The Rabbi exploded, “Let me quote the Rogatchover Gaon, people think that the Vilna Gaon was a Gaon. Feh. There was only one Gaon, the Baal Hatanya.” This Rabbi also put down the Chofetz Chaim. I never heard them insult Rav Moshe but they tell a number of stories in which.he accepted the Rebbe as his superior.C’V.
To Menachem Shmei
You mocked my recent post calling for honesty in the thread and implied that I’m a liar. Please provide an example of a lie I’ve told. Give post number date and time.
To the group
Something else to consider. My Chabad Rabbi said that Gehinnom no longer exists. The Rebbe eliminated it when he became god. It was one of his campaign promises. Therefore according to Chabad a Jew can sin and he faces no consequences.
To always
It’s also Halacha that one doesn’t learn Kabbalah until he’s forty years old and has mastered Nigleh. That hasn’t stopped Chabad from encouraging children to study the esoteric. The phony ARSo will excuse that because he’s afraid to anger his new Bestie Menachem Shmad.
To ARSo
“I’m sure that if the discussion was Menachem’s belief in the LR and Moshiach I would disagree with everything he wrote.,” Please explain why you would disagree with him. I’m sure he has Chazal to back him up.
To ARSo
So in addition to being a traitor and a male chauvinist pig you’re also a moron. I’ve told you that everything I say I either heard from Rabbi Plutchok or I checked it’s veracity with him. So now I’m supposed to ask for his opinion. He calls himself a strict Maimonidean which means that he holds that Hashem never violates natural law. I’m not telling you to agree with him, I don’t agree with him o100 percent on that point. I just mentioned him to show you that there are great Rabbis who reject your stupidity. Menachem Shmad accepts that Yakov Avinu is alive because it fits his agenda, but only a numbskull like you also believes it. I challenge you to name a non Chabad Rabbi who takes that Chazal literally. I will Bli Neder contact him to verify that it’s true
To the group
Menachem Shmei claims that he answered my assertion that the Rebbe is a Kofer because he rejected the Gemara in Cheilek. Here’s the problem. The Rebbe rejected the Gemara without any reference to it. A Lubavicher taught me the Rebbe’s Sichah on the subject and there’s no mention of the Gemara at all. Rather he wrote as follows, “In the Haggadah it says, we tell the wicked son that had you been there you wouldn’t have been redeemed, but the Diyuk is that in Yemos Hamoshiach you will be redeemed.” Total nonsense. Then we have that Chabad Rabbi who rejected the plain Pshat because he claims to have a Rashi which contradicts the Pshat. Finally Menachem Shmei contradicts the Pshat by stating that R Yochanan disagreed. With it. So we have these 3 stooges who all reject plain Pshat because it goes against Schneersohn’s agenda. Why make up three different forced explanations. So Shmei will answer that the three approaches compliment each other. Good. So why can’t Chabad agree as to whether the Rebbe is alive or not. And why can’t they agree as to whether he is Moshiach or will be Moshiach. The Vilna Gaon said that the simplest answer is the truth. Chabad makes everything up. Last year when ARSo was in his right mind he argued forcefully and correctly that before Gimmel Tammuz there was no suggestion of Moshiach coming from the dead in CH. A day after Gimmel Tammuz part of Chabad, changed it’s mind. This is a made up religion which stinks from its head. That would be their god in a box. Checkmate.
To philosopher
Look how beautifully we get along. We respect and listen to each other’s opinions. Unfortunately Shmei and ARSo are always in attack mode. This is because they know their positions are indefensible. Let me clarify something. I’m from the LES but I no longer live there. However I spend an occasional Shabbos in the neighborhood. The main shul in the community is the Bialystoker. On Shabbos a certain Rebbitzen gives a class for about a dozen women. She’s exceptionally knowledgeable, and no one looks askance at her. Baruch Hashem on the LES no one pays attention to labels. All denominations of Jews get along with each other. ARSo is playing the woman card to push you off. I have him trapped now because he “dared” me to ask Rabbi Plutchok for his views..I obviously know what Rabbi Plutchok holds.because he’s been my Rav for over a decade. I think it’s time to checkmate ARSo which is the proper fate for anyone who chooses to associate with a primordial serpent and idolater instead of a real Jew like myself.
To the group
Menachem Shmei and ARSo are constantly demeaning Philosopher and yours truly by calling us ignorant and arrogant. Ignorant in Torah as we concede, and arrogant in that we deign to argue against such self-impressed luminaries. One can imagine that their ancestors were equally bombastic so let’s play out the following. A fellow arrives in the Bes Medrash some two thousand years ago. He doesn’t know very much and he asks a lot of seemingly childish questions. Shmei and ARSO senior complain to the Rosh Yeshiva to throw out the newcomer but their pleas fall on deaf ears. We all know the rest of the story. That “interloper” was Rabbi Akiva. Last Shabbos I came to shul(not Chabad. I don’t go there on weekdays because they start too late). I had a question for one of the Rabbis, “I left a piece of paper in my pants that I’d like to look at on Shabbos. Are my pants Muktzeh because they have money in them?” He told me they’re not Muktzeh and spent ten minutes explaining his reasoning..Later that day I returned for Mincha and the Rabbi thanked me. You know I liked your question very much and we spent our Shabbos meal discussing it. This is how a Jew acts. Not like Shmei who calls philosopher an ignoramus or ARSo who says she’s a shiksa for learning Gemara. (Of course Benedict ARSo now condones idolatry because he believes in anything and anyone who’s against me) All the Rabbis with whom I associate act like this. Their constant encouragement helped me advance. Now let’s consider Shmei. He’s a member of the Chabavich sect. They consider themselves the kings of Kiruv yet he maligns philosopher because, in his psychotic mind, she misunderstood Pshat in a Rishon. Surely a capital offense. Is this the attitude of a Kiruv worker? That’s a rhetorical question. By definition Chabad doesn’t do Kiruv since they don’t believe in Hashem. They try to put Tefilin on male Mechallels and give Shabbos candles to female Mechallels all the while hoping to indoctrinate them into the cult.
To philosopher
You made a very important point about Tanach being written ambiguously and I’d like to expand on it. The Gemara in BK says that man is a searcher. The Diyuk is that he isn’t necessarily a finder. Hashem wants us to keep looking. When the Midrash tells us that Yisro studied every form of AZ it was meant as an encomium. He never stopped looking. Let’s contrast that with Chabad. The Gemara in Cheilek 111a says that events at the final redemption will mirror what occurred at Yetzias Mitzrayim. This is anathema for Chabad because the Rebbe rejected this Gemara. I once heard a Lubavicher say over the Gemara. First he said the accepted Pshat then he added, “We know that this Pshat is wrong because there’s a Rashi in Devarim which says that Hashem will take each Jew out of Golus.” So here’s the point. The Rashi in question says Hashem will take the Jews out one by one., but it doesn’t say everyone. Now if Chabad said that it’s possible to learn this Pshat, I could hear it, but that’s not what they say. What they say is that the Rebbe ‘s Kefirah is the only Pshat. You keep on learning. Hashem far prefers your Torah then the garbage from liars like Shmei and close minded jerks like ARSo.
To ARSo
Rabbi Plutchok is about as far from an Apikorus as one could be. I stand by ever thing I said about him. Go visit him. I can’t give you his phone number because I have no Rishus. Instead of calling me name find out the truth, but you never will because it will make you rethink your position. Btw thanks for lauding my joke. It was pretty good. Maybe there’s hope for you
To ARSo
Hey bigmouth. If you question that I’m telling the truth go to the Five Towns and look up Rabbi Plutchok. Ask him his opinion of Chabad. Then tell him you can prove from a Siyum in the Rif that Yaakov Avinu is still alive. He’ll fit you for a straight jacket.
To philosopher
I would add that Benedict ARSo should also be excluded from the Bes Medrash. Look at his quote, “Perhaps this is the reason that Chazal said that Gemoro should be restricted to men and not women.” If you say it’s restricted to men don’t I know that women are excluded? So we add idiot to your resume. Or maybe you should exclude Lubavitchers because liars and idolaters have no share in Hashem’s Torah
To philosopher
Mark Twain wrote, “When you keep your mouth shut I only think you’re stupid, but when you open it, you remove all doubt.” I can’t believe that Benedict ARSo is now playing the worthless women card. Elke Bentley just finished Shas. She started at 16 finished at 18..She also attends Harvard. The problem with ARSo is that he’s so angry it’s made him a raving lunatic. Don’t you think it’s time he was checkmated?
To ARSo
You’re so deranged that you’re making insane accusations. I never said you’re Chabad. Rabbi Dovic Hollander, you probably heard of him, told me the following, “Don’t try to understand a Tasha, because you aren’t a Rasha.” If you gained some composure you’d realize how close I am to so many great Rabbis. There are two reasons. First we show each other the utmost respect . They know I’m a Johnny Come Lately in Torah but my writing skills are a match for anyone and they love my weekly Diver Torah. But the second reason is more important. I say what I mean and I don’t change my position unless I’m proven wrong. Shmei paid you a compliment and you did a 180 so that you’re now defending the Christians. Hashem sees everything. But at this point it’s questionable if you still believe in Him. Rabbi Miller said that Emunah means loyalty. Baruch Hashem philosopher and Yankel berel are true to the cause, but you’re a traitor. If you had a brain you’d be very afraid .
Philosopher
You’re doing a great job. When Shmei is reduced to name-calling his end is near. Again make believe he doesn’t exist because in Hashem’s eyes he’s yemach Shmei