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You forgot the most important benefit of Shoprite/Pathmark. For years Pathmark in Monsey used to sell Kosher for Passover products at 50% discount during chol hamoed.
NewsFlash: Many of the writers and editors in “Chareidi Journalism” are “Chareidi Liberal” for the same reason that most journalists in the secular media are liberal.
People that are good at creative and artistic tasks like writing and are ok with getting paid near mininum wage are most often more liberal minded. People that are good at “getting stuff done” and “Making money” are more often more conservative minded.
The same rules that apply in the outside world apply in the frum world as well.
Zushy, Avira D’Ara, EJM and the other posters above are all expressing an opinion of one Daas Yochid, a Hungarian Rav who went against the entire rabbinic establishment, and spent decades attacking the Gadol Hador Rav Moshe Feinstein. His closest students became the Neturei Karta who kiss and hug with Arafat and are best friends with Hezbollah and Iran.
This daas Yochid was a tremendous baal chesed, a tremendous talmid chacham, but he was wrong in his vicious attacks against the Jews that were coming back and rebuilding eretz yisrael.
R Chaim Kanievsky ztl had no ideological problem with living in and growing yishuvim over the green line. He differed very much from Rav Shach ztl. He encouraged frum Jews to make aiiyah and to live all over EY- not just within the green line. When asked about territorial concessions to arabs, his reply was, “they should make concessions.”.
Rav Chaim was very different from Rav Shach. It makes perfect sense why they named the yishuv after him.If you really believe that a love for EY, and wanting to build it up is contradictory to chareidi hashkafa,
http://www.qdushat-zion.022. co.il/BRPortal/br/P100.jsp
You will see that the original Torah true hashkafa has always been Hibas Ha’aretz. At he same time its true that since the time of the Meraglim there have always been a lot of people that lacked Hibas Haaretz, and lacked a basic appreciation for the great gift Hashem gave us, They prefer to be holy and wait for moshaich, as they build up their mansions and real estate portfolios in he five towns.
The key to shmiras einayim starts in your mind. If you guard your eyes, but allow your mind to be a hefker, then you are bound to stumble.
You can not dwell on inappropriate thoughts- and if they come up, just ignore, and don’t allow yourself to indulge in letting them fester in your mind. Dont allow inappropriate thoughts to linger. Each time they arise, ignore them, tell yourself that you have to ignore them, and move on.
Additionally:
1) Take your glasses off when you walk outside
2) Learns a few minutes of halachos of shmiras einayim daily- there are a few good books- check local book jewish book store.
3) Install a white filter like yeshiva-net at home.
4) Get an old fashioned cell phone. Have a computer at work and white filter-yeshiva net at home. For calls use an old fashioned cell phone- not a smart phone.
5) Keep Busy- Try to have a morning and night seder- work out if need be. Downtime is the worst thing for shmiras einayim and kedushah.
6) Mechazeik others, that will make you stronger- since nobody likes feeling like a hypocrite.
I grew up non-observant, while simultanesouly attending MO day school through high school, and eventually ended up “american haredi,” started off learning in kollel and then went to work. I asked myself the same exact question that the original poster brought up—-
“What is the difference between a working Haredi and a working MO- both spend 90% of their waking hours at work, learn a little and go to shul. So whats the difference????
Great Question!
I will tell you the difference.
Out of my class of about 150 in my MO high school, about 20-30 are still “shomer shabbos and shomer kashrus”. How many of them learn torah on a daily basis- maybe 15. Out of 150.
Do Haredi schools have kids going off the derech, sure, a large amount, but nothing close to what is happening at MO schools.
In short, the difference between the MO guy who works and goes to shul is a success story, he is among the top 10% that made it out of the system alive. Having made it out of the system, you are right, there is not SO much which differentiates him from Haredi working.
What a wide spectrum of views. Zionist, anti-zionist, and everything in between. However despite all of our differences, cant we appreciate what we DO have in common. We are all a bunch of batlanim that sit on internet chat rooms instead of spending our time living up to the ideals that we purport to be advocating.
Instead of bashing each other, akuperman and kjchusid- spend some time learning a little torah. And to you armchair zionists, why dont you make aliyah, and help build up the country instead of waisting your time fighting satmar tuna baygels on-line.
costco-
In the sausage aisle.
1/4 clove of peeled garlic
half a lemon; squeezed
tablespoon of salt
1 standard size pack of dry chickpeas
black pepper- a couple pinches
couple pinches of cumin
olive oil- (add based on desired thickness)
mix
You cant ask a kasha on a maisah.
Check out the Kaver of Shem and Ever in Tsfas.
Take a dunk in the mikvah of Avraham Aveenu in Hebron and Daven neitz by maaras hamachpela.
Check out the Shul/Mosque by the Kever of Shmuel Hanavi outside of Ramot in Jerusalem.
Take a hike through Lifta behind the central bus station in Jerusalem and take a swim in the natural mikvah.
For sure daven kabbalas shabbis by the kotel, go to a few tisches that night like Belz, Dushinsky.
For a beautiful view, I might check out Mitzpe Ramon, although there is not much else there and it is a long drive.
I dont really hear the kasha….. Obviously yes….
I dont chap… I am from NY. Here even the most frum chareidim vote in elections for goyim that support toeivah lifestyles, abortions, and other issues that are very anti-Jewish, and justify it to themselves since the liberal politicians support food stamps and other government programs for the needy.
In Eretz Yisrael, the government provides money directly to yeshivas, something unheard of in America, and yet many still refuse to vote.
The same types of people who live in america should also not vote, so as not to show support to a anti-Jewish, anti-Torah and unethical liberal democratic politicians, yet they do.
Vus epes?
Any advice for Meshuluchim going on vacation?
Most belated response to a post. I am baffled when I see someone make a response two minutes ago to something that was last responded to years ago.
He lived in Russia, Israel and Monsey NY. When he was in Israel he was a chavrusa of Rabbi Yitzhak Zilber, the famous Gadol of all Russian Baal Teshuva Jewry. Together they had a seder in the middle of the night for a ew hours.
A bar mitzvah is a religious ceremony that young jewish men spend years in preparation for…to think that a dog is worthy of such a ceremony is just…insulting
There is a great yeshiva in Monsey, NY for Israeli Baalei Teshuva called Ohr Yisrael. It is litvish oriented. There are also Yekkei shuls in monsey as well.