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March 14, 2013 2:46 pm at 2:46 pm in reply to: Nurse Refused To Initiate CPR, What Is Your Opinion? #938800ubiquitinParticipant
I think I may be missing something. My understanding is she/ the family were told of this policy at the nursing home when they joined. By joining she in effect agreed to a DNR
Are those who think somebody was wrong (Daniella seems to feel “everyone” was wrong) opposed to the idea of DNR? This is an astounding chiddush! I have never ancountred anyody in real life who is opposed to the idea of DNR in every case. She asked for it (By joining this home) and got it. What is the controversy?
ubiquitinParticipantIt is a great way to show how frum you are
ubiquitinParticipantmishpachasu, you can add that as another advantage to the internet, that now if you want to be considred smart no longer can you just go through kitzur like the layman and add something on top. The bar is raised that much higher for all since the layman has acess to much more information.
thegra, they undoubtedly would have published more, driven by the haarabtzos torah and zechusim at their fingertips
ubiquitinParticipanttruthsharer, you should never “Despise” divrei Torah, no matter when.
ubiquitinParticipantIts a more Democratic way for the govt to be forced to follow the will of the people. The Prime minister cant just do what he or even his party wants for the duration of his term he need support of opposing parties and thus needs to grant some of their desires as well.
The US on the other hand, essentially elects a dictator for 4 years (consider the fact that no President was ever removed from office during his term no matter how low their approval ratings may have been). The President can pretty much do as he pleases (to a certain extent) throughout his 4 years no matter how unpopular they may be. Think About Obama’s possible kill list or Bush maintaining the IRaq war when it was wildly unpopular. In most democratic countries includig Israel Bush’s govt would’ve collapsed once the war was unpopular.
March 10, 2013 1:14 am at 1:14 am in reply to: Nurse Refused To Initiate CPR, What Is Your Opinion? #938745ubiquitinParticipantWhen R’ Yochanon told a woman to stop going to shul so that she can die did he kill her r”l?
When R’ chanina ben Taradyon allowed the executioner to remove the wet pieces of wool that were keeping him alive longer was he advocating murder R”L?
When the Gemara says and Shulchan aruch codifies that when a goses is dying and a wood cutter is keeping him alive we can stop the wood cutter so as to allow the goses to die is he advocating murder r”l?
Withholding CPR is even a step removed from that(since there is no kum veaseh and no hinderence is being removed it is only POSSIBLE aid that is being withheld), calling it murder is am haaratzos. Dpending on the circumsatnces withholding CPR may be the correct thing to do
March 8, 2013 8:39 pm at 8:39 pm in reply to: Nurse Refused To Initiate CPR, What Is Your Opinion? #938733ubiquitinParticipantGamnanit, depends on the state of health in my relative, and the cause of cardiac arrest. In most scenarios in 80 year olds no I absolutely would not want CPR done.
March 8, 2013 7:07 pm at 7:07 pm in reply to: Nurse Refused To Initiate CPR, What Is Your Opinion? #938727ubiquitinParticipantCPR is no guarantee. Most people are not revived by CPR and it is painful.
A few posters seem to have missed this point. Statistics especially in the elderly are not good.
I have no idea whether CPR would have been appropriate in this case. But to think that CPR is just flicking a switch that automatically brings back a dead/dying person is wrong.
ubiquitinParticipantSometimes. Sometimes. No. No. No.
ubiquitinParticipantDY, None of those expressions are said regarding chametz being batel before pesach
ubiquitinParticipantNo, silly question
ubiquitinParticipantYou are mistaken
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ubiquitinParticipantCollege.
ubiquitinParticipantToi, wrong
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Most Frum Jews eat one of these every single shabbos
ubiquitinParticipantmultifactorial, strong genetic component
ubiquitinParticipantMustard, Dijon.
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