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  • in reply to: Amazing shidduch story!! #719853
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    A great Bachur was redt to my oldest. We met him and he made a very good impression, and he came up fro a sit in with my daughter.

    As he came up the stairs i noticed that he had a hunchback. When he left we asked my daughter for her impression, which was very favorable. But she saw what I and her mother saw. We called the Shadchan who was shocked. “I know him very well. “I know him very well & have no idea what you are talking about.” So he thought some lame excuse for our rejection. So happened I bumped into the young man the next day and his back was as straight as a broomstick. We could not turn the clock back, A few days later Shadchan calls back “I have another great Bachur, I’ll be open with you I don’t want any surprises. Try to see him under cover he has a slight blemish on his face”. So Motzei Shabbos I went to the bachur’s Rebbe’s Tish, managed to track him down and examined him from all angles & saw nothing. We met him my daughter met him an unheard of 4 times and Mazel Tov. A year after their Chasuna he tells his wife that he was born with a cleft lip which required surgery.

    in reply to: The clipboard… Short & sweet #950088
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    It is forbidden for a man to have his hair cut by a woman, and for a woman to have her hair cut by a man.

    A woman may sing to herself, and a preschool teacher may sing to the children under her care, even if there is a non-Jewish man in the vicinity who will hear her singing.

    http://www.dailyhalacha.com/Display.asp?ClipID=2028

    in reply to: Ad Meah V'esrim…? #720608
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    Tonight is the wedding of a great grandchild.(all grandchildren are married)

    Last night my Mother reported that she was not feeling the greatest all day, and added One thing I ask Ribono Shel Olam

    “not for the next few days” do not disturb the Simcha.

    Mother Shtichya is far from a burden. My widower brother eats supper (her cooking) with her every night. There is a great grandchild sleeping with her every night (in rotation) & until recently she changed the linen herself.

    She is afraid of becoming a burden

    in reply to: DATE NIGHT #720179
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    Just wait until “the empty nest”

    No going out can compare with a Shabbos Seudah (or even an ordinary week day supper) at home with just the two of us. Not that we are not thrilled to have an Einikel (especially the almost adults) join us

    in reply to: Ad Meah V'esrim…? #720606
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    Oomis suggested “I always wish Ad Meah V’esrim in good Gezunt”

    DO YOU SPEAK FROM EXPERIENCE?

    My 97 year old mother who has all her mental facilities plus B”H, but suffers the usual age related frailties such as hypertension etc,

    is so afraid of being a burden that at times she asks Hashem for the unspeakable

    in reply to: Ad Meah V'esrim…? #720587
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    A Nadvoner Einikel who has a Shtienel near me alway says Biz de 160. I never asked him where it comes from

    in reply to: The clipboard… Short & sweet #950079
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    Rabbi Wolfe of Zbarazh was a Chasidic master known for his eagerness to defend the poor and the victimized.

    One day, he heard unpleasant sounds coming from the kitchen. Putting aside the book he was studying, he went to find out what was happening there. His wife was having a disagreement with the maid. “She broke an expensive dish,” the annoyed Rebbetzin explained to him.

    “It was an accident,” cried the maid.

    “No, she did it on purpose, to annoy me, and I’m going to deduct it from her wages,” countered the Rebbetzin.

    “Then I shall go to the rabbinic court,” said the maid.

    “Go ahead, and I’ll come too!” said the Rebbetzin.

    “And me too,” said her husband.

    “You? Why are you coming? I don’t need you there.I can present my case myself”

    “She does,” said Rabbi Wolfe, “you are the wife of a Rebbe; she is only a poor maid. She needs me to defend her.”

    Chabad.org

    in reply to: Leftover chulent? #915887
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    We are the BP grandparents of an out of town 19 year old who goes to school here in BP. The highlights of Sun & Mon night supper & midnight snack is Bubeh’s Chulent

    in reply to: Most Informed in the Coffee Room #719033
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    Npbody noticed? we have a wannabe!! Or is it 3 ?

    in reply to: Montreal Canada #717405
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    Here is another resource The Vaad Hair list by neighborhood.

    http://www.mk.ca/shuls.html

    in reply to: Montreal Canada #717404
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    Go to http://www.godaven.com/searchzip.asp

    If you know the Postal code for your hotel enter that

    otherwise H2V will give you the whole city

    They have links to google maps so you get an

    idea how close/far the shuls are

    Here is another resource http://www.kosherdelight.com/CanadaQuebecOrthodoxSynagogues.shtml

    try to contact the Shuls affiliated with Orgs you are familiar

    with IE Chabad has a few shuls with contact info

    There is at least one Young Israel (and quite a few Shtiblach)

    in reply to: Montreal Canada #717399
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    The “Askenazi” is not really exclusively Ashkaenazi there are 2 Sfardi Rabanim on their Beth Din

    Chavrei HaBeth Din of the ??? ???? MK Jewish Community Council of Montreal (JCCM) http://www.mk.ca/

    Av Beth Din: Rabbi Yonasan Binyomin Weiss (A Talmid of Klausenburger Rav ZT’L)

    Dayan Dovid Refoel Banon (Dayan of the Lubavitch & Kehila & Sepharadi)

    Dayan Berl Bell (Dayan of Kehilas Lubavitch)

    Dayan Ephraim Chaim Cremisi

    Dayan Hershel Kaufman

    Dayan Wolfe Ber Lerner (Belzer Dayan)

    Dayan Aryeh Posen

    Dayan Yoel Chonon Wenger (r’m in Yeshiva Gedola of Montreal, rov of Eitz Chaim)

    The official standards of the MK are approxiamtely those of the OU.

    There is a seperate ????? headed by Belzer Dayan & ? which is “sort of” part of MK

    Their logo ?

    in reply to: My new "shtick" that Im trying to get others into… #716917
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    WIY !!!!

    Get busy writing another appology. Perhaps there is no need since

    Eclipse stopped posting & possibly visiting.

    I have a strange feeling I will be an Elter Elter zaideh before

    …. if this the way you are in the real world

    in reply to: This thread is for WolfishMusings (specifically) #716342
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    WIY

    Why don’t you take Shloimies Shver’s advice? You had to be ???? so you started a thread and voila you had more gems to contend with

    in reply to: Heter In My Back Pocket #715075
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    WIY You clicked and pasted a Posuk eith the Shem intact see the below quotes from

    our favorite Revach.net

    Halacha – printing the shem havayah

    Submitted by anonymous Answered by Rav Peretz Moncharsh

    Question: In your recent article on “kiruv failures” you printed a posuk and spelled out the shem havayah. Is it allowed to spell out the tetragramaton name of Hashem if it’s not in a sefer? And is it allowed for us to erase the name when we close the page? I posted this question on your contact form but have not received a response.

    Answer: It is permitted ??????? to write Hashem’s name for Divrei Torah under circumstances where it is not likely to be disgraced. It is a machlokes whether the page may be erased, and in my opinion it is generally accepted to be permitted because one is not erasing physical words, just interrupting the flow of electrons and preventing the words from being formed in the future. However, since some Poskim are machmir regarding erasing Hashem’s name on a computer screen and it is easily avoidable by using a kinuyi, it would be preferable to be machmir in the future. Thank you for bringing this to our attention.

    posted:2010-08-09 14:46:13

    Halacha – writing out shem shmayim

    Submitted by anonymous Answered by Rav Peretz Moncharsh

    Question: please see http://revach.net/taryag-mitzvos/mitzva-opportunity/Parshas-Re039eh-Netziv-Feeling-Your-Own-Pain/4693 where the editor clicked & pasted a ???? with the shem havayeh Is this??????? ??????

    Answer: It is permitted ??????? to write Hashem’s name for Divrei Torah under circumstances where it is not likely to be disgraced. However, since some Poskim are machmir regarding erasing Hashem’s name on a computer screen and it is easily avoidable by using a kinuyi, it would be preferable to be machmir in the future. Thank you for bringing this to our attention.

    posted:2010-08-06 02:05:31

    in reply to: Very Interesting! The Reason Why We Eat Jelly Donuts On Chanukah #990792
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    I asked Horav Peretz Moncharsh of Revach.net

    Why didn’t you bring the Eitzah of the Chayeh Adam Klal 43:9 (quoted in Biur Hahalcha) to be Mekaven at Hamotzee for these mezonos deserts?

    Horav Peretz Moncharsh’s Answer:

    A good point. However the logic of the Chaye Adam is that explicit intention on the donut is equivalent to saying hamotzi directly on the donut. This works because if one said hamotzi on something that is mezonos he is yotzei b’dieved. I prefer to suggest a solution that works l’chatchila when available.

    I am impressed

    This answer can also be viewed at:

    http://revach.net/ask/article.php?id=1987

    in reply to: "Happy" Chanuka Jewish #715194
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    yitayningwut

    ???? ??? for the Rema. But, why didnt you specify Darkei Moshe?

    Your quote from Josephu via Wikipedia is not convincing at all.

    That work is known to be ???? ?? ??? ????

    in reply to: "Happy" Chanuka Jewish #715187
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    I did a google search on “Festival of lights” and guess what the first item was a Wiki piece on a hindu celabration

    in reply to: Computers and Yiddishkeit #714681
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    Not too bad. But you forgot who were those who initiated the wording on the currency. Yes everything has an ????? . There is a known ???, ?? ????? ????? As well as meaning as they were it is not a Mekor Kadosh. You want your Emuna to be influenced by them?

    in reply to: What is the inyan of a mitzva tanz? #714662
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    Not twisted at all. Vey much on target

    in reply to: Megila Cases & Kosos L'Kidush ????? ????? #714106
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    ???? ??? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? (??? ? ??? ?? ??? ??) ??”?, ???? ??? ??? ??? ???? ????? ?????. ??? ????? ???? ?????? ?????? ??-???? ??????. ???? ?? ??? ?? ??? ????, ??? ?? ??. ??? ??? ?? ????? ??? ???, ???? ?? ???? ???????, ??”?

    A friend told me that he saw ???”? ? ????? ??????? ????”? of Golders Green make Kidush on a bottle because he did not want use a disposable.

    He agreed with Rav Neuwirth????”? on one point and not on the other.

    in reply to: Very Interesting! The Reason Why We Eat Jelly Donuts On Chanukah #990787
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    In Skver on the 5th night (which has special Kabbalistic significance) Kasha latkes fried in olive oil is served at the Rebbe’s tish. The joke circulating is that it is reminiscent of Nes Chanuka. You eat one & it burns 8 days

    in reply to: Very Interesting! The Reason Why We Eat Jelly Donuts On Chanukah #990786
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    WIY

    You caught me off guard with a ‘????? ???’???

    I wrote

    1) Rav Bodner does not say doughnuts are not considered pas haba bkisnin he says that a yoreh shomayim who wants to eat a shiur seuda of these types of products should eat them during the course of a bread meal.

    Popa you are right that 2) normative Halacha is ?????= ?????

    It is only a recommendation.

    I must have been sleeping

    ???? ???

    in reply to: Very Interesting! The Reason Why We Eat Jelly Donuts On Chanukah #990765
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    not2bright and WIY

    Rav Bodner does not say doughnuts are not considered pas haba bkisnin he says that a yoreh shomayim who wants to eat a shiur seuda of these types of products should eat them during the course of a bread meal.

    Popa you are right that normative Halacha is ?????= ?????

    It is only a recommendation.

    I saw a contemprary Sefer ???? ?????? who brings a Minhag not to make a Beracha on Hamentashen on purim and doughnuts on Chanukah during the course of a Seuda, as they are ????? ????? ???? ?????? because of the Minhag, analogous to apple in honey Rosh Hashana night according to the ???? ????”s Kushya on the Magen Avraham

    in reply to: Very Interesting! The Reason Why We Eat Jelly Donuts On Chanukah #990764
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    Re the Quote by from ????”? ???????? re making a hefsek between cake earen after Kidush and the Seuda. Are you sure it is because of ???? ??”? ? Perhaps because of Beracha Achrona. See Shulchan Aruch 174:7 ??? ?????? ???? ?? ???? ??????? ??? ??????? ??? ???? ????? ??? ??? ????? ???? ??? ??? ??? ?????? ?????? ?? ???? ??? ???? ????? ????? ?????? ????? ?? ??? ????? ???? ??????

    See http://www.yeshiva.org.il/midrash/shiur.asp?id=9261for an interesting discussion (without mekoros)

    Almost all contemporary ?????? quote Poskim not to be ???? ????? on doughnuts but eat them ???? ??????

    See http://tinyurl.com/Rav-Bodner-on-Doughnuts , http://www.kof-k.org/dvar%20torah/Minhagei%20Chanukah%20(07).pdf , and ???? ???? Chart 21 in the English version. See http://www.dailyhalacha.com/Display.asp?PageIndex=94&ClipID=1560 where Rabbi Eli Mansuor quotes Chahcham Ovadia Yosef that one does not need concern himself about ???? ????? . But they all refer to doughnuts made from dough ??????? ??? not batter ?????? ???. (See recipes section of the CR & you will find recipes for both dough & batter) There is an apocryphal story of a rumor circulating of a machlokes between two poski re potato kugel. One said ???? the other ?????. On investigation it was learned that it was a machlokes between the Rebetzins. One used grated potatoes the other pureed potatoes

    See Biur Halacha 168:14 piece beginning ?????? ???? at the end where he Brings the ??? ???

    ???”? ???? ?? ????? ???? ???? ?????? ????? ??????? ????? ?? ?????? ????? ?????? ??? ??? ??? ??? ?”? ?

    Below is a follow up question to Moncharch on Revach.net My question is, does this only apply to what is known as a jelly donut in the USA or to any donut in the USA and this Shaila is not just a jelly donut shaila? Thanks!

    Answer:

    The same issue applies to any fried donut and is not exclusive to the jelly filled ones. The primary issue is the proper beracha on fried or boiled dough products.

    Actually Rav Bentzion Abba Shaul proposed that jelly donuts should be less problematic because they are filled and might qualify as pas haba’ah b’kisnin, which is mezonos up until a certain quantity. Even though the donuts are only filled after the frying process, but they are intended to be filled from the beginning. He does not pasken this way l’maaseh, but proposes it as in interesting idea.

    posted:2010-11-27 22:13:40

    in reply to: Heter In My Back Pocket #715063
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    BP Totty & WIY

    ??? ??? ???? ?? ???: ????? ??? ????, ??? ??????? ??????? ????? ???? ???, ????? ?????? ?? ?? ?? ????? ???? ??? ?? ?????? ?????? ?? ?? ??, ?????; “??? ????? ?????????”, ?? ???? ?????????, ??? ??????????.

    in reply to: What is the inyan of a mitzva tanz? #714641
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    Poppa What happened to you? You mellowed so!!

    in reply to: Thanksgiving: Church Holiday #1146291
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    I have proof that thanksgiving is not a religious holiday

    ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

    A major Chasidish B”HM scheduled a special shiur for this afternoon. Had it been a religious holiday wouldn’t it have the same status as ???? ??? No need to comment. I know that this is totally off the wall, which is not so uncommon in the CR.

    in reply to: Thanksgiving: Church Holiday #1146290
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    How Do We Know Turkey Is Kosher? – Was Columbus The First Jew in America?

    The Shulchan Aruch (YD 82:3) gives simanim of a kosher bird, however the Rema argues and says that without a mesora we cannot eat any birds even if it has simanim. The question that many poskim discuss is how can we eat Turkey, which is an American bird that was transported back to Europe after the discovery of America, and cannot possibly have any mesora.

    The Darkei Teshuva (YD 82:26) considers a number of explanations from various poskim. Regarding the fact that there was a mesora in India for Turkey, he says that the Rashba holds that one country cannot rely on another country’s mesora. Another explanation that he brings from the Meishiv Davar is that the Rema banned any bird without a mesora only if it is newly discovered. Since Turkey had been eaten for many years before the question came up, we cannot question our predecessors logic in permitting it, even if they did not have a mesora, and we cannot assur it and spread a bad name on them.

    He also brings the Arugas HaBosem that says that the Rema only forbid birds whose simanim are not 100% guaranteed, but since we have watched Turkeys now for hundred of years and they without a doubt possess all the simanim without exception, we can eat it without a mesora.

    The Sichas Chulin in an admittedly wild theory says that during the time of the exile of the Aseres HaShevatim, some of them ended up in America. They had a Mesora on Turkey and passed it on to the exiles of the Spanish inquisition, who passed it back to Europe.

    Important Note: We try to convey the Tshuva to the best of our ability. We admit that our understanding may not be accurate. Please also understand that this Tshuva may not be the final word on this topic. One should consult a Rav before drawing any conclusions. http://revach.net/article.php?id=1398

    in reply to: Some important Halachos of Tefillah and pronunciation #1145693
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    The Tachnun Issue: 1) A shul is NOT allowed to skip tachnun when there is a bris earlier that day in the same shul (Landuas, Shomer Shabbos…) just because that minyan skipped. These halachos are m’furash in the Mishna B’rura!

    Can you please tell me the ???? ??? ? I looked and could find only about earlier Minyonim which is mutar. Look in ???? ?????? ??’? ??? ?”? and footnotes 99-101 where he brings quite a few Poskim including the ???? ????,??? ?????? and Satmar Rav who are Matir.

    I believe that Hashem needs ? our tachnunim, after all we can only gain instead of complain!

    Hashem wants, we need

    in reply to: Asara B'Teves on a Friday?! #993846
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    Thanks How about the one before that one. The event I am trying to date was more than 17 years ago

    Tit for tat if you ever need to convert dates

    http://www.chabad.org/calendar/default-response_cdo/civil_month/1/civil_day//civil_year//cType/2/jewish_month/10/jewish_day/10/jewish_year/5754/submit1/GO%C2%A0%C2%BB

    in reply to: Heter In My Back Pocket #715050
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    40+ years ago my wife worked for a Yekkeh a real Mesiras Nefesh Yid for his Mesoreh. As part of his Mesiras Nefesh he didn’t wear a Yarmulkeh @ work on 47th St. when all his associates, employees,etc. did.

    His onesh/schar? At least one of his children wears a Bekishe. His grandchildren.. ??? I lost contact ages ago

    in reply to: Asara B'Teves on a Friday?! #993842
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    Does anyone know which years this was 2 & 3 times back.

    An event which I am trying to date happened that day.

    in reply to: Kosher Cell Phone Filters #766030
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    Yes there is one company that advertises Service for Blackberry devices. I tried posting it but it did not go through.

    Check page 160 of the Consumer Advisors.

    in reply to: Some important Halachos of Tefillah and pronunciation #1145686
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    I presented as an ” an interesting theory”. Nevertheless I don’t see the “proof” from Yiddish. Yiddish is a direct derivative of the vernacular

    in reply to: Kosher Cell Phone Filters #766026
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    If you are referring to Blackberry type devices. I tried posting a link but was blocked. I know of one company that provides filtering for Blackberries

    in reply to: Some important Halachos of Tefillah and pronunciation #1145683
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    I remember reading an interesting theory presented by Reb Uriel Zimmer (anybody else remember this linguist/talmid chacham who was a Chabadnik & Kanai?) The various regional pronunciations are somehow linked to the ancient variations we find in T’Nach (Bnei Efraim couldn’t say Shiboles)

    in reply to: Some important Halachos of Tefillah and pronunciation #1145671
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    All I meant was to compliment you as I quoted ???? ????

    You are right new threads seem to get more attention.

    The real reason I am posting is to bump the thread up

    in reply to: Some important Halachos of Tefillah and pronunciation #1145667
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    ???? ????, ??????

    wellmeaning bzbody Member WIY seeing the flak that came your way for your precentage figures in the title of this thread

    I HAVE A SUGGESTION Why not use http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/mistakes-in-halacha for your future ????? ????? & ????? ????? postings

    WIY Member Wellmeaning. I don’t mind the flak. I think they are right, I shouldn’t have used those numbers even though the numbers are high. I have to choose my words more wisely next time.

    in reply to: Chessed Volunteer? #706385
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    In Partners in Torah, they pair you up with someone of similar educational background/job type etc.. and you learn with them once a week

    Oorah has a similar project

    If you are good at writing [email protected] and http://www.aleph-institute.org/programs/pen-pal-programs.html

    have pen pal programs for inmates.

    I was in such a realtionship for close to a year. It was very rewarding but had to drop it because of my limitations.

    On the subject Shalom Mordechai ben Rivka’s Address is

    Sholom Rubashkin 10755-029

    FCI Otisville

    Federal Correction Inst.

    P.O. Box 1000

    Otisville, NY 10963.

    According to his family meaningful mail means a lot to him.

    in reply to: Hachnosas Orchim even if you …. #703608
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    When I started this thread I should have completed the sentence.

    Even if you do not have the room, means, temperament, social skills, the ???? ???? does not have time and Kochos etc.

    What I have suggested does not entail a significant expense of funds or money. You can squeeze in a load between posts to the CR or tasks in your home based business.

    Of course non BP & environs residents will have to find (or found) their own local versions.

    in reply to: Hagbah (and Gelilla) #1170667
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    Real brisker

    U gave me a taste of my own medicine

    that was really brisk (in english) doubt “our” comments

    would qualify as brisker ???? ?????

    mamashtakah Yes it is a very common occurence in ??% of shuls

    in reply to: Hachnosas Orchim even if you …. #703606
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    ^^^^bump UP^^^^^

    in reply to: Hagbah (and Gelilla) #1170663
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    Where do you daven? Senior citizens home?

    in reply to: Mistakes that people make in Halacha #703518
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    Checking up on your RAV? Why don’t you ask him directly for Mekoros?

    Yes That is the buzz, Even though I haven’t yet heard from a ???? ????? I have seen a sign to that effect at 16th Ave housewares, by whose authority I don’t know. I tried to do a search to see if I can find mekoros all I found was http://www.ohryosef.org/tevillas/tks001.htm with no mekoros I have no idea who this kollel is.

    Neither the OU oukosher.org/index.php/common/article/a_tevilas_keilim_handbook/ or StarK http://www.star-k.org/cons-appr-tvilaskelim.htm

    mention it. The email addresses are [email protected] [email protected]

    An even better idea is try to find a copy of ????? ???? ??????

    in reply to: Mistakes that people make in Halacha #703516
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    Clarification

    how do we know when the child gets home that it was properly Toveled

    in reply to: Mistakes that people make in Halacha #703515
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    Something you should ask your Rav:

    When we send a child to shop for eating utensils how do we know that it was properly Toveled since Halchacilly a pre bar/bas mitzvah is not credible

    ?”? ??”? ??’ ?? ??”? ??? ??????? ??? ?? ????? ????. ??? ??? ?? ???? ???? ????, ??? ?????

    ??”? ???? ?? ??? ????? ???? ?????? ?? ????? ????.

    Anyone may tovel keilim, including a small child or a gentile, however, a Jewish adult must be present to verify that it took place. The recitation of a brocha can only be done if a Jew does the immersion. Therefore, if many utensils are to be immersed with the help of a child or a gentile, the owner should first immerse a few vessels with a brocha and then the child/gentile can take over By Rabbi Moshe Heinemann http://www.star-k.org/cons-appr-tvilaskelim.htm

    in reply to: Hasgochos on brocha? #703381
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    THE HAKHEL COMMUNITY AWARENESS BULLETIN

    Reviewed by HaRav Yisroel Belsky, Shlita Volume III, Number 3

    Sivan 5763

    The purpose of this Bulletin is to alert the public regarding important issues, so that the informed

    g. Wraps Over the course of the last year or so, a new food item has become popularized in

    and then baking it. Typically, the Wrap is then filled with food, much like a pita. The question that arises is what is the brocha rishona, and by extension what is the brocha achrona on a Wrap? Is the brocha an

    absolute borei minei mezonos (akin to a very thin liquid batter dough – see Mishne Berurah, Orach Chayim

    168, seif katan 38), or is the Wrap to be treated like Pas HaBa’ah B’Kisnin (akin to the flat bread referred to

    in Shulchan Aruch, Orach Chayim 168:7) and would accordingly follows those rules? Or, notwithstanding

    that it does not have the typical form or shape of bread, is the brocha always a Hamotzi? In Eretz Yisroel,

    where Wraps have not yet been popularized, many Poskim have never seen or heard of a Wrap. Rabbi

    Moshe Shternbuch, Shlita, however, who was shown a Wrap, poskened that it should be treated like Pas

    HaBa’ah B’Kisnin. Rabbi Yisroel Belsky, Shlita, poskens that the brocha is always Hamotzi, because it is

    baked in the same manner as bread, tastes and feels like bread, is made of a heavy, bread-like dough and

    serves to fill and satisfy, just as bread does . A person is advised to consult his Rav before partaking of a

    Wrap.

    in reply to: Some basic Halacha that is ignored in 100% of shuls by 99% of the Kahal #708693
    BP Zaideh
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    WIY

    seeing the flak that came your way for your precentage figures in the title of this thread

    I HAVE A SUGGESTION Why not use http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/mistakes-in-halacha for your future ????? ????? & ????? ?????

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    in reply to: Hagbah (and Gelilla) #1170654
    BP Zaideh
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    A suggetion to those Minayanim with a considerable Very Junior poulation have a stool handy for the ???? ?????

    and certainly dont bend the Sefer down for children to kiss the it. it is wonderful to teach children love for the Torah, but they must rise to the Torah, the Torah should not come down to them. this is a lesson for the adults who are watching as well.

    must be the reason I stubled on to this thread

    It is something I have been doing for the longest time.

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