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I don’t think this is about members parking in front of shuls. Memebrs respond from shul and their vehicles and equipment are needed closeby.
This is about non-memebers who violate the law and put the public in danger by driving reclessley, with unauthorized L&S, and block pumps.
This issue is compounded by those chayas having VAS plates; the public and Police assume that it is Hatzolah, they get away with their actions, and Hatzolah gets a bad rap due to this incorrect assumption.
You are correct, that these plates are obtained through another volunteer ambulance service by giving out letters for less than forthright reasons as you put it.
I understand that the main culprit is Bed-Stuy Vol Ambulance, and this is “public knowledge” within “the macher, and wanna-be circles” so I don’t think that is really being kept quiet.
If they are licensed as a Vol Amb Svce, they do have the right, technically, to issue letters to their “members”.
I agree that this is scandalous, but I am not sure what can be done besides local Police enforcement by actually following these cars to see where they are going. I have been followed while responding, and I no issue with it. Let PD do it more often so they can see we are legit and at the same time the chayas will hopefully get weeded out.
Perhaps an audit of Bed Stuy by the DOH and DMV might revoke their license, and DMV can recall and not renew all those plates. Not sure however if this is a top agenda for the State.
Not that it is relevant who I am, but I am a Hatzolah member and I will not standby while you attack other members or the organization.
You clearly said that you “were sure” those parking illegally were H-Members. When one says thay are “sure” it means that they have no doubt otherwise. That is what I questioned.
If you are just voicing your opinion, then you ought to learn to be “dan L’kaf zechus”, and you should cosider the ramifications of loshon-hora and motzi-shem-ra on a rabim before posting.
Reading your posts (to others and myself) vs mine, the average person will likely conclude that you are the one that is both defensive and offensive while I am calm. I will not speculate as to what your issues and agenda might be, but I suspect that one exists.
Please don’t expect me to respond to your rants again, I am not looking to get into a match with you.
“To which organization do these drivers belong and why does it not do anything about their law breaking?”
“You really don’t know? I’m sure they are Hatzolah members.”
Really? You know this how? You think or youre sure ?!?
You say youre sure, so I imagine you were there and checked each car and found a valid plaque and DOH sticker.
Ever heard of Dan l’kaf zechus, my friend?
Especially for those who drop whatever were doing when you need us?
Dear “BP Mensch”, my post was clear, but as a response to your question anyway:
If VAS plates do not require the possession of an EMT or EMT-P license, then who gets them? Further, is it not true that some of these plate holders are not emergency responers?
If you can find out how and why Bed-Stuy Volunteer Ambulance who gets literally no emergency calls, yet they have several hundred frum members, who mostly live in other boros, with VAS plates; you might be on your way to solving the problem here. And, Yes, none of these folks are emergency responders as I said. They are rotzchim !!
Your second Question:
See my answer above ! I agree this is a huge problem, but NOT a Hatzolah problem.
Also, you failed to mention how many of those cars had valid, current Hatzolah ID plaques. Id say most did not. If some are legit, I think that most would agree that members in shul do need their vehicles nearby to respond to a call and I defend their actions. Were not talking hydrants here. The problem were discussing here are non-members parking and driving with L&S on like lunatics.
As a Hatzolah member, I would like to address this post with several points:
1. No VAS plate is issued without a letter from the agency that the registrant works for,
2. There ARE, in fact, many unscrupulous agencies in NYC that will issue a letter in exchange for a large (bribe) donation. It goes without saying, that Hatzolah will never do this,
4. ALL Hatzolah vehicles (private and Ambulances) have a NYS DOH inspection sticker in the right of the windshield. These stickers are blue and yellow and are visible at a distance. Absence of this sticker is another indication of an imposter,(look for it)
5. I have personally witnessed, on numerous occasions, vehicles bearing VAS plates being driven recklessly with L&S while there is no call going on. A check into the Hatzolah database always indicated that these are not H members. These individuals are rotzchim and I have no problem calling him a “rodef”. Unfortunately, there is nothing any of us can do besides hope that they get pulled, and a full investigation is launched as to where the plate authorizations came from,
6. Hatzolah has a zero tolerance for members abusing the law thereby putting the organization into jeopardy, the membership knows that we are under the public microscope and held to a higher standard,
7. We are not the Police and there is therefore not much that we can do regarding non-members who drive recklessly and break the law. It disturbs and angers us more than it annoys anyone of you.
In summation, I agree with all that there exists a real problem and being the agencies are abusing the system, there needs to be better oversight by DMV, and enforcement by the local Police.September 6, 2012 2:06 am at 2:06 am in reply to: Need Source for Allowing or Not Allowing Teacher to Confiscate Items #906943
In common law it is called “Larceny”. look it up.September 6, 2012 2:04 am at 2:04 am in reply to: Need Source for Allowing or Not Allowing Teacher to Confiscate Items #906942
“Lo Sigzol” comes to mind.
OSUR! Yiharog V’al Yaavor.
Why would a woman be in front of a man who is not her husband? Women should not be in public at all.
kol kvuda bas melech pnima.
Mr Doe, you seem to know a little too well (as you are very specific) what is “distracting” to you on other women.
If you are able to determine that a skirt is too short/too tight, and also conclude whether the woman is wearing a shaitel or not, you already spent way too much time looking and examining the other woman – and the problem lies in you! To say their mode of dress causes you to look and it is the womans fault, equates to the argument of “The devil made me do it”.
And I say this to all others on here raising this issue.
You ought to pay more attention to your own wife and less to what other peoples wives are wearing.
Ohr chodosh owns bp and the bustercrown owns flatbush. How dare others walk on their streets dressed in a way they dont agree with?
Why is this a “problem” to YOU feel is incumbent upon YOU (and others who love to jump on the tznius bandwagon at every opportunity) to rectify? I don’t know if you are male or female so I can’t speculate as to your motives. Are you a female that feels other women are getting more attention than you? Or, are you a male that feels his wife is not “up to par” in looks and cant control his wandering eyes? Either way, you seem to have a personal issue and want other to conform to you. You will not get women in Flatbush, Manhattan,or Beverly Hills to conform to your standard. If this has become such an issue for you, then move to Ramat Bet Shemesh where these things get enforced. Or, stay home. Then, with this important issue out of the way, you can concentrate on some lesser important issues like; gezeila, sinas chinam, loshon hora, and Shmiras Shabbos just to mention a few.
Or, you can simply control your eyes like every real talmid chochom that walks the street and work on yourself to become a better person.
OP writes: “This problem is equal if not less than the shidduch crises.
What do you think?”
I think if you let them “hang out” it might solve the sidduch “crises”.
It’s poshut. You should poshut take it up with a rov.
I think all of us know that eishes ish is not a “chumra”.
Some of us, though, will get my point.
There are enough “Chumras”, for example:
Eishes Ish, niddah on yom kippur,
that we dont need to add to them.
The only solution – BURKAS !!
That ought to satisfy all the “machmirim” with the ugly wives
Why are we arguing with him? (the Big Rabbi108300)?
I specifically came looking for a heter not a musser schmuez. And, frankly, were not interested in your hashkofos on whats a torah yid. Thank you very much.
Hey, “enlightenedjew” AKA “maskilim”; you picked your name well.
(The maskilim took the whole torah literally)
I WAS OBVIOUSLEY SARCASTIC!
I dont understand the question here.
You hit a child, you get charged and you go to Jail:
1. Assault and Battery
2. Endangering the welfare
3. Child abuse
4. Civil charges against the rebbi and yeshiva
5. Any lawyers or prosecutors here that care to expand this list?
You have frustrations that you need to get out? Go hit your wife instead,or get a punching bag. AND get professional help
Let me add: From rosh chodesh and on, is not so poshut. (Mekor from the gemorrah)
SEE THE “SHEORIM HAMITZUYONIM BIHALOCHO” Hilchos bein hamitzorim, he brings down the chsam sofer,noda biyehuda and others that are of the opinion that only the issur of GILUACH is only “taspores harosh” and not “taspores hazokon”, since the latter is something done on a semi daily basis. He is not so lenient for shevua shecal bo, though. Look it up, and see for yourself, I am not a posek.
NOTHING LIKE SOME GOOD CONTROVERSEY TO BE MIKAREV THE GEULAH. SICKENING!
Forget the presidents, they are nothing more than a bunch of poiers.
The Ribono shel olom is our father. Do you think that your father really cares about your mode of dress when you come speak to him?
Thats how I look at it, and thats how you need to feel.
Yehuda Levin for President !!!