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AJ: Why don’t you first question Yseribus for his sources claiming the opposite. After all, he made his assertion first.
September 16, 2018 7:40 am at 7:40 am in reply to: Driving German cars by ” heimish” people. #1591501JosephParticipantThe style of men shaving off their beards.
JosephParticipantIt must be a slow news day.
September 15, 2018 9:03 pm at 9:03 pm in reply to: Driving German cars by ” heimish” people. #1591333JosephParticipantTakes2: First you abondon German-style beard-shaving and then you can lecture others about German-style boots.
JosephParticipantThe long-standing term to refer to it by most Jews has long been yarmulka. The word kippa is of relatively recent vintage, insofar as its common usage. In Yiddish it is called a kapul.
JosephParticipantParking has been 25 cents for 15 minutes in NYC for the last 30+ years. A little increase isn’t the end of the world.
JosephParticipantReport the meter to 311.
September 14, 2018 9:10 am at 9:10 am in reply to: Driving German cars by ” heimish” people. #1591054JosephParticipant“able to”? Shloime isn’t “able to drive” a Jaguar or Lincoln?
September 14, 2018 7:55 am at 7:55 am in reply to: Driving German cars by ” heimish” people. #1591042JosephParticipantAvi, Horthy refused German demands to deport Hungarian Jews to Aushwitz. Which is why the Germans overthrew him.
In any event, Netanyahu and Israel are great friends with Orban and Hungary.
JosephParticipantSo far I don’t miss having never met anyone on any of the above lists or mentioned personalities, other than the Rabbonim.
JosephParticipantForshayer: What time was it when you davened in the Ribnitzer Rebbe’s minyan? 😉
September 13, 2018 7:17 pm at 7:17 pm in reply to: Driving German cars by ” heimish” people. #1590885JosephParticipantShould we reject the checks the German government sends to Holocaust survivors?
JosephParticipantRav Avigdor Miller on Voting for Liberals
Question:
Who should we vote for for President?Answer:
We should vote for the one who appears to us to be the most conservative. Now, I can’t tell you who that is. But there’s no question that the conservatives of today are extremely more liberal than the liberals of thirty years ago. We have already advanced so far beyond the borders of liberalism, that today we can afford to retreat many miles behind these boundries and still remain in the forefront of liberalism. And therefore, today there’s no such thing as too much conservatism. You have to vote for conservative candidates on every level – on national, state and city levels.That’s my opinion. By the way, nobody here has to agree with me – on anything. Only, I don’t have to agree with you either.
TAPE # 133 (July 1976)
September 13, 2018 5:20 pm at 5:20 pm in reply to: Driving German cars by ” heimish” people. #1590826JosephParticipantAvi, what are you talking about regarding the Hungarians?
JosephParticipantUntil World War I it was often easy for any American to walk into the White House without an appointment and speak to the President.
September 13, 2018 12:52 pm at 12:52 pm in reply to: Driving German cars by ” heimish” people. #1590672JosephParticipantiac: A&P was all American.
September 13, 2018 10:24 am at 10:24 am in reply to: Driving German cars by ” heimish” people. #1590597JosephParticipantAvi, the contemporary Hungarians are from the better countries insofar as relations with Jews and Israel is concerned.
JosephParticipantMeeting Gedolim is easy. They don’t live in ivory towers and they are easily reachable and approachable. Meeting them person to person to speak to is eminently doable even with the greatest of the great. Most are also easily reachable via telephone.
JosephParticipantAvi, your last comment doesn’t even challenge Milhouse’s underlying point.
September 12, 2018 10:51 pm at 10:51 pm in reply to: Driving German cars by ” heimish” people. #1590416JosephParticipantDriving a luxury car is no better or different than living in a fancy home.
JosephParticipantJews don’t proselytize. And we discourage conversion.
JosephParticipantNo offense intended, CTL. Even when my words are sharp I say it with love and with tachlis, in the hope of making us all — myself, foremost — better Jews.
JosephParticipantRafi, I’m not disputing whether the reason the rate is low is due to the Chareidi high birth rate. Nor am I asserting that the rate is zero, unfortunately. Yes, with a high birth rate and B”H booming population even a very low OTD rate can equate with a notable number of such persons, in actual (real) numbers. Nevertheless, unfortunately the OTD rate has never been zero throughout Jewish history. That said, the Chareidi community has a very lot to be proud of that it is as tiny as it is. On a comparative basis we’re clearly doing a lot of things right.
JosephParticipantThe rabbonim should be on top of your list, CTL.
JosephParticipantlaskern: Are you arguing that you know better what’s best for the State of Israel than the leaders of the State of Israel know?
JosephParticipant“What about the party that signed the iran deal and endangered Israel? What about the party that supports murdering babies?”
May that party forever be destroyed and go into third-party oblivion.
JosephParticipantThe Ashkenazim brought their nusach/melodies with them from Eretz Yisroel.
September 12, 2018 3:13 pm at 3:13 pm in reply to: Cars Blowing Past School Buses With Lights Flashing #1590233JosephParticipantWhat’s the difference between flashing yellow and flashing red lights on a school bus?
JosephParticipantNo, Yseribus. The more modern the rabbi, the more likely his fans are to have created a Wikipedia page. That doesn’t indicated relative fame.
JosephParticipantNeville, politicians have been taking about vouchers for over 50 years.
A lot of good that talk has been.
JosephParticipantYseribus: Proportionally, blacks have more racists and engage in more racism than whites.
JosephParticipant1: The Orthodox voting districts in Williamsburg, Brooklyn in 2016 looked like they are in middle of Alabama. Kiryas Yoel also voted for Trump.
The same people who support toeivaniks oppose school vouchers. The same people who oppose toeivaniks, support school vouchers. So there’s no stira. With the same vote you can vote against the pervert supporters while also supporting vouchers.
JosephParticipantThe bigger question is how long after shaking a famous person’s hand do you refrain from washing it?
JosephParticipanttakah: Who are five or ten MO gedolim from your time that come to mind? (Regardless of who you met or not.)
JosephParticipantAvi, In the US, eminent MO Rabbi Steven Pruzansky cited an MO OTD rate of 25% or 50%. In Israel it is well known that a large percentage of former Hesder students enter the army daati but leave the army as chiloni. In the Chareidi world, both the US and Israel, the rate is in the very low single digits.
JosephParticipanttakah: You seem to have a preference for Chareidi Gedolim.
JosephParticipantWill you jump up and down dancing and singing and/or having a kumzits on Rosh Hashana, Yom Kippur and Tisha B’Av, Wolf, laskern and company?
Why is that less okay than doing the same for selichos?
JosephParticipantYou’re incorrigible, Wolf.
JosephParticipantAvi, the rate isn’t even in the ballpark. The rate is barely in the very low single digits.
JosephParticipantWhat’s the chilik, NCB. When the great of the greatest are in a heated argument, the hamon hoam is best to keep their heads out of it. If they know what’s good for them, that is.
Phil, you’re not and have never been MO; you’re not and have never been Chareidi; and you’re not and have never been Orthodox. You’re stam a sheigetz. You’ve advocated eating food without certification so long it doesn’t have known non-kosher ingredients; you’ve endorsed driving to shul on Shabbos if that’ll help shul attendence. But what you will be called out for is when you falsely put words in other’s mouths, as you’ve done in your most recent comment. A born liar always remains a liar, apparently, as you’ve never changed your false ways.
JosephParticipantMilhouse, if Webster’s had video, by the listing for “merry” they could easily use the video here from the Atrium slichos in Monsey where you see the guys jumping up and down and singing. And this is one of the tamer ones. By the Yehuda Green ones it is even worse:
VIDEO: Monsey: Neturei Karta Protest Selichos Event That Has Music
“Tisha B’av, with or without music, so long as the tunes are appropriate to the day. Merry is not appropriate.”
Why isn’t merry appropriate? Vi shteit az m’tur nisht?
JosephParticipantWhich frum Yid still votes Democrat? Some may still be registered Democrats but they vote Republican. Looking at the 2016 election results you’ll see that all the heavily Orthodox voting districts were heavily red. Looking at the map you could early think those parts of Brooklyn, Monsey and Lakewood were smack in middle of Alabama.
JosephParticipantGedolei Yisroel.
JosephParticipantTo summarize, you’d be okay with similarly innovating Yom Kippur and Tisha B’Av with merry singing and dancing, correct?
And having conceded these are modern innovations, you still have neglected to answer the question of specifically which Gedolim approve of these innovations.
September 8, 2018 10:59 pm at 10:59 pm in reply to: Mochel Loch… time to forgive and be forgiven! #1589231JosephParticipantknaidlach: What’s the ending — was he mochel?
September 8, 2018 9:25 pm at 9:25 pm in reply to: Why are Children from divorced homes treated as second class citizens? #1589145JosephParticipantCTL: A married parent can decide not to pay a penny towards college even if that parent went to Harvard, earns a seven digit salary and the grandparents fully paid his college in his youth. No court world generally force such a married parent to pay anything towards his children’s college.
Now if that parent is getting divorced, his spouse can litigate into forcing him to be legally responsible for a portion of the costs even though absent the divorce he’d have had no such obligation. Even though right from the outset he states that he wishes to not pay a penny towards any of his adult children’s college. And he makes no voluntary agreement with his spouse agreeing otherwise.
That demonstrates a different standard for married parents and for divorced parents.
September 7, 2018 5:41 pm at 5:41 pm in reply to: Why are Children from divorced homes treated as second class citizens? #1589091JosephParticipantThat’s a reasonable explanation but it isn’t a legal explanation. The parent has no legal obligation to pay for an adult child’s college or wedding expenses. This is demonstrable by the fact that if the parents are married a court will not force them to pay those expenses, if the child sues the parent for giving him nothing for college or nothing for his wedding.
So, even granting your explanation of the dynamics in a divorce, that doesn’t explain why a parent suddenly upon divorce becomes legally obligated to an adult child that he isn’t legally obligated absent divorce.
JosephParticipantMilhouse, we may be talking about two different things. I’m speaking of selichos that has no basis in any Jewish tradition. They are novel and introduced new elements, whether musical instruments or dancing or a festive atmosphere or whatnot, that simply didn’t exist 50 or 100 years ago during selichos.
Would you find it acceptable to turn the Yom Kippur and Tisha B’Av tefilos in shul into a festive atmosphere with merry singing and dancing?
As I asked earlier, where do they get the right to innovate Jewish customs on tefilos that we’ve been doing without these innovations for the last 1000+ years? Are they smarter than all our history of Gedolim and zeidas? Which Gedolim back them?; please name names.
September 7, 2018 1:24 pm at 1:24 pm in reply to: Why are Children from divorced homes treated as second class citizens? #1589051JosephParticipantCTLawyer, I appreciate your taking the time to provide that response, but that didn’t really answer my question. In short, why are divorced parents held to a different standard than married parents? Married parents aren’t generally legally obligated to fund their children’s college or wedding expenses. Why if divorced should a parent be forced to pay for that if he/she wouldn’t have been had the parents remained married to each other.
JosephParticipant“No but they too faced opposition for their innovations in Judaism trying to appeal to the masses.”
Ubiq: The Reform also faced opposition for their innovations. Rambam faced opposition too.
Facing opposition in and of itself, does not prove anything. Nor does it make it comparable to other random examples of people that faced opposition in Judaism.
“It is quite a stretch to say singing during selichos even with a guitar is “selling out the Torah””
How about a new trend in Yom Kippur, turning it into a kimzuts of singing, acapella, a choir and maybe some dancing.
For the millennials, y’know. The current Yom Kippur service of nightlong and daylong mumbling long prayers doesn’t resonate with them.
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