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Shopping: They ship to Israel?
laskern: Democrats did NOT deport parents who illegally broke into America with their children.
Schools are most certainly not a business.
APY: Teaching Torah to boys in mdoraysa. The others are not. No comparison whatsoever.
How do they not separate the criminals breaking into America illegally from their children who they brought in with them?
JJ: We should wish them goodbye. And encourage the other illegals to also make the same return trip. Mexico could use their help.
TLIK: Do you think Klal Yisroel’s many wonderful rebbeim in Europe and the Ottoman Empire, for over the past thousand years, had training programs?
Were our zeidas and bubbes over the last thousand years worse off than the kids today who have rebbeim that underwent training?
I’ve met quite a few Sephardim that have a better than casual knowledge of Yiddish.
APY: Rebbes are by far the most vital of all you listed.
MDG: And it the father is both poor as well as unlearned, should his children be condemned since he is both incapable of teaching them Torah and cannot afford tuition?
unommin: Good rebbeim are not so easily available.
uno: How about, so we don’t stand still during the Zionist siren. Let them get along and accept us for who we are even though we don’t become statues when they ring their siren.
Where’s their ahavos chinum?
Curiosity: Your valid complaint doesn’t apply to Chareidi yeshivos, as they aren’t guilty of what you charge.
Ramat: As the Gedolim have said, the Holocaust occurred due to our aveiros. Just as they happened by the Churban Beis HaMikdash. Whether it is Zionism, secularism, becoming more German than the Germans, etc. Like by the Churban Beis HaMikdash, the Churban Europe had multiple aveiros as the reason for its occurrence.
We must learn from that.
Ramat: The Holocaust also occurred due to the aveiros we were guilty of.
no nonsense: Thank you for your well thought out and explained comment. It was very thoughtful and meaningful.
You mentioned you work 52 hours a week as a Rebbi and Secular Studies teacher. But do most rebbeim also do secular studies? I would’ve guessed not, thus they likely don’t work as many hours as yourself.
Welcome aboard, Hocker1. Feel free to jump right in and throw some punches. Most folks here can take a little beating. 😉
Midwest2: I received professional help. My shrink advised me to participate in online forums and not shy away from posting Torah-true opinions even if some people have a hard time hearing them or accepting halachos they find difficult to keep or that they don’t want to know about or believe that is against the 21st century spirit of a modern Western society and ought to be relegated to ancient Jewish texts and law books that while studied aren’t any longer adhered to by modern men.
Glatt: Rav Moshe’s been around in the last 70 years. So has Rav Yaakov. And the Satmar Rebbe. And Rav Aharon. And the Bluzhever. And the Skulener zt’l and shlita. The Bobover. Rav Hutner. Rav Aharon Schechter shlita. Rav Pam. Rav Berenbaum. Rav Dovid Feinstein shlita. And many others, all around in the last 70 years, some still around as we speak.
He’s a huge godol but the others were/are even bigger.
Chong: You’re mixing up mesivtas with beis medrashes.
25 years ago? You think Rav Shmuel Berenbaum zt’l was chopped liver until he was niftar 10 years ago?
Midwest2: The halachos of loshon hora mean nothing to you as you consider them irrelevant and non-effective for the reasons you state?
It states ולא תלכו בחוקת הגוי – “You shouldn’t walk in the ways and customs of the nations.” The Rambam states in Hilchos Avodah Zarah that you shouldn’t follow the practices of the goyim. Not because it’s a certain practice that is wrong, but just because we should be different from the gentiles in the way we enjoy, in the way we behave, and even in the way we clothe ourselves. That’s what the Rambam says. Otherwise, if you participate in the things that goyim do, it’s not just that you’re sitting in a baseball stadium. The real problem is that your mind and your dei’os, which means your character traits, will begin imitating the nations with whom you are associating.
It’s important to be apart from wicked Jews too. (Not only wicked Jews, even Orthodox Jews who are fools. There are plenty of fools by the Orthodox too; oh yes! You have to be careful with whom you sit with in a beis haknesses. A fool sitting next to you can be speaking loshon harah or leitzanus during the davening. You have to be careful.)
The Rambam says דרך ברייתו של אדם להיות נמשך בדעותיו ובדרכיו אחר רעיו וחבריו – “A person is drawn in the way he thinks and the way he behaves according to with whom he associates. Even the Orthodox are included in that.
“Most cheder rabeim i know would actually not want a major raise because then they would lose out on section 8,heap,obama phone,food stamps,medicaid,jerseycare etc. and the list goes on and on.”
All those rebbeim should be given raises so that they are no longer poor. The raise must be big enough to take them out of poverty and make them unqualified for welfare, food stamps, medicaid, etc.
No rebbi should be given a wage that leaves his family indigant and needing or qualified for government welfare programs. Our rebbeim need to treated much better than that. How would YOU like to work on a wage that forces you to collect government welfare, food stamps and/or medicaid??!
Simcha613: “If it were in the hands of the religious to decide, it likely would have been a different day… or maybe not even a separate day at all.”
Er, it WAS in the hands of the religious to decide. And the religious leaders DID decide. So what the atheists decided in contradiction to the religious authorities is utterly meaningless.
No one told you what to do. It was pointed out that you made an unfounded, factually false, comment.
150 — How did Rav Ginzburg shlita propose correcting the problem identified in the OP of Yidden walking in the streets without a hat and jacket?
Perhaps other rabbonim should also raise this issue when speaking to their kehilos.
1: If they “aren’t on the map”, please share which — and how many — American yeshivos are “on the map”.
No they should not. The prohibitions against loshon hora, rechilus and motzei shem ra is not suspended for “newsworthy stories” or to get clicks and ad revenue.
The Gedolim who survived the Holocaust wrote kinos that we say on Tisha B’Av, in regards to the Holocaust, commemorating, honoring and remembering it and the kedoshim who died Al Kiddush Hashem in it.
“Nobody here suggested replacing Tisha ba’av with Yom hashoa”
The apikorsum who created the so-called “Yom Hashoa” certainly suggested replacing, and indeed entirely discarding Tisha B’Av, in its favor.
“there are many Yeshivot not in the standard you are looking for that are more than willing t btake your child.”
Yeshivos with lower standards do not charge less tuition than yeshivos that have higher spiritual standards.
I’ve asked many Yidden who survived the war and every one of them said it was the standard for every bochorim, yungerman and regular Yid to wear his hat and jacket when in public. It is also like this in many places in America. And it was like this in America in more places that lately got lax about it.
The shtriemel had nothing to do with any fur hats worn by Russian or Eastern European nobility.
The Polish aristocracy never wore anything even closely resembling a shtreimal or bekeshe.
Candid shows them with hats and jackets in the street. Bochorim, yungerman and hamon hoam.
Takah: If living in Lakewood will make someone better in Torah and Yiddishkeit than living in Petah Tikva, than it is a much greater mitzvah to live in Lakewood than in Israel.
How doel people go home from the hospital if they’re discharged Friday night?
Redleg: The hamon am also dressed in the street distinguishable like Yidden.
Are you talking about Loshon Kodesh or are you talking about Ivrit?
In Europe no frum male Bar Mitzvah or older would walk outside without his hat and jacket. The same was the case, and still is in many places, in America.
Ivrit is not loshon kodesh.
Takah: What’s your obsession with Zionism?
TGI: Brooklyn and Monsey have a Chofetz Chaim Yeshiva as well, among many other choices of yeshivos. Nothing insulting about this.
There’s no comparison to the wide and varied choices of great yeshivos in Lakewood, Brooklyn and Monsey to anywhere else other than Eretz Yisroel. Those three localities have choices that nowhere else in chutz offers.
Israel isn’t a Jewish state. The law is meaningless. There’s no difference whether the law exists or not other than that it incites the Arabs.
“Most of us would not want to live there nor live like that.”
And you’re all the poorer for it. Perhaps not materially poorer but certainly spiritually poorer. And spiritual is far far more important than material.
The shtetl is head and shoulders better for a Jew than American city life. And Yiddish is far better than English.
Spiritually speaking, of course.
Word of mouth.