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  • in reply to: The Zionist Entity #1469932

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    Yawn….
    BTW…Aren’t you the same guy that keeps sending the same type stuff to the TV Vues??…
    Are you & the Bal Chumra editor there tight ??

    in reply to: Minhag Hamakom #1469998

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    “….ZG, you know nothing of which you speak…”
    Joseph…. You’re not going to get away with this one. You’re lying.
    I have a lot of connection to the neighborhoods I mentioned. There are too many people who know you invented a statistic….. A total fabrication… You think everybody is in Honolulu and slurp up your “facts”.
    Ain’t happenin’ Joe…. Sheker.

    in reply to: Minhag Hamakom #1469930

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    Joseph : “…95% of the drivers in Boro Park are men. And of the 5% women, a good portion are coming from outside the neighborhood or are not frum, goyim, etc. Only a very small minority of Boro Park women drive….”

    Sheker, v’chazav, Joe. I’m there often and it’s about 50/50 just like Flatbush , Monsey, Crown Heights and everyplace else besides Willy & Monroe.
    You’re not helping your arguments by lying. Can we get a R’ Miller vort on sheker??

    in reply to: The Meshugas of Sports and Super Bowl #1466574

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    “…. Pig skin is assur b’hanna’ah….”
    Lol… , my understanding is that pig skin isn’t used anymore ,L’meiseh, bezman hazeh.
    Koomt oiss that it’s
    a sheilah if we’re goizer issur on the metziyus that is was once pig, and may be again. OR, since it’s faux ham, maybe the nekudah is that it’s stamm hefkeirus.
    On the hand, baseball, which was enjoyed by many rabbonim including Rabbis Wein and Finkel Z”L ,
    may be a be’riah bifnei atzmah and one may find a heter , even if b’dee’eved.
    On top of that, it’s a sheileh whether just wearing a baseball cap, provided it’s not shatnes, is mutter on the streets or not. As long as it’s not a Yankees cap, says the …………… , there’s a sevoroh to say that it’s ok.

    Nu, bleibt a kasha.

    in reply to: Question from a BT to and FFB #1466520

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    Shopping,
    The Mods didn’t let my response to you go through.
    The photo is NOT graphic. You can see search and see it for yourself.

    in reply to: The Meshugas of Sports and Super Bowl #1466548

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    I’m not a football fan so I don’t care about the Super Bowl.
    But just wondering , if watching it, or baseball or a hockey game can be compared to hanging out on streets “protesting ” , cursing, blocking ambulances, spitting and assaulting other Jews .
    Wondering, because some who absolutely forbid sports find toirelach, chareeeefus and pilpul to excuse the latter behavior. Sporst, however, = goyim, avodah zara, blah, blah. dontcha know??

    in reply to: Question from a BT to and FFB #1466329

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    DaasYochid,
    Thanks for their “explanation.” Maybe the big pushback from outraged readers changed their mind, but it’s good to know they retracted.

    keith @12:54,
    I understand what you’re saying. For relaxation, I’ll read hobby books, real life mysteries, and some others on subjects that interest me, and I’m not bothered by it, because I also spend time learning the good Jewish books.
    As someone told me about a different issue which I’ll apply here :
    ” When in Shomayim ( Heaven) they’ll ask you about the books, you just know it’s nearing the end of the Judgment process.”
    Hopefully, by that time I’ll have corrected my neshama, expunged by sins and, for example, just flat out prayed every prayer with the proper kavanah, and didn’t talk during davening. You know …. little things like that.
    Shabbat Shalom.

    in reply to: Question from a BT to and FFB #1466273

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    “Is the rest of the world crazy, or am I ? “…… Albert Einstein

    Just another word on pixelation.
    To its everlasting disgrace, a frum magazine just a few weeks ago , pixelated a woman in a Holocaust photo.
    In other words, erased from memory and eternal memorial, a Jewish mother, wife, sister who was most probably on the way to being shoved into a gas chamber. Why? Which normal human male looking at the photo has even a shadow of any kind of lewd thought at that moment?
    There’s a Holocaust museum now opened in Brooklyn, N.Y., calling itself Amud Aish.
    Yeshiva World ran a piece on them a few weeks ago. I’ve heard it said that the museum does not show women’s Holocaust victims on exhibit.
    So I posted a comment there asking for clarification, and this was their response:

    “Amud Aish does not have such a policy regarding showing pictures with women in them. However, when showing such photos, we take into consideration two things:
    1. Holocaust victim’s dignity
    2. Communal sensitivities
    Hence any photos, regardless of gender, are only exhibited with this in mind. We strive to present an accurate portrayal of the historic events, while ensuring that these concerns are addressed.”

    To me, this reads like a politician’s press release and not definitively answering the question.
    Does anybody know the answer ?

    in reply to: Question from a BT to and FFB #1466251

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    Takes2-2Tango________ Thanks.
    I’m sure there are lots of others who think like us but are being swamped by a swamp.
    BTW…. Midvar Sheker Tirchok , in today’s parshe fits well with some of these shenanigans.
    Also, before we get bashed, we’re not talking about filth whether it be in books, rap, film etc. Nobody’s defending that.

    in reply to: Question from a BT to and FFB #1466156

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    Keith,
    We’re livening in a time where culture, good or bad, is being thrown into the garbage heap.
    The progressive mindset , especially in academia and the arts is that great art, great books, great music, values, etc. from the past is mocked and in some cases demonized.
    This holds true in the frum world also.
    I learned in a frum, though not Chassidic nor strictly yeshivish yeshiva. Like most others, secular subjects were taught in the afternoon; sciences, literature, English, languages , etc. in high school.
    Dickens, Shakespeare, poems, sonnets, plays …. and other classics.
    All under the aegis of rosh yeshivos, rabbis, with parental approval. We took exams, and the dreaded Regents…. on the very desks where an hour ago, a big Talmud tome has rested . You’re correct in that there’s learning and value in reading history, studying the great classics and other great secular material. Just as smartphones/computers can used be used for negatives, so too can it be used for good.
    Some rabbis known as “gedolim” also read theses books, and many more were very familiar with the history and classical music.
    We live in an age of revisionism and outright lies masquerading as religion or frum, or whatever you want to call it. The famous Jewish publisher of the Talmud, Chumash, etc, which also publishes bios of rabbis have deliberately omitted this info. They have also refused to publish a RASHBAM in their new Bereishit chumash because of some mealy-mouthed excuse, when it was in fact published for hundreds of years.
    There is now Photoshopping, pixelating and erasing photos of women whether they were mothers, wives rebbetzins or just old grandmas in magazines, rags, freebie tabloids, serious articles and individual paintings.
    BTW, I’m FFB, and interestingly, a number of people whom I’ve known over the years who were, or came from BT families were in the tank with anti- secular book parade.
    ( Never let an ex—– smoker drinker, gluten , blintzes eater, drive you nuts) .
    There’s good/bad , great/mediocre/…. atheistic/faith … sewage/gold … in everything.
    Heck, you can see spirituality even in a baseball game when you set your mind to it.
    Speaking of 1984 ,it’s almost here, in more than one way .

    in reply to: Republicans Support Israel; Democrats Do Not #1456450

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    ubiquitin,
    I don’t believe you. There’s something I wrote that got your goat, and now you’re wrapping yourself in sanctimonious righteousness. You preach in anger and you’re not telling why. Be a little more blatant.

    in reply to: Republicans Support Israel; Democrats Do Not #1456455

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    “I dont like blatantly selecting mamarei chazal to fit your narrative”
    Define blatant, please. When is a selected meimar not blatant? …
    What part of my narrative bugs you?
    Don’t be disingenuous .

    in reply to: Republicans Support Israel; Democrats Do Not #1456335

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    “……Right and as The passuk describes Moshiach “Ani verochev al hapil…..”

    Why are you defending the donkey all of a sudden?
    Donkey could be used for good and for Avodah Zara… WHICH IT WAS….

    in reply to: Republicans Support Israel; Democrats Do Not #1456330

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    …. I’m pretty certain I saw it brought down in R’ Bachaya but maybe not in Ki Siso.

    In the meantime, I found this :
    The divine kabbalist, the Rama of Pano, presents a tremendous chiddush in Asarah Maamarot concerning the shape and image of the eigel. The source for his chiddush is the Tikunei Zohar (Tikun Sheini 5, 142a). The Rama of Pano writes: “אמרו עליו באגדה, שמחציו כלפי ראשו היה כתבנית שור אוכל
    עשב, וכלפי זנבו היה חמור, והן שתי מדות בקליפה… ועל כלאים זה אמרו אלה אלהיך
    ישראל”. They stated in the Aggadah that its upper half, toward its
    head, resembled an ox, eating grass; its lower half, toward its tail, resembled a donkey. These represent two elements of the klipah . . .

    in reply to: Republicans Support Israel; Democrats Do Not #1456321

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    “….whats the source that the Golden calf was half donkey btw?….”
    I’ll have to check again, but to my recollection, it’s a Rabbeinu Bachaye in Parshas Ki Sisa.

    in reply to: Republicans Support Israel; Democrats Do Not #1456217

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    Akuperma_____________ Right on.

    Remember the Dem convention 6 years ago when they booed G-D & Jerusalem.
    So from the ” A mentch tracht und Gutt lacht” files, Jerusalem has been declared as the Jewish capital
    and the Veep proclaimed the Shehecheyanu in the Land. Hashem’s hand in Jewish history is evermore being seen by those who want to see.
    Interesting commentary I read : The Golden Calf was half heifer, half donkey.
    So it’s time our brothers understand the symbolism of dancing with the DONKEY.
    I haven’t heard anything negative about the ELEPHANT.
    Have you?

    in reply to: Trump-No Move? #1452795

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    Now, or next year or 2 isn’t the issue. The big picture is that Trump changed the dynamics of the “peace” process, and even some Arab countries are quietly approving of the move.
    “I love Trump” T-shirts are pretty cool… Tired of the seltzer bottles on head acts , and clumsy ‘ole dancers stumbling away at the Keitzad Meraglim scenes when they hustle the kallah in for a minute… Whatever makes people happy…. Let ‘er rip..!!!!!

    in reply to: Saying L’shana Haba’ah B’Yerushalayim in Eretz Yisroel #1451774

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    “…..spend Pesach in Jerusalem’s Plaza hotel?” Or are they thinking,….. “

    At least they’re not off to Boiberik , Lake Titicaca, Biyalistock and such , spending fortunes & helping the economies of some Jew hating countries. There’s a better chance that at Shefoch Chamoscho, when they open the fancy doors of the Plaza, that Eliyahu Hanavi will REALLY show up and give the 3 days notice. At least they’re aiding & abetting parnassas for Jews.


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    …. And I’m including the vile pakshivillin that appeared in Jerusalem against Rav Shteinman, zichrono livrocho after his petirah. You don’t have to yell with the mouth, you can yell just as vulgar & obscene , even rachmono litzlan ,in Loshon Kodesh.


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    “…..The frum ones only yell at people….”
    LOLOLOL
    Yossel, You typing that with a straight face?
    LETZ even say that that’s all they do…. IAre klollos and foul languaged pakshivillin permitted?
    Watch him come back with eppes a meimer from somebody.

    in reply to: Are people who like blueberry pie headstrong and opinionated? #1448532

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    RebYidd,
    Oh, no !!!
    Here I’m struggling with a cake diet, and you gotta throw this at me.
    Blueberry pie is what gets served in heaven.
    We’ll talk headstrong & opinions much, much later.
    Now let me enjoy a couple of sinful slices
    BTW, as is usually the case nowadays, people are throwing in much, too much, a ton too much sugar, and spoiling the thing.
    Another thing…. Just the blueberry pie please… No nuts, carrots, sesame, eggplant, pecans and dressing in the mix , as they do to salads at weddings…
    Pleeeezzze…..


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    “…..Many Chardim are calling names to soldiers….” AND assaulting them physically.
    What we need are rabbonim who follow the Torah’s dictate of Lo Soguru Mipnei Ish,
    and in loud voice ask : RASHA…. Lomo sakeh es Reiyechu ? as Moshe Rabbeinu did. All the while keeping in mind that Dasan & Aviram were no angels as per Torah’s continuing narrative.
    Some are silent because they approve, some don’t care all that much, some are afraid of the Kol D’alim G’var thugs.
    When they get their toilet water shut off, garbage stinks not collected, spigot of $$$ from Jewish State pinched, mail delivery halted, it’ll all stop. Patience, my friend, patience.

    in reply to: The requirement for everyone to give Tochachah #1446133

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    Giving tochacha is an art . Aron Hakohen’s way is the model as to how it should be done.

    “…..Sefer HaChinuch perek 239 that you should give someone tochacha privately and in a nice way; but if they don’t listen to you, then you should embarrass them in public so that they will do teshuvah…..”

    Be wary of paskening such a sensitive issue by glancing in the good book.
    Ask a rav and do soul searching before ; as per Yehuda & Tamar… from where Chazal learn ” It’s better to throw yourself in the fire……”

    in reply to: Cognitive Dissonance: Marrying a Smoker. #1442962

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    … Forgot to say… Yes, he got everything he didn’t want… I mean EVERYTHING… Somebody UP THERE be laughing….

    in reply to: Cognitive Dissonance: Marrying a Smoker. #1442959

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    “MAYBE I just need to chill ”
    Yes, you do. Worrying about braces, smokers…
    As an aside, my rebbes & teachers smoked IN the classroom, before it became verboten.
    Nowadays, the PC police call you evil if you smoke at all.
    Anyway, most people don’t get exactly the partner they conjured up in their heads.
    My friend’s son didn’t want a redhead, wanted a tv in the house, didn’t want a tall girl, didn’t want a chubby one, didn’t want a Hungarian.
    Well, guess what? ……..
    So yeah, just chill… When the bells rings for you, you guyz’ll just break the plate.
    Say buddy…. You got an extra cigarette??

    in reply to: I want to get braces! #1442862

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    Halevei that should be your worst concern. We’re all attracted to different things, some “offbeat.”
    Hence, there could be someone going who’ll go absolutely bananas over braces, who knows?
    On the other hand, if he only sees braces, you probably don’t want him anyway.

    in reply to: What makes a good father-in-law? #1442847

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    “Nice, but no. We’re already had a frank chat with them about finances.”
    Of course.
    What he meant was , if one can afford it, and there those that can.
    If not, then at the very least, do half… Be stingy with advise unless asked.

    in reply to: What makes a good father-in-law? #1442658

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    Words from my late rabbi, a wonderful person, of whom many might have heard of:

    ” A father-in-law should keep his mouth shut, and his wallet open.”
    Presumably, that goes as well for mother-in-law.

    in reply to: Shidduch Bio – brief statement #1439236

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    ‘Lo Taaseh Lecho Pesel Kol Maseich”
    Maybe there’s something to the early ( and even , contemporary ) opinions by some rabbonim against photos of people.
    “Maseicho” …. A mask… A pic masks the person to a degree.
    Who knows…

    in reply to: Shidduch Bio – brief statement #1439237

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    … Of course, I meant “maseicho” as a drash, not the actual pshat.

    in reply to: Does it mean he’s a bad person? #1439172

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    RebYidd33,
    I apologize, but had to respond to Joseph’s sucker punch about Jewish music.
    Enjoy your thread.

    in reply to: Does it mean he’s a bad person? #1439147

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    Catchyourself,
    Agree with you completely, that was precisely my point. My response was to Joseph who featured himself listening to “Jewish ” music while knocking Gadolhadorah .

    in reply to: Does it mean he’s a bad person? #1439111

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    … Or what I get a kick out of most, are the intros to chosson/kallah entrances. Rock, punk, mambos, etc… while everybody gets so busy waiting in line breathlessly. Jewish music my last week’s Matyas herring.
    Years ago, dinner music was beautiful , yes, secular music and nobody complained.
    These days is non-stop screaming ” Oy vey, bre ng shoyn Moshiach… Aha… Aha… Der shviger dantzt, the yenta zugt, der yiddel shpringt, oy, vay, oy vay. Or some “memre” someplace which doesn’t fit the music.
    Shomer Chinum, Shomer, Sachar, aye, aye, aye….

    in reply to: Does it mean he’s a bad person? #1439104

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    Joseph says : ” Most of us here listen to Jewish music, which is still sold mostly on CDs.”

    Oopah…!! Surely you mean lots of “secular” genre music with “psukim from Tanach” verses. ( I’m talking the last 15 years )
    Plenty of “big” name Jewish stars who stole rock music songs whole, and glued Jewish words to them.
    What constitutes Jewish is itself another matter of discussion. Jewish Sefardi music differs from Ashkenazi, at the very least in scales. In any case, most contemporary Jewish music is boring, all sound the same, imitations of one from another, uninspiring . Did I mention uninspiring?
    Now I’m copywriting Chubby Checker’s ‘The Twist” into Siman Tov & Mazel Tov.
    Get a lawyer if I hear you singing or playing it the next 2nd dance.
    Anyway, “most” is guesswork.

    in reply to: MINYANIM AND KOSHER FOOD IN JORDAN AND LEBANON #1439030

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    Hahaha…. At least I got to laugh a little.. This prankster could easily do research elsewhere , but instead hocks a cheinik here , don’t fall for it.. He’s playing back your comments all day to get thrills.

    in reply to: MINYANIM AND KOSHER FOOD IN JORDAN AND LEBANON #1439018

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    LOL……Folks, this rabbi of Crawley is pulling your legs, or it’s kinda busy at the “beverage” counter.
    He started this othre thread about crime in US. Vibes tell me this guy is bellylaughing with a tall Guiness.

    in reply to: The Chofetz Chaim’s Best Friend — How not to be friends or a spouse #1436374

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    Joseph:
    You brought up YOUR rabbis and I have mine. We already discussed that on anther thread.
    Your rabbis were against it, my rabbis AND present realty were/are for it.
    BTW… Chofetz Chaim’s position is ambiguous and both sides bring him over to their side.
    Whatever the case, my point was that just because Rav Miller holds positions you agree with, doesn’t mean that I and other have to agree also . If that be not drinking Kool Aid , then THAT be it.
    Chabadshlucha: What I like about you is that you’re sincere and not condescending like some others.

    in reply to: The Chofetz Chaim’s Best Friend — How not to be friends or a spouse #1435885

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    Just remembered…. Rabbi Chaskel Besser , zichrono livracha.

    in reply to: The Chofetz Chaim’s Best Friend — How not to be friends or a spouse #1435748

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    … and disagree with Rav Miller on Zionism. Absolutely.
    Didn’t he translate the Satmar talking points into English decades ago, and were published in the NY Times, for all and one to read and see.
    I love his books about how to see Hashem in nature, and even gave them as gifts to non-religious colleagues years ago. Even attended some of his Thursday shiurim in Brooklyn.
    But he’s said some outrageous things, andas I stated earlier, I don’t drink his KoolAde.

    in reply to: The Chofetz Chaim’s Best Friend — How not to be friends or a spouse #1435789

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    The shita of many Litvishe gedolim was to be restrained, not showing emotions too much, keep a parve face. The Chassiddim, on the other hand, were more outwardly warm and friendlier. Rav Miller’s viewpoint reflects the former. Mussardig, stern. Chassisdim ? Warmer, shmoozier, just a different apprapproach . Pick and choose either one.

    in reply to: The Chofetz Chaim’s Best Friend — How not to be friends or a spouse #1435764

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    His name escapes me at the moment, but maybe someone can remember him. ( last name began with a B , I think)
    He was a Chassidic businessman, met with prominent world leaders all over the world, a weathy businessman and huge talmid chochom. He was reluctantly appointed rabbi in a shtiebel in the West Side of Manhattan and never sat at the mizrach “shtoot”. Was niftar about 10 years ago.
    In his bio, he recounts how in his Polish shtetel ( near Radom?) ehrliche yidden, on a summer Shabbos would take walks in the park, discuss issues of the day and socialize. He was also an expert in classical music and could instantly name the composer of any piece within hearing the first bar of the composition.
    Not everybody can talk Torah and only Torah 24/7. maybe one in 2 million. I don’t and bet you don’t either. So for whom are you writing this? We already know about not hanging out and noxious friends since we’re kids. Nothing new here.

    Shlucha: Of course I don’t believe in wasting out time or life.
    I think both of you missed my points. But the amcha Yidden reading this, know exactly what I’m talking about.

    in reply to: The Chofetz Chaim’s Best Friend — How not to be friends or a spouse #1435746

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    Joseph:
    I’m not accusing her of anything. My statement about revision was meant for the current wave of bio books and articles revising and lying about famous rabbonim.
    Ok, let’s talk about adults.
    Most adults need friends and companionship. Maybe the rabbonim get theirs by the myriads of chassidim or chevras coming en masse to them; tishes, droshos, candle lighting, chametz burnings, gabboim escorts and the rest.
    We, ordinary folks, don’t live that life, hence, we, adults need friends and companions.
    Bnei Torah too. S-L-O- W-L-Y…. Bnai Torah too, however their friendship manifests itself.
    Saw some rabbonim with their “cronies” sitting in the Swiss Alps on vacation a while back, all over YWN.
    I didn’t miss any point , Joseph. I’m alert, oriented and awake, and disagree with Rav Miller on this, and other viewpoints as well. I’m not his groupie.

    Chabadshlucha,
    Did you go past the 5th grade?
    Humans are sometimes called animals in certain contexts.
    Read your Chabad literature a bit more deeply. They also refer to humans sometimes as animals.

    in reply to: The Chofetz Chaim’s Best Friend — How not to be friends or a spouse #1435725

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    Chabadshlucha,
    Bless your soul, be we know about mitzvos and learning and the whole 9.
    From a human standpoint, Hashem created us to be social animals— some are more, some less.
    I’m not a big social person but I respect others who are.
    Please keep this in mind:
    Ask any parent who has a child with social issues and has difficulty making friends, how it feels.
    It’s a heartache, a searing, painful heartache. First, let’s grow up to be at least semi- normal and healthy, then we’ll deal with mitzvos and mussar and the like.
    Whatever you , don’t revise bio history of rabbis, rebbes, ravs, tzaddikim on us. Besides being a pack of lies, it’s not a way for us to model them. They played ball, chess, fought at school like the rest of us.

    in reply to: The Chofetz Chaim’s Best Friend — How not to be friends or a spouse #1435649

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    …And Chira wasn’t even Jewish, while Yehudah was one of Shivtei Ku..
    Now if Chofetz Chaim didn’t need friends, fine.
    Most of us do, at least be with other humans and let’s be honest about it and not pretend, or be anxious that there’s something wrong with it. Nothing’s wrong with it, it’s healthy.

    in reply to: The Chofetz Chaim’s Best Friend — How not to be friends or a spouse #1435644

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    People: Don’t go bananas because Joseph here is trying to sell us Rav Miller’s point of view on friendship.
    It’s an interesting ‘teitch’ but remember Choni Hamagil , after 70 years of sleep, all his friends dead, said famously ” Give me friends or death”. So go spin that whichever way you want till heads spin..
    Yehuda had at least one friend whom the Torah mentions, Chira. Plenty in Taanach about tzaddikim and friends, etc. Whether Dovid played chess with Yonason is not something you, Joseph, know. I would bet they did. So what? That makes them less tzaddikim? Croney is an awful word anyway… Trying to diminish healthy friendship among people with a “pejorative’ kinda word with that kind of ring. People need friends unless you’re an almost -malach.
    Did the Chofetz Chaim have a wife altogether?? Gee, you’d never know it by the Photoshopped pictures.
    Gimme a break.

    in reply to: Spiritual Significance of Jerusalem and embassy announcement #1424133

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    Anyway guys… Have a Happy Chanukah, there’s nothing more here to say or stay.
    I prefer to look at the NOW & future of Eretz Yisroel, instead of the irrelevant arguments of the past.
    Prefer to acknowledge the rabbis who were correct over those who were wrong.. Prefer to acknowledge Hashem’s nissim, especially at this time of year , instead of finding fault, instead of regurgitating meraglim propaganda. Prefer to hope that the secular will become a religious group via methods used by Rabbi Aryeh Levin, Zechuto Yagen Aleinu, rather than curses, spittle, and pulling frayed, yellowed pamphlets of failed shittas to disparage, rave and rant.
    To humbly acknowledge that Hashem has come back , has not forgotten, is behind the dizzying success of Eretz Yisroel and the critics are being designated to the trash heaps.
    Oh…. Please be careful about what and how you speak of Eretz Yisroel… Don’t wind up , as millions did, in Mitzrayim during Makas Choshech.. Who were they? what were their names? Nobody knows.
    Or cares.
    Chag Someach to all.

    in reply to: Spiritual Significance of Jerusalem and embassy announcement #1423974

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    kj chusid@10:19,
    OOpah…!!! Another lie… Here’s you:
    “……:all the gedoilim ….”
    No sir. Not all. Many rabbis supported it and the list is impressive. How about we start with Rav KalischerZTL and RavTeichtal H”YD… But there are others. Don’t lie kj…. Please don’t .
    Oh…., and of course may HE have mercy on your soul as well. In fact may He have mercy on all of us.

    in reply to: Spiritual Significance of Jerusalem and embassy announcement #1423969

    ZionGate
    Participant

    Joseph @ 10:11

    Your comments are part sheker v’chazav and part, out of context. A Torah Jew like yourself should know that Midvar Sheker is a d’Oireiseh. Oversimplification and omitting truth factoids are also, and forever, sheker.
    Have a lovely evening.

    in reply to: Spiritual Significance of Jerusalem and embassy announcement #1423952

    ZionGate
    Participant

    Bottom Line:
    All these historical pros/cons, which rebbe said what, who was anti-Zionist, who wasn’t… curses, Zionist this, Zionist that, doesn’t mean a hill of beans anymore. Yeah, it’s a rainy afternoon’s entertainment read , but so what?
    Hashem has made the State of Israel grow in Torah, agriculture, infrastructure, Aliyah immigration, tech, prominence, etc, etc, vechoolhu, vchoolhu. All curses, anti-Zionists positions are forever irrelevant. Miracles every moment, even millions of Christians and good people everywhere are in awe except for blind , self-professed Torah Jews who don’t see and don’t hear.. mired in the irrelevant past to continue to hate in the present. Too bad.
    Your tirades don’t matter anymore.
    Your pshetlach are worthless.
    Shalom.

    in reply to: Spiritual Significance of Jerusalem and embassy announcement #1423948

    ZionGate
    Participant

    joseph,
    1.) Did you read what I wrote about Uganda, or are you pretending?
    2.) So mema nifshach,: If you don’t believe in a State, what’s your tummyache with Uganda?
    If you do believe in it , what’s your beef with the State? Even if 100% frum , you
    don’t want it .
    3.) Be careful of your curse words Mr. Torah Jew. Hopefully, they don’t come back to bite you.

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