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1. This Murderer is well experienced in withholding funding.

   First he withheld funding from old age homes which wouldn’t take back Corona infested residents which would have thwarted his plans to savagely murder 13,000 innocent elderly victims.

   & how can he sign an order without the approval of the state senate & assembly?

2. Most how the elected officials have been acting can be explained very simply as just doing what ever is popular in the polls and the media. You cant really blame them their job is to stay popular and get reelected. There is no reason to ever think a goy has your best interest in mind, our elected officials do what ever makes them look better in the eyes of the hamon am. For all those who thought their sole intention with their rules was to protect you, sorry to burst you bubble, but their rules where to keep them popular and get themselfs honored and it didn’t matter who their rules killed (nursing homes, defund police, ect.).
   But one thing we can see during these times is that on top of all this we also have halachah esuv sonai yaakov and it is something we should not forget. The leaders of NY are descendants of Rome and Germany.

3. Most how the elected officials have been acting can be explained very simply as just doing what ever is popular in the polls and the media. You cant really blame them their job is to stay popular and get reelected. There is no reason to ever think a goy has your best interest in mind, our elected officials do what ever makes them look better in the eyes of the hamon am. For all those who thought their sole intention with their rules was to protect you, sorry to burst you bubble, but their rules where to keep them popular and get THEMSELVES honored and it didn’t matter who their rules killed (nursing homes, defund police, ect.).
   But one thing we can see during these times is that on top of all this we also have halachah esuv sonai yaakov and it is something we should not forget. The leaders of NY are descendants of Rome and Germany.

4. Good for the Governor. Enough games.

5. funding??? keep it . message from the community. WE DON’T WANT YOUR FUNDING……..PLUS..IF TRUMP COULDN’T DO IT YOU CAN’T DO IT EITHER. YOU ARE NOT A KING
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6. Any lawyers out there? The funds will be withheld “for the period of time…found to be in violation”. So once they are no longer in violation, the funds can continue?

7. Funding! What funding? Lunch program and textbook funding, let him keep it.
   He’s an even bigger sfachim than his father!
   As Bob Grant would have said, “Andrew acien da me, du se probio no sfachim!”

8. It’s sad that the situation has devolved into this. Cuomo is a tyrant who will stop at nothing to ensure that his decrees are carried out to quell the unrest he feels at the Jews existence. He doesn’t negotiate or try to understand the unique needs of his Jewish constituents and he’s made it his business to attack us. I can only assume that the community leaders who authorized opening the schools evaluated the situation and decided that it’s worth the trade off.

   Note that DeBlasio rushed to close down our Yeshivos before Yom Kippur, before the current rise in cases began. They came down to schools and noted that since there were 2 cases in the course of a week and a half (entire cohort + family went into quarantine with no additional spread) it’s considered a “trend”. They closed these schools after acknowledging that their procedures and adherence to guidelines were admirable, then went on the news to smear our community and announced that they closed yeshivos which were causing the spread.

   The fact that our Rabbanim made the choice to close down shuls was used against them in the Agudah hearing. The judge didn’t account for the changes to the state of emergency, while COVID is still a threat to our vulnerable, this breakout is nothing compared to what it was.

   All this points to the leaders making the decision that our religious practice cannot be squashed. They’ll continue to implement measures within the institutions which will keep the spread of illness under control.

9. The Jew hater has signed the Haman decree. He won’t lock down areas that really have people dying like Harlem,corona Queens,east New York,Bedford sty,Bushwick. Why not. It’s all political to hurt pro Trump voting communities.

10. If usurping the power of the legislative branch to make funding decisions is not overreach and fodder for a lawsuit I don’t know what is.

    Irony of ironies it was Cuomo who said when trump claimed to have broad powers due to the national emergency “You don’t become king because there’s a national emergency.”

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/people.com/politics/as-trump-announces-total-authority-cuomo-fires-back-you-dont-become-king-in-an-emergency/%3famp=true

    This sounds suspiciously like the 7th circuit court of appeals case when Trump tried to withhold funding from sanctuary cities and the court ruled against him stating:

    “The founders of our country well understood that the concentration of power threatens individual liberty and established a bulwark against such tyranny by creating a sepa‐ ration of powers among the branches of government. If the Executive Branch can determine policy, and then use the power of the purse to mandate compliance with that policy by the state and local governments, all without the authori‐ zation or even acquiescence of elected legislators, that check against tyranny is forsaken. The Attorney General in this case used the sword of federal funding to conscript state and local authorities to aid in federal civil immigration enforce‐ ment. But the power of the purse rests with Congress, which authorized the federal funds at issue and did not impose any immigration enforcement conditions on the receipt of such funds. In fact, Congress repeatedly refused to approve of measures that would tie funding to state and local immigra‐ tion policies. Nor, as we will discuss, did Congress authorize the Attorney General to impose such conditions. It falls to us, the judiciary, as the remaining branch of the government, to act as a check on such usurpation of power. We are a country that jealously guards the separation of powers, and we must be ever‐vigilant in that endeavor.“

    https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000162-df3f-d817-a7f2-df3fb83b0000

11. Rasha Merisha.

12. It may also violate the 14th amendment due process clause. Courts have found that once states have decided to confer a benefit, they may not take that benefit away without due process. See https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/419/565/#573

13. we care about our Religion and our kids yiddishkeit more than anything else
    this is our PRO LIFE
    the choice to not wear a mask is our PRO CHOICE
    , the choice to be different is our ALTERNATIVE LIFESTYLE

    CUOMO /DEBLASIO ,
    raise taxes if you want , change the highway speed limit ,make people use two seatbelts in a car , whatever laws you want
    HANDS OFF anything that has that has to to do how we practice our religion or the way we choose to go about our kids education
    ITS 2020 AND THE NY STATE GOVERNMENT IS VIOLATING OUR RIGHT ON HOW WE PRACTICE OUR RELIGION
    IT’S OUR CIVIL RIGHT TO DECIDE IF WE WANT TO ATTEND A MINYAN WITH 500 PEOPLE

    it’s our civil right on how we choose to protect our health , anyone that is concerned can put themselves into a bubble till next year tuesday

    a box of masks got burnt on 13th ave , this is our BOSTON TEA PARTY!!!!!!

    psst.. anyone know when the looting gona start? I can use another set of leatherbound machzorim and New silver menorah 🙂

14. I’m quite certain that due to the governors decision to insist that the nursing homes take back the sick patients
    with the China virus and thus causing untold thousands of deaths and due to his passing the no bail requirement for criminals thus making a mockery of our justice system and due to his double standard in following the science at his whim and convenience that NEW YORK STATE is in play to become a republican state once again. Even the democrats are fed up with his fear mongering and lockdown attitude and his total inability to keep law and order.

15. Thank you for sharing a post from your side.

16. If Frum Jews understand the laws of NIDDAH, why can’t we understand the rules of sanitary precautions, the purpose of wearing a mask, wash hands, avoid touching others and keep social distancing as much as possible???? Why is it so hard to chap? The Governor (or any non J authority can’t understand and have a DNA of not liking us in spite of all his declarations of love for us). But why all this Chillul Hashem?!!!Why so much Meshugas in Borough Park and elsewhere?!!! And profoundly I am begging you to consider that by neglecting rules of basic hygiene and sanitary measures (and the CDC’s are not bad at all) you protect others and yourself. You protect yourself from being a murderer Beshogeg… in these columns it showed Gedolim and Zekenim getting infected by their brethren’s negligence. This is the core meshugas I can’t start understanding. Because YES, it’s literally killing. Because factually xxxx number of them died because of someone who did not wear a mask, coughed and breathed on the face of someone else and contaminated a WHOLE SHUL. A WHOLE BAIS MEDRASH. When is it going to be understood?! Think of the NIDDAH Hallachot. That’s all it takes!!!!

17. Fair enough. Cuomo wants to play that game? All residents in the hot spots should withhold their state income filings. Plus sales tax. How’s that for a deal crazy Andy?

18. Bottom line: by encouraging rioting and looting, Cuomo brought this upon himself.

19. We need to launch a grassroots project to campaign against these liberal Dems. Their presence is a form of torture for our community. The less support these reshoim get, the sooner we can be freed from their oppression. Think about gezairas Haman. Revach vehatzoloh yyamod layehudim.

20. Well they said vote Democrat.

21. Occupy Albany / NYC

    Have every Mosad send 5 buses, band everyone together to get 1,000 + strong. Have them drive through NYC streets single file, 5 mph, then continue on to Albany. 1,000 buses going 15 on the throughway.. all lanes. Continue on till Albany, march up and down the streets, 5 mph

    Mr Mayor, Mr Governor, we’re bored… we’ll continue every day…

    You close us, we’ll close you!!!

22. But Raboisai, where is it written that we are “entitled” to state resources (in other words, non-jewish tax dollars) in the first place? If we as Yidden do well off the back of New York state, so be it; if not, perhaps we should think about returning to the time-honored Jewish way of doing things, namely, building up our community from within. That is the one and only way we survived and got to where we are today so why change our hashkofas now just becasue of a virus?

23. SaraZippora the Jewish community pays millions in taxes each year AND we forgo the $28,000 which is provided to public schools for each student, saving them that money & paying our own schools instead. “Non-Jewish tax dollars”, we pay towards their children to go to school AND for our children to go to school.

    There are some students within our schools who come from low income homes, who likely get some sort of scholarship. Those students are, by law, entitled to those services. It’s called equitable funding and it is allocated to help those CHILDREN, it goes directly to the service provider, such as the Title I teachers it is not given to the school.

24. BTW a couple of years ago a large group took their children to enroll in public school in protest. They were granted what they wanted immediately. Sending our children into their schools would bankrupt their system. It’s in their best interest to support our mosdos through whatever legal channels exist.

    Also, the schools made this decision knowing the repercussions and did it anyway, but it’s unlawful to withhold funding like this.

25. Decency is the Key: Yes, it happens to be that there are many Jewish taxpayers in New York, including large contributers. As to how schools are funded, as a parent and teacher I understand your math and the relationship between schools and the state. The debate in this and related articles, however, is more of a halachic and hashkofic one. Nowhere else in the world is it muttar for frum yidden to go on marches or demonstrate out on the street, let alone yell at cops. That applies whether the demonstration relates to an issue in wider society, or to the Jewish community itself (even worse). It is besides the point the exact number of tax dollars we are speaking about in New York, or whether those amounts are raised or recieved by non-Jews or not. What matters is that in our community we think and behave first and foremost like Yidden, not like New Yorkers. Because right now we are acting like reformers in the ‘new Jerusalem’.

26. SaraZippora Make your point as you wish it to be understood.

    Our children are entitled to equitable services by law and we pay into the system enough to cover those expenses many times over. They are entitled to those funds regardless of the fact that a (miniscule, in relation to the community) group of Jews chose to act irresponsibly.

    These issues are separate and you should not conflate them.

27. Decency, I totally get where you are coming from and you are of course factually correct. In my opinion, we have to be careful not to conflate our legal entitlement to educational services and the contributions we make to the economy with the idea that we can or should pursue those rights any old how. We can have all the schools we like but teaching kinderlach to rabble rouse on the street is the very antithesis of Jewish education, not something which oculd ever advances it.

28. Hey New Yorkers! The ONLY way to counter this is to VOTE FOR TRUMP.
    Otherwise, get used to it, or pack your bags.

29. Decency, I totally get where you are coming from and you are of course factually correct. In my opinion, where the conflation comes in is in our confusing our legal entitlement to educational services with the idea that we can somehow pursue that right in the manner of non-Jews. We can have all the classrooms we like but in the bigger picture, teaching kinderlach to rabble rouse on the street is the very antithesis of Jewish education, not something which can ever advance it.

30. Month upon month year upon year immoral perverted bills were passed & continue upending the whole edifice
    and if our fellow community members cared enough the response was we can’t do civil disobedience
    “what can we do ”
    “Well we are a minority ”
    “we need the funding”

    A kitrug from shamayim

31. TO “It is time for Truth”
    Where does the Shulchan Aruch obligate us to engage in civil disobedience?
    Your kitrug is not from shamayim unless you have a source.

    If the situation is that going to shul or yeshiva is Safeik Sakkonos Nefashos, then it is probably assur to go to shul or yeshiva. The same Safeik Sakkonos Nefashos that is used as a heter to violate Shabbos by Hatzolah can also matir davening B’yichidus or learning at home.

    Perhaps we should consider Lev Malachim B’yad Hashem? Perhaps Cuomo is just bringing us a message from The King?

    Rabbosai! We are less than 2 weeks away from U.S. elections. It is logical to assume that there will be civil unrest after those elections. To whom will we be begging to protect us in 2 weeks?

32. !אור זרוע לצדיק

33. Taking money from the government enslaves you to them. It would be better not to take government funding at all and keep their independence. Also we’re in golus. Why does everyone feel so entitled? We should be working on bringing Moshiach.

34. So now Cuomo is in control of the state treasury as well? Doesn’t he have to answer to a higher being?