MAILBAG: The Great Assault On Our Children’s Summer Camps And Vacations

The Pesach Yom Tov is now behind us and summer plans are beginning to occupy our minds in earnest.

Many parents have already been put on notice that their child’s Yeshiva elementary school year will, for the first time in history, end approximately 2 weeks earlier than usual and begin the coming year 2 weeks early as well. We are told that this is to rectify a “problem” of the Elul Zman beginning in the middle of August. Since the Yeshivos begin Rosh Chodesh Elul, and the Mesivtah Bochrim will have to head back to Yeshiva in mid August, it was deemed necessary for all Talmidim to start and end the summer season 2 weeks in advance.

The question that many are asking is, how did this suddenly become a problem that now requires a solution? Why wasn’t this an issue for the Frum New York community for the past three quarters of a century or more? For years, all the camps followed the schedule of a July- August summer season and no one seemed to have any difficulty. What changed over the last decade and a half that created an “Elul crisis” that has now upset our school year and summer calendar?

Before we discuss the factors that contributed to this “Elul problem”, and the havoc it is wreaking upon our communities, a brief overview of the operational history of our Yeshivos and boys camps is in order.

The leading Mesivtos here in New York where the majority of Heimeshe Bochrim once attended such as; Torah V’daas, Mir, Chaim Berlin, Chasan Sofer, Be’er Shmuel, MTJ, Kaminetz and others, were founded around a century ago by selfless Rabonim and Baalei Batim with the purpose of providing a sound Chinuch for the children of the Jewish community that would produce Erlicheh Yidden Shomrei Torah U’Mitzvos. I believe we can all agree that they largely succeeded in their goal.
At the same time, summer camps for children and Mesivtah Bochrim were being set up as well. They too were founded and operated by clear thinking Askanim, individuals who understood the importance of keeping Yeshiva kids in camps during the summer, and as far away as possible from the sweltering pritzusdika city streets.

The dedicated founders of those great Yeshivos and Camps were not pretending to emulate Brisk, Slabodka, Kletsk, Mir or Pressburg. They were not fooling themselves or others. They, who originated precisely from the old country, understood the environment they were currently living in, and worked accordingly, and thus the
Yeshivos and camps scheduled their calendar to coincide with the end of the secular school year, and to accommodate the regent exam schedule and Bungalow Colony seasons. The official summer season began around July 4th and ended around Labor Day.

When Elul would come in August, the camps continued as usual. Some camps added a daily Mussar Seder and the Rabbeim often included in their learning group lessons about the Yomim Noroim and its time for Teshuva. Some camps based their color war themes on the Yamim Tovim of Tishrei. One camp even published beautiful booklets compiling the Halachos of Rosh Hashanah, Yom Kippur and Sukkos, with contests and prizes for campers who memorized them. It was out of the question however to bring Yeshiva kids back to the steamy hot city for an “Elul Zman”.

The exception to this was Lakewood and Bais Hatalmud that did begin in Elul. Both of these Yeshivos were for Bais Medresh age Bochrim. Mesivtah boys remained in camp. This enabled many of the older Mesivtah Bochrim to be counselors for the younger campers. Those choshiveh budding Yeshivaleit often had a positive and long lasting influence on their campers.

Beginning around twenty years ago, several new small Mesivtahs opened in the small towns of New Jersey. Their new and young Roshei Yeshiva, wishing their Yeshiva to be recognized as a real and better Makom Torah than the existing ones, decided to begin their Zman on Rosh Chodesh Elul. Unlike the founders of the original Yeshivos, they did not have the foresight to realize how this new schedule would eventually negatively impact the Chinuch of thousands of children throughout the summer months.

Imitating the pre-war Yeshivos of Europe that began in Elul, served as an attractive novelty to the newly emerging young parent body that wanted only the best for their children.

Initially this did not pose much of a problem. The amount of Bochrim enrolled in these Mesivtahs was minimal and their absence from camp was hardly felt. These new Yeshivos were out of town and the boys would dorm there. This then did not disrupt the family’s summer plans either, as they could continue to remain in the mountains or wherever, while their Bochrim were dorming and being taken care of.

However when more and more Mesivtahs began springing up that were competing for the same exclusive student body, they too felt compelled to begin Rosh Chodesh Elul. Should they begin on Labor Day, they would be considered inferior to those prestigious Yeshivos, and would not get the enrollment they truly desired. Thus in a few short years, the boys camps began losing their finest Bochrim in the middle of August and were basically left without counselors or staff. Desperate head counselors would scramble to find counselors from here and there (often from the “weaker” non Elul Yeshivas) and, at times, would have to combine or divide bunks as necessary.

The problem became compounded when even some Brooklyn and Queens Mesivtahs, not to be outdone by their out of town competitors, recently began their new Zman on Rosh Chodesh Elul as well. This now created a fresh crisis. Since they had no dormitory, those Bochrim would have to be alone in their homes during the evening hours. This was obviously unacceptable and parents found themselves forced to cut their stay in the country and come home to “babysit” their Mesivtah son.

This whole new development began to erode the camp structure, and parents soon sought other venues for their Bochrim and Yeshiva kids to spend their now limited summer vacation. One month hiking camps, Eretz Yisroel trips and groups of boys organizing their own road trips across the United States were being initiated, and a new trend had begun. Removing so many Bochrim from the boys camps however, resulted in calling into question the entire viability of the boys camp as it had been known until now.

None of this posed any problem for the Roshei Yeshivos. As implied above, as long as the Bochrim would be back for the Psichas Hazman on Rosh Chodesh Elul, all was well and good, and parents influenced in no small way by “brand names” and herd mentality, were still clamoring to get their Bochrim into these newer “distinguished” Yeshivos.

The ones who had much to fear from these new and fragmented summers were obviously the camp owners.

With most of their quality staff abandoning camp 2 weeks into the second half or earlier, and others now rethinking the entire camp participation in lieu of more interesting short vacations, the camp summers were being chiseled down, and so were their revenues. Those in the know will confirm that it is almost not worthwhile to open and operate a smaller camp for just six weeks (and with a mediocre staff at that).

But besides for the camp owner’s profits, the real victims here are the children.
Truth be told, who like Mechanchim, camp owners and head counselors know what a life saver the camps are for quite a lot of children and teenagers. Kids from broken or dysfunctional homes (even from homes that appear regular but actually aren’t) found themselves safely distracted and cared for in a healthy and fun environment for 8 solid weeks. To get away from a troubling home situation or for an academically challenged child to enjoy a break from a miserable school year is a priceless gift that only a camp can give. Unlike the Roshei Yeshivos of the better Mesivtahs who deal mostly with the “cream of the crop”, camp head counselors and learning directors are intimately involved with the nitty gritty of painful home and / or child situations of K’lal Yisrael and have indeed worked wonders with the children entrusted in their care. The benefits of them being in a summer camp environment cannot be overstated and has enduring positive effects. This is an undisputed, but often overlooked fact.

Desperate to save their camps, the camp owners tried negotiating with the Mesivtahs to perhaps somewhat delay the Elul Zman. Some learning directors even proposed adding another 45 minute learning Seder and a mandatory 20 minute Mussar Seder to the camp’s daily learning program. This they claimed would help simulate an Elul atmosphere within the camps and prepare their Talmidim for the upcoming Zman. But the Roshei Mesivtahs were adamant. No matter what, Yeshiva must begin on Rosh Chodesh. They were either unaware or unconcerned, that as a result, hundreds of Yeshiva kids would now be without counselors Yirei Shomayim and fine role models.

The camp directors then initiated meetings with the Gedolim to see how they could possibly help salvage the camps. The Gedolim were sympathetic, and several of them who themselves had experienced the benefits of camp, more than validated the argument that a Torah oriented summer camp can have a terrific effect on a child. Nevertheless, and despite their opinion that (in contrast to Eastern Europe) the hot summers of America with its treifineh streets are not equatable with an Elul Zman of yesteryear, they were reluctant to take on the Roshei Yeshivos to revert back to the original school / summer schedule. The reason being, their understanding all too well that no Rosh Yeshiva could begin Seder only on the week of Labor Day and still have his Yeshiva considered a “Shtarkeh Makom Torah”.

It was then that the camp owners came up with a brainstorm, the novel idea of ending the school year early and starting camp mid June, then ending camp mid August and beginning the next school year early as well. This would grant the camps the full 8 weeks for the children and the Bochrim, and then allow for the Elul Zman to begin promptly on Rosh Chodesh.

When this proposal was initially floated, it was understandably met with opposition from several important parties.

The elementary Yeshivos, for a number of reasons, but primarily due to staff and maintenance logistics, were not enthusiastic about altering their school calendar. Neither were they interested in forcing their Rebbes (some of them great Talmidei Chachamim themselves) to change their summer arrangements just so that some Yeshiva High Schools could have a “Choshiveh name” because they officially began Rosh Chodesh Elul. Getting secular studies teachers to come in mid August is practically impossible, and giving off English because of that, and allowing the children to be unoccupied in the afternoons would be a disaster as well.

The parents had their own problems with this new schedule. It would throw a wrench into any and all of their summer plans that necessarily must occur during July and August.

Also, If they have girls in the Bais Yaakov, they would now be in limbo since those schools were operating on the regular calendar. Parents would not be able to go up to the mountains or vacation early since the girls would still be in school and even be taking regents. Then they would also have to return to the city in mid August while the girls are still participating in the day camps of the country.

It is also questionable whether Bungalow colonies and estates were willing to accommodate and open two weeks earlier for a handful of people, something that would involve additional planning and expense. The idea of having Yeshiva boys hanging around the city during the mid August long afternoons while public school kids are off and roaming the streets was not something most parents were looking forward to either. All in all, this new idea was simply not feasible.

Nevertheless, a few, perhaps well meaning influential leaders in our community, decided to go ahead and implement this absurd plan. Using various methods of persuasion including the claim (in a circulated letter) that this is what the “Gedolim ordered”, they began promoting their agenda, and coercing the more timid principals in various schools to change over to this new schedule. Few were able to withstand the pressure and reluctantly consented.

The bandwagon effect will predictably cause other schools to follow suit. Parents are being forced into compliance despite the immense impracticality of this new arrangement. And, as we can expect, when the multitude of problems enumerated above come crashing down on us as a result of this upheaval, we will surely be left alone to cope with its consequences.

To conclude: The traditional summer structure was not broken. It balanced Chinuch, family life, and the well-being of children in a way that served generations successfully. Camps were not just a convenience; they were, and remain, a critical component of raising healthy, grounded Yiddishe children.

The so-called “summer calendar problems” we now face were self-inflicted due to the interference of individuals who have (unknowingly perhaps) placed personal ambitions over responsibility for the Klall. And the new ridiculous “solution” is now being championed by other individuals, some of them with similar personal interests as well.

While this new arrangement is officially being put into place only for the summers that clash with Elul, it is hard to believe that once such severe alterations are enforced and become tolerated, will we ever be able to revert to the original secure and predictable calendar schedule.

In today’s volatile world where stability is increasingly challenged, and with so many children and parents living on edge due to the nature of the times we live in, it would be wise for the sake of everyone’s mental wellbeing, to try and preserve whatever is left of consistency and permanence.

Therefore it should be obvious to any truly objective and caring person that before we rush to overhaul an entire system, we must ask ourselves: why exactly are we doing this? Are we truly improving things or are we sacrificing something essential in the process? Perhaps the time has come not for adjustment, but for honest and deep reflection.

And finally, let us all Daven that our leaders and educators are granted the wisdom and vision to guide us with honesty, foresight, compassion and sensitivity.

Sincerely,

Rabbi Elchonon Weinberg

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17 Responses

  1. I just get the feeling that if we embrace the changes as they come, instead of fighting tooth and nail to retain every old status quo, we will adjust to the new reality. This whole article just sounds like a list of complaints due to inability to accept that changes happen and that nothing (except our Torah) stays forever. Don’t reject everything new and different just ‘because it wasn’t like this before, it can’t possibly work better this way”

  2. Looks like a nice mess. It seems like everyone wants something else and most of it doesn’t make any sense. Ending earlier in June doesn’t make you a better Yeshiva though, you’re still losing out on that learning so what’s the difference

  3. Camps are NOT a lifesaver. They are a convenience at best. The amount of kids that are irreversibly damaged EACH summer in camps is staggering!

  4. Well written, but this kind of threw me off-kilter.

    “In today’s volatile world, where stability is increasingly challenged, and with so many children and parents living on edge due to the nature of the times we live in, it would be wise, for the sake of everyone’s mental well-being, to try and preserve whatever is left of consistency and permanence.”

    Are you serious? Find me any student whose stability would be challenged by school ending a week earlier than usual.

    In addition, many of your grievances seem somewhat overblown.

    a) When there is a two-week break between camp and the start of school, is that considered a disaster?
    b) Parents can look at the school calendar before making their summer plans.
    c) Will Bais Yaakov girls’ stability be challenged if they, too, end school a week earlier in June? What is the difficulty for the Bais Yaakovs to follow the yeshiva schedule?
    d)The assault on camps and vacations was brewing months ago, why would a Rebbe not take into account his Yeshivas scheduling hock before booking his vacation?

  5. To read this honestly, one has to confront a basic question: how central is the Eretz Yisroel yeshiva model to our overall chinuch?

    If we truly believe that sending our children there is essential, and that its calendar beginning in Elul reflects an ideal we are striving toward, then it makes sense that communities feel pressure to align with that standard.

    And we are already seeing that play out, with many mainstream mesivtas adjusting their start times accordingly this year, as Rosh Hashanah falls on September 5, pushing Elul into the middle of August. It is also worth noting that this is a relative anomaly within the calendar cycle, not the norm most years.

    But if, in practice, our children’s development depends on a broader system that includes stable summers, camps, and family structure, then we have to ask whether adopting that model wholesale really fits our reality.

    The question is not whether Elul matters, it certainly does. The question is whether we are making a thoughtful decision about how it fits into our lives, or simply following a trend without fully considering the cost.

  6. Crazy question, why can’t the camps adjust their schedule to Tamuz and Av.
    It not a bad idea of kids getting a month of school before Yomim Noraim

  7. Of course you’ll have a lot of commentators who can never understand what the big deal of this change is, for whatever small adjustment they think is necessary. But that’s just the problem. This is something that causes a domino effect. If you change A then B has to change and if you change B then C has to change…. and it goes right down the line. The initiators of this problem didn’t think or care about their effects; only what is good in their minds for them at that moment. So, can you find some tweaks to what the writer is saying? Undoubtedly you can, but it doesn’t take away the major issue raised.

  8. a few thoughts- bekitzur! – (30 plus years in the line)

    a long sincere letter touching on many issues each worthy of a whole discussion ( tone was passionate & many good points are in the previous comments.

    in 50+ years the yeshiva world dynamics have changed and the pieces dont add up anymore… THEN & NOW
    1. cost $$$ the summer season ( bung. etc.. is the single biggest expense draining the middle class.. you spent 30G on the summer and u have 15G- the extra 15G can never be repaid and becomes 100G on AMEX in 7 short years- every family can adjust the example kefee erech) a bochur learning camp 2G plus for a HALF!!- the price has tripled

    2. the camps of the 60,s and on CTV , aguda, naarim,munk, kol rena, hadar hatorah…were idealistic and did tons of kiruv, shabbos, halacha bowls..gedolim.. and deserve tremendous credit for saving the youth- today the kids camps are nothing to write home about ask any learning rebbe in a kids camp or colony-there are many reasons.. its not the camps fault at all.
    space- the lack of married staff sleeping quarters has had a ripple effect on the whole catskills , pushing the value of every inch to manhatten prices so an offgrounds rebbe getting 8000 doesnt even go home w a nickel, forget about the 8000 he needs to pay his daughter & son in their camp
    staff-most yeshivos dont let their bochurim be counselors.. so no counselors made no pirchei ,never a chance to be a role model & be mashpia.. made less equipped rabbeim- less skills , confidence so on a date not much of a person etc.. as reb elya svei zatzl told rabbi K. “ken es zein , mine einikels counlur hert goyishe moozik?” his answer was shick 10 gutte philly bochurim …

    finally your kid was in camp, chk off which of these reasonable activities did he do
    hold a paint brush, use a hammer, shlep a log, pitch a little tent on camp grounds around a fire.. peel one poatato, set a shabbos table, be mekarev an out of town boy,

    how many colonies .. cute kids with dangling tzitzis lining up to the pool at 1130 am and thats AFTER LEARNING groups?
    some changes are necessary.. with yishuv hadaas and its not as bad as i say everywhere
    but no civilization has 10 WEEKS OFF

  9. ראש-השנה of 2032 & 2089 falls out on Labor Day which hasn’t occurred since 1964.
    This article should also discuss how having the West Indian Parade along Eastern Parkway shall affect the מתפללים arriving at & departing from 770 on the Holy Day of ראש-השנה?

  10. I am nearly fifty years old. I attended multiple Yeshivos in America – highschool and post-highschool. All of them started Rosh Chodesh Elul. So I was kind of lost from the beginning.

  11. The issue not addressed is the dangers of bein Hazmanim in general. Why do even BM boys need two weeks off before peasach and one week off after? Do they need from YK to RC Cheshvon? Sadly they end up on road trips which leads to dangers in ruchnyuis and gashmuis. How about they have no bein hazmanim but 8 weeks or 7 weeks in the summer? Let them all go to structured camps like camp aguda where its safer and they can be creative? And then yes the younger boys gain too

  12. Anyone who has truly experienced a well-run overnight camp knows—it’s not just another summer program. It’s something else entirely. It’s transformative.

    I’ve watched it happen again and again. Boys walk into camp one way and leave different people. For many, it’s the first time they taste a real geshmak in learning. It’s where responsibility becomes real, where independence begins, where friendships are deep and lasting, and where boys learn how to think, solve problems, and grow.

    That kind of environment changes a life.

    So when someone dismisses camp or minimizes its impact, it’s pretty clear—they haven’t experienced the real thing.

    At the same time, we have to recognize something equally important. Klal Yisroel today is not what it was 30, 40, 50 years ago. Baruch Hashem, we’ve grown. Tremendously.

    Look around:
    – 12- and 13-year-old boys going on their own to the Beis Medrash at night
    – Programs like Avos U’Bonim, Dirshu, Oraysa—thriving and expanding
    – Thousands of kollel yungerleit
    – Tehillim groups, chesed initiatives—everywhere you turn

    The level of hasmodah and connection to Torah today is on an entirely different level than it once was. We are living in a דור of real רצון, real growth, real connection to Hashem.

    So of course yeshivos are going to respond to that.

    Just because a calendar worked in 1950—or even 1980—doesn’t mean it’s ideal today. When bochurim are shteiging, when there’s a genuine thirst for more learning, yeshivos should absolutely adjust to support that growth.

    And that brings us to the core point.

    Who decided that a certain summer schedule is “untouchable”? Who said those dates are kadosh? Why shouldn’t our calendar revolve around Elul, around Torah, around what matters most?

    Ending a bit earlier in June and starting earlier in August doesn’t take away vacation—it just re-centers priorities. It sends a message: Torah comes first.

    And let’s be honest—this isn’t random. This isn’t a grassroots idea. There was a letter, signed by many gedolim, calling for exactly this shift. Yeshivos that are adjusting are not being extreme—they are listening.

    It’s a beautiful thing. It’s a סימן of growth in Klal Yisroel.

    Too often, when people are uncomfortable with what the gedolim say, we hear the same tired responses:
    “They didn’t really sign it.”
    “They were misled.”

    At some point, we have to stop hiding behind that. If we believe in following gedolim, then we follow—even when it’s not perfectly convenient.

    And that’s why I believe parents have a role here.

    Parents should respectfully and thoughtfully reach out—to their daughters’ Bais Yaakovs, to camps—and ask them to align with the boys’ schedules.

    Not because it’s easy. It’s not.
    Not because it benefits the institutions. It often doesn’t.

    But because it’s what Klal Yisroel is being asked to do.

    When families show that this matters to them, that they value a calendar built around Torah and Elul—that carries weight.

    This isn’t about logistics. It’s about direction.
    And Baruch Hashem, we’re moving in the right one.

  13. @WhatsGoodForTheTalmidim
    You may make some good points but the fact that you had an AI write it for you even if you looked it over makes it ekeldik to read. Feh

    I think many people dont realize how obvious the AI writing style is

  14. The tone of this letter is way off. Saying that all these Rosh HaYeshivos care about is PR and looking better, is a horrible thing to say.

    But to the point, almost no learning goes on in most camps nowadays. Camp owners, who are making a load of money off these camps, pay embarrassing salaries to their Rabbeim. The camps pay the Rabeim between 1500 to 2000 a month. Then they tell them to rely on parents tips, who are already forking out a fortune for the summer.

    Many counselors come out making more in the summer than the Rabbeim.

    Most camps do not have proper shiur rooms either. The learning directors are also not the best at what they do.

    So camps can’t get good Rabeim to teach. Many times they have older bochurim, or unqualified Rabbeim who can barely get a word of Torah out in the mornings. In addition, camps nowadays have the boys up very late at night, and the kids who show home cannot focus even if they wanted to. The classrooms in most camps sound like a zoo.

    Besides for the pay, there is no sipuk for a Rebbi to teach in such an atmosphere.

    And for the parents who want to hire private Rabeim, most camps wont even allow that anymore. Too many boys were doing it. The classes were getting small, and there were not enough tips for the camp’s Rabeim.

    I don’t know what it used to be like. But nowadays, there is no argument that kids learn in the summer. The general ruach in many camps is also not what it used to be.

    If camp owners would start investing on their learning programs, by paying more and hiring more qualified Rabeim, and building real classrooms, then maybe there would be room for a conversation. But most camp owners will never do that.

    A camp Rebbi told me recently he can’t even hear his own voice in the shiur room. The camp he works for pays a little better and also guarantees more many in tips. So they shtoop 35+ kids into a tiny classroom, save money by having less Rabbeim, and each Rebbi gets more in tips based on volume.

  15. Revolving the entire summer schedule around Labor day is nothing short of Absolute חוקת-הגוי of the absolute Highest Magnitude.
    We revolve our summer around ראש-חודש אלול.

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