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I posted earlier something here that I was not sure is appropriate and seems that mods kindly agreed with that (unless the post was eaten by software). The conundrum here is – on one hand, some info may be considered Lashon Hara. On the other hand, pretending that everyone is on board here is also Hillul Hashem.
I am not sure how to resolve this. One possible solution would be not to mention questionable personalities at all, but that would keep their personality cult continue growing under the radar.
Bochur,
I think you have a very simplified version of what Zionists are saying (whether original or modern) based on something you heard from a friend who really does not like them. To claim intellectual honesty, you would need to find out more.As to Israeli intellectual honesty, I can quote one Israeli professor I knew: he was not observant himself, and his teenage son started making snide remarks about dosim. So, the father said – if you want to have an opinion about such weighty topics, you need to know what you are talking about, so go get a class. So, the son went to learn – and soon stopped eating at his father’s house. Now, things can happen with everyone, check the mezuzahs, etc, BUT when professor’s second son grew up, he repeated the same shpiel (knowing the risks!) – with the same result. Both of the sons are observant, one was an advisor to a right-wing Israeli government.
right, if I recall my calculation ^, after 244 iterations, you are below 1/60th and it will be botel beshishi, or in some cases we use 1/100 for botel, that would be power of 274
Chaim,
you need to match work plan with educational cost. If you plan on a fulltime job in finance, then it makes sense to get loans and graduate from Columbia. If you are planning on being a p/t accountant, then a local community or online college will be appropriate.you need to look at underlying causes of this worrisome trend to “making money”?
Are they involved in unregulated interstate commerce? Then, they may be picking up levush and accent from their mafia friends.
Are they getting, H’V, college education? Then, they start dropping Rs in Hahvahd …
Are they stam printing money at home? Then, they will stay “heimish”
Time to close this thread.
Chaim, if you indeed live in an unfortunate place with such values, maybe you should move to a more erliche place. In my humble experience, places where many people work professional jobs, there is less of showing off and the kids are less confused.
DaMoshe on tuition: jewish community is mostly neutral on this: Both parents and teachers belong to the community. So if tuition increased, it means a combination of increase in learning, decrease of class size, higher pay for teachers who belong to the same community, more people not paying tuition, higher overhead supporting administration who are also members of the community. So nobody from outside to blame
DaMoshe on housing costs: in 1965, average house size was 460 sq ft per person, now it is 1100. Go back to 500 sq ft per person and your costs will be cheaper
Ujm is a famous talmid of not a real Scotsman mesorah: define frum as Monsey, and then discover that all frummies live in Monsey
Chaim, I obviously meant borrowing at 2% earlier. General rule: assets go up during inflation, and printing money 💰 in the past several years was a good predictor of inflation. There was not much risk of borrowing at 2%. Of course, as you are saying, one should keep cash to make sure payments can be met during market fluctuations. This is all al pi Rambam who, I recall, recommends job and property before getting married.. there was probably more in the financial literacy shiur in your yeshiva, not sure why you missed that
Coffee, this ain’t that simple. Multiple sources are quoting the same April 2020 article as if it were new. Unlikely that many people made same mistake at the same time. So, your local paper editor copied this from somewhere
It is either someone did an innocent mistake and others quoted it or someone maliciously spread the information around. Second option is more likely: such wide propagation is usually based on original mass mailing. In either case, a simple lesson is to not trust anything online.Can you ask the paper where they source their stories. Let’s find out how disinformation travels.
Apparently, young Nehama Leibovitz told her father that she learned at school that one should behave better between Rosh Hashana and Yom Kippur. Her father replied that yes but one should also behave better between Yom Kippur and Rosh Hashana.
I agree that 2016 vote is Trump’s upper bound, but 2020 is his lower bound: Do you know people who changed their vote fro. T to B after watching B in office? But higher chsnce of B voters changing or not coming. So it will be a very close election.
And the main fight will not be changing votes of some Choni Hameogel but which side will show up. So even more Russian collusion and laptops from azazel
Ctl, so implement Romney care in CT, then NY, etc. I have no problem with that. Why make everything federal?
As to ec, who said one vote 🗳 is fundamental . Keeping agreements/contracts is fundamental. We call it bris … states agreed to a constitution and there should be no changes unless there’s an overwhelming agreement on the change.
This is like making a contract, and then saying disregard some Clauses, they were there just to make you sign it.
A simple remedy from a mild inflation is to hold property instead of cash. Borrow at 2% before inflation and then watch your property value inflate 5% annually.
Of course, you need some safety cushion in case feds raise rates too high leading to depression
Shimon, where is it in halocho that not paying debts is a mitzva?
I didn’t know liquor is osur on chol
Coffee ☕️ withdrawal after Yom Kippur causing sudden gullibility syndrome?
Gadolhadofy, my apologies, I think you are correcting me repeatedly on this story.
Qwerty > impress on people that Moshiach will bring all Jews together
Right. Maybe this is a way to evaluate claims. If the claims are divisive, they are not kosher and vice versa
Statistics of bad outcomes of divorces need to be compared not to the happy marriages, but to unhappy marriages that did not end in divorces.
One thing to consider: according to R Twersky, if one parent is abusive (including verbal) and the other parent does not stop the abuser (maybe because s/he can’t), children might later forgive the abuser (it was beyond his control) but blame the second parent for not standing up to it.
Marriages used to be grand affairs and bar mitzvas just shnapps with herring. Now, it reversed. How come?
Bar mitzvas used to be just the first time of putting tefillin on, now it may be, R’L, the only time – so deserves a huge celebration. Marriages, to the opposite, used to be once-a-lifetime …
DaMoshe > He did not see a healthy relationship between his parents,
R Pliskin addresses this in his book “Marriage” (highly recommend).
You ask such a person – did you ever witness a healthy family, but only a couple of days a year being a guest somewhere, majority of my memories are of unhealthy one.
Then, a solution: continuously play in your mind positive experiences you had, and then majority of your memories would be of healthy events and you can apply them to your family life.
ACA v RomneyCare. I am not an expert to judge whether these systems are similar or just a marketing trick by Obamacarers. But a clear difference is that RC was a state plan. If it was so successful, there would be other states creating similar ones. Obama could have promoted it in IL or DC (did he?).
Maybe after say 10-15 states did well, there would be some (weak) argument to have a federal system. Otherwise, it just does not sound true.
CTL,
so you feel suspicious of Trump’s victory because he relied on the venerable institution of electoral college? First, you obviously referee a game by the rules it is played. It would be silly to declare a victory in a basketball game to the team who possessed the ball more time or had less fouls. If the rules would be based on proportional vote, both sides would campaign differently and it would have been a different game.Furthermore, electoral college reflects an agreement that States reached in order to join together in a (highly successful) Union. Most people who argue for abolishing it are either ignorami or hope that others are. I am sure CTL is none of these, so maybe you can explain why you are trying to pressure citizens into abandoning it. Note that that agreement was achieved as a complicated peshara between multiple parties. Should serve as a good lesson in only making changes that only a large majority will be happy with.
On ACA: my experience as a small business owner is similar to Dr Pepper – huge increases in deductibles and gradual increase in premiums for business medical insurance. My overheads are tolerable only because my employees run huge salaries as professionals. I can’t imagine what is happening with small companies and low-tech employees. I presume they all use subsidized plans, so market is destroyed.
choices went from 4 to 2, or almost 1.
Duchening is not such a big deal, Sephardim do it daily chutz laaretz
Many people who post on political issues talk the way you’d never allow yourself on a Torah topic. Just saw an article in Jewish Action from someone in OU bemoaning the same thing. If you practiced to be objective and respectful to other opinions and to facts in your Torah learning, you should be able to use his skill when talking about other things. And if you can disregard facts in political discussions, there is a chance your Torah learning is also lacking.
It is also totally useless other than therapy – most of us read or heard political opinions in other media, hearing it once again on YWN will not change anyone’s opinion.
Arguing requires two sides. So, one side may choose not to argue and concentrate on other aspects of life. See Gemoras about Rav’s wife who would cook him a wrong dish, but he ate it up.
Maybe lack of a rebbe is the problem? If one spends time learning esoteric topics, he at minimum needs close personal guidance. Sichos are not sufficient
Last time rh was on shabbos, we got vaccine developed, but we also elected Biden who couldn’t find those vaccines in the oval room. We also got people upset that the government prevented them from making each other sick. Nebach. Be careful what you daven for.
Volozhin yeshiva did not provide meals, and Russian government also. Students ate at homes. If you want to be zoche to have a yeshiva in your town, feed yeshiva students in your house once a week like in olden days. You’ll get zechus Torah edited, the anti frum comments are getting quite offensive
Qwerty, r Kamenetsky said so because shiur b Ivrit showed that the yeshiva cared about klal Yisrael, allowing Sephardim to access these classes. THAT is a pre requisite for a movement to contain a potential moshiach
From this point of view, Chabad hugely qualifies due to their great work, but at the same time disqualifies with this silly partisanship… hope both Chabad and their critics fix their own problems and compete in caring for the klal rather than in putting each other down.People half joke about buying a lottery ticket to give Hashem a kli to support a tzaddik without an open nes. Day trading is even better
You shouldn’t say that you can’t succeed, as it says: if someone says I didn’t work and succeeded, don’t believe him. Extra competitive market establishes a baseline, so if you have an extra insight, coming more from wisdom than obvious daily numbers, try small or virtually without actual trades and see if your strategy works.
Ctl, you are sitting on great information: what are typical successful people these days and decades earlier?
It is an observation errr that one needs maxwell equations to trade. Simply, at some point physics phds had no path to productive employment and wall street started exploring numerical simulations instead of classical formulae. So having Monte Carlo methods on your resume allowed these physicists to ruin economy by their ignorance of economy. You would be better off knowing a specific industry, statistics, machine learning, finance, psychology, sociology and how to daven.
At the end, this is a marginally productive activity, yes efficient markets help society, but there are many other jobs that will have positive impact on Hashem’s world 🌎
torahlife > thinking takes time.
Indeed, see “Thinking, Fast and Slow” by Nobel Reb Daniel Kahneman
Gadol, this takes to the other thread about a proper balance between nigleh and nistar.
I am asking you to add housing as you might know better what it is.
But to address your concerns directly:
1) this was discussed during Gingrich’s welfare reform: many people were better off on welfare in a short term, leading to multi-generational decline and trap. Need to look beyond today’s money to the future.2) We, as a community, do a lot of things that are not most convenient – not work a day a week, eat overpriced food, abstain from our wives for part of the month. See Beitza 25 that this is all training of our middah of savlanut. So, we could do the right thing here if we were motivated. Maybe not as perfect as other chumros, but at least some.
Did at least some of R Salanter’s students spend a lot of time on mussar rather than gemora? This illustrates a difference between mussar/middos that might precede learning and kabbala that should come later.
Frankly, in our times, nigleh gives us so much new material: interactions w/ colleges, science, psychology, medicine, medinas isroel, etc I can not see getting to nistar until I am 80, bli neder
Is day trading karov to gambling? You are either a fool or a thief, and posul miedut?
This thread is closed for Yomin Naroim and will reopen when M[o|a]shiach comes, bemeheta b’yomenu.
But let me attempt to have the last vort: R Yaakov Kamenetsky when visiting EY, suggested that Moschiach will come from R Auerbach’s yeshiva because they had their top shiurim in Ivrit instead of usual Yiddish. This psak should clarify the issue.
FollowMe,
I just googled, healthy food per person is $3K/year based on a family of 4. So, $30K for a family of 10.
healthcare say $1.5K/month =$20K
clothing $20K/year
transportation $6K /year
taxes $5K
could you add housing in your area?
seems like 100K is tight but close enough, presuming 2nd spouse is taking care of schooling and cooking.Even more seriously, Mod, and thanks for a good question – I do have more problems with people dishonoring Torah (in some aspects) comparing with people who do not know ho to read or count. We already established here that this is not my chiddush but a straight-forward Rambam who is using stronger words than me hat you would probably not allow here. That later poskim are lenient about it does not change the inner truth of this position.
RebE > Also, when one visits the sick takes away 1/60 of their pain or illness. How many people must come to take away all the illness
244 or 274
RebE > when I will be sixty and she will be thirty being now twice as old
in our days, AI algorithm in the shidduch system simply puts an appointment in the calendar for Sep 13, 2043 (because Sep 12 2043 is shabbat)
DaMoshe,
when you have an opinion that mods think is not kosher (they went to the same schools everyone else did!) – you need to find an amorah to support it. Mods rarely censor amorahs.