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that’s funny, ja 🙂
This is interesting! Does anyone know what Chasidic group she identifies with?
Thank you! So nice of you to think of us in the northeast of the US 🙂 Personally, I’m thrilled with the snowstorm. It’s the first day school was cancelled for snow this year.
yehudayona: Of course you need to put in effort, but the TASC would be much simpler than getting a diploma from a bais yaakov. In fact, I know someone that doesn’t have a strong background in English and took the TASC without much preparation. She passed three sections and almost passed two. She is smart, but went to chassidish schools and didn’t really learn English there.
Anyway, I think OP mentioned she is from Lakewood.
DaasYochid: I don’t think ja is saying she wants someone who doesn’t care who they marry. I believe she’s trying to say that this is not an important factor for her, and if it is a deal breaker for a prospective match, she’s not interested.
However, she should be aware that it can put up some red flags in terms of work ethic and intelligence for shidduchim. That is, even if you aren’t lacking in the aforementioned qualities, the lack of a high school diploma can have a negative connotation to many people.
“Also i don’t think any of the type of jobs that i want would really require a diploma anyway!” – that’s good but many times people get jobs they don’t want for monetary reasons. You may regret closing that option for yourself.
rebshidduch: I’m in total agreement with you about the GED. Pardon me if I presented it as something ‘lesser’. All I was saying is that a GED is a good alternative to making up years of work, which would likely be more difficult.
In my opinion, since you’re still a teenager, you don’t know what you may decide to do in the future. Even if you’re absolutely sure you don’t want to go to college, seminary, or get a job requiring a high school diploma (which most jobs do, by the way), you still may need one out of necessity (that is, unless you come from an extremely wealthy family and have guaranteed financial support. Even then, money is easily lost.)
That being said, I know how difficult the work load is in bais yaakov schools, and if you think it’s too much, perhaps you could take a GED test. I know someone that took one, and it’s not nearly as hard as high school.
Good job with the non-text language 🙂 I’m a teenage girl and had a difficult time deciphering it in your previous posts lol.
lu: Alt right people are notoriously anti semitic, Steve Bannon for example. In fact, the term ‘alt right’ is their own form of political correctness. Many of them have fascist tendencies favor the ‘alt right’ term because it sounds better.
Please note that I’m NOT referring to the right wing in general. In fact, it seems like on each side far side of the political spectrum there’s anti semitism. Anti semitism is not exclusive to one political bent.
That’s what happens when a bunch of alt right folks take over the White House.
I don’t see how gaining five pounds would make someone look younger….
As someone that is the child of a convert in the orthodox Jewish community, I would advise you to think critically before you commit to converting. Although my mother made the right decision for herself, I can see that she struggled with culture shock. There are many wonderful people in our community, but there will be those that judge you because of your status. Depending on what type of community you see yourself in, you and your children can experience prejudice. When I was younger, I didn’t get into a judgmental type of school most probably because of my mother’s background. If you’re familiar at all with the way most orthodox Jews get married, know that some people may not want to date your children because of where you come from.
In no way is this post intended to put down the orthodox Jewish community. I’d like to reiterate that there are so many amazing people within it, and the bulk of them will admire you for your conversion. However, I do want you to know that once you convert, that doesn’t necessarily translate into unconditional acceptance from everyone.
IsTfT: Can you define your various liberal labels? I’m not sure what each of them stand for.
^^haha I was actually interested in politics and had clearly defined views way before high school. My earliest politics memory hapened when I was around eight or nine years old 🙂
My bais yaakov school gives us school on Friday and Sunday….
It’s not an aveirah to warn people about a molester – IT’S A MITZVAH!!!!!
Hm…I honestly don’t really eat much from mishloach manos.
The only thing I really eat is chocolate.
I really wish people would tone it down a bit. It’s not like people are eating everything they get. There’s lots of baal tashchis (monetary and food) going on.
It’s spelled inauguration…just sayin’January 18, 2017 12:52 am at 12:52 am in reply to: Making fun of college degrees that won't get you a job #1209476
“There are several other much cheaper ways to accomplish that, starting with your local public library.”
Yup, that’s what I’ve been doing since I could read. I read lots about things I want to study – neuroscience, politics, classic lit etc.
As awesome as books are, I can’t do hands on experiments and be involved in groundbreaking research. I also couldn’t ultimately work in certain fields without the degree.
It definitely has to be said. Thanks 🙂January 18, 2017 12:15 am at 12:15 am in reply to: Making fun of college degrees that won't get you a job #1209472
Neville ChaimBerlin: idealist here 🙂 I want to go to college to get a good job eventually (which I admit is entirely possible without a degree) AND to learn subjects that I’m interested in. College does provide certain learning opportunities unavailable otherwise. One thing I want to do is study neuroscience and do research in labs.
I go to a Bais Yaakov and we learn Julius Cesar and Macbeth. Probably because those are the ones that aren’t ‘inappropriate’. But even the ones that are aren’t explicit – it’s not like modern day books. I read Twelfth Night on my own. It has lots of people falling in love, but that’s all it says. And they all end up marrying, btw.
^ I wouldn’t criticize Shlomo. I’m surprised that didn’t get edited tbh.
interesting, Meno and CTLAWYER. thanks for informing me 🙂
It’s a calculus question
-nice! good point.
I read an interesting book that helped me get over my occasional social anxiety. It’s called Rejection Therapy by Jia Jiang.
but did older people say the same thing to the generation before this?
This is interesting. What if someone doesn’t know whether the parties involved are Jewish?
It shouldn’t be hard to get out of it. Just say something one side doesn’t want to hear during questioning and they’ll turn you away.
^^ I meant irrelevant to my specific question. And by harsh…it could have been worded a bit softer but I’m new to this site and I guess people don’t beat around the bush here. I’m sorry if it came out the wrong way. Thanks for the concern 🙂 I am close to several role models.
Perhaps we beat around the bush here for lighter issues. The reasons you listed for wanting a more open environment, the descriptions you gave of a BY lifestyle, and the fact that you would consider dorming in a secular college are serious issues. To be given a list of seminaries instead of pointing you to someone who could work with you on an appropriate direction, and perhaps repair some of the perspectives, was very alarming and resulted in a blunt, forthright comment. It was meant to jar, but not to hurt. Please consider speaking to someone face to face (not on here) who can hear you out and help you find a place that will serve, not accommodate, your spiritual needs.
Yes, I am concerned 🙂 Hatzlocho!!
lilmod ulelamaid: Thanks for all your help 🙂
I wasn’t feeling well for the remainder of my trip so I wasn’t able to check out the schools. I did look at their websites, though, and I’ll look into them further.
“By your posts it sounds like you would benefit from some serious face to face discussions with someone who can help you sort out some of your feelings and perspectives about religion and hashkofo.”
I second this!!
-wow, that’s harsh (and irrelevant btw)
Harsh? Suggesting you find someone to help you sort through your thoughts and views is hardly harsh. And changing directions in life based on what you want to leave behind is a valid reason to seek guidance. Calling it irrelevant just confirms the need.
Someone just recommended Tiferet. Any thoughts?
thanks for the advice, everyone!
lilmod ulelamaid: By liberal, I mean in terms of American politicians I’d vote democratic. I don’t agree with democrats on everything, but I do more so than with Republicans. Some issues I feel strongly about are the environment, raising minimum wage, and revoking Citizen’s United, to give you an idea about where I’m coming from. I’m not so knowledgeable on the middle east situation, so I don’t have a defined view.
As for Darchei Binah, hopefully this won’t get edited – is it a serious place?
Hi lilmod ulelamaid,
Thanks for the response.
I don’t know much about Michlalah, so thanks for the info.
Do you think Machon Raaya would be okay with me going away to college? They do have ‘bais yaakov’ tacked onto their name.
I may be wrong about the first two, please let me know if you have another perspective!
I will look into Tomer Devora and MMY. By RWMO, I assume you mean hashkafically and not politically?
You make a good point about MO vs. BY seminaries. It is definitely one of my concerns which is why I’m not so gung ho about the seminary idea. I think it may just annoy me like school did.
So, it sounds like you think I should go to seminary. Do you think the places you mentioned would be unanimously right wing politically? I don’t want to avoid other political opinions altogether, I just don’t think I can handle being the only one with certain views for another year. Also, I suppose seminaries have marriage focused classes – are they the kind of stuff I’ve heard in high school (support your hubby’s learning, passive female roles etc.)?
By the way, in terms of academics, I would love to have interesting Judaics classes, but I dislike the way most of high school was memorization. I would want a year without lots of pressure so that I’m not worn out when I get to college. At the same time, I do like learning and don’t want to be around people whose goal is to skip class.
edited again. Please keep in mind this is anonymous advice from someone never met you. By your posts it sounds like you would benefit from some serious face to face discussions with someone who can help you sort out some of your feelings and perspectives about religion and hashkofo. Hatzlacha Rabbi!