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Rav Moshe – “and you have not personally asked a sheila “.
That’s what I said as well. “Rav shopping? Nothing wrong with it as long as you follow the psak after the shaila has been asked of the Rav.”
So hello99, what do you mean by, “First of all NOT TRUE.” ?
To all you machmir guys:
If I told my Rav that I drank CS, he might not give me a high- five; but if I told him that I post on the internet, he would shoot me.
Rav shopping? Nothing wrong with it as long as you follow the psak after the shaila has been asked of the Rav.
I once called a famous Rav in Washington Heights with a shaila because I heard that he was maikle in a certain thing. To my surprise, he was not but I had to follow his psak since I asked him the question. Also, I once asked my Rav a shaila on the very sensitive and delicate matter and he told me that he was machmir in this inyan and that I should ask Rav____ because he had a different opinion which was l’kula.
What about chumra shopping; anything wrong with that, because that what a lot of you in the CR do?
Unless a minhag has been in your family for doros, you have the option to choose the way to go if there is a machlokes of poskim. There are no contradictions if you follow different posekim in separate matters, whether it’s l’kula or l’chumra.
When it doen’t affect the khal and you have a worthy posek to rely on, your Rav won’t intervene unless you ask.
From the FOOD and AGGICULTURE ORGANIZATION of the UNITED NATIONS:
Daas Yochid – “Gefilte fish is not a problem because the worms are ground up, and they become botel (no longer a berya).”
So, are you saying that you can eat ground up worms l’chatchila?
From the FOOD and AGGICULTURE ORGANIZATION of the UNITED NATIONS:
From the Star K website:
“Some Gedolei Eretz Yisroel have ruled that these worms are halachically prohibited and, therefore, those species of fish must be inspected prior to use.
Since we at Star-K strive to have our kosher certified products accepted by all kosher consumers, Rabbi Moshe Heinemann has instructed Star-K establishments and mashgichim that only the non-problematic fish be used.”
Rav Heinemann is not saying at this time that the fish are assur, only that he wants his hashgacha to be accepted without qualification by everyone and therefore only permitted this list of fish in his food establishments.
Daas Yochid – “…but why should anyone follow…Rav Belsky?
More people follow and rely on Rav Belsky and the OU than all of your other poskim combined.
– Why according to the Fish Asurers, is Gefilte Fish, without stating the type of fish in the ingredients, ok?
Daas Yochid = “maybe they were dewormed!”
Herring doesn’t get dewormed.
hello99, and rov of our poskim here say that “this and this” is the not case, so therefore, it’s not assur.
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When in doubt, check with the Poskim and Rabbonim of your dor and local.
When in doubt, check with the Poskim and Rabbonim of your dor and local.
TMB – “A more formal definition of Baal Nefesh…In Pesachim 40a where the Gemara says in a particular case of chametz, that for a baal nefesh it is assur..”
Rav Nachman, Rav Huna, and Rabba bar Avuah held that grain could be washed.
So are you saying that Rav Nachman, Rav Huna, and Rabba bar Avuah were not frum enough since they did not consider themselves to be a Baal Nefesh?
And TMB, what besides CY does a Baal Nefesh abstain from? And is a Baal Nefesh MACHMIR on HIMSELF all the time?
So according to Rav Moshe, if this is the definition of who you are, you should be machmir. But says, Rav Moshe, regular milk of dairy companies are muter without any doubt and he says that one should not criticize anyone from drinking it.
what’s a baal nefesh?
“I HEARD he once threw up when he heard he may have inadvertently drunk CS.”
Trying my best – “I don’t think Rav Moshe personally drank CS even if CY wasn’t on the table”
Wrong.
Also, someone should have told all the great Roshei Yeshiva and Rabbonim who were at the wonderful Kiddush that I was at on Shabbos, that they should not to eat the herring and other fish they seemed to be enjoying. It seems that they do rely on Rav Belsky.
fabie – “The words of Reb Moishe are, “I personally am Machmir, and a Ba’al Nefesh should be Machmir.””
But Rav Moshe did drink CS when CY was not on the table. So what does machmir mean and what does Baal Nefesh mean? It means if it’s convenient, use CY, but you don’t have to go out of your way.
hereorthere – “Did they use those exact words?”
In answer to a shaila about buying chalav stam, they said it could be purchased L’chatchila. I would assume that if someone asked them if they could drink chalav yisroel milk, Rav Dovid or Rav Reuven Feinstein would paskin that CY could be drunk L’chatchila; but I don’t know the exact words they would use.
No, hello99, you are avoiding my point. Are you saying that one cannot rely on Rav Belsky?
And actually, halacha is regional, as in “minhag hamakom”.
Are Golden Flow milk; Mehadrin milk; Shop Rite milk EXACTLY the same? NO.
Are they all considered Cholav Yisroel milk by Rav Moshe? YES.
Rav Dovid and Rav Reuven Feinstein, Rav Moshe’s two sons, paskin that one may purchase Chalav Stamm milk L’chatchila; so who’s got bigger shoulders?
hello99 – “The majority of Gedolei HaPoskim have forbidden these worms”
You still haven’t listed the Gedolei Haposkim of America who forbade the fish.
If Rav Belsky is willing to “take the risk” on an issur d’oraisa; count me in too.
WolfishMusings – “what’s your definition of “frum” as it is to be understood today?’
It requires some thought but certainly it would be a sham for a rabbi to consider himself frum unless he is a yiras shamayim, follows the shulchan aruch, is humble enough to respect and not alter the mesorah, recognize that you are not on par with the great g’dolim and poskim of the past and present, and have a Rav to ask shailos and eitzos as in “aseh l’cha Rav”.
“just has to show a separation between the two sides”
How much is “just”?
I don’t think his “machitza” is apparent in terms of acting as a separator since the physical proximity of the men and women is extremely close.
“If someone is 100% shomer shabbos, strictly kosher, and the woman he married goes to mikveh regularly, he is frum. If he is also careful in his financial and social dealings with people, he is frum.”
There’s just a little more to it than that. According to this definition, Korach was the frumest of the frum.
“some are machmir” – that’s ok with me; if some consider it a chumra, the sky’s the limit.
“and if you want to be safe there is a simple solution to buy Norwegian.”
Again, when I hear it from Rav Belsky; then I’ll want to be safe.
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“There is no shul I’ve ever seen that follows every halachah…Is there a shul anywhere that really has no talking, ever”
Yes, there are numerous shuls that follow every halacha and that have really no talking whatsoever; including my own.
“is a member in good standing of the Rabbinical Council of America”
So what’s all the fuss about? Why was Avi Weiss nearly thrown out of the RCA and had to agree to change shul policy to stay in?
“with mechitzahs separating the men from the women”
Trying my best – if that were the case, then CS would not be ok at all.
Also, the yotze v’nichnas mashgiach is believed to say that the milk in the restaurant is cholov yisroel, even though he’s not there all the time, did not see the CY milk when it was purchased, and the chef can substitute other milk when the mashgiach is not around.
hello99 – Are you saying that we can not rely on Rav Belsky?
hereorthere – please don’t put words into my mouth; since there is lots of back-up that CS is ok so I, as “in my opinion”, have a s’vara whereby hashgacha on milk attests that it is kosher as does a Jew who claims that he saw all the cows being milked.
Many restaurants and most retail kosher products; the hashgacha is on a “yotze v’nichnas” basis. The mashgiach pops in unannounced from time to time. This is what Rav Gornish does as well.
What’s the difference if the OU attests that certain milk is kosher or if Chaim Yankel (who we believe to say he saw the cow milked), claims it’s kosher? Once milk has hashgacha that verifies the milk’s kosher status, in my opinion, that milk is chalav yisroel.
koma – “In Rav Vai’s book, there are full color pics of what to look for. And there are very visible parasites.”
Do you think Rav Belsky doesn’t know about these in full color parasites? Do you think none of our g’dolim and poskim, past and present, needed to read this book in order to know what to look for?
Why is it that this entire thread is an attack on our holy women when in fact there is much criticism to be leveled at men.
So let have the men dress and groom themselves in the neat clean fashion that is expected of us before giving musser to others, so that we can create a Kiddush Hashem and not Chas V’sholom a Chillul Hashem.
Many erlich men take off their glasses when walking outside or in the proximity of women, so no problem for them.
I don’t know of American poskim who say there’s a problem.
Rav Moshe stated that any shaila to Rav Moshe that needed to be paskined could be asked of Rav Dovid, hainu hach, same thing
Whoa! A total deleat! It’s too bad ’cause the post was true to the point; just not PC.
And you can add KAJ and Weismandl since they are in the same boat as the others according to the Rav.
hereorthere – “Rabbi Grones is a very well respected Rav in the New York Flatbush area. Last week he told me very clearly…”
You don’t have to believe me, since you are in contact with the Rav, you can ask him directly and report back.
The big 5 were already identified: OU; OK; Chaf K; CRC (Chicago); Star K
“after going to koldkuts for chulent at midnight…I can’t fall asleep”
I’m not surprised that you can’t fall asleep after a midnight chulent meal, but I am surprised that you can wake up. Boruch m’chaye ha’meisim.
D a – Fill up your other leg.
Drink a tall glass of water before bed; you will hear the alarm.
hereorthere – I would love to respond to the questions but quite frankly, I don’t understand them. I don’t know if it’s just me, or others too?
Here’s another sure method:
I heard from Rav Sheinberg that learning in bed will definitely get you to fall asleep since the Satan does not want you to learn. And Uri in Jerusalem is correct, I never remember getting past the first few minutes of a shiur when I’m trying to go to sleep (there are b”h many Torah sites to chooses from).
hereorthere – “Unlike you, I did not ‘assume’ anything.”
Years ago EVERYONE, including Rav Gornish, accepted and used the “Big Five” hashgachos; so we have every right to assume that Rav Moshe did also, especially since his Yeshiva and his family did.