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That isn’t how I read it.
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Pigs aren’t assur b’hana’ah. (not even saliva)
Neither is stam yeinam.
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It ocurrs to me that maybe the minhag is to follow the ??”?.
Pigs aren’t assur b’hana’ah. (not even saliva)
1) Machlokes. See Rama YD 123 1. (Link above)
2) Tovas hana’ah, such as giving away to a different business associate, would be assur, and that’s not tangible.
I don’t know that that would definitely apply here, I need to look that up.
Is it a hefsed merubah to not keep it on your desk?
Is starting a troll thread about it considered getting hana’ah?
Is not starting a troll thread about it a hefsed merubah?
If anyone is interested in how Rav Dessler held shidduchim should work, see Michtav M’Eliyahu Vol. 1 pages 73-74.
He says that 50-60 years earlier (this was written in ?”?), the parents chose the spouse, and that it made for more successful marriages.
and frankly the Charedi are more committed than the more modern who according to Pew have a higher leaving rate than the Charedim
Had I said that, I wonder what the reaction would have been…
I give you a lot of credit for that. Kudos, ZD.
the charedi world is basically doomed
That’s what they said about all Orthodoxy a number of decades ago…
Semantics, no?
As far as Gavra being a racist, it was supposed to be popa_bar_abba pointing that out.
You might be right, but I think they feel the other negatives compel them to not give it their stamp of approval.
Aren’t there a number if yeshivos nowadays which approve if their students going to Touro? Do those rebbeim give guidance?
What about Ner Yisroel?
According to the Internet, his mother’s name was Miriam.
*admitting defeat to trying to explain to shallow people their wrongdoings*
Do you think Hashem read that insult?
South of UT.
Polygamy used to be legal there. That would also solve the shidduch crisis, you know…
Wolf, you must be a vegitarianist. 🙂
Hashemisreading, Wolf is correct, and furthermore, even if you are correct, if you can’t answer the questions on your position, you probably shouldn’t be the one trying to convince others.
I didnt say you’re wrong; I’m asking you why you think you’re right.
That’s also not a good mashal, because the reasons to believe that Hashem runs the world are more compelling than the kashyas, but you haven’t given a compelling reason that you’re right here.
If you don’t have a good answer, why do you think you’re right?
Perhaps you’re right, although you don’t have a good answer, but why would you think so?
but then you’ll say a book also has that potential, which unfortunately I don’t have an answer for.
If you don’t have an answer, then perhaps you should consider that you are wrong.
After adjusting for the cultural difference defined as that they do beshows and we don’t?
Yes, although that is probably indeed the biggest cultural difference here.
Popa:
So I’m not sure what we disagree about.
Let’s try this: Do you think there are cultural differences which would make beshows a much worse idea for Litvish families than for chassidish families?
I am completely unfamiliar with the school board situation in the Five Towns, and I am not in regular contact with Rabbi Bender (not sure where you got that from).
I think you might be in better position to answer than I am.
I know.
Then you wouldn’t be curious.
Does this mean that you agree that you have no reason to believe skin color biased any decisions?
As I tried to subtly point out before, I think you were being unfair to him earlier.
ZD, that’s not the only reason.
I think it would work just as well for us as it does for them.
If I’m reading you correctly, you buy in to the classic Litvish thinking that chassidim have worse marriages than Litvaks.
I don’t.
As for job creation, whether or not you get the mitzva would depend on the machloket regarding whether or not mitzvot require intent.
Even for mitzvos bein adam lachaveiro?
The device itself is capable of accessing the internet.
Production costs.
Mechanics aren’t in the business of reducing the number of AAA members.
Popa,
So why do you think beshows wouldn’t work for us?
I’m not saying it’s because we have different relationships.
I don’t think I’ve commented on the different types of relationships we may or may not have – that was Joseph misunderstanding me.
I think there’s a different expectation for how well we will know our future spouses before we get married, and a different level of relying on parents to help choose the spouse, and then to help the young couple adjust to married life.
Therefore, they can do beshows where it’s a 75% “arranged” marriage, and they can both be 18-20 years old.
Therefore, there are a higher percentage of them getting married, and no real age gap causing a disproportionate number of girls to boys, therefore no shidduch crisis according to definitions #1 and #4.
Perhaps. Do you think we could do shidduchim the same way the chassidim do?
As has been discussed, the mechiyas hasheim issue depends on the type of technology, and although you’re correct that the technogy used on most devices would allow it according to most poskim, your reasoning is incorrect as far as I know.
Joseph: DY’s quote was a different context.
Correct.
DY–do you think that difference would lead to beshows vs dating?
Yes, not just the beshows themselves, but the whole process, in which most of the decision is made by the parents, with the chosson/kallah basically just having veto power. It would be a disaster in the Litvish community, but works (on the whole) for the chassidish communities.
In choice of spouse, not in the marriage itself. I don’t recall ever talking about expectations in the marriage.
You can have the floor back now.
I didn’t say it does, and the comment of mine which you quoted doesn’t relate to the shidduch crisis.
Vegetarians are against the Steak of Israel.
Chassidim can get married younger because there is more parental support (I don’t just mean financial) in the first couple of years.
There are also fewer expectations because there is less exposure (in many cases) to secular culture.
Theres no internet on your tape deck in your car.
If there was, then I shouldn’t listen to a shiur while driving?
RebYidd: they all gave the potential of being loaded with garbage.
As zahavasdad pointed out, printed materials can also contain garbage. I understand the dangers of portable internet connectivity, but that doesn’t seem to be your issue.
Given a choice, I prefer learning from a sefer, but that’s my personal preference.
I’ve seen serious talmidei chachomim using a laptop with Otzar Hachochma in the bais medrash.
If someone can have thousands of seforim available in portable format or an Artscroll Shas for someone who benefits from that, it could enhance his learning, and in my opinion is not much different than listening to a shiur in the car. Even granting that a paper sefer is better, the portable electronic device makes the seforim available when the paper version is not.
A rising tide lifts all boats. If people who have decent jobs do better they buy more. This creates more jobs.They can also give more to those who cannot work.
Okay, but what Avram is talking about, helping a Jew get a job, is what we normally associate with the mitzvah of “vehechezakta bo”.
the current NYC school board president, who happens to be white
Racist
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http://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=33182&st=&pgnum=198
Verizon Wireless default ringtone, yes.
The only thing fishy is someone posting probable motzi shem ra without knowing facts.
You mean v’hiyisem n’ki’im. Maris ayin is actual issur, and we don’t make our own gezeiros, but your essential point is correct.
Funny thing is, I don’t think the OP was referring to frum people in particular (I assume “forum” was autocorrected from “frum” in your post).
Excellence, I vote that post overreaction of the year.
And there have been some huge overreactions lately…
The Gemara uses both definitions for tefillin.
Of course you don’t want to shame them, but why do you want to use the term food stamps if that will shame them?