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volvie-
Walking into McD’s is the stereotypical “maris ayin” situation we discuss in yeshiva.
Personally, if I saw an obviously frum person going into one, I’d assume it was for a coke, the restroom, etc.
It would probably be a good idea not to eat a KD hamburger in their lot while using their wifi.
smartcookie-
Thank you for the kind words (again).
The motivations are:
a) Saving money.
b) Making sure I get the right part / program / device.
c) Saving time.
The McDonalds website says “For Technical Support, please call 1-877-MCD-WIFI (1-877-623-9434)”.
That’s an AT&T number.
The person who answered said “sure, no problem – you can sit in the parking lot and use it” when asked if a non-customer could use the signal.
Calling 1-800-244-6227 (the McDonalds toll-free “contact us” number) produced this answer: “yes, people outside the restaurant pick up and use the signal”. When asked explicitly if that was OK, the response was “uhhh – maybe ask that specific franchise”.
Here are factors I can see playing a role:
1) Does it cost McD extra money?
2) Does it degrade service for other customers?
3) Are they happy to have you use it anyway, for goodwill (and the fact that when you logon they advertise via the splash screen)?
4) If you occasionally pop in and buy a soda or coffee it may be worth it for them.
5) If you potentially may pop in and buy a soda or coffee it may be worth it for them.
volvie–
I haven’t used Norton for a few years. About 3 – 4 years ago many reviewers complained that it bogged down their machines, but over the last couple of years reviewers say that it’s been streamlined and pretty much fixed. Personally, I’ve had issues with the installations of ZoneAlarm and Norton, while McAfee had its recent well-publicized issue of mistaking a key Windows component for a virus and deleting it. Bottom line – there’s no perfect antivirus, but all that we’ve mentioned are good.
One additional advantage I forgot to mention that a commercial program may have is that they may have updates for the latest high-profile virus more quickly, due to their number of employees and their interest in retaining their customers.
kapusta–
If your system is already infected it gets tricky.
You may be able to run antivirus programs, but they might not work properly.
Sometimes booting into safe mode can help.
Sometimes you can boot from another device and run antivirus from there.
Worst case scenario, sometimes the infected drive can be connected to an uninfected computer as a second hard drive and disinfected from there. Be VERY careful if using this method that you don’t infect the clean computer.
Please see my reply to “dov717”, below.
None of the programs discussed here should disrupt or noticeably slow your internet connection, although you may want to tweak some AVG settings if you find it overly intrusive.
dov717–
Malwarebytes is something I used once, on a computer infected with the fake antivirus program “Antivirus XP 2010”.
“Antivirus XP 2010” is a sneaky program that disguises itself as an antivirus program, pops up all kinds of dire warnings, such as “your information is being stolen right now!”, steals the windows security center’s colors and logo, and won’t let many programs, including legit antivirus, run. It claims that it will “fix” the “viruses” it found if you send them money, but all that happens is that they take your money.
I had to download two files on a clean computer; the first was a registry-altering file (just to allow the malwarebytes program to run) and the second was malwarebytes. The files were then burned to a CD, and brought to the infected PC. After malwarebytes ran for about an hour, all the while “Antivirus XP 2010” kicking up its fake warnings, I was prompted to restart the computer. It was completely disinfected, which was very nice to see.
volvie-
Why your preference for AVG over avast (also free)?
It isn’t a preference; it’s a recommendation based on personal use. AVG is one I use, so I can recommend it first-hand. Avast is also highly rated (it has slightly higher user ratings on the CNET page I referenced), but I’ve never used it.
Can you comment on avast?
Not based on my own experience, but it’s highly rated by both pros and users.
And how they compare to the commercial anti-virus programs (Norton, McAfee).
For virus-checking, I think they’re comparable.
Is there any benefit using a commercial program for the anti-spyware or firewall (compared to the free programs)?
-Symantec (Norton), McAfee, and ZoneLabs commercial programs include antivirus, anti-spyware and firewall all in one.
-In my experience, they also have a higher level of customer support than the free programs do.
For the above two reasons, they may be simpler to use, and a better choice for someone who isn’t interested in potchking with multiple programs, or doesn’t know much about PCs. Also, some vendors will throw in a subscription to one of the above packages when you buy a new computer.
As far as protecting your computer, I think you can do just fine with the free programs.
A computer which accesses the internet needs three security components:
1) Antivirus
2) Anti-spyware
3) A firewall
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/vista-windows-explorer-freezing-up
To see a comparison of free antivurus apps, I recommend a look at this page:
http://download.cnet.com/2797-2023_4-371.html?tag=mncol;txt
A computer that suddenly shuts down can be caused by many issues, including hardware.
The site looks more businesslike and professional at first glance.
The redesign has clearly had a lot of planning and work put into it.
A few requests, suggestions and comments:
Main Page
-If the main news section could be expanded to more than five stories that would be nice. I like a prior poster’s idea of keeping all news of that day on the main page.
-Number of comments is something people like to see.
-The Israeli / US news sections could also use expansion.
-Headings should not be truncated.
Coffee Room
-If the formatting issue can be resolved, a restoration of forty items per page and forty threads shown on the main CR page would be nice. Dare I request fifty?
-The color for active URLs should be different from other text.
-The color for previously accessed URLs should be different from ones not yet clicked on.
-Can threads which dropped off of the main CR page be accessed in chronological order (add Prev and Next buttons)?
Hatzlocha raba.
Gut Shabbos
The kapitlach were done, but finished bain hashmoshos.
April 30 historic events
1006 Supernova SN 1006, the brightest supernova in recorded history, appears in the constellation Lupus.
1492 Spain gives Christopher Columbus his commission of exploration.
1563 Jews are expelled from France by order of Charles VI.
1789 On the balcony of Federal Hall on Wall Street in New York City, George Washington takes the oath of office to become the first elected President of the United States.
A statue of Washington stands on that spot in lower Manhattan.
1803 Louisiana Purchase: The United States purchases the Louisiana Territory from France for $15 million, more than doubling the size of the young nation.
A great bargain, to be quite franc. Merci.
1900 Hawaii becomes a territory of the United States, with Sanford B. Dole as governor.
Dole and other rich businessmen basically stole Hawaii out from under its former king, and later, its queen.
1900 Casey Jones dies in a train wreck in Vaughn, Mississippi, while trying to make up time on the Cannonball Express.
1927 The Federal Industrial Institute for Women, opens in Alderson, West Virginia, as the first women’s federal prison in the United States.
1943 World War II: Operation Mincemeat: The submarine HMS Seraph surfaces in the Mediterranean Sea off the coast of Spain to deposit a dead man planted with false invasion plans and dressed as a British military intelligence officer.
1947 In Nevada, the Boulder Dam is renamed Hoover Dam a second time.
1952 Anne Frank’s diary is published in English. The British public gets the chance to read The Diary of a Young Girl, written by Anne Frank who hid from the Nazis in Holland during the war.
1956 Former Vice President and Senator Alben Barkley dies during a speech in Virginia. He collapses after proclaiming “I would rather be a servant in the house of the lord than sit in the seats of the mighty.”
1973 Watergate Scandal: U.S. President Richard Nixon announces that top White House aids H.R. Haldeman, John Ehrlichman and others have resigned.
1975 Fall of Saigon: Communist forces gain control of Saigon. The Vietnam War formally ends with the unconditional surrender of South Vietnamese president Duong Van Minh.
1987 New York Islander Mike Bossy plays his final game.
The four-time Stanley Cup champion and hockey hall-of-famer had to retire at 30, due to a bad back.
1993 CERN announces World Wide Web protocols will be free.
1993 The world number one women’s tennis player, Monica Seles, is stabbed in the back during a quarter-final match in Hamburg.
1995 After 120 years the last 15 A&S (Abraham and Strauss) department stores close.
2001 Chandra Levy, a federal government intern, went missing. Her remains were found more than a year later in a Washington, D.C., park.
Levy’s disapearance and her association with Congressman Gary Condit dominated headlines for months in 2001, until Sept. 11. Levy’s remains were found about a year later. The crime remains unsolved.
2008 Skeletal remains found near Ekaterinburg, Russia are confirmed by Russian scientists to be the remains of Alexei Nikolaevich, Tsarevich of Russia and one of his sisters.
Gut Shabbos
Thank you for the edit.
d a-
Good point. To avoid confusion, I should’ve put “(the following was copied from a different thread)” at the beginning of the post.
(the following was copied from a different and earlier thread)
This morning I witnessed a woman getting struck from behind and knocked down by an SUV.
She was walking in the street with her back to traffic.
The SUV driver was talking on his cell phone while driving.
YW Moderator-80-
It’s my pleasure to add my laypersons knowledge to this thread.
I am also enjoying learning new stuff from the pros and those who may not be pros but know more than I do on this subject.
A few questions:
-Did you turn off and restart the computer? (sometimes doing the obvious can work)
-What version of Windows are you running?
-Do you have up-to-date antivirus? (a virus can cause this or other problems)
-Can you start the program by entering taskmgr.exe at the run command? (let’s see if you can run the program a different way)
-How much memory does the computer have? (maybe the computer is too “overwhelmed” to start another program)
-How old is the computer?
I suggest you Google “cant start task manager” (sans quotes) for suggestions and ideas.
You may simply need to change some settings. Some sites give step-by-step instructions for changing settings, with pictures.
April 29 historic events
711 Islamic conquest of Hispania: Moorish troops led by Tariq ibn-Ziyad land at Gibraltar to begin their invasion of the Iberian Peninsula (Al-Andalus).
1903 A 30 million cubic-metre landslide kills 70 in Frank, Alberta, Canada.
1945 The Dachau concentration camp is liberated by United States troops.
1946 Former Prime Minister of Japan Hideki Tojo and 28 former Japanese leaders are indicted for war crimes.
Tojo was among those convicted and executed for war crimes.
1967 After refusing induction into the United States Army the day before (citing religious reasons), Muhammad Ali is stripped of his boxing title.
1970 Vietnam War: United States and South Vietnamese forces invade Cambodia to hunt Viet Cong.
1974 Watergate Scandal: President Richard Nixon announces the release of edited transcripts of White House tape recordings related to the scandal.
1975 Vietnam War: Operation Frequent Wind: The U.S. begins to evacuate U.S. citizens from Saigon prior to an expected North Vietnamese takeover. U.S. involvement in the war comes to an end.
1986 A fire at the Central library of the City of Los Angeles Public Library damages or destroys 400,000 books and other items.
“Fahrenheit 451” wasn’t just a book title in that library.
1991 A cyclone strikes the Chittagong district of southeastern Bangladesh with winds of around 155 mph, killing at least 138,000 people and leaving as many as 10 million homeless.
1992 1992 Los Angeles riots: Riots in Los Angeles, California, following the acquittal of police officers charged with excessive force in the beating of Rodney King. Over the next three days 53 people are killed and hundreds of buildings are destroyed.
That week the rioting spread across the country to several other cities, including Atlanta, where there were several episodes.
2002 The United States is re-elected to the United Nations Commission on Human Rights, one year after losing the seat that it had held for 50 years.
It has since been replaced by the United Nations Human Rights Council. This is the body that commissioned the Goldstone report. Among other countries tasked with monitoring human rights across the world are Saudi Arabia, Egypt, China, Russia, Pakistan, Jordan and Cuba.
2004 Oldsmobile builds its final car ending 107 years of production.
2005 Syria completes withdrawal from Lebanon, ending 29 years of occupation.
April 28 historic events
1789 Mutiny on the Bounty: Captain William Bligh and 18 sailors are set adrift and the rebel crew returns to Tahiti briefly and then sets sail for Pitcairn Island.
Many descendents of the mutineers still live today on tiny, remote, peaceful Pitcairn island. Some of them have the surnames of their mutinous ancestors.
1945 Benito Mussolini and his companion Clara Petacci are executed by a firing squad consisting of members of the Italian resistance movement.
1947 Thor Heyerdahl and five crew mates set out from Peru on a balsa wood raft named Kon-Tiki to prove that Peruvian natives could have settled Polynesia.
The book recounting the voyage – “Kon-Tiki” – was a best seller.
1986 The United States Navy aircraft carrier USS Enterprise becomes the first nuclear-powered aircraft carrier to transit the Suez Canal, navigating from the Red Sea to the Mediterranean Sea to relieve the USS Coral Sea.
1988 Near Maui, Hawaii, flight attendant Clarabelle “C.B.” Lansing is blown out of Aloha Flight 243, a Boeing 737, and falls to her death when part of the plane’s fuselage rips open in mid-flight.
The top of large section of the passenger area blew off of the plane. Lansing was the only casualty, as the passengers were able to remain safely in their seats. Photos of the plane show the passenger compartment completely exposed in the damaged section.
1994 Former C.I.A. official Aldrich Ames pleads guilty to giving U.S. secrets to the Soviet Union and later Russia. He was sentenced to life in prison without parole.
He one of the most damaging spies in U.S. history, exposing dozens of U.S. spies in the Soviet Union, including top ranking officers. After the Soviet Union ceased to exist, he continued spying for Russia.
2001 Billionaire Dennis Tito becomes the world’s first space tourist.
Russia desperately needed cash. Tito dreamed of traveling to space. $20,000,000 later, a shidduch was made.
2003 Apple Computer Inc. launched the iTunes store.
…aka “obtained their license to print money”.
2009 Sen. Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania switched from the Republican to the Democratic Party.
…thus returning to the party he had deserted nearly 35 years previously. Ahhh, politicians!
April 27 historic events
1521 Battle of Mactan: Explorer Ferdinand Magellan is killed by natives in the Philippines led by chief Lapu-Lapu.
1773 The Parliament of Great Britain passes the Tea Act, designed to save the British East India Company by granting it a monopoly on the North American tea trade.
1805 First Barbary War: United States Marines and Berbers attack the Tripolitan city of Derna (The “shores of Tripoli” part of the Marines’ hymn).
1813 War of 1812: United States troops capture the capital of Upper Canada, York (present day Toronto, Canada).
Britain returned the favor by capturing and burning Washington, DC.
1861 President of the United States Abraham Lincoln suspends the writ of habeas corpus.
Even the Great Emancipator recognized that in a time of war some freedoms may need to be suspended.
1865 The steamboat Sultana, carrying 2,400 passengers, explodes and sinks in the Mississippi River, killing 1,700, most of whom are Union survivors of the Andersonville and Cahaba Prisons.
This was the worst shipwreck in U.S. history. More people died in this sinking than in the sinking of the Titanic.
1945 World War II: Benito Mussolini is arrested by Italian partisans in Dongo, while attempting escape disguised as a German soldier.
1947 “Babe Ruth Day” at Yankee Stadium was held to honor the ailing baseball star.
He was dying of throat cancer at the time. He was barely able to speak, and told fans that he knew he didn’t look too good, and he didn’t feel too good either.
1950 Apartheid: In South Africa, the Group Areas Act is passed formally segregating races.
1967 Expo 67 officially opens in Montreal, Canada with a large opening ceremony broadcast around the world. It opens to the public the next day.
The Montreal Expos (now the Washington Nationals) were named in commemoration of this event.
1972 Apollo 16 returned to Earth after a manned voyage to the moon.
1974 10,000 march in Washington, D.C., calling for the impeachment of US President Richard Nixon.
1981 Xerox PARC introduces the computer mouse.
We haven’t seen “Squeak” around in a while. If you’re reading this, why not drop in and say hello?
1987 The U.S. Department of Justice bars the Austrian President Kurt Waldheim from entering the United States, saying he had aided in the deportation and execution of thousands of Jews and others as a German Army officer during World War II.
Ed Koch declared that Kurt had “Waldheimers disease” – forgetting one’s nazi past.
1993 All members of the Zambia national football team lose their lives in a plane crash off Libreville, Gabon in route to Dakar, Senegal to play a 1994 FIFA World Cup qualifying match against Senegal.
1994 South African general election, 1994: The first democratic general election in South Africa, in which black citizens could vote.
2002 The last successful telemetry from the NASA space probe Pioneer 10.
2005 The superjumbo jet aircraft Airbus A380 makes its first flight from Toulouse, France.
2006 Construction begins on the planned 1,776 foot Freedom Tower for the new World Trade Center in New York City.
2009 General Motors announced plans to cut 21,000 hourly jobs and scrap the Pontiac brand.
…leaving only Chevrolet, Buick, Cadillac and GMC as GM’s surviving brands.
ZachKessin
Thank you for the recommendations.
YW Moderator-80
What would be the situation if the earth’s speed was twice what it is now?
Would we feel the spin?
No. Except on Purim.
Would we weigh less?
April 26 historic events
1607 English colonists of the Jamestown settlement make landfall at Cape Henry, Virginia.
1785 Naturalist and artist John James Audubon was born in Haiti.
1805 United States Marines captured Derne, Tripoli under the command of First Lieutenant Presley O’Bannon.
1865 Union cavalry troopers corner and shoot dead John Wilkes Booth, assassin of President Lincoln, in Virginia.
Some conspiracy theorists claim that it wasn’t actually Booth who was killed.
1937 Spanish Civil War: Guernica, Spain is bombed by German Luftwaffe.
The Germans developed and refined the concept of terror from the air in this attack against Guernica’s civilians. The famous painting by Picasso immortalized the attack and the horror endured by its victims.
1938: Austrian Jews were required to register property above 5,000 Reichsmarks. This came as part of the Nazification of Austria after the Germans annexed Hitler’s homeland. After the war, the Austrians sought to portray themselves as the first victims of Nazi aggression. The cheering throngs that greeted Hitler told a different story.
(from “thisdayinjewishhistory”s blog)
1945 Marshal Henri Philippe Petain, the head of France’s Vichy government during World War II, was arrested.
This WWI French hero was famous for his “They shall not pass” pledge, given while defending Verdun. He became a traitor after France’s defeat in WWII, collaborating with the nazis (ym”s) and heading the Vichy government. Petain died in prison in 1951.
1961 Roger Maris hits 1st of 61 homers in 1961.
Many baseball fans regard Maris’s 61 as the “real” (untainted by steroid cheating) home run record.
1970 The Convention Establishing the World Intellectual Property Organization enters into force.
1986 A nuclear reactor accident occurs at the Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant in the Soviet Union (now Ukraine), creating the world’s worst nuclear disaster. An explosion and fire in the No. 4 reactor sent radioactivity into the atmosphere; at least 31 people died immediately.
Believe it or not, this disaster was caused by a horribly mismanaged safety test and drill.
1991 Seventy tornadoes break out in the central United States. Before the outbreak’s end, Andover, Kansas, would record the year’s only F5 tornado.
1994 Physicists announce first evidence of the top quark subatomic particle.
2005 Under international pressure, Syria withdraws the last of its 14,000 troop military garrison in Lebanon, ending its 29-year military domination of that country.
Instead, Lebanon is now dominated by the Syrian / Iranian proxy Hezbollah.
YW Moderator-80-
The author was Daniel Defoe
I read the book*, so I should know
But haste in this case did make waste
It happens when you** cut and paste
(*the Classics Illustrated version, anyway)
(**me)
April 25 historic events
1719 Daniel Defoes publishes “Robinson Crusoe”.
1846 Thornton Affair: Open conflict begins over the disputed border of Texas, triggering the Mexican-American War.
1859 British and French engineers break ground for the Suez Canal.
1862 American Civil War: Forces under Union Admiral David Farragut capture the Confederate city of New Orleans, Louisiana.
1881 250,000 Germans petition to bar foreign Jews from entering Germany.
1898 Spanish-American War: The United States declares war on Spain.
1901 New York becomes the first U.S. state to require automobile license plates. The fee is $1.
1904 New York Yankee Jack Chesbro’s 1st of 41 wins this year.
A huge loss of life for both sides, with little accomplished.
1939 DC Comics publishes its second major superhero in Detective Comics #27; he is Batman, one of the most popular comic book superheroes of all time.
If you were fortunate enough to buy that comic book, and still have it, you can probably trade it in for a very nice house.
1945 Elbe Day: United States and Soviet troops meet in Torgau along the River Elbe, cutting the Wehrmacht of Nazi Germany in two, a milestone in the approaching end of World War II in Europe.
1952 American Bowling Congress approves use of an automatic pinsetter.
1953 Francis Crick and James D. Watson publish Molecular structure of nucleic acids: a structure for deoxyribose nucleic acid describing the double helix structure of DNA.
1959 The St. Lawrence Seaway, linking the North American Great Lakes and the Atlantic Ocean, officially opens to shipping.
1961 Robert Noyce is granted a patent for an integrated circuit.
1975 As North Vietnamese forces close in on the South Vietnamese capital Saigon, the Australian Embassy is closed and evacuated, almost ten years to the day since the first Australian troop commitment to South Vietnam.
1982 Israel completes its withdrawal from the Sinai peninsula per the Camp David Accords.
As a result of the unprecedented give-back, the Arab world offers congratulations to Israel for their concession, and extends diplomatic recognition to the Jewish state. Yeah, right.
1983 American schoolgirl Samantha Smith is invited to visit the Soviet Union by its leader Yuri Andropov after he read her letter in which she expressed fears about nuclear war.
Old KGBer Andropov wins worldwide PR points for the invitation. Samantha Smith became famous as a result of her letter and visit, and a TV show was created for her to star in. Sadly, she and her father died in a plane crash a couple of years later.
1983 Pioneer 10 travels beyond Pluto’s orbit.
The Pioneer 10 is the first man-made object to leave the solar system.
1988 In Israel, John Demjanuk is sentenced to death for war crimes committed in World War II.
1990 The Hubble Telescope is deployed into orbit from the Space Shuttle Discovery.
2003 The Human Genome Project comes to an end 2.5 years before first anticipated.
Flying Alarm Clock – now available for only USD $7.99 (short time only special)
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Gut Shabbos
April 23 historic events
1635 The first public school in the United States, Boston Latin School, is founded in Boston, Massachusetts.
1891 Jews expelled from Moscow. About 30,000 eventually are forced to leave.
Russia is among the Eastern European countries that have a centuries-long tradition of anti-Semitism. This was a major reason that so many Jews joined the communist movement.
1920 The national council in Turkey denounces the government of Sultan Mehmed VI and announces a temporary constitution. The Grand National Assembly of Turkey is founded in Ankara.
1927 Turkey becomes the first country to celebrate Children’s Day as a national holiday.
1948 Arab-Israeli War: Haifa, the major port of Israel, is captured from Arab forces.
1949 Chinese Civil War: Establishment of the People’s Liberation Army Navy.
1967 Soviet space program: Soyuz 1 was a manned spaceflight, Launched into orbit carrying cosmonaut Colonel Vladimir Komarov.
The flight was successful, the landing was not. Komarov was killed the next day when, due to multiple system failures, his capsule crashed on its return to Earth.
1968 Vietnam War: Student protesters at Columbia University in New York City take over administration buildings and shut down the university.
1985 Coca-Cola changes its formula and releases New Coke. The response is overwhelmingly negative, and the original formula is back on the market in less than 3 months.
People were bidding exorbitant prices for remaining bottles of “old coke” before the company caved in and reintroduced it.
1987 28 construction workers die when the L’Ambiance Plaza apartment building collapses while under construction in Bridgeport, Connecticut.
1990 Namibia becomes the 160th member of the United Nations and the 50th member of the Commonwealth of Nations.
2003 Beijing closes all schools for two weeks because of the SARS virus.
Is our children learning? No, but at least they isn’t getting sick.
April 22 historic events
1864 The U.S. Congress passes the Coinage Act of 1864 which mandates that the inscription “In God We Trust” be placed on all coins minted as United States currency.
The 1864 two-cent piece was the first coin to carry this motto. After it was omitted from the $10 and $20 gold coins of 1907, congress passed a law requiring that it appear on all coins minted thereafter (except for the penny and nickel, upon which it’s stamped, anyway).
1884 U.S. recognizes King Leopold II’s Congo Free State.
Belgium’s colonization of the Congo was particularly vicious and brutal. “Though he (Leopold) extracted a personal fortune from the Congo, his harsh regime was directly or indirectly responsible for the death of millions of people.” – wikipedia
1897 New York City Jewish newspaper “Forward” begins publishing (still active).
1912 Pravda, the “voice” of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, begins publication in Saint Petersburg.
1915 The use of poison gas in World War I escalates when chlorine gas is released as a chemical weapon in the Second Battle of Ypres.
1954 Red Scare: The Army-McCarthy Hearings begin.
“Tailgunner Joe” McCarthy led the witch-hunt in a shameful period in U.S. history. He had zero ethics, zero honesty, and was eager to burnish his own credentials by smearing an ruining innocent people. Even WWII hero and Presidential candidate Eisenhower was intimidated by McCarthy to the extent that he backed off from his planned defense of General George Marshall.
1962 New York Mets tie a NL record by losing 9 straight to start season.
Amazin’
1964 The 1964-1965 New York World’s Fair opens for its first season.
The Unisphere in Queens, NY is among the remnants of that event.
1972 Vietnam War: Increased American bombing in Vietnam prompts anti-war protests in Los Angeles, New York City, and San Francisco.
1979 The Albert Einstein Memorial is unveiled at The National Academy of Sciences in Washington, DC.
1993 The Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington, D.C. is dedicated.
2004 Pro football player Pat Tillman, who’d traded in a multimillion-dollar contract to serve as an Army Ranger in Afghanistan, was killed by friendly fire.
2008 The United States Air Force retires the remaining F-117 Nighthawk aircraft in service.
F-117, aka the Stealth fighter. Unlike the fictional Soviet “Firefox”, this radar-evading plane was only capable of subsonic flight.
Irony: Vladimir Lenin (1870) and Alexander Kerensky (1881) share this birthday.
A couple of possibly related points, observations and questions:
-Within the past few years I read in the news of experiments that successfully slowed the speed of light. Once again, I don’t remember specifics as to who, where, how and when.
-Gravity does affect light. I bends light, and in the case of black holes / gravity wells, it swallows light.
-What is the speed of gravity? If the sun were to vanish, we would still see its light for about another eight minutes. How long would it take for Earth to cease its elliptical orbit and fly out in a (basically) straight line?
YW Moderator-80–
“the speed at which you can measure the time difference is of course dependent on the sensitivity and accuracy of the time measuring device. You can measure the effect on a moving snail if you have a good enough device…“
I suppose so, but you’d need an exceptionally sterile laboratory to conduct such fine measurements in order to be sure there are no outside influences.
Yes, I’m talking; “in principle” not practically.
“If you were to travel on a light beam that leaves a star 100 light years away from earth. You look at your watch as you leave the star, you look at it again when you arrive on earth, ZERO time will have passed for you and for your watch. But to the people on earth, if they could somehow have observed your voyage, they would measure that 100 years had elapsed from the time you left the star until you got here. Something like that.“
I read a sci-fi book a few decades ago where the heroes had to take an interstellar trip at near-light speed. It mentioned that the trip would be relatively short from the astronauts’ perspective, but by the time they returned to Earth, 100 Earth-years would have passed and all their relatives and acquaintances would be gone.
I never heard of Dr. Gerald Schroeder or his book, but according to most Amazon reviewers it’s quite good.
WolfishMusings–
I did a quick search on “time dilation” and “space travel”.
I was unable to find an article similar to what I remember reading, but I did find the following:
-Joseph C. Hafele and Richard E. Keating conducted “time difference” experiments by flying atomic clocks areound the world on commercial flights. Google the names for the full story.
– This quote; “Modern-day atomic clocks are so accurate that when synchronizing clocks between different observatories, the effect of time dilation due to transporting the reference clock on an airline flight must be taken into account.” Several sites mention this, but this wording was the most concise.
ZachKessin–
Wikipedia confirms Alpha Centauri is a binary star, with the less-closely located Proxima Centauri joining it to make a triple star.
I’m not sure if the term I used – “double star” – and “binary star” have different meanings; i.e. “binary” possibly denoting a closer relationship.
“First of all do not try to understand relativity without understanding Newton’s laws of motion. It would be like trying to study Kaballah without knowing Tanach first.“
Any book recommendations to give a lay-person a basic understanding? Not too dense, not overly simple, and not too boring. (I’ll leave out the “and while standing on one leg” clause.)
WolfishMusings-
I could be wrong on this, but I’m fairly certain you need to go faster than 25K MPH to see the effects of time dilation.
Unfortunately, I don’t remember where I saw it, but I recall reading that a small but measurable time difference did occur. B”N I’ll do a little research (google) later.
the speed at which you can measure the time difference is of course dependent on the sensitivity and accuracy of the time measuring device. You can measure the effect on a moving snail if you have a good enough device…80
Any technological advances that will allow FTL travel will probably not involve altering this law of physics, but rather with warping space and/or time in some way.
I’ve heard the term “worm hole” used with regards to this, similar to “tesseract” re: time travel, but who knows?
Bonus question: What was the first man-made object to move faster than the speed of sound?
1) The X-1 (level flight)
2) The P-38 (in a dive – this is where it was proven that an aircraft could withstand supersonic flight, although the controls froze, due to the shock wave, IIRC).
3) A bullet (no human aboard [except for in the book From the Earth to the Moon, speaking of books]).
4) A cracked whip’s tip (not the entire object, but a portion of it).
5) Anything man-made, since the Earth orbits at @66,000 mph, and rotates at @1,025 mph at the equator.
6) ?
Just a few points:
3) If I remember correctly, once space travel became a reality, and the previously unheard-of speed of 25,000 MPH was achieved, it was proven that time actually slows down as speed increases.
YW Moderator-80–
She was certainly the first to finish it in such inimitable style;
-She blew away the previous record.
-She finished minutes ahead of her nearest competitor.
-She was terribly out-of-shape for a marathon runner.
I actually remember when this took place.
No comments were added to cut-n-pasted description of the incident, because the true story was far funnier than any add-on comments of mine.
WolfishMusings–
April 21 historic events
1898 Spanish-American War: The U.S. Congress, on April 25, recognizes that a state of war exists between the United States and Spain as of this date.
1918 World War I: German fighter ace Manfred von Richthofen, known as “The Red Baron”, is shot down and killed over Vaux sur Somme in France.
1934 Moe Berg, Senators catcher, plays AL record 117th cons errorless game.
1952 Secretary’s Day (now Administrative Professionals’ Day) is first celebrated.
Political correctness strikes again! Anyway, have a happy one.
1963 Beatles meet Rolling Stones for 1st time.
Rolling Stones meet Beatles. Crunch, crunch, crunch.
1964 A Transit-5bn satellite fails to reach orbit after launch; as it re-enters the atmosphere, 2.1 pounds of radioactive plutonium in its SNAP RTG power source is widely dispersed.
Fortunately, no harm was done. The discovery of a three-eyed rabbit colony nearby was purely coincidental.
1965 The 1964-1965 New York World’s Fair opens for its second and final season.
1975 Vietnam War: President of South Vietnam Nguyen Van Thieu flees Saigon, as Xuan Loc, the last South Vietnamese outpost blocking a direct North Vietnamese assault on Saigon, falls.
1980 Rosie Ruiz, the first woman to cross the finish line at the Boston Marathon, was disqualified when officials discovered she had jumped into the race about a mile from the finish.
1983 1 pound coin introduced in United Kingdom
1987 Brewers lose, ending AL season-opening winning streak at 13 games.
Incredibly, after setting the record with 13 straight wins to open the season, they then proceeded to lose twelve straight.
1989 Tiananmen Square Protests of 1989: In Beijing, around 100,000 students gather in Tiananmen Square to commemorate Chinese reform leader Hu Yaobang.
1994 The first discoveries of extrasolar planets are announced by astronomer Alexander Wolszczan.
Mighty fine telescope you’ve got there, Alex.
estherh-
I’m sorry the results of the test weren’t what was hoped for.
Although better news would have been welcome, it’s good you posted here so that people are reminded to remember you in their tefilos.
IY”H may the doctors be the correct shluchim to bring about your refua shelaima.
April 20 historic events
1657 Admiral Robert Blake destroys a Spanish silver fleet under heavy fire at Santa Cruz de Tenerife.
1657 Freedom of religion is granted to the Jews of New Amsterdam (later New York City).
Any religious freedoms obtained by Jews in New Amsterdam were accomplished despite the strong resistance of Governor Peter Stuyvesant, who was a noted anti-Semite.
1775 American Revolutionary War: the Siege of Boston begins, following the battles at Lexington and Concord.
1812 Vice President George Clinton, a former New York governor, died at age 73.
He was the first Vice President to serve under two different presidents (Thomas Jefferson and James Madison), and the first to die in office. We had a Vice President Clinton almost 200 years before having a president with the same last name.
1861 American Civil War: Robert E. Lee resigns his commission in the United States Army in order to command the forces of the state of Virginia.
Despite leading the Confederate army, Lee himself was strongly opposed to slavery, as illustrated by this famous quote; “There are few, I believe, in this enlightened age, who will not acknowledge that slavery as an institution is a moral and political evil”.
1862 Louis Pasteur and Claude Bernard complete the first pasteurization tests.
1912 Opening day for baseball stadiums Tiger Stadium in Detroit, Michigan, and Fenway Park in Boston, Massachusetts.
1916 The Chicago Cubs play their first game at Weeghman Park (currently Wrigley Field), defeating the Cincinnati Reds 7-6 in 11 innings.
A visit to Wrigley is like a trip back in time. Same ballpark. Same two world championships.
1918 Manfred von Richthofen, aka The Red Baron, shoots down his 79th and 80th victims marking his final victories before his death the following day.
Canadian pilot Roy Brown is credited with shooting down Richthofen, but he was probably shot down by an Australian anti-aircraft gunner.
1972 The manned lunar module from Apollo 16 landed on the moon.
1978 Korean Air Flight 902 is shot down by Soviets.
This wasn’t really a shoot-down, since the damaged plane was able to keep flying and landed safely on a frozen lake. The shoot-down of KAL 007 a few years later was much more deadly, as all aboard that plane died. In both of the above cases, the Soviet pilots were ordered to shoot down the airliners, even though the pilots were reasonably sure that they were civilian planes.
1998 German terrorist group Red Army Faction announces their dissolution after 28 years.
1999 Columbine High School massacre: Two students murder 13 people and injure 24 others before committing suicide at Columbine High School in Jefferson County, Colorado.
April 19 historic events
A year later, in a much more famous battle, he helped defeat the Spanish Armada.
1775 American Revolutionary War: The war begins with the battles of Lexington and Concord.
1782 John Adams secures the Dutch Republic’s recognition of the United States as an independent government. The house which he had purchased in The Hague, Netherlands becomes the first American embassy.
1861 American Civil War: Baltimore riot of 1861, a pro-Secession mob in Baltimore, Maryland, attacks United States Army troops marching through the city.
Although Maryland was on the Union side during the Civil War, there were a great many Confederate sympathizers in Baltimore and the rest of Maryland.
1892 Charles Duryea claims to have driven the first automobile in the United States, in Springfield, Massachusetts.
The Duryea brothers (Charles and Frank) were the first commercial manufacturers of gasoline-engined cars in the U.S.
1936 First day of the Great Uprising in Palestine.
1942 World War II: In Poland, the Majdan-Tatarski ghetto is established, situated between the Lublin Ghetto and a Majdanek subcamp.
1943 World War II: In Poland, German troops enter the Warsaw ghetto to round up the remaining Jews, beginning the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising.
In one of the bravest and saddest episodes in history, the doomed Jewish resistance, armed mostly with pistols and Molotov cocktails, held off the nazis (YM”S) despite their tanks and armored vehicles, for nearly a month. It is worth your time to read up on this.
1951 General Douglas MacArthur retires from the military.
The “retirement” was preceded by his firing, ordered by President Truman. During his farewell speech he said his famous line, that “old soldiers never die; they just fade away.”
1961 The Bay of Pigs invasion of Cuba ends in success for the defenders.
Translation – the poorly planned and executed invasion was totally crushed.
1971 Vietnam War: Vietnam Veterans Against the War begin a five-day demonstration in Washington, DC.
Among the attendees was future Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry.
1989 A gun turret explodes on the USS Iowa, killing 47 sailors.
An initial investigation concluded that the explosion was caused by suicidal sabotage, carried out by one of the dead sailors. A follow-up investigation concluded that it was an accident. The truth? Who knows?
1993 A 51-day siege at the Branch Davidian compound near Waco, Texas, ended when fire destroyed the structure as federal agents smashed their way in. Eighty-one people, including sect leader David Koresh, were killed.
Whether the fatal fires were started accidentally by the Feds or deliberately by the Branch Davidians hasn’t been proven. Videotape appears to show a Branch Davidian on a rooftop setting a fire.
1995 Oklahoma City bombing: The Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, USA, is bombed, killing 168. That same day convicted murderer Richard Wayne Snell, who had ties to bombing suspect Timothy McVeigh, is executed in Arkansas. McVeigh was later convicted of federal murder charges and executed.
One of the bombers’ motives was “avenging” the Branch Davidian compound’s destruction. This was the worst terrorist attack on U.S. soil until 9/11.
1997 The Red River Flood of 1997 overwhelms the city of Grand Forks, ND. Fire breaks out and spreads in downtown Grand Forks, but high water levels hamper efforts to reach the fire, leading to the destruction of 11 buildings.
Photos of Grand Forks’s devastated downtown showed shells of brick buildings standing in the floodwaters.
April 18 historic events
1775 American Revolution: The British advancement by sea begins; Paul Revere began his ride from Charlestown to Lexington, Mass., warning American colonists that the British were coming.
1783 Fighting ceases in the American Revolution, eight years to the day since it began.
1848 American victory at the battle of Cerro Gordo opens the way for invasion of Mexico.
General Santa Anna, who had killed all defenders of the Alamo and massacred the prisoners of war captured at Goliad, was forced to flee in such haste that he left his artificial leg behind. The leg is currently on display in the Illinois State Military Museum.
1906 The San Francisco earthquake and fire destroys much of San Francisco, California.
1912 The Cunard liner RMS Carpathia brings 705 survivors from the RMS Titanic to New York City.
Remains of the piers on the lower West Side of Manhattan that were used by Cunard (Carpathia’s parent company) and White Star (Titanic’s parent) still exist.
1915 French pilot Roland Garros is shot down and glides to a landing on the German side of the lines during World War I.
Garros was the first pilot to invent a system that allowed fighter aircraft to fire machine guns thru the spinning blades of a propeller. He shielded the prop’s blades so the bullets would deflect off to the side without destroying the prop. Anthony Fokker, a German, devised a much better system, whereby the machine gun was synchronized with the spinning prop so the bullets were able to pass thru the blades without striking them.
1923 Yankee Stadium, “The House that Ruth Built,” opens.
The Yankees beat the Boston Red Sox 4-1 on its opening day, with Babe Ruth contributing a homer. A pile of rubble, known as “The House that George Demolished” is now all that remains of that stadium. Despite their disappointment over the destruction of the historic stadium, Yankee fans were largely mollified by capture of yet another world championship.
1942 World War II: The Doolittle Raid on Japan. Tokyo, Yokohama, Kobe and Nagoya bombed.
Although the raid didn’t accomplish much strategically, it was a huge morale boost for the U.S. and a shock to the Japanese who had been promised by their leaders that they couldn’t be attacked. The B-25 bombers had to fly further than originally planned, and none of them were able to make it safely to the original Chinese landing site. In a wartime atrocity, three captured American prisoners-of-war were executed by the Japanese.
1943 World War II: Operation Vengeance, Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto is killed when his aircraft is shot down by U.S. fighters over Bougainville Island.
Isoroku Yamamoto was a top Japanese admiral who had studied at Harvard for three years. Although he strongly opposed going to war vs. the U.S., he was the primary planner of the Pearl Harbor attack. By 1943 American code-breakers had cracked the top secret Japanese code, but didn’t want to tip their hand unless presented with a major opportunity. This opportunity occurred when they intercepted Admiral Yamamoto’s flight plans. A special mission to shoot down Yamamoto’s plane was planned, using P-38 fighters specially equipped with drop tanks (disposable fuel tanks) to extend their range. The attack took the Japanese by surprise and was a complete success; Yamamoto was killed when his plane was shot down, and almost all of the P-38s returned successfully. Yamamoto is credited with the famous quote following the Pearl Harbor attack, that “I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve.”
1946 The League of Nations went out of business.
What appeared to be a successful transition of power was hijacked when the corrupt, racist, and incompetent Robert Mugabe assumed power.
This is a very nice idea; thank you for starting the thread.
Whenever a fresh post appears on the dvar Torah thread, I read it. I’m sure others do, too.
smartcookie-
Thanks for the kind words – it’s my pleasure. I cut-and-paste from a couple of sites, do a bit of minor editing where needed, and add comments.
WolfishMusings-
“One, the year was 1940, not 1941“
Google confirms that you’re correct.
“Two, while it is technically true that no one average went down, that’s a bit misleading.“
It’s very misleading. That’s done quite deliberately (as pointed out by “YW Moderator-80”), and with malice aforethought. Think of it as misleading in the first degree.
April 16 historic events
73 Masada, a Jewish fortress, falls to the Romans after several months of siege, ending the Jewish Revolt.
Moshe Dayan initiated the practice of holding the swearing-in ceremony on top of Masada for soldiers who have completed their IDF basic training. The ceremony ends with the declaration: “Masada shall not fall again.” The soldiers climb the Snake Path at night and are sworn in with torches lighting the background (wikipedia).
1789 President-elect George Washington left Mount Vernon, Va., for his inauguration in New York.
1862 American Civil War: A bill ending slavery in the District of Columbia becomes law.
1917 Lenin returns to Petrograd from exile in Switzerland.
Germany was complicit in allowing and facilitating his return, thereby causing misery to countless hundreds of millions (probably billions) over the remainder of the twentieth century.
1941 Bob Feller of the Cleveland Indians throws the only Opening Day no-hitter in the history of Major League Baseball, beating the Chicago White Sox 1-0.
Now you know the answer to a baseball trivia question: How did a team have a no-hitter thrown against them, but nobody’s batting average went down?
1945 The United States Army liberates Nazi Sonderlager (high security) Prisoner of War camp Oflag IV-C (better known as Colditz).
1945 More than 7,000 die when the German refugee ship Goya is sunk by a Soviet submarine torpedo.
The shipwreck which cost more loss of life than any other in history – the sinking of the Wilhelm Gustloff, in which nearly 10,000 died – was also the result of being torpedoed by a Soviet sub.
1947 America’s worst harbor explosion occurred in Texas City, Texas, when the French ship Grandcamp, carrying ammonium nitrate fertilizer, caught fire and blew up, devastating the town. Another ship, the Highflyer, exploded the following day. The explosions and resulting fires killed more than 500 people and left 200 others missing.
1947 Financier and presidential confidant Bernard Baruch coins the term “Cold War” to describe the relationship between the United States and the Soviet Union. Baruch said in a speech at the South Carolina statehouse, “Let us not be deceived. We are today in the midst of a cold war.”
1963 Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. pens his famous Letter from Birmingham Jail while incarcerated in Birmingham, Alabama for protesting against segregation.
1972 Apollo program: The launch of Apollo 16 from Cape Canaveral, Florida.
The second-to-last of the six successful manned lunar landings.
1990 The “Doctor of Death”, Jack Kevorkian, goes through with his first assisted suicide.
1992 The House ethics committee listed 303 current and former lawmakers who had overdrawn their House bank accounts.
Insert punch line here.
2007 Virginia Tech massacre: The deadliest mass shooting in modern American history. Seung-Hui Cho, kills 32 and injures 23 before committing suicide.
2008 Democratic senators Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama participate in the final Democratic primary debate of 2008 in Philadelphia.
2009 President Barack Obama issued a statement saying CIA officials who’d used harsh interrogation tactics during the Bush administration would not be prosecuted.
It would probably be inappropriate to suggest that the new 2013 administration return the favor and not prosecute the architects of the ruinous foreign policies currently being enacted and followed.
Correction: “Robert Ismay” in yesterday’s post should have been “J. Bruce Ismay”.
Thanks to the many readers who noticed the error, but were too kind to embarrass yours truly by pointing it out.
Gut Shabbos.
April 15 historic event (just one today)
Ninety-eight years ago today, the Titanic sank in the early morning hours of April 15, 1912 after striking an iceberg the night before. About two thirds of the 2,200+ aboard – over 1,500 people – died in the sinking.
The sinking and the subsequent massive loss of life were the results of bad planning, bad luck, and poor decisions made both before and after the collision.
-The number of lifeboats aboard was reduced to the minimum allowed by law.
-The Californian, a ship that was close enough to easily reach the sinking Titanic before it went down and rescue most (if not all) passengers, never approached the doomed ship. This was because;
After the sinking, ships were chartered to recover as many of the bodies as was possible. Those that were in poor shape were buried at sea, but hundreds were recovered. About half were never identified, and were buried under tombstones with only a number on them instead of a name.
More than ninety years after the disaster, DNA testing identified him as 19-month-old Sidney Leslie Goodwin. His entire family died in the sinking, and his body was the only one recovered.
The disaster was shocking and inspired changes in maritime law and safety regulations.
Although there have been other sinkings with higher numbers of casualties, it remains (nearly 100 years later) by far the most famous shipwreck in history.
April 14 historic events
1775 The first abolition society in North America is established. The Society for the Relief of Free Negroes Unlawfully Held in Bondage is organized in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania by Benjamin Franklin and Benjamin Rush.
Slavery was a highly contentious issue when the U.S. was founded. Southern states insisted on retaining slavery and refused to join the U.S. if it was abolished. Because no agreement was reached, the issue was punted down the road. It was finally resolved by the Civil War.
1828 Noah Webster copyrights the first edition of his dictionary.
1831 Soldiers marching on a bridge in Manchester, England cause it to collapse.
The cause of this collapse, as well as the Tacoma Narrows bridge collapse over 100 years later, are taught in high-school physics.
1860 The first Pony Express rider reaches Sacramento, California.
1865 U.S. President Abraham Lincoln is shot in Ford’s Theatre by John Wilkes Booth.
U.S. Secretary of State William H. Seward and his family are attacked in his home by Lewis Powell.
Thereby replacing one of the greatest presidents with one of the worst (Andrew Johnson). Seward was wounded but recovered.
1894 Thomas Edison demonstrates the kinetoscope, a device using photographs that flip in sequence, a precursor to movies.
Hey, I remember those!
1910 William Howard Taft became the first U.S. president to throw the ceremonial first pitch at a baseball game at the Washington Senators’ home opener.
1912 The British passenger liner RMS Titanic hits an iceberg in the North Atlantic at 11:40pm. The ship sinks the following morning with the loss of 1,517 lives.
The last Titanic survivor just died this past year.
1915 The Turks invade Armenia.
1956 In Chicago, Illinois, Ampex Corp. demonstrated its first commercial videotape recorder.
1958 The Soviet satellite Sputnik 2 falls from orbit after a mission duration of 162 days.
This satellite carried the first living creature into space, namely the dog Laika.
1986 In retaliation for the April 5 bombing in West Berlin that killed two U.S. servicemen, U.S. president Ronald Reagan orders major bombing raids against Libya, killing 60 people.
1986 1 kilogram (2.2 lb) hailstones fall on the Gopalganj district of Bangladesh, killing 92. These are the heaviest hailstones ever recorded.
1988 In a United Nations ceremony in Geneva, Switzerland, the Soviet Union signs an agreement pledging to withdraw its troops from Afghanistan.
1994 In a U.S. friendly fire incident during Operation Provide Comfort in northern Iraq, two United States Air Force aircraft mistakenly shoot-down two United States Army helicopters, killing 26 people.
2002 Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez returns to office two days after being ousted and arrested by the country’s military.
2003 The Human Genome Project is completed with 99% of the human genome sequenced to an accuracy of 99.99%.
Amazing.
2003 U.S. troops in Baghdad capture Abu Abbas, leader of the Palestinian group that killed an American on the hijacked cruise liner the MS Achille Lauro in 1985.
estherh-
A few suggestions:
1) Keep posting here. The people you shmooze with, and the many who clearly are keeping you in mind with their tefilos and well wishes will hopefully give chizuk.
2) Your family can let people know that you’d like company and what visiting time would be good (or when to call if they can’t drop in). I have visited friends and relatives when they were sick, but not knowing when and if they were up to company held me back to an extent.
3) Initiate calls yourself. Write letters to family / friends / old neighbors catching up.
4) Although most folks here don’t know you and live thousands of miles away, people are davening, saying tehilim and giving tzedaka with your return to good health (IY”H) in mind.
Refua shelaima.
Thank you for both the cleanup and the alacrity with which it was performed.
Yanky55-
I only got the most obvious one off the top of my head:
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(Bereishis 5:32)
I’m sure those who lain or have better memories from being ma’avir sedra got them all pretty quickly.
1) W.N.Q. and Q.N.W. Winners never quit and quitters never win.
2) D. wins C. Defense wins championships.
3) Take it O.G. at a T. Take it one game at a time.
5) G. 110 P. out T. Give 110 percent out there.
7) P. wins G., T. win C. Players win games, teams win championships.
10) Most B.G. are L., not W. Most ball games are lost, not won.
11) W. make G., L. make E. Winners make goals, losers make excuses.
12) N. say N. Never say never.
13) Y.W.S. and Y.L.S. You win some and you lose some.
Gut moed.