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Rebyid613 – Not sure what that says, but you certainly brought this topic back to life

tunaisafish – Not at all. I didn’t even think of the connection until you mentioned it. But that is a fair point, it is very similar.

GadolHadorah – So it’s on the top 10 dysfuntional, just it’s on the bottom of that list? If I had a website (I do) I would strive for it to not be on a person’s top 10 dysfunctional sites list. Maybe you have different standards.
That’s a good point you bring, social media can be very dangerous, and the more “ugly” and “boring” you make something, it can help take away those issues. (That answer is actually very good – It makes me feel a lot better about the design here).

AAQ – Interesting. I am curious about what the meaning of that is. Should we not suggest solutions to problems because we will always have our own problems? I never imagined that, but I guess I can’t argue with R’ Yisrael Salanter.

GadolHadorah – Great question! I am not sure what the answer is, but R’ Yisrael Salanter probably was successful, and there is another way to understand it. Don’t ask me what it means though, because I have no clue. But I feel like R’Y”S was not a failure in his mussar.

R’ Eliezer – What if your house always needs more work? You can’t help out a neighbor? (Maybe I should speak for myself, but I feel like none of us will ever be perfect. So does that mean don’t solve other’s problems?)

Haleivi – Yes, that’s one thing!

AAQ response to gadol – While his humility does show (big) progress, I think you didn’t answer the question. He doesn’t think he will ever be greater than R’ Yisrael Salanter, so is there ever hope for him? If R’ Yisrael failed, can he pass? Yes, progress is great, and I am sure R’Y”S also made plenty of progress, yet he said he failed (at least acc. to your post – I would love to know the source/context – Not that I don’t believe you, just that I want to see for myself).

Mod – Thanks for taking your time to read this looooong post. I know it’s not easy.

@little froggie second comment: I wrote that merely as a suggestion, not an attack. However, I understand that my choice of words in the first sentence was a bad one.

But seeing the responses to my post, I sort of like this kind of community. I may try to stick around a bit (I know, sorry).