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The OP asks deep questions
iMHO it’s just a symptom of galus and affects both the MO and chareidi world . The MO world by virtue of its insistence on giving chashivus to non Jewish thinkers, are certainly embracing kefira at a faster pace . But the chareidi community is hardly immune from the craziness.
In sticking with your example. Whereas the MO world will find adherents who transition children (yes I know a case) in the charedi world they are asking shaylos on attending gay weddings. A generation ago it wouldn’t have occurred to us to ask the shayla. Now it’s being asked.CT
Just point of fact
The national guard is not the “militia”
The NY guard is the militia. It only operates in the state. It can not be federalized and serves as a theoretical check and balanceI’m not sidestepping anything. I’m pointing out some facts. Exceptions have been made when dealing with highly influential people.
Here is another example. The nephew of a kohen gadol was given the right to study Greek philosophy and shave his hair like a Greek Bc of his interactions with the govt
I recognize the difference in the situations but maybe just maybe you should truly know if you are correct bf badmouthing an orthodox rav.Always
That was Richard the lionhearted. The “benevolent “ king of the Robin Hood fables.Ujm
Of course you have no proof to that statement
Yidden were sheltered in churches during times of upheaval
Yidden sent delegations to Rome , whether they were required to go to places they didn’t want to I can’t tell you
There is at least one case in the gemarah of a rav violating yichud in regards to an important matter
John of spryer saved Jews in his quarters on the “northern side of the cathedral “ granted that was straight out pikuach nefesh and I have no proof they entered the cathedral but this isn’t far fetched
If it wasn’t during prayers and it was a head of state whose benevolence helps Jews in galus, then I don’t find it hard to believe it hasn’t happened beforeIs it really that hard to believe that this wasn’t done by many chashuv rabbanim throughout history in the name of good relations with the monarchs of galus?
my apologizes to The Wolf
But it’s huge, and fortunately (i guess) it likes me, which means I get pounced on every time I enter the house. so I find myself face to face (on its hind legs its 6 ft tall) with something that I can only describe as the creature from little red riding hood
CT
Wise decision
A relative of mine has a German shepherd
110 pounds (I call it a wolf)
My kids want to know if they can put a saddle on it and ride itI obviously meant the “eat me “ part as a joke
But I just googled it
4.5 million bites in the US annually
800,000 requiring medical attentionCT
I don’t doubt that it lifts the spirits of many
I just have an aversion to having a pet that can always decide to eat me
Wouldn’t get a baby tiger for the same reasonsHad a guy in my office yesterday . He looked tired, I asked him what’s wrong
Has a brand new puppy
Needs to walk it every two hours so it doesn’t mess up his house “but it’s soooo worth it”
Walking behind an animal cleaning up after it sounds so delightful
When did we become a society controlled by animals, it’s supposed to be the other way aroundWhen you take into account armed resistance against a govt . It depends on the govt.
Afghanistan beat two superpowers. Because neither of them were willing to do what the nazis did. In Yugoslavia, when the country tried to fight, the nazis killed 100 for every German death. And 10 killed for every act of sabotage .It brought a quick stop to armed and overt resistance.
But Yserbius continues to make a very good argument for increased police and judicial action against violent offenders. In other words we need to stop the bad guys and keep them from getting guns. That isn’t the same as taking everyone’s guns. It means not tolerating chaos and that includes BLM looting as much as “armed” Jan 6 “insurrections”So they caught that nut job in Texas and he can be a case study in this discussion
1) deported 4 times (open borders)
2 )somehow allowed ownership of an ar even though he is an illegal (no background checks?)
3) allowed to shoot said gun on a 1 acre property near neighbors (in NYS I think it’s about 5acres)
4) can shoot drunk (plainly stupid but apparently common in the area)
There is enough blame for both right and left to take ownershipThe little
Though there is some truth to what you write, in general, I’m going to strongly disagree with you
Being the product of a divorce and having been to numerous therapists as part of the process, I’m going to tell you that it is a big mistake for a frum person to go to a non frum therapist
Even amongst the frum I would give it a 50-50 of the ones that I would consider to be helpful versus unhelpful (and in some cases damaging)
The best advice that I give to people is, there is no substitute for common sense
And you can pick that up within one to two sessions with a person. If something seems off about the therapist, go elsewhere. Unfortunately, because somebody seeking out a therapist is in a vulnerable position. They are often prone to thinking that the person sitting behind the desk is somehow in a superior position to give them advice
A good percentage of people who become psychologists are people who are still trying to find themselves.
You need to find a therapist that has common sense, frum values, and is acceptable to all parties.Are
This litvak got a laugh from your answerDamoshe
We are all familiar with the mishna brura on the subject
Yet many are not makpid including some very chashuv kehilosAvira
He was a minority in this. Most rabbunim take other considerations into account. For example, There are cases where democrats have helped in situations of pikuach nefesh and these rabbanum, due to hakaros hatov, will then lend their support to these candidates.Amil
In my states (ny and nj) you can’t buy a gun unless it is registered
Every purchase goes through a ffl and is registered
I’m fine with background checks and limited purchases. From what I can tell the biggest source of illegal guns comes from mass purchases in the south. It’s fair to limit everyone to a single purchase every 30(NJ) to 90(NY) days.
I also think the NRA’s position of all or nothing is harmful. There are those who have served on the NRA board who agree and would seek compromise. I hope they succeed.
But let me ask you this?
How do you think people in your neighborhood would respond if they attempted a U.K. style gun confiscation?Yserbius
Where do you see that the frum velt has been fighting tooth and nail against toeva, abortion etc?
I have seen incredible little activism on the part of the frum velt in regards to moral issues.
In fact many Rabbunim have had zero issues voting for democrats that have abominable moral stances (and it’s not about the money, I’ve had this discussion with chashuv rabbanim who have given cheshbonos)
The only Rav of note that I can think of that has yelled about these things is Rav MillerAvira
Acc to google 95%
But I know plenty in the Monticello area and they all do
I know one guy that was homeschooled till 10. He told me that when he finally went to public school he realized that unlike in his home, most people don’t actually eat venison for breakfastYserbius
I’ve been mulling your points lately and doing some reading
The U.K. took the opposite approach at least in terms of length of guns
Guns under 12 inches are banned (leading to some very interesting looking long revolvers)
Though admittedly they don’t allow any magazine fed gun above .22Avira
I take issue with you calling hunting “barbaric”
As a sport maybe. I have a problem with someone killing a grizzly just to stuff it.
But the vast majority of hunters use their kills for food etc so why is that any more barbaric than your local butcher?
35% of American gun owners hunt. Many more with bows. They aren’t barbaric. They are just living life as it was done when men were men.Meno’s point on purchasing surges based on political affiliation of those in office is true. I know many non owners who bought for the first time after a democrat came into office or after a mass shooting. They were afraid their options would be limited so they ran to get something.
Interestingly enough. In discussion of the insanity of the illogic to many of our laws; NYC “forced” me to purchase a gun. I applied for a license due to the turmoil of a few years ago. By the time I got my license the turmoil had died down so I didn’t feel compelled. But NYC revokes your license if you don’t purchase one immediately. Go figure.
As I have said. There is room for compromise but there needs to an acceptance of reality.Yserbius
So I just fumbled my way into another thread on mashiach
Not being aware of the rambam on moshiach I reached an improper conclusion
But now that I’ve read it, and it’s a problem. Bc the rambam speaks about klal Yisroel going to war
How can we possibly do that armed with .22’s ?!?!
Do you realize you are literally standing in the way of moshiach?!?!
Admittedly a possibility: when the time comes he will break open the armories for us. Or perhaps we will get magic weapons, but I still think the rambam wasn’t pro gun controlCs
So I’ve been informed (since I posted the above) that you are paraphrasing a rambam
Having looked over the rambam I would say that giant leaps of reinterpretation are being made to come to your conclusion
Also I noted that you do not speak of the Rebbes death, just a date
Is that Bc you do not believe he died?Cs
Excuse me if I missed something ( I didn’t read every post) but I believe you and I have very different definitions of the words halacha and chazaka
In order for something to have a chazakah there can not be doubt. it must, by definition, be established. So the only way to have a chazakah of being moshiach is if moshiach was actually here (shofar blowing and all) and then we can point to moshiach and say “there he is” I.e. there must be an established certainty.
As for halacha , I don’t even begin to understand how you are using that term in this context of the theoretical . Halacha is usually established by majority consensus of poskim. Certainly no one outside of chabad would give that consensus. Besides, how do you pasken that someone is moshiach?Yserbius
I don’t believe were that far apart
I happen to be pro gun control. I happen to believe that, at least in America the presence of a gun in the house is more likely to cause a problem then solve one. Certainly carrying a gun all day long is more likely to lead to an act of rage than to end up protecting somebody. In my 50+ years of walking in the street I can’t think of one instance that carrying a gun would’ve helped me.
Now the other side of the story is of course, every now and then it might be necessary. And perhaps if somebody has a job in a dangerous area or a synagogue needs to be protected , or you live in the middle of the mountains, then maybe it does make sense. I personally advise people against purchasing guns. But being a maven if they are going to do it, I certainly guide them through the process.
And as I’ve said, I think there’s room for compromise. But the compromise will not happen if the left insists on being soft on crime and if the left will not put it into writing that they won’t go for complete confiscation.Yserbius
I’m not sure you would count me in on your side of the discussion. After all to quote my wife “I have way too many guns” so I am probably more like the mountain men of krigers former life in that respect.
“Gun culture” is growing in the frum world. One of the popular gun ranges in Lakewood is now Jewish owned.
But I am not sure how to define “gun culture” partly bc I’m not sure why it makes people more nervous when someone has 10 guns as opposed to 1. I am no more likely to become violent Bc I have more than 1 gun. So the logic escapes me.Dear bot
Why on earth does my teenage daughter like listening to Waterbury kumzitz’s?
And why oh why does she harass me by playing it out loud and making me listen to them?Ubiq
you will notice i stayed away from historical and theoretical arguments
But my statement is fact, each new supreme court ruling further entrenches it, whether or not you agree with the arguments or “reinterpretation” is irrelevant to the discussion
and abortion is at a disadvantage in that there is no amendment guaranteeing it
but none of this interests me
all that interests me is how the govt can possibly go about removing guns without creating a massive violation of the civil rights of gun owners (and without causing a civil war)and as i already said, i would not support jail for abortion
as for passing the legislation that created the illegality in the first place (rolling back roe vs wade) I am of two minds. The religious answer is obvious (and not at all comparable to guns, bc gun ownership is not immoral). As for my practical answer i would have left it on the books. Partly bc of the noted problem of people ignoring it and partly bc of other reasons.Yserbius
If only we could wave a magic wand, but alas some of us live in the real world
And some of us have mentioned some real world initiatives but alas the left always prefers emotional band aids that look good in front of the pressand mods
how come i am labeled as participant?! you would think after 12+ years we would be on a first name basisYserbius
Btw
Any hunter would consider your proposal unethical
You do not hunt with a .22 Bc it will probably wound and cause suffering
Also the limited studies that I’ve been able to find in the past don’t have a huge difference between fatalities between 22 caliber and 9 mm.My problem is, is that the conversation from the lefts POV tends to ignore the biggest problems. The open borders, and the flow of illegal weapons. Being soft on crime and allowing violent offenders free reign.
If the left is coming after our weapons, maybe they should make us feel secure first, so that we don’t need them.Ubiq
Ignoring the obvious lack of logic in the comparison (might as well have said “since everyone murders anyway , do you support….”)
But as I have said many times I only support jail for violent offenders
But there is more than one form of governmental tyranny
I’m less worried about dictatorships and more worried about millions of law abiding citizens being persecuted for something that is currently legalYserbius
Your arguments actually are the reason it will never happen
First everyone here with their heads in the clouds are ignoring the fact that the second amendment is only becoming more entrenched in law
Second the reason why the NRA continues to be popular and is allowed to fight tooth and nail on every “infringement “ is Bc every nra member is convinced the left is coming for their guns, and therefore they dig in their heels.
If the left compromised a little bit. I firmly believe you’ll see compromise on the other side.
If the left agreed to not fight the second amendment and try stupid illogical laws like so-called assault rifle bans, I think we would see the right, willing to compromise on mental health checks and waiting periods etcAs far as I can tell, chazal never banned weapons even though it would be used to kill
why must the individual give up his rights ?
if you say for the greater good (which has theoretical logic) then lets take it a step further
hashkafically, can we actually control the number of people that die annually? Does taking away guns save someone from premature death?
what about cars? 46,000+ deaths a year. Lets go back to horse and buggy.
Rav Shimshon Pincus said if he had a sanhedrin he would have banned cars (ironically he was killed in a car accident)
I am not a baki in shas but chagiga 4b addresses this, the only way to die prematurely (acc to that gemarah) is if you are engaging in risky behavior. So from what I can tell you can label driving risky behavior and ban it.
But being shot isn’t a risky behavior on your part. So if someone is meant to die he will die in a mugging or getting hit by a bus, what is the difference?Yserbius
you gave some good reasons, Hunting, self protection, sport shooting its fun (all of the above)
so why are those reasons not “coherent”?CT
As I have pointed out before all these comments are pretty foolish but it doesnt take into account numerous realities
If tomorrow the second amendment is abolished, what percentage of people will comply and what will be the consequences for non compliance
Certainly we can assume there are millions of unregulated weapons. But what about the registered ones. Do you assume everyone will just hand in there 400 million or so weapons?
Or as history has shown, will they be more likely to ignore the govt, and all you have accomplished is making millions of citizens into criminals
what is my proof?
the NYS safe act that required registration of “assault weapons” and according to Forbes was disregarded by 95% of owners
That was just registration. can you imagine confiscation?
civil war is a more likely scenario than complianceI’ve never understood this
One older single is a tragedy, the parents need to create a second tragedy?!
Incidentally
A “source” for this brought in a chassidish tshuva is lavan
He told Yaakov (when he switched Leah) we don’t allow the younger to marry bf the older and Yaakov didn’t answer backCoffee
Affordable is always defined by how much money you’ve got in the bank. For many people going back-and-forth business every time is affordable.
Anyway, in terms of my post, you will always find renting an apartment more affordable than two hotel rooms
Depending upon the area you want the typical price for an apartment is usually below even one hotel room
Not to mention, you will have a lot more room and depending on the building parking
But like everything else prices have gone up
Before Covid you can probably rent a car in Israel for $25 a day and now it’s more like 75+
But at least the price of gas still stable at about eight dollars a gallonUjm
You are looking at this the wrong way
There are many tzaddikim willing to part with their hard earned money so they can do mitzvos
It is much easier to learn and concentrate on tefilla sitting in the isolated pods of business class
Not to mention no issue of sitting next to a woman
I envy their olam haba for making this financial sacrificeAmirican
I don’t know about cheap but it depends on your needs
Personally I prefer apartments (and I eat out)
Try
reservekosher.com the kitchen is kosher. They have a great apartment above kikar shabbos but I think only 1 bedroom (there are others to choose from)
I’ve stayed at isrentals on Monbaz street. It’s an apartment building with 1 and 2 bedroom apartments (and parking) it’s right off haneviim and a 7 minute walk to meah shaarim. (You can book on Expedia)
I’ve also stayed at other buildings in that area booked through AirbnbDesperate
I am not aware of a heter to daven facing an ervah
I’m pretty sure it’s a bracha levatala
Even the flight attendants can be an issue (skirt length)
The eitzah is daven facing the wall.El Al is more understanding . But the will isn’t always there . Not everyone wants to wake up 4 hours after takeoff.
I am the proactive type. So I put on my talis and walk over to the bulkhead doors and start davening. It’s usually enough to get others moving and join me. But I will always daven netz rather than assume a minyan will form later.Dr E
In our circles the roshei yeshiva would probably refuse to be mesader if you insisted on having one signed
out of curiosity
on there any statistics on get refusal before and after the MO get prenup?ujm
if i wasn’t getting dates based on my references I would think the logical next step is to get new referencesOP
Its a weird question and I am assuming there is an underlying point. So why not just come right out and say what is on your mind
Obviously, if there was a magic question there wouldn’t be cases of agunah (and I might add that women can be guilty of this also. I know a couple of cases of this, though admittedly the husband was allowed a heter meah)
and if UJM is correct in his assessment then maybe it is time to get a dating coachNot a huge flyer but I went twice this year
El Al had a minyan delta didn’t
FYI
You can’t daven facing a not tznius woman. Which was definitely a problem even on el Al. So it would be better to daven not with a minyan than in a minyan where you need to face women
Go to MyZmanim . They will give you the exact sunrise times for your flight, so that if need be you can daven in your seat at netz. Which on the nighttime flights are usually around 3 1/2 to 4 hours after takeoff..OP I don’t think you understand the subject of divorce
Dayanim can be involved if the parties ended up in front of a BD to argue / hammer out a divorce agreement. But this is completely unnecessary. And only done for people that can’t reach compromises in other ways.
But the get is presided over by a rav who is an expert . This Rav may have absolutely no knowledge about why these parties are standing in front of him. he will only confirm that it’s not a hasty decision by reaching out to the rabbis involved in the case.
So reaching out to the dayanim of a BD (assuming there is one) would be helpful. But I would assume that ethical standards would prohibit them from talking about a case brought before them.
The smarter thing is to not just call up the references on the resume.Ujm
First, I don’t agree with your examples
He didn’t steal a pen he stole millions
Second I don’t agree that the evidence isn’t enough to convict, the pics placed him at the scene of the crime at the time of the crime when he lied about being there
And lastly every jury has to deal with the different circumstances of each case and reach a decision. Every case is different.
If I had enough circumstantial evidence then I would take into account the total of the evidence including the character of the individual and past behaviorUjm
You are reaching. You will notice that in all my posts on the subject I made reference to violent offenders.
The only time I implied jail for stealing is because people were arguing that there was not sufficient evidence to convict him of murder. On that, I made the point that if you didn’t feel that you had enough evidence for a murder conviction than add on the fact that he is for sure a big thief and you can assuage your conscience for tossing him in jail.
But to answer your question, no, I am not a fan of jail for nonviolent offenders.