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Querty why are you so angry? Lol. Because….?

Happy new year so which God is it that these other nations are worshiping if the base of their religions is abrahamic law and biblical text? Lol with add ons from their sapposed prophets. Which God are they serving? Idolitry means they are serving idols. I don’t think Islam, mormanism, and Christianity serve idols.
Even tho Christians consider yushke to be like God. They still believe in the base of their religion to be the biblical text with add on from their prophet.
So Islam has mahamud as their prophet
Christianity has yushke as their prophet
Mormanism has what’s his name as their prophet
And judism has Moshe as their prophet
Each nation has Islamic add ons to their religion
Islam has the koran
Morman has the book of morman
Christianity has the new testament
Judism has the talmud
What all these religions share in common is that the Torah or the biblical written text is part of their religion
There are other religions that actually serve idols I wouldnt put these four religions on the list
Each religion thinks he’s more true then the next.
I wouldn’t consider them “serving other gods”
Perhpas they elevate their prophet to be like God and listen to his translations like it’s the word of God but Jewish people do the same thier rabbanim and their “prophets” not sure how we are any different.
Anyways it would seem to me that these other nations are just serving God in their own direction and intrpetations but if you ask me I wouldn’t consider this “idol worship” as this is what for them has been passed down for generations form their sapposed “prophets” idolitry in my understanding is comepletly different ballgame.

Happy new year. Right….bully? Are you talking to yourself and querty cuz last time I checked the hatred vitreol and anger is coming from the both of you. Again show me where I read the pesukim out of context? Nobody pointed out factual holes in my logic all I heard was insults. I can’t hear over the childish anger. Can you.
Reading the pesukim in context is very important so we don’t add dogma where dogma and extrmism is unnecessary because that makes people have a very disconnected and false connection to reality and also a false and extemist connection to God wich I personally think harms people in a general sense. Similar to how any abusive redoric or person is harmful. If you want to believe God is abusive go ahead. But personally I would think that the same way you would consider a person place or thing with extemist viewpoints to be abusive and we are all made in the image of God I also personally believe that an extremist mindset or belief system is unhealthy and very bad for people. It’s ok to argue about reality. Your trying to make argument the problem because it doesn’t fall in line with your extreme viewpoint. That shows how fascist you are unable to have real dialogue and turning to vilification instead of real conversation to push your agenda.
That’s not truth or fact that’s extrmism, if you look how liberals act your acting in a very similar fashion. If your belief system cannot hold up to scrutiny and you fail to be able to have real dialogue your belief system is the problem don’t you think. I think personally that it’s important to translate things _corectly_ so that life doesn’t become suffering instead of joyful. Because imagine your whole life living by dogma instead of truth that’s a very hard suffering life. That’s my personal viewpoint. Theres nothing wrong with having real dialogue. The fact that you can’t shows how crazy you are

Yittish definitely appreciate the comment but if you think I’m taking half these posters seriously lol. Not sure they pass muster to the intelligence test. Everything I say fills them with blind rage. Maybe the demons inside them can’t stand actually having an intellectual conversation.
Sad they rather conform act clique comepletly shirk any sense and they also claim to be the bane of socioty. They keep showing their true colors which is a complete lack of morality or grasp of real life principles. When did they lose their humanity? Not sure somewhere between mincha and Maariv. Thier living examples of what’s wrong with our socioty. Imagine them compounded by thousands of other crazy people. And they call themselves the most elite of socioty. No they are the lowest. When they start showing true charachtor maybe God will “hear from heaven, forgive their sin, and heal their land.” But until they don’t connect their actions to the reactions they are receiving not just on this forum, but all around them in socioty, only until they realize that every action has a reaction and until they get rid of their stubborn cruelty, life or God won’t show them much grace. Unfortunately the world does not see Jewish people as innocent anymore, is it because of our own corruption within? Is God unhappy with us? By the looks of it. I would say yes. But like the past when God says the Jewish nation is stubborn. Its in our blood isn’t it. To fight against the truth because we refuse to see sense. If we don’t wakeup soon we are in trouble. But sometimes doors that hear a knock have no one home to answer and I sometimes I don’t feel sorry.
But _im_ the bad guy haha funny joke. The mirror clearly doesn’t show them their true reflection does it

Querty honestly if your calling me a lunatic, dunno if you read your posts but one or the most crazy retarded angry vitreol comes from you. Lol look in the mirror. Having a basic conversation without insults is literally impossible. Let’s see what the definition of lunatic is:
Lunacy;

Affected by lunacy; mentally deranged.
Of or for people who are mentally deranged.
Wildly or giddily foolish.
a lunatic decision.

Sounds like you querty. Maybe it’s time to calm down. And think. And have a real conversation for once without name calling.

Querty I never said God has no right to keep our commandments don’t push fake realities I did not speak of. I said that the Torah is a book of morals, grounded in realistic thinking. That means any extreme ways of thinking that are unhealthy the Torah doesn’t condone. And I brought very real proofs to prove my point showing such. You really are a drama queen. Go watch your TV ok? And tell me what morals you learn therin lol

“A society that does not allow dialogue is often described as totalitarian or authoritarian, where the ruling class enforces silence to maintain control and prevent dissent. In Plato’s Republic, a fictional society is depicted where the “guardians” suppress dialogue among the lower classes, using censorship, deception, and institutionalized lies to keep the populace docile and unquestioning.

While such a society might achieve short-term stability through collective conformity and the suppression of individualism, it ultimately relies on fear and force rather than genuine social cohesion. Historical and philosophical critiques suggest that without the ability to engage in open dialogue or critical discourse, a society becomes fragile, as members cannot resolve disputes or adapt to changing conditions through negotiation or reason.

In real-world contexts, the absence of dialogue often leads to social fragmentation, emotional exhaustion, and the marginalization of those who attempt to remain neutral or seek compromise. Without the mechanism of dialogue, societies may resort to activism, ridicule, or exclusion to manage conflict, which erodes the foundations of a healthy democracy and respectful coexistence”

You agree with the above querty? Really? Anyone who does is a fool and a fascist show me where in any other situation you would consider the same thing done to you ok? You wouldn’t this is fascist behaviour. You think God is a fascist. Your a fool

You shall have no other gods before Me,
You shall have no other things you worship as God before _Me_
You shall have no other things you place as important as God before _Me_
Cuz that will blind you from keeping true morality.
This can mean many things. It can mean worshipping people or placing people as if they are God.
It can mean a lot of things

Querty calm down. First, tv kept out of homes is a very good thing because tv espouses the wrong value system and makes doing bad things look good. TV is a propaganda machine for living against basic morality. It normalizes morally corrupt behavior using acters we are familiar with so that monkey see monkey do. And tv and perhaps the education system to this day is prob the reason why anyone under 25 in the non Jewish world is confused about their gender. It doesn’t lead to life it leads to death….I personally can handle watching YouTube and the like and my own tv shows cus I’m old enough to discern these things but exposing this to family at a young age isn’t very wise so I agree it should be kept out of homes
Second I wouldn’t say its dangerous to endorse what I’m saying. Chill. I’m speaking againts sheeple speak because it turns people into the angry mob. There’s nothing wrong with learning and having a grasp of reality and understanding right and wrong and morality.
Explain to me one thing that I said that was grounded in facts and morality?
Go

Querty tell me one thing I said that was false? One thing that didn’t make sense and one thing that went against biblical principles. The truth is you don’t have an answer because your not operating from truth seeking. But being a sheep. And for you that’s akin to the highest morality. Or on the same wavelength as morality.
Do you know what right and wrong _is_ or you just know sheeple speak and you do whatever your told. You need to think individually in order to have an opinion about something the way you quickly shut down and villify others doesn’t point to you having truth it means your blinded by your hatred at anything that speaks differently then what you are tought. That’s not truth. That’s fear. And I personally do not believe fear helps people get to the truth. If ever. There’s not thing wrong with thinking those things

Happy new year. That doesn’t translate into speaking of other religions lol. It says gods. Gods have specific names. Religion is not gods. Alot of religions are based off abrahamic principles and differant translations of the Bible. Please stop mistranslating things for an extreme agenda.
I’m not adding laws I’m trying to get to the actual translation of the actual law.Which means reading words and translation in context and correctly. That means getting rid of things that aren’t written lol.

I don’t agree with fallowing scientific people either as they also use their authority to push agendas it’s the same game different elements. But I hear your point and your right. If we don’t verify what we are told we are liable to make life changing decisions that can impact generations

“afflicted” by difference of oppion.
What your doing is adding rules to reality that don’t exist thus causing yourself suffering that is unnecessary cheating a dichotomy of suffering by adding rules that don’t exist to make yourself feel more pios. That’s so sad. Pesach is freeing yourself from these manipulative chains. Maybe come out of mitzrayin which internal suffering you add to your own life by your extemist views on life. Adding rules you do not have to keep to feel more virtues then necessary. I’m sorry your suffering it’s so sad

Also Rd you have no clue what avoda zara actually is. If you did you wouldn’t be saying half of what your saying. Shows you have no grasp of these concepts in real life. Pushing control agendas cuz your so miserable. I’m glad you live like that doesn’t mean other people have to as well. Also as a side note having an extreme mindset and putting authorities extreme oppinion higher then the word of God, is actually a form of serving other gods.
Your placing other people’s intellect above your own God given intellect and saying their words are as holy as the word of God, which inherinitly is a form of idol worship because your placing other “gods” or people you consider as God before God himself. So you yourself is an idol worshiper lol and you don’t even realize it

Rd teitlabaum
Always ask questions
Querty
Is this what your advocating for rather then using morals grounded in wisdom and understanding which comes from free will? :

“Blind followership erodes a person’s moral compass by causing individuals to ignore their own ethical values and suppress dissenting opinions to maintain harmony or conformity. This state of disengagement leads people to accept presented information without critical evaluation, effectively allowing their conscience to be overridden by authority figures”

Rd tietalbaum I wouldn’t make fun of me if I were you as we um revealed the fact that you were quoting revelation which is the Christian Bible. So if you want to point fingers at me I wouldn’t do that would I

Happy new year translation is very important. Alot of people translate the second part of that sentence to “you must be cut off from among the people”
When it translates to “you “will”be cut off from among the people” these very distinct meanings have very distinct translations to real life.
Because when it says you will be cut off from among the people that’s not a punishment that is given to you by Devine will or by community but by the spiritual consequences of your actions. It’s a spiritual embodiment and feeling that you will experience when you do something againts God. The reason I bring that up first isn’t because when it says “surely you shall die, or be put to death” it’s possibly a similar spiritual experience because many people are mechalel Shabbat and yet their still alive. So it has to be some form of internal death or spiritual death that occurs when someone is mechalel Shabbat and it’s not necessarily literally, and I understand that the literal translation can be used to push control agendas,
At the same time, if we look at the original “and surely you shall die” in the garden of eden, there was no literal death.
So we can conclude that sometimes when it speaks of death it is talking spiritually

I know it was an honest mistake. But next time before you publicly humiliate me and try to shut me down, check your sources? Ok?

Rd tietalbaum I did a little digging cuz I was curious what you were talking about regarding curses and unfortunely I’m going to have to expose you for not being Jewish and nobody should listen to a word you say because you were quoting _revalation_ which is the new testament. Lol I don’t think you belong on this site. How do you feel now eh. Take that