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Whoa relax. Theres a lot of fear mongering goin on, threats, bs. Someone said someone else will get “punished” cuz they don’t conform to someone else’s way of thinking great. That’s not how someone mature makes arguments. And that rabbi is not god no offenseI think in some form who would protect Israel if not the zionists lol like you think you’d be able to live and learn in Israel without an army. Slow much
The entire secular world has been taken over by big corporations and big box stores and the entire world is subservient to that. The Jewish world at least has their own businesses and everything stays insular. Even the basic pay in the Jewish world is much much more then pay elsewhere where the minimum wage isn’t livable.
Chaim87
I agree with you with a caveat. Not everything we do is to “get closer to hashem”
We are here to live, struggle face adversity, learn lessons, be _human_ learn right and wrong and live like human beings. Through living and the our natural falls and throughout life the hand of God will naturally reveal itself to us and through that we will become closer to God out of appreciation.
But I think balance is necessary.
Gluttony overspending does not make a good person
But selling everything you are to worship something else isn’t the answer either. Balance is key. Extremism is not
If the sole purpous of life is to shed our humanness and cling to God which means lots and lots of self sacrifice and suffering. God would have kept us in heaven without putting us on earth to learn who we are. There needs to be balance
Extreme gluttony to extreme extremism, there’s a middle pathWhen it talks about mashiach being the “tribe of Judah” it was talking about a personality figure more then anything.
Tribe of Judah, represents an entire constalation of specific personality traits that mashiach will embodyThw shevatim represent every month of the year. When you were born is which “shevet” you are part of. The shavatim flags represents the constelations of the month of the year
If you look of personality of specific shevatim, or “purpous” you will see peoples months align with their nature.Hakatan, a living contradiction smh
It’s great entertainment keep talkingZionism was the tool God used to get us into the land of Israel. That’s what I’m saying. There’s a lot of examples of things that look bad but ending being a tool for good.
Not sure how you jumped to the holocaust that’s just pure dramatization and lunacy. I would never say that about the holocaust. Thank youI never said that stop putting words in my mouth.
I said sometimes bad things are good things. I was not talking about the holocaust. How did you jump to the holocaust. Not because _im_ crazy prob because you are the lunatic lol.
Calm down and think.
Sometimes a bad thing like _zionism_ can be lead up to good things religious people living in eretz yisroel.
Your constantly using crazy examples to disprove my point while calling _me_ crazy.
Please stop making a fool of yourselfSomejewiknow
Truth will find you no matter what safe space you look at.
“Antisemitic vitroel”
Wow what a nice way of saying you can’t handle anybody who speaks facts.
Cute keep running away from reality. It suits you.Zionists gave klal yisroel is real, so sometimes bad things are good things. Just depends how you look at it.
Not saying I agree with them but Israel wouldn’t exist without zionism. Nor would klal yisroel living in the holy land.
You need both sides of the coin. The ones willing to fight for the land and the religious people. You can’t have both.Somejewiknow
Before you read discern, listen, think about you jump to angry vitroel because you can’t handle anyone with critical thinking skills.
Do you know what cognitive dissonance is. It’s youYaakove yosef are you serious.
I saw them once in my life for five minutes that doesn’t mean I’m fixated on nothing. Your constantly assuming. Calm down. And yes this is exactly what I observed when I saw them. It was very clear for everyone to see. Maybe your blind. That’s okYaakov yosef, they fallow their own crowd and have very strict rules among themsleves. You really need to calm down with jumping down people’s throughts. Just because they don’t fallow the crowd or any other crowd they still have their own extrmism among themsleves. And if you observe them you can see that.
Yaakov yosef smh
I used celebrities as a dystopian _example_
You can use that example to apply to slightly relevant examples among the from community. Or see where spending extravagantly might be wrong. You really need to calm down.
Well, I don’t know, if that’s the norm, maybe not but there is a point where spending obscene money makes people out of touch with reality, seem a little glutenous. Just look at five towns.
But again it depends on the situation.Somejewiknow so your saying no one forms their own oppions about anything and if they do their extremists or out of touch with the “status qoa” got you.
People aren’t desighned to fallow authority all the time they are formed to read, learn and come to their own conclusions about things. That’s not a crime but of course you have to include “rabbi kook” to make it look like critical thinking is a crime cute. Carry on with your delusionsChiefshmerel. Interesting thank you for your two cents. It’s enlightening
Yaakov yosef I’m not talking about shiener. I was just giving examples of how and why and when spending extravagantly might be morally wrong.
Cuz you said it’s not an avairah. Cuz it doesn’t say it anywhere. You don’t need something to be written to know whether something is right or wrong.
But I wasn’t talking about anyone specific just giving examplesYaakov yosef. Your wrong there’s something inherently wrong with living beyond your means, shoving your good works in everybody else’s faces. I think there’s a time when doing what you want makes sense and it’s none of everybody’s business but let’s say you live in an impoverished neighborhood, wouldn’t you think it’s a little corrupt to walk around and spend so much money while everybody’s struggling? This is just an example of when something like that would be wrong. It’s like celebrities spending millions on an out fit while the little people struggle to eat. There’s something out of touch, callous and dystopian about it
Square root sorry about your experience it’s getting obvious that that happens to everyone no matter what they say on here. Sadly
Well, that was alot of comebacks. But querty I think you got the point
I see a lot of appeal to authority about zionism. Does anyone have their _own_ oppinion or what they think. We can argue what someone said from today till tommarow we will never fully know their intentions anybody have their own oppion
Neutorei karta a bunch of blind sheeple
I think they are a living example of what happens when you fallow the crowd and don’t think for yourself.
I saw them somewhere and I felt very bad for them
You can see on their faces how much of extreme fallowers they are. How they sell themselves for their ideologies and have no self. It’s sad.This is pairing a very broad brush….theres s lot of “zionists” that aren’t part of the government. It’s like saying the government who sent everyone to murder the entire iraqi region makes everyone in America evil. Is that really true?
What are you”making me drink” not one word you said was decent, not one argument you brought to the table fallows logic. All you have is insults And Villificatjkn and you expect people to listen to you because?
You have nothing to bring to the table except insults and chAractor assisnations and you expect people to listen to you. Your insufferable and slightly cruel. It would be smart to stop exposing yourself thers nothing your saying that holds “water” so maybe when you have something decent to say. A part of the conversation you want to actually converse like a normal person then maybe someone will take you seriously until then you just seem like, the bottom of the barrel. I don’t have interest in any of your viewpoints as none of them refuted mine. So please stop being so stuck up to say you drew anyone to “water” you draw everyone to the swamp. Nobody is drinking from your swamp. SorryQuerty did I hear you say “if you draw a horse to water”
Right, so you can villify someone, make fun of someone humiliate them for having a critical thinking oppion, somehow that’s you “drawing a horse to water” the amount of insufferable delusion you live with. Wow. I wonder what mental gymnastics you have to jump through so you don’t have to face reality. Maybe tell us so we can learn how to live a full life without facing reality we really want to knowMods don’t post that last post. Let this guy live in his delusions. Post the second to last ones tho
I also don’t think proving to me how far away you are from whatever. I don’t care. And this isn’t hatred this is reaction by your own sick twisted behavior on how you treat people. Your an insufferable person. First you insult me, villify me call me names. Degrade me humiliate me all over having a normal oppion, and then you have the audacity to say “if you draw a horse to water you can’t make him drink”
Since when were you talking to me in a decent enough manner that I would want to listen to you. All you’ve done is degrade me over the pettiest thing. Please. The only person who needs to change his disgusting behaviour here is you. Please. Your a sick person honestly. Very sick and very sad. I almost feel bad for you. But no actually I don’tQuerty it was a retoricL question. I don’t really care what you have to say at this point. You prob should stop answering to save face you keep exposing yourself as a fraud to your own upringing. Maybe when you admit reality exist. Like words have distinct meanings, common sense is real. You know like reality. Basic concepts. Maybe we can have a discussion until then just shove it. Ok?
But I don’t want you to get in trouble so don’t take my word for it. Honestly do what makes sense for you and be willing to live with those consenquences
I think there is a certain point where keeping rules must be put aside when those rules become demonic, or controlling. Being a goody goody isn’t always the answer. I wouldn’t say fill it out fraudulently but there is a time and place to skirt rules. Especially when they are becoming crazy
Being honest despite the circumstances isn’t always wisdom
Keeping rules even if it destroys you and because an entity forces you, isn’t being righteous. Hopefully soon things will change here in america but until then I don’t see why people in another country need to pay taxes to America too that’s crazyNo it’s not my loss quaurty. It’s my gain. I don’t have time for hot air arguments based in la la land. So actually if I were to listen to your dumb whatever, I’d be wasting my time. But thanks so much for your “kindness”
Maybe one day when you look in the mirror and actually look at your actions clearly maybe then you’ll understand why someone might get slightly frustrated with your asinine way of talking.
It’s called rightous anger.
It’s called for especially with how twisted your logic is and how full of holes you are. It’s surprising you made it this far in life without falling smack on your faceAlot of health articles, even the whole transgender agenda is a lot of manipulated science. The entire system needs to be taken with a grain of salt.
You don’t always need paper to tell you basic facts I think science got lost on me when I was reading about baking soda “science says baking soda is very harsh”
I don’t think science needs to spell out the obvious and for any thinking person science _is_ observation. Our eyes can also observe too and see patterns and come to conclusions without controlled settings and the like. So critically thinking first then use science to prove those points I guess. That’s what I do. Not the other way around. Science can easily be taken out of context and used to push an agenda. Reality is very important to know first so you can filter science correctly.I’m not sure what your asking. A reference to what paper?
I write in simple language querty so even someone like you can understand. You know what’s also written in 3 year old language so stupid people can understand it. The Torah.
“And Moses said, say unto the nation” yes simplistic speech is important to get the message across. So you don’t misinterpret things you know what I mean
Somehow tho querty despite your so called higher intelligent writing as you claim you can’t get passed three year old logic which is so funny hahaAlso for someone who thinks he’s on the derech listening to stairway to heaven. Wow that’s out of the box.
“Is it just my imagination or do you also think that “rescue” doesn’t like me”
Don’t play stupid games and get stupid prizes. Your think you can talk to anybody anyway you want and not get some form or reaction?
That’s interesting
Almost as interesting as the sky being blue. Duh.
That’s not “dislike” thats called reaction to an action.
Every time you open your mouth querty no offense you reveal to all of us how disconnected you are from basic common sense and that’s so so sad. But keep doing your living in la la land like you can do no wrong despite the wrong you do do….somehow real life is going to act differently towards you cuz you so “special”I don’t need to listen to you just because you say something. That’s not how reality works. And you don’t listen to me either. Goes in one ear out the other so stop being a hypocrite. And I feel bad for whoever hears your dvar Torah. It’s prob filled with fear mongering, hatred, name calling, and exremisms which is the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen. So no thanks buddy I’ll pass
And I don’t need to listen to you. I listen to sense. When you have a proper argument to refute mine, not just hot air insults cuz you have no good comeback. Maybe, maybe I’ll listen. Till then keep running away from facts. It makes you look so mature
I’m not interested in your dvar Torah. Thanks but no thanks.
The only person not listening is you. Please look in the mirror thanksAlways ask questions I hear your point but, I think your the one percent. I deal with college educated people _all_ day and all I can say is indoctrination is 100%
They think in very analytical terms yes. They say a lot of great words yes. They bring a lot of studies to the table yes but they are so disconnected from reality take an example I had recently arguing that God exists
The person who i was arguing with said something like: if you want to get to truth you can’t use logic
They brought up the watchmakers fallacy. The conversation from their end sounded on paper to be very intelligent _but_ they were missing something very important that made them completely delusional, real life experience, common sense.
They argued delusion to the point it sounded like truth, but it was so out of touch with basic realistic thinking. I think this is why God said don’t eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil cuz it makes a lot of people miss the point.Always ask questions the entire world is lacking in good jobs also. I don’t think there’s a real fix for that. Soon ai is taking over and things are going to be…different….maybe better but different, also people should be looking into blue color work if they want a real job I think that’s the only jobs left on the market at this point
And you can see this from people arguing about “communism”
“Abortion” just about anything that is indoctrinated speak. There’s lots of slogans “studies” but little fact so before jumping into studies take everything with a grain of saltAlways ask questions I agree with you. But don’t use studies against reality to the point that reality says one thing and studies say another. If studies are “observation” then use your own observations skills as well. I think that study that says education or indoctrination = higher IQ. It sounds nice on paper but so far if you look around you….I’m not sure it’s true lol
Authority and “science” and scientific observation is not the only thing people should be relying on. Common sense and their own observation of said facts and critical thinking are extremely important for discernment of facts.
The problem is with a lot of “educated” people, is especially college indoctrinated in the general sense, is that they see things on paper think it sounds good. Run with it to make and agree with pivotal life choices, but they don’t have enough experience or understanding of reality and discernment to see that the resume or the pretty ideologies on paper don’t translate the same in real life.You know what I noticed querty, not only are you insanely cruel over the most pettiest things. Which is insanity, your also crazy. And that’s very very sad.
Please before you insult others don’t open your mouth your revealing how pathetic your and extreme, out of touch and imiture your way of thinking is
You reveal your inability to have a _regular_ conversation about basic facts
Your need to destroy and other anything and anybody that does anything outside your extreme mindset
Remind me again who you represent? Oh right the Jewish people
And what are the Jewish people according to you? “Perfect” and “the most giving among all nations” right querty keep convincing yourself that your kinder then everybody else your abject cruelty is seeping into every post, every conversation, breathe look around you observe stop being a foolish sheep that can’t think for himself. Cuz look what you turn into. A disgusting monsterYaakov yosef. So your saying words can have two meanings. Right….please no it cannot.
I don’t believe there is a holocaust….because I said yirah should be define _correctly_ are you slow or something? Again, yirah means awe
So the time for wisdom is the _awe_ of God.
First of all your post just showed me how crazy you are….
I don’t believe in the holocaust according to you
I state _correctly_ that yirah means awe not fear so somehow I’m thinking not according to your terms of how I should be thinking.
I’m not sure who’s making himself look like a collosal fool me or you?!
Your litterlly so imiture you act angry when someone says anything, anything at all.
I’m not sure who’s acting like a 3 year old but you just revealed to me how incapable you are of having a mature conversation and honestly wow I see how far you are from reality and also how slow you are.
That doesn’t make _me_ the 3 year old. I think you just revewlad to everybody who’s the 3 year old lolI never said I don’t believe there’s. Concept of fearing hashem. Wow, I said let’s translate words _coreectly_ so we don’t mistranslate things and define things incorrectly. My goodness
Sorry wrong thread.