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Randomex: Of course no one disagrees with it. My point is that YIE took that concept and used it to bulldoze the Halachos entirely to “more feel the loss”. It’s akin to me saying, “God gave us Halachos of Kashrus to avoid putting improper things into our body, so how could you dare eat? Live off an IV!” We have Halachos and guidelines and there is never anything wrong with figuring out what they are. To attempt to shame someone away from doing so, frankly, is despicable.
PAA: Every set of T’shuvos R’ Akiva Eiger numbers them differently. It’s 1:1 in mine.
PBA: Really? That’s not her fault. Don’t wonder, don’t stare. She’s not causing you to stare by keeping her clothes clean. Assume she washes them and move on. I won’t say that’s the most ridiculous Tznius thing I’ve heard (because I’ve heard plenty more ridiculous ones), but it’s just stupid.
Talking to your Rabbi about the fact that she doesn’t like him, especially when she told you not to, is a serious violation of Lashon Hara, Ona’as D’varim, Halbanas P’nei Chaveiro, and probably many more.
PAA: I’m pretty sure that is exactly what it means in all contexts. Which, according to R’ Akiva Eiger’s Hava Amina, makes a fascinating Chiluk between single and married women repeating Bentsching on Yom Tov is they forget Ya’aleh V’yavo.
ca: I don’t know what to say. I won’t argue on the Arizal. I’ll just say that, in Nigleh, this would appear to directly contradict a Passuk.
1) yak okay
2) duck cud
3) llama mall
4) crab arc
5) lion oil
6) gnat tang
These were not hard. I’m not gonna lie, I’m kinda disappointed.
PAA: Yes. The Ralbag held what he held and was widely condemned for it. He said something similar to the Rambam (that the Rambam also got condemned for at the time) and took it even farther. I’m not saying that his Shittah wouldn’t be Apikorsus for any of us to say, but he certainly said it.
yie: Yosifon (Josippon) was written wholely in Biblical Hebrew, which is part of its intrigue. It claims to be written by Josephus but is most likely a later pseudopigrapha. I am not holding in whether the Rishonim mean this Sefer when they quote “Yosifon” or they are actually referring to Josephus’ other works.
yie: Actually, the Zohar is entirely its own dialect of Aramaic, one which is often much easier to read than Yerushalmis (mostly because it often uses full sentences).
PBA: Ah, I see your point. I apologize for ever being Choshesh you to act Shelo K’din. I’ll restate my post.
If the latter, there is no issue.
If the former, then there is no way there is enough Mamashus of hot meat on a popcorn kernel to affect your pot and there’s no way that that’s not Lifgam and… ew.
PAA: The Rambam basically says that (maybe in the Iggeres on astrology) that when Chazal say something that we know to be false via empirical evidence (to him meaning rationalist logic and/or scientific evidence) then we can say that those statements of Chazal were in error. (It is unclear if he is even talking about statements that have Halachah L’ma’aseh applications or just Aggad’ta/scientific statements. The former is what makes more sense for him to have meant but the latter just sits better with our sensibilities.)
PBA: If the latter, there is no issue. If you want to be Machmir boil up a pot of water (you don’t have to wait Ben Yomo) to be M’vatel the NA”T BAR NA”T D’heteira.
If the former, then there is no way there is enough Mamashus of hot meat on a popcorn kernel to affect your pot. If you want to be Machmir you can do a Hagala after Ben Yomo but there’s no way that that’s not Lifgam and… ew.
Just to be clear, you are worried about Mamashus in the oil on the popcorn directly touching the pot? Or you’re worried about the oil (which itself is only meat via Nosein Ta’am) making the pot meat, which would be a Nosein Ta’am Bar Nosein Ta’am? Meaning anything cooked in the pot is totally fine because it’s a Nosein Ta’am Bar Nosein Ta’am Bar Nosein Ta’am?
PBA: Whoa whoa whoa. Months-old Mamashus is without question Nosein Taam Lifgam.
R’ Moshe says in a T’Shuvah that it’s Assur, so that makes them Pareve, no?
PBA: Tasa’a Gavar means the thing that isn’t moving, not direct top or bottom. I think that’s a Rashba.
Also, I believe there are those who say L’ma’aseh that for there to be any Havla’ah the contact has to last long enough to heat up the Tasa’ah for Yad Soledes Bo.
ben: I’m sure I’d find it if I looked through them again. I think the Rogotchover might even point it out.
HaLeiVi: I meant Nida, as ben mentioned. There are also some who read the Rambam that way (I hear it, though I don’t think it’s Pshat). I think the Meiri also brings down such a Shittah.
Yosi: That’s just not true. I can hear that some might read a Tosfos in Yevamos (51b or so) that way, but that’s not what Tosfos said and, as far as I have seen, no one says like that.
PAA: We skip it because it’s called a Moed? That’s the reason for Tachanun. Don’t you usually not say Lamnatzeach in a Beis Avel? Isn’t that why it’s skipped on Tishah B’av?
Ivdu: According to the Psak of the SH”A, what 42 said. I have heard Poskim say that we can be Meikel like several other (minority) opinions in the Rishonim (e.g. that it’s not Abizraihu of Arayos, that it’s a D’rabannan, or that Niddah only applies to one’s own wife) because this is a case of Safek Pikuach Nefesh. Others have pointed out that laws of Pikuach Nefesh don’t apply to YVY cases and therefore we should follow the majority opinion and treat this as YVY. (The three potentials mentioned above are very minority opinions.)
PBA: You remind me of something R’ Schachter is fond of saying. He points out that Ben Gurion claimed to be an atheist. R’ Schachter notes that he certainly wasn’t Frum, but no one who quotes Tanach so much in daily life could be a real atheist. K’pelech HaRimon Rakasech…
bym: Disagree. There’s no lack of Tznius in explaining Pshat in a Gemara. It’s just not so comfortable in a public setting.
I remember a friend once telling me about a Daf Yomi Shiur he attended. He said that there were a few lines that the Rabbi told them “read the Artscroll, it’s inappropriate to say out loud”. Which is, of course, absurd, arrogant, and ridiculous. If Chazal thought to write it down for us, it’s appropriate to learn.
mgh: A cute Pshat, but the word “Shah” as a ruler in Iran was first documented in the 16th century and linguists think it was borrowed from middle Median languages. Achashverosh was Babylonean, and would have been quite offended at a Median term for ruler being used for him. It would be like calling the President “Mr. Governor”.
PAA: I highly doubt it would pass moderation (it shouldn’t), but that should give you some indication of what it means.
PAA: Still no. I really, really don’t think it means colorful clothing. It means something else entirely.
BM: Source please? Because if I had to guess I would say you just made that up.
OTB: I’ve always wondered about that. The Kitzur says it’s not respectful. I haven’t seen a reason why or many others who say so (other than later Poskim who are quoting the Kitzur) but I haven’t seen anyone who explicitly disagrees either.
HaLeiVi: Yes, yes I do. I’m assuming they happen together.
Ben Melech: It’s a B’feirush Gemara that we have a Havtacha from HKBH that Moshiach will not come on Erev Shabbos or Erev Yom Tov.
PAA: Bigdei Tzivonim does not translate to “colored clothing”.
Ivdu: I would assume the S’vara is that once it’s meant as a replacement for Shem Hashem it gets some Kedushah. It’s an awful S’vara and a foolish Chumra with no basis. (And if you take it to it’s logical conclusion, once you turn “Hash-m” into something Kodesh you’d have to block out another letter and so on.)
If I had to guess, I would say it’s based on the same reasons Goyim started-and it’s a Gemara in Kesubos.
Ivdu: Sorry, I should have been clearer. Yes, on can be Yotzei remembering Mitzrayim all day. The M”B’s Efshar is about saying Birchos Krias Shma between 4-6 hours if there was an Ones.
Ivdu: It’s not intended or immediate by the refrigerator. You don’t care if the motor goes on now as long as the food stays cold (which it will for a day or two without the motor running). Immediacy is also important because otherwise who says that my action of opening the door is what caused it? It goes on every few hours on its own anyway. So by the water fountain, it’s Assur if it’s immediate. The same would be true by the fridge; it just doesn’t really exist that a fridge would turn on immediately.
Ivdu: That could have been theoretical. Also, the Gemara does call it a stupid question.
PAA: I do not think that means what you think it means.
Torah (haven’t seen you post in a while but I’ll address this to you anyway): One of my cousins was at a Chassidish/Chareidi wedding in E”Y and he said the Kallah wore a black wedding dress. He asked the Chassan what Pshat was and he said that she felt uncomfortable wearing white because it’s not Tznius.
Psik Reisha means something will definitely happen (in the relatively immediate aftermath; but that’s a separate discussion). I am allowed to do something on Shabbos if I have no intention of it causing a Melacha (e.g. walking on grass even though some blades might get ripped out of the ground). But if what I am doing will definitely cause a Melachah to occur (e.g. I’m wearing long sports cleats and walk on grass) then it’s Assur. That’s the basic concept, least. There are plenty more details involved, but that’s the start.
Ivdu: The M”B says “Efshar”, but Pashut Pshat in the vast majority of Poskim is no.
Ivdu: First of all, Rishonim on Chumash argue on Chazal fairly often. That’s a discussion in its own right.
It’s not so weird here though. He could say the Mishnah means you make the Brachah on seeing the place where the miracle happened. That’s actually more Mistaber, because there are thousands of salt pillars there and the Mishnah and Gemara give no indication as to which one to make the Brachah on.
ari-free: I do not regularly read R’ Slifkin’s blog, but I have seen him explicitly state many times that he is not trying to remove mysticism and mystical interpretations from Judaism. He just wants to explain the rationalist position and why/how it is viable.
Ivdu: It all depends on if it’s a Psik Reisha or not. Many water fountains are. Some are not. I have yet to see a refrigerator where the motor turns on within seconds of the door being opened, every time. It might exist, but I don’t think it’s common.
Twisted: In the M”B with R’ Nebenzahl’s footnotes, he quotes R’ Shlomo Zalman that that was Shayach in the M”B’s day when everyone could handle black coffee and was used to it, thus adding sugar or milk was an unnecessary luxury that was Assur before Davening. Nowadays when people are so used to sugar and cream etc. and can’t handle black coffee, it’s okay to add what you usually add because that’s now an integral part of the coffee, not an unnecessary addition.
Ivdu: I thought everyone was in agreement that within Zman T’fillah (4 hours) it should be said.
The better question is is it Muttar to say the final Passuk between 4-6 hours in order to be Somech Geulah Litfillah.
Ivdu: I respectfully strongly disagree. The difference is that a refrigerator motor is never a Psik Reisha to turn on immediately. Some water fountains are.
Ivdu: Basically, your Shaila is this: Can you learn the parts of Torah that are also said in Davening on Tishah B’av? Meaning, can I learn the paragraphs of Shma in the afternoon? I would think a Davar Pashut that the answer is no.
Everything is reliable and nothing is certain. Mashiach can come anytime. When he will, no one knows. It’s a secret that Yaakov Avinu was Zocheh to know but his sons weren’t. Anyone who knew enough to give Remazim and Simanim just knew the Remazim. No one can tell you when because no one knows or has known since Yonasan Ben Uziel. He wanted to give a Pshat in Nach that might allow people to figure it out but HKBH didn’t let him.
So your claim is that you’re not trying to guilt-trip anyone, just that you’re trying to make them feel emotions you think they should be feeling? In other words, that’s called a guilt trip.
My entire point still stands. You are attempting to circumvent actual Halachic limits with an emotional response. You’re “krechtz”ing that people want to know the Halachah. Quite frankly, if I have to say one person in this conversation who is disconnected from proper feelings, it’s not the one asking the Shaila.
42: Actually, knowing R’ Chaim, it’s entirely possible that he meant that no one would gain anything from learning it.
42: You’re saying as a Kiyum in T’fillin?
And by the way, I think Chafetz Chayim is the only major place that does that. Most other people I’ve asked think that’s an Assur form of Divrei Torah on Tishah B’av.
yerushalmi in exile: I’m going to call you out on this, because it’s one of my biggest pet peeves and you just made a very unfair emotional attack on someone. Please forgive me if I’m too harsh with this.
With your argument, you can Asser anything. We know you can’t shower during the 9 days. Would an Aveil think to ask a Shaila about washing his hands? He’d be too stricken with grief to even think about it. How dare you even think to wash your hands during this Aveilus for the Churban??!
That argument is ridiculous because it is a clear exaggeration. But if a capella isn’t Assur, then your response to the a capella Shaila is just as ridiculous as my response to washing hands at all.
The fact is, there are Halachos. It’s not for us to try and find the feeling behind the Halachos and use that to attempt to circumvent the Halachah. If it’s Muttar, it’s Muttar. If it’s Assur, it’s Assur. But what you just did was attempt to use an emotional attack and to guilt-trip someone into not caring what the Halachah actually is. So yes, we were given the Halachos to find out the Halachos, not to guilt people into circumventing them.
HaLeiVi: Would you sit in a business meeting with a hat on?