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Srofin: This is where HaKatan first quoted him (that I saw): http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/does-neturei-karta-have-a-point/page/2#post-342522
This is where I called him out on it: http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/does-neturei-karta-have-a-point/page/3#post-342610
This is where he quoted it again several months later: http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/why-was-the-national-anthem-or-g-d-bless-ameirica-not-sung-by-siyum-hashas/page/6#post-403270
Ezer: I said the word either for a reason. There are some who hold like you said. Those would have to say that it was a Refuah back then and nowadays it looks like it isn’t. Others (namely, Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach) held differently.
Oh look, we found an account created less than 10 minutes ago accusing me of something in the past. Interesting, OOM, I think we need an official troll call here.
There is a massive difference there. If the Karaites started celebrating Purim would we stop? It happens that not-Frum people celebrate a Yeshua from HKBH. Why should that stop the rest of us? Can you tell me, by the way, what propaganda I ever used against Chareidim?
PBA: I hear. That’s the Tzitz Eliezer quoting the Ritva. But since we rely on our doctors for Pikuach Nefesh issues, we have to assume that they mostly know that they’re talking about. The fact that they’re inherently can’t be absolutely positive about anything is why it’s Muttar to do Metzitzah on Shabbos.
ROB: I think the New York Times article about the number of alumni and students protesting this award says a lot more about YU than those who are giving it.
Ezer: Either Chazal were informed by their doctors that it’s a medical necessity or at that time it really was a medical necessity and saved far more babies than it possibly harmed. Nowadays, though, it’s not true that it’s a medical necessity.
DY: One does not have to believe in the same thing that the Secular Zionists did in order to thank HKBH on days like Yom Ha’atzma’ut and Yom Yerushalayim or to commemorate the Holocaust on the day that they chose. I personally think they chose the wrong day. That doesn’t mean that I should grossly disrespect those who died and survived by trumpeting my disagreement with the seculars on this issue.
And even though the name in Israel is about Gevurah, if you were ever in any Dati Le’umi or “Modern Orthodox” day school, you’d know that the entire day is somber and about the deceased and the survivors, not about the fighting.
Truthsharer: Forget Perfidy, HaKatan has quoted much worse sources. He has quoted anti-Semites who claim that Jews run the world and that all the militaries of the world work for a Jewish mob boss (he doesn’t quote that claim, just other claims by the same guy).
GAW: THe Sdei Chemed, I believe, is the only one who holds it’s actually M’akev. Then again, Rav Schachter points out that he was probably exaggerating the Chomer of it in order to fight the reform (as the Sdei Chemed nearby quotes the T’shuvah of the Chassam Sofer that one may exaggerate the importance of Mitzvos or Minhag that the Haskalah was trying to abolish).
PBA: Disagree. It doesn’t matter what the Mohel holds. The Mohel is just the father’s Shaliach. So for this he holds whatever the father holds. He has to do the Metzitzah how the father tells him to.
If you saw President Joel’s statement, this is award is given by a student body vote and the students voted. The institution as a whole (Cardozo individually and YU as an umbrella) have no say in it whatsoever. The large majority of Cardozo students are not Jewish, and certainly not Frum. In fact, so many Cardozo alumni and YC, RIETS, and even Einstein students and alumni are so incensed by this award that they plan on peacefully protesting the giving of it-by forming a human chain and blocking all entrances to the school.
PBA: I’m just curious, is that even true? What Poskim hold that it must be Davka B’peh and not with a tube? I feel like most sources discussing it don’t say anything either way and those who refuse the tube are just reacting to a perceived attack on the religion.
Just my Hapence: SHU”T Chacham Tzvi Siman 63 is a good Ra’aya that there were rumors of a Golem closer to that time.
PBA: But that’s only when those risks are necessary. Also, Diracheha Darchei Noam. We have a Havtacha from HKBH that Mitzvos won’t be life-threatening unless they involve Kiddush Hashem. I’m not pro-government regulating it. I am very much pro us making sure that our Mohalim aren’t endangering babies.
PBA: I honestly think that he has the Din of a Moser, if not an outright Rodef.
DH: And this added day was during Sefira too.
HaLeiVi: Wasn’t that exactly what I said? The Rambam is an extreme minority opinion but that still doesn’t mean that is one allowed to make fun of him (or those who follow him)?
Shalom: It did originate by the Goyim. That is a pretty-well documented fact. You can argue (incorrectly, but you can attempt to claim) that they started entirely independently of us and therefore we didn’t take it from them and therefore it’s Muttar. But it did originate by them.
PBA: Safek Sakanah is a Kol Shehu. Even Echad Mini Elef.
And that’s your response? Not enough babies die? That’s ridiculous. It’s retarded. Should I say that I’m Pattur for going into a maternity ward and start attacking one out of every thousand babies with a hatchet because without medical care more than that would have died anyway? That’s stupid. It’s beyond stupid. It’s the dumbest thing you’ve ever said. If we can prove that this is life-threatening, then it’s life-threatening. Period. End of discussion.
Rant aside, I’m not saying ban MBP. But if Mohalim don’t know not to do it when they have a cold sore and we can’t get them all not to, then banning MBP might be the only choice.
First of all, DovBear is the second-most vile anti-Jewish “Frum” blogger out there and should never be quoted. Ever.
Second of all, (this is mainly towards midwesterner), if you look up the Mekoros, most of the Nihugei Aveilus during Sefirah are because of the Crusades, not R’ Akiva’s students, and were instituted well after the time of Chazal.
It was YD 251, obviously. Sorry for the typo.
Trumos and Maasros become D’oraisa. (Well, according to R’ Chaim Brisker they might still not because you need to do a Ma’aseh Chazakah but R’ Chaim Kanievsky in Derech Emunah explains that it would still be D’Oraisa anyway.)
WIY: It’s not clear that you can’t learn during Chazaras HaShatz. I think I’ve quoted Rav Weinberger on this here before.
Talmud: The Rambam in the Iggeres on astrology says that we can Pasken Hashkafa and that we (meaning he) holds that any Shittah in the Tannaim and Amoraim that involves supernatural things (and astrology) is a Shittah that we don’t hold by.
HaLeiVi: The Rambam in the Moreh defines Malachim as something as something entirely different than we think of them. He interprets almost every miraculous event in both Chumash and Nach as a dream or a Nevuah (with a few exceptions). He did not believe that Tzaddikim can perform the supernatural.
PBA: If it can be proven (and I’m not saying it has, but if it can) that requiring by mouth is a Sakanas Nefashos for these babies, then wouldn’t you agree that we don’t have to accord any respect to those who do it? That we should stop them from putting their children in danger?
Mefarnisin Aniyei Akum Im Aniyei Yisrael Mipnei Darkei Shalom. Also see the Taz in Yoreh Deah 151:1, if I recall correctly.
I am going to tell a story here. I personally am not so happy with how the government decided to do Yom Hashoah. They should not have made it during Nissan. They could have chosen any day. They could have done it in a religious fashion. They didn’t.
I was once listening to a Chareidi relative of mine in Israel give a Shiur after Shalosh Suedos. Someone asked him what Da’as Torah about Yom Hashoah is (exact wording of the question). He said that it’s always a good idea to remember what happened and to mourn, but that 28 Nissan is not the right day for that. And therefore, to show that the government was going against the religious with this decision, we should ignore it. An old, frail man in the back of the Beis Midrash stood up and said, quite clearly, “How dare you?! How dare you reduce our nation, our loss, our memory to nothing more than a weighing of when is appropriate to remember it. It doesn’t matter how wrong the government was. We were given a day to be remembered. But you, who are supposed to be my brothers, are trying to cause us to be forgotten.” (Sadly, it’s been a few years since then and I can’t say for sure that the quote is completely verbatim. But the last line I will never forget.)
I don’t care whether I agree or disagree on technical grounds. That’s no longer the point. They were given a day. Maybe it should have been another day. I think it probably should have been another day. But they were given a day, and arguing with that is one of the grossest insults that anyone can hurl at them.
I will have to look again to see precisely what he says about Sefer Yetzirah, but I’m pretty sure he says it has to be Derech Mashal. He might even hold that thinking that people can create things Yesh Mei’ayin is Apikorsus.
Talmud, DY, etc: Just be careful in how strongly you put down the rationalists here. They have the Rambam in their corner. I agree that the Rambam’s super-rationalist view is a minority (and certainly nowadays), but it is not something that you can brush off as closed-minded or blatantly wrong.
Charlie: That is a Rama in the Siman of Amirah L’akum, I think, and no one (and I mean no one) even thinks to hold of it. (Though the Mishnah B’rurah does have a Chumra in the Be’ur Halachah in Siman 65 that seems to be based on the same basic idea as this Shittah of the Rama.)
The Golem: Plenty? I know of 2, neither of which were documented well at all.
Old Man: No offense intended, because I have great respect for you, but I am going to call you out on something here. It is a flaw in the current rationalist thought that it is taken too far. Judaism (for the most part) believes in the supernatural. Thus, unless you want to claim to be an entirely Maimonidean rationalist (which I don’t think anyone is nowadays, but I guess you have what to rely on if that’s what you claim), you have taken rationalism too far. The Gemara is full of stories of the supernatural. Unless you want to say (like the Rambam) that every single one was a Mashal or something like that, there is no reason to deny the existence of a Golem. See also SHU”T Chacham Tzvi Siman 63 (maybe 93?), if I recall correctly.
.999 is .001 less than one. .999… until infinity is equal to 1.
OOM: Yep. They updated the standard version a year or two ago. I don’t like it nearly as much as the original original version.
Are you familiar with the card game Munchkin, by any chance? I have a feeling you would quite enjoy it.
The Baal Shem Tov (I didn’t see this inside; I was flipping through a Kabbalistic pamphlet at a Sefardi Vasikin Minyan I once Davened at) is quoted as explaining Al Tiftach Peh as follows: The Satan is constantly being Me’id to HKBH all sorts of evil things that someone “deserves”. Thus, when you say “you should…” you are becoming a second Eid together with the Satan and that is then seen as actual “Eidus” in Hashem’s eyes.
OOM: Fluxx is also a family favorite. Way ahead of you there.
Yeshivaguy: Rav Moshe, I believe, (in the 8th Chelek, for whatever that’s worth to you) says that it’s okay if they’re not interlocking. I feel like the Shmiras Shabbos is Mattir also. And you make an interesting point. Then again, I never used to write down the score when I would play. We’d either just remember or put a placemark in a dictionary on the page number.
Sam4: That’s the original one, that used blue hexes as the border. The new version has 6 puzzle pieces that make up the border, each of them with a number on each end. You line up the numbers to create the border.
DY: Are you sure? I thought it was putting the planks next to each other so their numbers lined up.
Sam4: The current edition because the border is made of 6 interlocking pieces that are numbered and you put them together by matching the numbers together. That seems to me to be exactly what K’siva was in the Mishkan, though I can definitely hear the claim that it’s not a problem because it’s not made to last at all.
OOM: How did I miss this the first time? Where do you know Quelf from?? That game is amazing. I thought my friend was the only person on Earth who actually owns it. We only played a few times, but it was awesome.
DY: Most Poskim are Mattir Scrabble and Bananagrams. The real Shaila is the Scrabble board with the individual holders for letters on the board (one of the old Deluxe Editions). Rav Moshe said that that one is Assur.
I personally hold that the new edition of Settlers with the puzzle border is an Issur D’Oraisa of K’siva.
T613: I’m pretty sure P’shat in the Gemara in Brachos (4a or 5a) is that there is no one nowadays even close to a level in which they would receive Yissurin Shel Ahavah. Everything is positive in the end, but things that come to remove an Aveirah are still classified as “bad” in our short-sighted this-worldly perceptions.
DY: The Gemara says that it does turn a Zechus into a Chov (Toheh Al Harishonim).
A Gezeirah that is signed and sealed can’t ever be reversed, but it can be slightly changed so that it becomes better/worse depending on what is deserved. It’s an explicit Gemara in Rosh Hashana (maybe the bottom of 17b?).
What’s the source of inclusion for Tal? The basis for not saying it is that it’s irrelevant (see the Gemara in Taanis).
Gamanit: That might work for Pascal’s religion, where belief is the only requirement and it’s just a 50-50 choice. How do you get Pascal’s Wager to work when it involves convincing them to keep Shabbos, Kosher, Arayos, etc.?
Nechomah: The Targum (and/or Rashi) is Torah Sheba’al Peh.
Lander: To quote Rav Schachter, every Mitzvah in the Torah has some “moral, ethical, or spiritual principle” that can be found in it (basically what the Rambam says in the Moreh). Even Mitzvos that on the surface seem to not be related to it have an underlying purpose if we look at them the right way. I think that would answer your question.
Yeshivaguy: I have heard that the Chofetz Chaim was not always Noheg the way he brings down in the Mishnah Brurah. That’s because everything in the M”B is a quote from an earlier source, and while he himself might have had his own Shittah, when Paskening for others he was Mevatel his Daas to theirs.
DY: No offense to the Rav who Paskened it (and there are definitely opinions in the Achronim that say like him), but going up against Rav Moshe on a P’sak of his that has been near-universally accepted is usually foolish. (I can’t say anything more, obviously, because I don’t know who this Rav is; if it was someone anywhere near R’ Moshe’s caliber then I guess I’ll retract my previous statement.)
Many Achronim quote the Magen Avraham to wear it out (he uses a powerful language, “Why should we be embarrassed of Mitzvas Hashem”). Sefardim and some Ashkenazim Davka keep them tucked in for Kabbalistic reasons. Yekkes tuck them in for other reasons.
There are billions of paths to Emunah in this world, one for each person. Find what speaks to you. There’s something in this universe that HKBH tailored just for you. Recognizing that fact will allow you to recognize Him.
Nechomah: No, it’s on just learning straight Tanach. Most Poskim say that there is no concern (even to those who are concerned) if you are using Peirushim, because then it’s Torah Sheba’al Peh and not just Torah Shbiksav. The Tzitz Eliezer in his T’shuvah quotes opinions who are Meikel on Shabbos (and on Thursday night) due to Kabbalistic reasons.