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I see the mashichist position as kfira or bordering kfira.
We have to believe in the 13 ikarim, one of which is bee’as haMoschiach. Now if somebody would say that Bee’as haMoschiach means eating a pickle, and therefore if you simply believe in eating pickles you have fulfilled this ikar, than he would be promoting kfira, because through this, people would no longer believe in the true meaning of bee’as haMoschiach.
Now to say that believing in bee’as haMoschiach means to believe that a person who died in 1994 is really alive, and that fictitious being is Moschiach , means that they don’t believe in the ikar by it’s true meaning, but only by it’s nonsensical meaning. So that makes them kofrim in bee’as haMoschiach.
The famous gemara about Hillell explaining why people from different places have different features.
A Jew may not worship idols. But he may be machnif lohem. So he may give them gifts on their holiday, even a holiday like Xmass. That doesn’t constitute idol worship. That is the halacha.
ולכן אם נכנס לעיר ומצאם שמחים ביום חגם ישמח עמהם משום איבה דהוי כמחניף להם ומ”מ בעל נפש ירחיק מלשמוח עמהם אם יוכל לעשות שלא יהיה לו איבה
A Jew may not worship idols. But he may be machnif lohem. So he may give them gifts on their holiday, even a holiday like Xmass. That doesn’t constitute idol worship. That’s the halacha.
ולכן אם נכנס לעיר ומצאם שמחים ביום חגם ישמח עמהם משום איבה דהוי כמחניף להם ומ”מ בעל נפש ירחיק מלשמוח עמהם אם יוכל לעשות שלא יהיה לו איבה
‘Do you think Rav Elyashiv, Rav Chaim, Rav Shach, the Steipler, the Chazon Ish, Rav Moshe, the Satmar Rebbe, the Gerrer Rebbe, Rav Aharon, the Chofetz Chaim, and most others in their category were friends with their Rebbetzins?’
By my definition, yes.
Avram in MD
Thank you. It’s nice to be heard.
Avram in MD
Marriage is a union with a purpose. The essential purpose is to give the person his completeness. This, however, is achieved as they unite to fulfill life’s specific goals and purposes. They are presented with all of life’s activities and challenges, and as they work together as a union in all that life brings, they relate with each other and grow to become a unit of completeness in the sense of being a complete human being, with all of the potential human positive qualities being realized. As they function this way together, they need to be true friends. They need to make sure their other half is content and well in every sense possible. If they don’t so then they are shooting their own selves in the foot, so to speak. As they function as a union, united in purpose, and complete loyalty and with this true friendship, they will tremendously enjoy working together. Working together with that type of unity and friendship is pleasurable beyond anything else. But they are not together in recreation, (except to the extent that that’s what they believe is needed to help achieve the goals) but together in purpose. That is true togetherness. Whereas togetherness in recreation is not really togetherness, because basically everyone is only thinking about his or her own good time. So while they don’t share recreational interests, since they share goals, that’s where the friendship kicks in, and they will enjoy each others company far more that simply by sharing the same taste in fun activities.
As a side point, my understanding is that Joseph is asking because he wants to know what to look for in a shidduch. I think it’s unfair to him, and potentially damaging, to give the impression that it’s about finding a buddy for recreation, or even partly about that. That’s not a good message for a person looking for a shidduch and also not for married person. In a shidduch they should be looking for a fine person with whom they would have a common goal and with whom they could have a caring and growing relationship.
In most cases, men and women don’t have the same interests and pleasures. It’s unfair and unrealistic to crate an expectation which isn’t often the case. And the pursuit of it is also unhealthy. If it’s there, then it’s maybe a bonus. They might however enjoy each others company even without sharing interests. I can explain this but it’s rather lengthy and technical, Suffice it to say that in looking for a shidduch, one should not be looking for sharing recreational interests, as long as their background and personalities are basically compatible and they share values, not pleasures. They should be looking for a fine person with whom they would have a common goal and with whom they could have a caring and growing relationship.
Joseph. If this is merely a question of semantics, I don’t know how important that is, as long as we know the essence of the relationship even if we don’t know exactly what word to use. I will say however, that since we say the bracha Asher boro sason vesimcha …. VERAYUS (which means friendship), and presumably it’s talking about what elements should be present in the marriage, it is therefore important to define what is the essance of that rayus. The person from shul or school may be fun company, but that doesn’t mean they won’t betray you at the smallest whim of theirs, and it certainly doesn;t mean that they care and will go out of their way for you. I can’t imagine that just the fun is enough to be worthy of the title rayus – friendship. My definition of friend isn’t applicable only to a spouse. It’s applicable to any person’s who genuinely cares. That is true friendship. Even if they don’t enjoy the same recreational activities. We find that a person who learns Torah lishma becomes a person who cares genuinely about others, as we say in Pirkay Avos (6,1) that such a person who learns Torah lishma is in fact called a raya (friend). Do you think it means that this person will join you to golf? It’s important to be able to assess who your real friends are.
Yes, your spouse should be your best friend, by a particular definition of friend. If friend means someone with whom you share hobbies and recreational interests, then the answer is no, your spouse doesn’t have to be your best friend. If a friend means someone who has committed to you to care about you, your happiness, success and well being, then the answer yes your spouse should be your best friend. And you should also be your spouse’s best friend. Marriage is a commitment to being devoted to each other. And that, in a nutshell, is what makes a marriage good. The more you adhere to that principal, the better the marriage will be.
It isn’t cruel to use fur. Tzadikim who were full of kindness and compassion have used furs throughout the generations.
I just noticed this thread so I didn’t see everything that was already said, so pardon me if i’m being redundant.
Not every child can necessarily be the gadol hador, nor is that a goal at all. Gadol hador is a competitive title, meaning greater than other people. That has nothing to do with doing the ratzon Hashem and being an ehrlicher Yid. If you’re in it for the gaava of having a son that’s better than other people’s children, than you are approaching chinuch with a anti Torah hashkafa, and it will not bring good results. Remember the story of Acher? We are supposed to learn something from that story. The lesson is chinuch with motives which aren’t pure will bring bad results.
If you mean to ask a correct and appropriate question, then you should be asking ‘How can I raise my children to fulfill their potential to the most possible?’
The answer is give them lots and lots of love and positive reinforcement. Make sure they are always feeling good about themselves.
Excessive demands could ruin this so be careful. Very careful, more careful than you realize, because it is apparent from your question that you are heading for a disaster in this very area for this reason of making them feel inadequate. If chas vesholom they will feel inadequate and bad about themselves, they will fail for sure.
You and I are not Rabainu Gershom. You need to know your place. Furs have been used throughout all of the generations and no rabbis forbade it. That means they didn’t feel it’s wrong. So nothing changed and it isn’t wrong, period.
I have nothing against slavery, per se. Just we may not kidnap and capture people against their will, needless to say. But if a person want to sell himself as a slave, that would be fine if it would be legal in our country, necause we must abide by the laws of the country we live in. There are rules in The Torah about how to treat a slave.
Aishes Yefas Toar, is not a relevant discussion because we don’t have the situation today, which gives the possibility of it. Also Aishes Yefas Toar was always known to be a bad thing and only mutar as the biggest bidieved.
Don’t be so certain. That’s the main problem today. They make issurim of things that aren’t assur but they therefore are matir things that are truly assur. Stealing, cheating, for these we find loophles, because everything is one big chulent with no differentiation between mutar and assur. So for everything we can get a heter because it’s a mishmash with things that are mutar to begin with.
No, that’s not the way. We must draw a clear line between mutar and assur. If someone want’s to be machmir, then he should clearly know that’s it is just a chumra, and he can’t impose it on others or even expect others to have that chumra.
The famous Yaakov Yosef Herman of All for The Boss was a furrier.
I have a little problem with this discussion.
Do we really believe that we are supposed to rule on this as if it s a new shayla. You know, the world has been around for thousands of years, and The Torah has also been with our people for thousands of years. There have been mane great Torah scholars over the years. The fur industry has also been around for thousands of years. So why are we pretending that we need to make up rulings on this ancient subject which already has all the ruling necessary. Gedolim throughout the generations have worn furs and allowed others to wear them. Have you seen the famous painting of The Chasam Sofer? He’s wearing a fur hat. And so too many many others. So who is the person here who thinks he is going to be a bigger gadol baTorah than any gadol Klal Yisroel ever had? Who thinks he should question their rulings.
So this conversation is silly, conceited and ridiculous.
(Ecclesiastes) ראה חיים עם האשה אשר אהבת
Hashem made us want a woman so that we would willingly afterwards put in the necessary work to make a life with her.
If she not especially a mirshaas, which although exists, is an unusual exception to the rule, then she has maalos and chesronos. That’s fine. Make a life with her and make sure to grow in marriage. Through having a partner, you will more easily be able to recognize what you need to better yourself in. So will she. If you will grow then she will also. If you will be obstinate and unwilling to change, she will be a klavta. But she’s not really a klavta, but that is her ‘kenegdo’ role.
Torah is my drug of choice. I’m thoroughly addicted.October 25, 2017 7:47 am at 7:47 am in reply to: Are all these protests in Jerusalem really a kiddush hashem? #1389472
“Read the shema, if you violate the commandments i will toss you out! That applies to the fry not the frum.”
Are you sure about that? I don’t know if the fry are given the ‘asher bha’avoso vehochachtiv beshevet anashim uvenigai benay adam’ treatment, which is for children who still behave like children but err. Fry have distanced themselves to the point that they are like the goyim who do the expelling, not the Yidden who are expelled. FYI we are still in Galus, and maybe the suffering under the Zionist state is the final stage of our galus. If it would be Arabs who created a state there and make gezairos giyus, you wouldn’t think of demonstrating this way. As I said a bunch of posts ago, you think we can be heimish with Zionist baryonim because they’re our brothers. It seems I’m less of a Zionist than you.October 25, 2017 1:32 am at 1:32 am in reply to: Are all these protests in Jerusalem really a kiddush hashem? #1389433
“The thief is the zionist state. They stole from Judaism, stole the language, stole the symbols, they even stole tanach as their literature even though they don’t listen to its call for teshuva. They wanted a country and every country needs language and symbols so they stole from the Orthodox. And now they won’t let the Orthodox be Orthodox.”
Many people who lack intellectual honesty and the ability to really hear another opinion, would comfortably sit and dismiss your words as fanatic paranoia, or even worse, deliberate lies, but not I. I hear your heartfelt pain and I am ashamed of myself that I have become desensitized to the adulteration of Tanach and Lashon Kodesh etc.
I could easily just continue arguing my point, and maybe even win (or maybe not), without even stopping to admit that while my logic may be logical, it has not taken into account what you are saying here, and what the Jewish heart should be pained about. Truthfully, I must therefore, in light of what you are saying here which I didn’t really think of properly until now, restart to think over the issue from scratch with bearing in mind what you are saying here, and see what conclusion I’ll come to then, and I can’t just assume that I’ll certainly be able to maintain my logical logic as I had from the beginning.
That much intellectual honesty, I do have.October 24, 2017 5:54 pm at 5:54 pm in reply to: Are all these protests in Jerusalem really a kiddush hashem? #1389275
An ancient Indian saying. Never attack someone, because for all you know he might have sent you a compliment which you have not yet received.
Your idea to form a communal jail chabura, to accommodate both the police AND the deserters, is nothing short of brilliant (Another compliment – beware)
One of the things The Chasam Sofer was fighting against in his war against Reform, was changing the language of davening. He fought against changes even that were not against halacha. And he fought it fiercely.October 24, 2017 4:57 pm at 4:57 pm in reply to: Are all these protests in Jerusalem really a kiddush hashem? #1389240
Some people you give a compliment and they return an insult.
You have taken my words out of their intended context. I’m not saying you have lo leave per se. I’m saying that if the choices are to either act out or live a Torah-less lifestyle, one should instead leave. I am, however, not the who contended that there is no choice of living a Torah life there and not acting out. I quote a wise man (mysef) “But don’t stay if a requirement of living there is committing gezel against regular everyday people.”
You, however, seem to be saying of your own accord that “the army right now is no place for a ben Torah,” and you are saying ” we can’t be part of it.”
So then if all residents of Israel are being forced to be part of it, part of a place which is NOT for a ben Torah, should he not rather leave, then be in a situation which would undermine and ruin his Torah values and taint him beyond repair?October 24, 2017 4:57 pm at 4:57 pm in reply to: Are all these protests in Jerusalem really a kiddush hashem? #1389241
Thank you. I couldn’t have said it better myself.
(Now don’t start attacking me as a repayment for my compliment, as seems to be the custom here.)October 24, 2017 3:45 pm at 3:45 pm in reply to: Are all these protests in Jerusalem really a kiddush hashem? #1389187
I wish I would have said that!October 24, 2017 12:12 pm at 12:12 pm in reply to: Are all these protests in Jerusalem really a kiddush hashem? #1389084
Burning cars of innocent random people? How does stealing from those innocent people address the aggressors of the anti Torah regime? That is simple misplaced aggression and simple gezel.
I am not saying the land is rightfully belonging to the baryonim. I’m saying that we need to face the matzius and govern our plans and actions accordingly. It seems that you basically agree with me, since you say that you were foolish to make aliya. I just go a step further. I say that since you can’t live there, leave. But don’t stay if a requirement of living there is committing gezel against regular everyday people.October 24, 2017 11:31 am at 11:31 am in reply to: Are all these protests in Jerusalem really a kiddush hashem? #1389060
“About blocking streets and Gezel Zman etc. Did you have the same concerns when the Belzer Chasuna or Gerrer Chasuna blocked the whole Yerushalayim ? What about Hachnosas sefer Torah which blocks streets?”
These people are not deliberately trying to disturb. They are just conducting their activities for the sake of those activities, and the public is accommodating them. In a society, we all need to accommodate each other to conduct the activities that are important to each person or group. So people work together to accommodate and they plan things accordingly, each person taking every other person into account.
In these protests though, the sole intention is exactly to disturb and disrupt. It’s not a side effect which is unintended but unavoidable. It’s the purpose. That’s the means they are using to make their point. There is no request for accommodation. There is a demand for putting up with menace.
See the difference?October 24, 2017 11:16 am at 11:16 am in reply to: Are all these protests in Jerusalem really a kiddush hashem? #1389008
Thank you for your clear articulate post.
I agree that we may not judge our brothers in Israel for all the reasons you mentioned plus more. But we may judge any activity without judging the people.
I want to make 2 points.
1. What would you say if the means used to demonstrate would be burning random cars. That’s certainly gezel, right? would anything you mentioned in your argument justify that? Presumably not. Well, this what they are doing is basically the same.
2. Just imagine if there would e a mandatory draft in the USA, in which any Yeshiva bachur could be drafted, and he would immediately lose his innocence forever and never be the same. Do you think we would take the liberty to demonstrate this way? But in Israel, we are making an assumption, that the Zionist government are our brothers so we can be heimish and take liberties to act out. The fact is that from the time the state was formed it required an army which could not realistically have been a group of b’nei Torah. So, yes, they took over the land without asking the charedi population who had already been living there. But that’s a bygone and we can’t turn back the clock. Now the question remains what do you do? If you live there, you are certainly in need of army protection, and you are benefiting endlessly from the army. So you are deliberately taking benefit from people who are living in a way against The Torah. You are actually benefiting from the very actions that are against The Torah, meaning the anti Torah lifestyle that is the army. That is equivalent to supporting and condoning their actions. If you truly believe that a Jew may not live that way, then how could you be relying and receiving this benefit from them, as they are basically our shluchim in this because we need them to be doing it. It’s like the rosh yeshiva who didn’t allow yeshiva bachurim to drive but always took hitches from boys who violated the rule. That’s hypocrisy. Yes, our land was taken over by people who are living a Torah-less life, and who rely on that lifestyle for the very existence and survival of the people. So that leaves us no honest choice but to either stop benefiting from them or to leave the country. Stopping benefiting means not simply not taking money, because there’s is still the huge benefit of the military protection. So not benefiting means not taking ANY freebies, in other words doing our share in the army. OR MOVE AWAY!
But to live there and be a menace and a gazlan to the society at large?October 24, 2017 7:37 am at 7:37 am in reply to: Are all these protests in Jerusalem really a kiddush hashem? #1388858
The protesters are also accomplishing another thing. Until now, demonstration, when conducted in a reasonable and peaceful fashion, did serve a useful purpose in getting frum voices heard in Israel. But now that they are demonstrating in this vicious way and angering everybody with it, they are putting demonstrations in such a bad light that they have totally destroyed the prospect of ever again utilizing the means of any sort of demonstration, even peaceful.October 23, 2017 4:30 pm at 4:30 pm in reply to: Are all these protests in Jerusalem really a kiddush hashem? #1388652
So the parents were wrong. So the child is chayav misa?October 23, 2017 11:10 am at 11:10 am in reply to: Are all these protests in Jerusalem really a kiddush hashem? #1388353
I’m not asking. I’m clearly saying that we don’t follow anyone, even a gadol, to chas vesholom violate The Torah. I’m also saying that we need to have the ability to think with our own brain and heart.October 23, 2017 10:34 am at 10:34 am in reply to: Are all these protests in Jerusalem really a kiddush hashem? #1388301
Why are people following this individual? What happened to their sechel? But it’s this Daas Torah agenda which is keneged Hatorah, which says submit your brains to other mortals and don’t think. We all know the expression ‘I was just following orders.’October 22, 2017 10:58 pm at 10:58 pm in reply to: Are all these protests in Jerusalem really a kiddush hashem? #1388121
The problem is that we the people have been conditioned to keep our mouths shut. We have had our brains and hearts removed through a particular agenda knows as the Daas Torah agenda. There are a few people to whom we have all handed over our humanity. Just watch how anyone who doesn’t step into line is called an apikores. The Baal Hatania says that gedolay Hatora shouldn’t profess to know other subjects such as politics or business, subjects which they haven’t studied and in which they have no expertise. The reason that we respect them is because they devoted their lives to study Torah, and therefore we shouldn’t expect them to be jacks of all trades to give advice on other issues. Usually the business advice of a secular businessman will be better advice than that of a great rabbi.October 22, 2017 10:28 am at 10:28 am in reply to: Are all these protests in Jerusalem really a kiddush hashem? #1387847
“Who do you hold like when there’s a machlokes gedolim ? Whoever you want?!?!?!?”
The Satmarer Rebbe ZT”L said on many occasions that we have no leaders in our times whom we can follow afilu al yemin shehu smoll.
That doesn’t mean chas vesholom that we judge our Rebbees, because it really isn’t up to understand what misconception brought the Rebbee to make the error. But we may not do something which we know is ossur and for which we have no way of reconciling a psak contrary to that.October 18, 2017 1:00 pm at 1:00 pm in reply to: No mention of the huge techailes event in Boro Park on Chol Hamoed?! #1385135
it isn’t circular reasoning. Let me explain the intention of the statement that it’s a bitul mitzva. Many people feel that they don’t need to take this discussion seriously and they don’t need to verify the truth, because even if it would turn out that it’s techailes, they could elect not to wear it, if they so prefer. This is a major cause, in my opinion, for people to so quickly and easily dismiss it and make arguments which aren’t well thought through. This is wring, because if true techailes is available, it’s a chiyuv gamur. That’s the intention of the point that’s being made.
I haven’t read the posters to which you refer, but the statement should not be that he has no mitzvas tzitzis at ll, but that it is an issur of being mevatel a mitzva, namely the mitzva of techailes, which is a chiyuv gamur.
As far as the discussion about it not coming from from a good place, I understand that it seems as you say. But let me ask you. If you would know something as clear as the day, and you would see information being distorted, would you have any other choice but to say truth as it is? I know it seems unlikely that all of the arguments against techailes are false and based on sheer ignorance. It seems unlikely to someone who is looking in from the outside. But knowing the subject well changes that. Do you know that many people in the world have compassion for the cause of terrorists, and even say that they could be understood and validated to commit terrorism, in light of the validity of their cause. Do you think that I am required to attribute validity to their position just because it is widely held? What about the modern world’s position on mishkav zachar? There are even some Jews who argue that one could be an observant Jew and still legitimately engage in those toaivos. But I know that The Torah forbids it. I know it because I know this halacha. So you see, sometimes you may come across as not having humility and intellectual honesty, but still you know that you are right. What should I do since I see the arguments presented against techailes, even by talmiday chachamim, and I can easily disprove them to the point that the person making the argument is left without an answer to utter. Did Avraham Avinu lack humility to go against the entire world of idol worshipers? Chas veshalom. One has no choice but to say the truth as he sees it. And it isn’t coming from a bad place.
Therefore I think the only way to discuss this is by discussing the actual topic.
I will tell you that I advocate for the techeiles out of genuine desire to perform ratzon Hashem. It is actually very uncomfortable to me at times to be taking this position. I don’t like being different and standing out. I don’t like being pompous, and I don’t like saying that all who argue against me are wrong. I know how that sounds and I don’t like to sound that way. Taking this position is actually mesiras nefesh in a sense. You seem like a sincere person, and I understand you for taking the position you have taken. But I must, for the sake of the Torah and for sake of the truth, say it as it is.
Since you say that you are arguing for the purpose in order to learn, I respect that.October 18, 2017 12:41 pm at 12:41 pm in reply to: No mention of the huge techailes event in Boro Park on Chol Hamoed?! #1385155
I have not made any derogatory statements chas vesholom against Torah giants. If you wish to leave out some of my post that’s your right but why must you be motzi shem ra about me. Just leave out what you want to leave out. My regard for Rav Chaim Kanievsky is the highest of the high.October 18, 2017 11:49 am at 11:49 am in reply to: No mention of the huge techailes event in Boro Park on Chol Hamoed?! #1385088
“There are certainly talmidei chachomim who have done plenty of research who have come to the conclusion that it’s not techeiles.”
Wrong. There are talmiday chachamim who have made conclusive statements, but their statements are based on false arguments and ignorance in this subject. This is apparent to me from my research. I have heard the arguments, and they are spoken too quickly and without accuracy.
Edited. Deleted. Wiped clean. Your derogatory statements, beliefs and attributions of naivete toward the greatest Torah giants is completely unacceptable and not publishable. We have done our research well and have years of experience in recognizing pompous, over-confidence.October 18, 2017 10:40 am at 10:40 am in reply to: No mention of the huge techailes event in Boro Park on Chol Hamoed?! #1385075
I am pleased that you have a rav and that you follow him. That’s wonderful and please keep it up. But do not make arguments about this subject, because you don’t know it. There are actually no legitimate halachic reasons not to wear this techailes. Unfortunately, most people who comment on this, including rabbonim, have not studied it and simply make an assumption , maybe based on the status quo or whatever, that we may ignore this halachic issue. So they don’t bother to research it, and simply make bold statements against the techiles which are false and can easily be disproved in an honest dialogue, as I have seen countless times in this subject.
And please don’t argue about whether or not there was a huge event in Boro Park, because there was, and you argue without knowing, as you do about the very subject itself.
I would suggest you stay out of the argument because you don’t now the subject. If your reason not to wear techailes is truly because you are following your rav, than why do you need to argue? just follow him.October 18, 2017 10:13 am at 10:13 am in reply to: No mention of the huge techailes event in Boro Park on Chol Hamoed?! #1385052
“What is the full research youve done? attended a few shiurim and read some flyers on Techeilet.com
Because that “resarch” IVe done several times.”
I have done very thorough research and you have not, as is apparent from the constant inaccuracies in your statements. Such as the following statement which you state with a tone if certainty which is totally wrong:
“This is not a matter of being machmir, only of being mevatel a mitzvah”you must be one of these people: “I believe most people on this tread are not oseik in halacha, ”
Since otherwise you would know that techeiles isnt meakev (Yes I know some hold even today if techeiles is available then it is meakev but to use that as an argument to require questionable techeiles is circular reasoning)”
The fact that techailes isn’t meakev lavan simply means that lavan is a mirtzva independant of techailes so that if a person only has lavan and gtechailes isn’t available, the lavan is still amitzva even in faxce of the lack f techailes. But that doesn’t mean that techailes isn’t a chiyuv gamur, because it most certainly is. It’s like the other halacha mentioned in that mishna תפילה של יד אינה מעכבת את של ראש, which doesn’t mean that the shel rosh isn’t a chiyuv gamur, because it most certsinly is, and a person who has the availablity to wear shel rosh and doesn’t is doing an avaira of being mevatel a mitzva, and the same is true for techailes.
Had you attended the asifa, you would have heard this being explained clearly and thoroughly. So if you profess to have attended some shiurim, while that may be so, your research is totally insufficient. I, on the other hand, have done proper extensive research, and I have come to know that the arguments presented against the techailes are just like the argument I refer to here which you made, totally wrong and based on ignorance and not on knowledge.
By the way, as you admit to not having done much research besides reading some flyers etc, why are you so bold to argue so strongly against the techailes. Do you often engage in the practice of making arguments in subjects in which you aren’t well learned, against people who may very well know far far much more that you, and may actually be experts?October 18, 2017 7:15 am at 7:15 am in reply to: No mention of the huge techailes event in Boro Park on Chol Hamoed?! #1384898
You are standing outside the subject, like the way a layman looks at a deep subject which he doesn’t grasp, and looking at the surface to the extent of who says what, and not much more than that. I don’t blame you for following R’ Kanievsky, et al. Since you yourself don’t have a way of figuring it out on your own, you have no choice but to decide who to listen to, and R’ Kanievsky is certainly a very good and logical choice of whom to follow.
But for those of us who have done full research, and have come to know with certainty that this is the techailes of The Torah and that we are obligated to wear it, the discusssion of who says what is basically irrelevant. If we need to explain why R’ Kanievsky hasn’t come to know this, we can supply many possible explanations, but it isn’t really very important to know which explanation is true. Maybe R’ Kanievsky who doesn’t do much socializing, and doesn’t read newspapers or magazines, was briefed on this subject by people who made him feel that it’s just a few fools saying this without backing, and he doesn’t need to further research the subject. Or maybe there is a different explanation. It is clear, however, to those who have properly researched the subject, that whoever doesn’t accept this techailes , is simply mistaken and is not aware of the seriousness.October 18, 2017 1:15 am at 1:15 am in reply to: No mention of the huge techailes event in Boro Park on Chol Hamoed?! #1384902
Yes there was a demo on dyeing. But that wasn’t the main part of the event. There was no mention of Zionists and no screaming about anything at all. There were well presented shiurim which were amazingly convincing. You will hear this from anyone who was present.October 17, 2017 10:35 pm at 10:35 pm in reply to: No mention of the huge techailes event in Boro Park on Chol Hamoed?! #1384832
1) There is a teshuva from RMF that all havaros are kosher.
2) This isn’t a chumra but a halacha gemura and a chiyuv mamash. Yes, I don’t blatantly ignore any mitzva. There could be nothing worse than picking and choosing mitzvos and not accepting ol malchus shomayim to do whatever Hashem has commanded us, even if it means a bit of discomfort among your social circle.
I think you and others don’t realize the seriousness of this.October 17, 2017 11:20 am at 11:20 am in reply to: No mention of the huge techailes event in Boro Park on Chol Hamoed?! #1382877
Just to address your mest recent comment. The halacha is noit like the ‘vort’ you mentioned. ע’ מ”ב סי’ ל”ט ס”ק כ”ו וסי’ קצ”ד ס”ק י”ג וסי תומ”ח בביאה”ל בסכ”א ובהגהות רע”א שם במג”א ס”ק ד’ ובביכורי יעקת שם ס”ק נ”ג ובפרמ”ג שם במ”ז ס”ק ל”ו אות ו’ ובשו”ע הרב סי’ ל”ט סי”א ובשו”ת רע”א סי’ ס”ד ובריטב”א ובראב”ד מובא בשטמ”ק ב”מ ו ע”ב
You see from here that the Taanos raised by the opposition art spoken without knowledge.
Second of all it is ridiculous to say that we shouldn’t do a mitzva to be yotzeh according to anyone just because there is a machlokes how many strings. Also most hold that by following Tosfos you are yotze according to everyone. Tis has been researched and written about extensively. But again the opponents speak off the cuff without knowledge.
It seems like a hefkairus to be so quick to give quick not well thought out responses to have an excuse not to do a mitzva that is as much a chiyuv as any other mitzva. Just imagine if this would be done with any other mitzva. It is a shame and a disgrace. The Torah isn’t a game. We are obligated too take it seriously and fulfill the commandments and not use false ways out. The opponents of the techailes don’t realize this. They don’t realize the level of kalus rosh that is represented by their stance.October 16, 2017 11:00 pm at 11:00 pm in reply to: No mention of the huge techailes event in Boro Park on Chol Hamoed?! #1382633
The event was on Teusday Chol Hamoed in Rabbi Steinworzel’s shul in Boro Park. It was jammed packed. The people who were there estimate that there were 1,000 people present at the same time listening to the shiurim. The shiurim were presented very clearly and powerfully. People walked away with a very strong feeling that this is correct and that it is an absolute chiyuv, and that it is an avaira to wear a talis without this techailes. If you inquire from people who were there, you will undoubtedly get this report.
The people here who are commenting certain comments against, are clearly lacking the information that was presented there, as with that information such arguments are null.