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How do you pay off/get rid of someone else’s sin(s)?
By God accepting whatever it is that He accepts for it.
I don’t see why you’re having so much trouble with this. Teshuva, by it’s very nature, is a personal thing. Having someone do teshuva for you makes about as much sense as having some sleep for you. It can only be done by the person himself. The whole point is to transform and change the person for the better.
Kapparah doesn’t change you. It just removes a part or all of someone’s sins — but it doesn’t change the person’s behavior or attitudes.
The Wolf
Alright, so how can a person make a kappara for another person’s sins?
The same way I can pay off someone’s debt, but I can’t make a resolution that they not go into debt again.
The Wolf
Getting back on topic, don’t we have the concept that great rabbonim suffered or were niftar as a kappara for klal yisroel?
A kapparah is not teshuva.
Think of it in terms of debt.
A kapparah is a note that wipes out a particular debt. Doing teshuva is resolving to not go into debt any further.
Teshuva is a *personal* process — the sinner confesses his sin, regrets his actions and resolves to no longer do so. Even if you could do the first for another person, there is no way you can do the latter two. They can only be done by the person themselves for themselves. No one else can make a resolution for you. No one else can regret something for you. Only you can do that.
The Wolf
I’ve heard stories where the parents staked out a location the girl is known to be so they can surreptitiously spy her.
This happened to a neighbor of mine. Very creepy.
The Wolf
Sorry, no advice from me here, because I didn’t “shidduch date.”
The first time I met my father-in-law was when he was sitting shiva for his father. Eeees and I had been dating for about a month in a half when her grandfather passed away. At that point, the only member of her family whom I had met was her younger sister (and that was only because she was there the day we met). So, I went to be menachem avel. It was a pleasant meeting (at least as pleasant as nichum aveilim gets). Apparently I impressed her parents that day.
The Wolf
If your child is vaccinated there should be no problem your child will not get the disease. It is no different than if you send your child to school with sun screen and his friend doesn’t have sun screen. Your child wouldn’t get sun burnt but the other one will.
There are two issues here:
1. Some people, for various reasons, cannot be vaccinated.
2. Vaccinations are not necessarily 100% effective. Sometimes you can get a vaccine and still come down with the disease if you come in contact with an infected person.
In both of these cases, “herd immunity” protects them from coming down with the disease in question. By having a general population that is vaccinated, the chances of them coming down with the disease is much lower.
The Wolf
I wear sunglasses on occasion when my eye infection acts up. Not that I need them, per se, but just so that other people don’t have to see my swollen up, infected eye.
I guess it’s just another indication of my moral degradation. 🙁
The Wolf
So, they also have this issue, despite not
having the cheirem d’Rabbeinu Gershom ?
The LDS outlawed and repudiated polygamy over a century ago. Polygamists today are shunned by the mainstream LDS church.
The Wolf
Does photography make you happy?
Yes, but apparently good photography days are bad because they’re not bright and sunny as Happy Go Lucky requires. Furthermore, my puny photos can’t do a sunny day justice, so why bother trying.
The Wolf
No hiring unmarried girls as Morahs.
You are aware, of course, that discrimination on the basis of marital status is illegal.
The Wolf
And no photograph would compare, do justice.
I guess you’re right. Since no photograph would ever do it justice, I suppose I should just give it up.
The Wolf
Please don’t shoot any innocent lions.
That’s okay. The cameras I shoot with are harmless to whomever they are pointed at.
The Wolf
HGL,
I’m glad you’re happy, but, personally, as a photographer, I’d prefer an overcast day on the days that I go shooting. 🙂
The Wolf
To e/o: It definitely sounded like criticism. Esp. when the word “heck” was used!
Fine. Whatever.
Consider my perfectly reasonable request withdrawn. It’s not worth it.
The Wolf
Can we stop quoting these Shittos please? They are wholly and entirely rejected by every major Posek in the last century, most notably (and strongly) R’ Moshe Feinstein.
Next you’ll be telling me I should never state that Bais Shammai have a particular opinion (except for the rare cases when we do hold like them).
The Wolf
Sometimes, nothing. And the fact that nothing does, when I have so much going for me in my life, and knowing how truly blessed I am with what I have in my life, only makes me sadder still.
The Wolf
See also ????? ?”? ??’ ? who apparently entertains a tzad that suicide is muttar
Rav Ya’akov Emden has a teshuva where he states that one is permitted to commit suicide as an atonement for a sin for which the punishment is the death penalty.
The Wolf
Instead of criticizing, why don’t you give an opinion? If you agree, then fine. If not, tell us why!
What the heck was wrong with my request? All I ask was that, in the future, when such threads are created, a link be provided so that I and others can know what it’s about.
That’s not a criticism, that’s a request. And I’m not required to have an opinion on the matter one way or the other to be entitled to understand what it’s about.
The Wolf
May I make a suggestion, please?
If you’re going to start a thread about a news item or mailbag item posted on YWN, please include a link.
Not all of us follow every YWN news item and, more importantly, someone finding this thread six months or a year from now will certainly have no idea what the heck the OP was talking about.
The Wolf
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/mailbag/332998/mailbag-a-ritual-of-madness.html
Based on your logic, I suppose Republicans wouldn’t oppose people who engage in shooting sprees at Democratic events?
The Wolf
Wolfish – There are two reasons why we kill a ????: a) ???? ????? – saving the victim, and b) ??????? ???????. Your tone of surprise is because you are working with the first reason, in which case killing him is obviously useless. However, according to the second reason, if he is about to commit suicide and there is no way of stopping him, you should kill him (provided suicide is ?? ????, as I said above).
Can you please cite where this is halacha? I would be very interested in reading such a ruling.
The Wolf
According to the shittos that somebody who commits suicide transgresses ?? ????, somebody who attempts to commit suicide may have a din of a Roidef, in which case he is ???? ?????? ?????!!
By that logic, if the only way to prevent a suicide is by killing him, you should do it???
The Wolf
Some context, please?
The Wolf
What happened to the OP?
The Wolf
What’s Lefrak City?
Seriously mod42? its on Queens blvd past Forest Hills in the direction of Manhattan
It might do to remember that not everyone is from New York.
It might also do to remember that not even all New Yorkers know where all the neighborhoods are. I heard of Lefrak City, and knew that it was somewhere in the city, but aside from knowing it’s not in Manhattan, I couldn’t have placed it on a map either.
The Wolf
1) A Jew should have a name found in Nach (which is kinda strange, cause as far as I know Chaim isn’t a name in Nach either)
There is the objection you yourself mentioned. There is also plenty of other names that are widely used with no objections that aren’t names in the Torah either. So why “pick on” Shira?
2) Shira is a davar she’ain bo mamash and/or a shtus, and Jewish names should have more significance.
Again, you could make the same argument for any number of other names. Chaim, Shalom, etc.
3) It comes from non-Jewish or secular Zionist influence/origins.
“Shira” means song. Songs are pretty much universal. Jews in the Torah sang songs.
The Wolf
He has a Facebook page. You could, presumably, contact him through there.
The Wolf
Tips to repel cats:
1. Remove food sources (check trashcans, etc.)
2. Moving water sprinklers
3. Cat repellent plants (sprinkle rue around your yard. Or spray citrus scents).
4. Buy a commercially sold cat repellent spray.
The Wolf
T613, how does an exception prove a rule? Wouldn’t a rule be stronger if there were no exceptions?
A common misunderstanding.
The way we use the word “prove” today would mean that when you finally find an exception, then you know the rule is true. Of course, that’s logically inconsistent because, if you find an exception, then the rule is not a rule. So how did this phrase originate?
The answer is that when the phrase was coined, “prove” had a different meaning. “Prove” meant “to test.” So to “prove a rule” actually meant to test it. You would use an exception to try to test whether or not the rule was true.
The Wolf
i want to know why we learn besides sechar and if its only to know right and wrong we might as well just learn shulchan aruch why gemora and the like.
That’s a different question than the one you were asking earlier.
You learn Gemara to learn the *reasoning* behind the decisions in the S”A and other Halachic codes. The reasoning is important because it may provide clues as to when the Halacha as brought down in the S”A or other Halachic codes may or may not apply in situations not envisioned by the writers of those codes.
It’s akin to knowing how SCOTUS rules on a case vs. actually reading the decision written by the justices.
The Wolf
1. If I do not care for sechar and am not scared of onesh why should I keep mitzvos?
Because doing right and wrong isn’t always about a reward. Things that are right are right because they are right and not because of the reward we may get. We should strive to do right for it’s own sake and not for the sake of the reward.
When you say “thank you” to someone for something they did for you, do you do it only because you see some reward in it for you at a later date? When you give up your seat on the subway/bus to another person who really needs it, would you really not do it and be completely selfish if there was nothing in it for you?
2. Why do we learn torah?
To learn what *is* right and what *is* wrong.
The Wolf
I like flowers, and I’m not a woman.
My wife also buys me flowers on occasion too (although she usually does this with the intent of me photographing them as I enjoy floral photography).
The Wolf
Thanks a lot
You’re welcome.
The Wolf
Since the mods don’t allow links…
Go to Youtube. Search for “Tanu Tanu Rabanan – Passover Song”
Enjoy!
The Wolf
Everyone has some reason why their late at least once in a while.
Oh, man. I don’t believe I did that….
I’m sorry, folks. That should be “they’re” not “their.”
The Wolf (who is usually pretty good when it comes to choosing the correct homophone…)
Why skip? Why not make the effort to show up on time?
Because no one is perfect. I’m almost always on time (even early) yet, as it happens, this morning, I overslept and got to the 7:30 minyan at 7:33. (Fortunately, they didn’t start until 7:40.)
Everyone has some reason why their late at least once in a while.
The Wolf
Thank you.
The Wolf
The Wolf = Anav.
Whatever.,. I don’t have the willpower to fight with you on this.
The Wolf
FWIW, my phone is usually still at home for Shacharis. For Mincha/Ma’ariv, however, I do have my phone with me. However, I always keep it on vibrate.
No, I don’t turn it off (and probably wouldn’t even if you asked me to – although I’d double check to make sure it was on vibrate/silent).
The Wolf
One of my daughter’s names is a highly unusual one. But there is absolutely no doubt that R. Kanievsky would consider it a Jewish name.
The Wolf