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I think this is one of those things that some dont get, Some people just like or dislike certain foods. I am sure there are plenty of good cooks there and make lots of Yummy food. people have differnet food tastes, I dont know why its so hard for people to get that.
Ive seen books and Shirum and the “Holiness” of certain foods and people who claim jews should not eat “Goyish” food like Sushi and Pizza. There is nothing holy about Pizza and Sushi and there is nothing Holy about Gefitle Fish or Challah, if you like to eat it , great and if you dont eat something else.
And If you think I dont like any Hemish food, I actually Like Kishka. Its all personal taste and I dont consider Kishka any more Holy than a Roast Beef (That is what we usually eat in my house since I like that)
Actually I dont Like Challah either, I find that repulsive too, usually We use Bagels instead. The dough of a Bagel is alot gooier and chewier. There is nothing more tastier than a proper bagel from a good Bagel store.
Not much of a bread eater except for the gooier chewier ones like Bagels or some fancier ones Ive seen (Dont like Sandwich type breads either like white or rye (Except in a Deli Sandwich).
Nobody said anything about making fun of anything except I refuse to eat foods I dislike (I do eat Challah , Gefiltle Fish and Chopped Liver if I am at someones house and its served to me, It rude not to eat food served to you)
I love roast Duck!!!
Who said anything that I said only animals are food, Apples of course are food too.
I have definatly heard Gefiltle Fish called “Holy” in fact there is a whole book on “Holy foods”. Some I like some I dont really care for. Dont really care for chicken myself and there are others.
Frankly I think some are just shocked that someone could dislike certain foods that they were used to
I didnt say I couldnt eat with without fainting or vomiting, I can eat it if drained in Horseradish, but you dont choose foods because you can woof it down without vomitting. I can eat Chopped Liver (Something I find even more repulsive than Gefile Fish) without Vomnitting , but it doesnt mean I like it or want to eat it.
I eat foods I like to eat, not foods someone tells me I should eat because I wont faint or Vomit
I said and I repeat, There was more enthusiam last year and this year is likely to be a dud and last year turned out to be a dud because of the way it was run and If I was in charge Id make changes to perhaps get better response, however my ideas would not get much traction because people are not willing to think outside of the box and admit that maybe a partial shabbos to start is better than full shabbos (at least the first time).
Invite people for one meal and one service (Friday night would probably work better) and see how it goes. Alot of people are not willing to give up a saturday for Shabbos
I dont care if you like or dislike what I like. You are not me, I happen to like Sushi and find gefile fish vile. You can like whatever you want. If you hate Sushi, good, there is more for me.
We are differnet people and like differnet things. You can find vile anything I like and I wouldnt care.
People are told that certain foods have some sort of “Kedush” well they dont, they are generally just foods you are used to or like. If you are used to and like Gefitile Fish, its a nice food to eat. if you cant stand it , then its vile and disgusting and nothing holy about it
Funny thing is , I think in one of the videos someone actually suggested just that to serve someone Gefilte Fish and they will be inspired.
If you dont like a particular food, serving it to them is not a positive experience.
If you are going to invite someone, Make sure you make them foods that they like, not foods you like or you think will inspire them
When you can catch a Gefilte fish, Ill call it an animal, Until then its disgusting
Japanese , Korean and Chinese characters are very different and its not hard to tell the differnce.
Chinese characters are very fancy caligraphy and require alot of skill to write them, Korean writing is very simple lines and circles and actually quite dull especially compared to chinese. Japanese is somewhere in the middle , it is not as fancy as chinese
Disgusting
I pariticipated last year and I had my guest bail on me last year and it seems it happend to alot of people as well and even many who attended the first meal left at some point during shabbos and by Havdalah there were very few guests left.
And even getting guests was hard as many people did not want to give up an entire saturday and sleep over someones house (not commonly done in the general world)
I saw what happend last year
And frankly after speaking to people last year, if they want to be more successful they need to persue this a different way. You are not going to be very successful you cant expect people to keep shabbos at first, you need to give them a taste and see how it goes and if they dont like it, accept that as an answer and move and and if they are interested give them more , but not too much at once
Want to know how many are going to become frum as a result of this program; who would not otherwise become frum? Not a one.
That is probably true or close to the truth.
“the gedolim have clearly stated that MO theology is idolatrous and heretical.
If this was true one could not eat the food from an Apikoras, and the O-U is considered Kosher to almost anyones standards
Getting volunteers to fundraise nowadays is almost impossible, you need to pay people otherwise it wont get done
Gyp comes from Gypsy because people thought the gypsies would trick them out of their money (Gyp them).
Chinese auction is not offensive to us because we didnt know where the term came from
Squaw Valley probably isnt offensive to most of us either, even though Squaw is an offensive term for female Native american
CT has a point and its not funny, however most of us (including me) do not get that Chinese auction might be offensive. wherever that term came from sort of lost its meaning.
I was once speaking to someone on the phone and she says to me that I should “Jew Down the Price”. The person had no Idea I was jewish and didnt even think that was offensive. I do sales and normally you are supposed to be composed over the phone (They called me , not a cold me from me) and I told them how offensive it was to say “Jew down the price”
Last year there was a ferver and a want to do this, this year that ferver is gone and there isnt much energy to do this except among a few people.
I meant workers were not all kind, but there were workers of all kinds Many kinds of Chassidish and Yeshivish and MO’s . Should have corrected my typo
I dont know what it was, All I can tell you there was a running joke that the fish meals were the Chabad meals
I used to work at a place owned by Satmar and during the “Holiday season” they would provide dinner to the workers because they had to work late because of the extra customers.
Even though the place was owned by Satmar’s the workers were all kind and there was a running joke about some meals being Satmar meals and other being Lubavich meals. It seems the Lubavichers would not eat the meat from the Satmar place and would only eat the fish meals
Todays Chassidus really has very little in common with the Chassidus of the baal Shem tov, only Brezlov and maybe Chabad are close
Sam, are you claiming that R’ Moshe’s teshuvah was based on misinformation?
I dont have an answer here, but Many times I see the exact same quote in regards to tshushvas. For example There was a Psak recently from Rav kanivesky regarding Eiden and Smart phones and many said it was based on misinformation.
KJ Chusid did not write that, it was cut and pasted from something
Chassidus began in Galacia, not Hungary. Medibutch was in Galacia
They survived the haskalah much better than traditional Orthodox Jews did.
Not true. You might be thinking of Oberlander which survived because Hungary was hit later in the war, however jews from Poland/Ukraine (Galacia) was one of the biggest places for the haskalah in fact how often do you hear much about jews from Galacia except in a history book even though many jews come from that area (They especially came to the US)
Personal relationship here does not mean anything “against halacha” . It more means, you get along, ask each other about your families maybe shoot the breeze and then get down to business (Down to Business does not mean anything against Halacha) it means REAL business like in buying and selling.
If you come off as cold and hard , you wont get the business
So if there is a Blizzard, Thunderstorm, Tornado or Hurricane outside you are showing you disdain for Yiddishkeit and lack committment if you dont walk to shul
Joseph
What does a jew look like?
If the person does not have a beard, Peyos or dress like a jew, how are they supposed to know who is a jew?
Sure you can. Israel already arrests any Jew on Har HaBayis who prays.
They already do that, if you are caught praying you are asked to leave immediately
Doesnt Rashi occasionally use French terms in his Perush
Rain is a very indescript term, A drizzle is rain, but so is a downpour thats its impossible not to get drenched
Israel should implement a policy prohibiting any Jew from ascending to the HH”B.
Such a law would be impossible to enforce, you cant ask everyone person what their relgion is and some might very well lie
Actually taking a female coworker to lunch is a seperate issue
What if you are taking someone to lunch as a business lunch in order to discuss some sort of business (Alot of business deals sort of work on informality and personal relationships..ie people only buy from people they like)
There are also company lunches in order to create some sort of comadary and make a better business environment
Rav Kook was a gadol, Even the Charedim thought so, they just did not like that he was too close to the early zionists
Walking up to the temple mount is not the same as someone yelling in a religious ferver kill the jews
If R’L some “Rabbi” would give a firery speech yelling kill the infidel muslims, then THAT would be incitement
DY
You are making an assumption many dont hold by, that visting that har Habyis is causing this terrorism, others hold that Arabs with knives are causing terrorism, not visiting the Har Habayis
What if the message is “Since you dont appreciate har Habayis and visit it, I will take it away from you”
You are assuming she can Bike or there is public transportation available
Who is blind to see Hashems’s wrath on those who play with the Holy Har Habayis. 10 day of attacks are not enough
And do you have a direct line to hashem to know this for a fact?
What if the woman is the sole support of her family and without this ride she has no Parnassah for her family
Nobody calls Rav Kook MO. The only differnce between Rav Kook and other Charedi Rabbis was that he was very Zionistic which was controversial for his time
according to R Krohn (and others) in his book about naming a child, yiddish is secular.
Exactly what defines a language as secular or relgious? Just because today only frum Jews speak Yiddish (except for some old people) that was not the case in the past. Yiddish secualr culture has a strong history with the biggest classic being Tevye the Milkman (Fiddler on the Roof)
According to people here, its proper to kick out people for not following your exact lifestyle and the people who are more accepting of people who might not follow everything are guilty of their averiahs because they do not kicking them out.
And I know of people who were kicked out of certain groups because their either cut their beard , cut their Peyos or refused to shave their heads
Just because they exist, doesnt mean there are lot of them. I doubt there are many MO’s who become Satmar or Sverer
Joseph, it is not fair to say that the MO’s who keep Halacha become Haredi.That is just speculation.
What is fair to say the MO’s are very zionistic and many decide to stop being armchair zionists and become real zionists and make Aliyah and become Dati Leumi in Israel.
Mamale
Many MO’s do give their kids jewish names, Just not Yiddish names Like bearish or Fraida. They will give them more Hebrew names like Moshe or Chava
And the MO schools teach Hebrew so many MO’s can speak passable Hebrew ,Last I checked Hebrew was a Jewish Language
People who dont keep Halacha, but call themselves MO’s are not true MO’s. However other Mo’s are not willing to dismiss them because the alternative is worse. The general feeling is better to have a person who keeps 70% of Halacha, than a person who keeps 0% of Halacha
Funny I dont know any MO jews who will eat in the homes of Non-jews unless the person has plastic plates and orders food from a kosher place.
There is no Pick and Choose on Kashruth for MO , Either its Kosher or its not, It is true that not everyone keeps everything, but they really arent MO people