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August 18, 2011 6:11 pm at 6:11 pm #598718happy faceMember
When i got engaged, i heard some terrible news, and a friend told me that i should not think too much about it because i am a kallah, and kallahs have to be happy! is it a true inyan? it’s not easy to just brush off sad news even if you are a kallah or chosson!! i know that you’re allowed to be sad sometimes, but to what extend???
August 18, 2011 7:18 pm at 7:18 pm #799500mustangriderMemberI’m sorry i cant help – i never heard of this…
August 18, 2011 7:32 pm at 7:32 pm #799501happy faceMembermaybe it’s just not true?!?! Thanks anyway! So nice of you to care!
August 18, 2011 7:41 pm at 7:41 pm #799502yitayningwutParticipantI don’t think there is an “inyan” for this, as in a source in Torah literature etc. However, it is a valid point. It is a good thing to focus on one thing at a time, otherwise you’ll never experience anything. Imagine in a few years you’re leaning back on your recliner and taking in past experiences in your life. You’ll want to know that you lived the happy times to their fullest, and the sad times too. This way it might just be all muddled.
August 18, 2011 7:43 pm at 7:43 pm #799503mustangriderMemberbtw, mazel tov on your engagement! i assume its something recent?
August 18, 2011 7:44 pm at 7:44 pm #799504Bar ShattyaMemberSo far as I know there are no Halachic ramifications to an engagement.
A kallah is a kallah for 168 hours following a chuppah
August 18, 2011 8:17 pm at 8:17 pm #799505happy faceMemberit’s actually not so recent, but thanks! yitayningwut, you’re right! I was talking and thinking alot about the terrible news, and it wasn’t so healthy, especially when i hadto focus on other things!
August 18, 2011 9:03 pm at 9:03 pm #799506WIYMemberHappy face
Halachically there is no such thing as engagement. You are only Chapman and Allah after the chasing. Or at the minimum after kiddushin. Engagement is a non Jewish concept.
August 18, 2011 9:04 pm at 9:04 pm #799507Sam2ParticipantIt’s good advice; you have too many other things to worry about. There is no Halachic imperative or “Inyan” though.
August 18, 2011 9:23 pm at 9:23 pm #799508ToiParticipantR gedalya schoor writes that the simcha of engagement of nowadays is that 40 days b4 leidas havlad a bas kol goes out” bas ploinee l’ben ploinee” and on this world we dont know who it is. when people are mishadeich its mivarer the safek- v’ein simcha k’hataras hasfeikos
August 18, 2011 9:35 pm at 9:35 pm #799509charliehallParticipant“Engagement is a non Jewish concept.”
That is not exactly true, as we have the institutions of the Kidushin, the Tenaim, and now the Vort.
August 18, 2011 9:40 pm at 9:40 pm #799510happy faceMemberi always thought there were special rules and privileges for a kallah!! Thanks you everyone for your informative responses! It’s still special to be a kallah!!
August 18, 2011 11:41 pm at 11:41 pm #799511WIYMember“Halachically there is no such thing as engagement. You are only Chapman and Allah after the chasing. Or at the minimum after kiddushin. Engagement is a non Jewish concept.”
I hate when my phone does this lol. I meant Chassan and Kallah after the chasunah.
August 19, 2011 1:03 am at 1:03 am #799512am yisrael chaiParticipantHow about ???????, esp. those who do it WAY before the ????????
August 19, 2011 1:32 am at 1:32 am #799513mustangriderMemberWIY – i rolling when i read your first post! but yeah i figuered thats what you meant! lol!
August 19, 2011 2:54 am at 2:54 am #799514smartcookieMemberHappy face- there’s definitely an inyan for a Kallah to be happy when it gets closer to the Chasuna. But during your entire engagement, I guess the happiness should be natural!
3 days prior to my wedding, my grandmother passed away. The Rav told us, that the Kallah should not think about the tragedy, and I shouldnt be sad. On the contrary, I should try extra hard to be happy in these few days before my wedding.
August 19, 2011 3:25 am at 3:25 am #799515am yisrael chaiParticipantsmartcookie
that must have been tough
August 19, 2011 6:08 am at 6:08 am #799516Kshmo Kein HuMemberWIY-
Phew I thought that was some movie reference I wasn’t getting and I was feeling out of it
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