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She mentions Yeshiva World by name, and says it’s better not to know every detail of the news that happens in remote places.
She’s correct.
One should not be the bearer of bad news.
Nebach.
Ain poranuos baolam ela bishvil yisroel.
It’s erev yom kippur so I’ll refrain. Incredible how a woman can spit such hot air into a crowd of clueless women, and then it’s available on the Internet for the rest of the world.
We are jews, used to different opinions since time immemorial. I agree with you Ferd.
As a mother of with five girls I have always taught them the following .Every day we pray and thank Hashem for our blessings, being aware of what is happening and showing rachamim is part of our way.
Shikur Ferd, generally when someone starts a sentence with, “No offense but…” it is generally followed by something offensive. “I don’t mean to be rude…” is generally followed by something rude.
Calling someone a ferd followed by “It’s erev yom kippur so I’ll refrain” doesn’t change the fact that you just called someone a ferd on Erev Yom Kippur -because you disagree with what she said- in what can only be considered public. Because as someone once said “and then it’s available on the Internet for the rest of the world.”
Who is this Rebbetzin? I’ve never heard of her before…
Ferd, exactly what are your qualifications for denegrating a noted speaker? Any psychiatrist, psychologist or other health care professional will tell you that bad news (whether personal or political) can increase stress and stress may be bad for your health. First you say that because it is Erev YK you shall refrain, which I take to mean from speaking lashon hora, then you call the Rebbetzin’s audience a bunch of clueless women. I can assure you that amongst her audience are very “clued in” woman – and high numbers of them, many with university degrees and many holding down very responsible jobs. Nobody is forcing you to listen to her message, but you certainly make yourself look less than perfect (which we all are) by criticizing those who do.
And another thing Mr. (Mrs.?) Shikur Ferd…Not only did you call someone -by name- a Shikur Ferd on Erev Yom Kippur in public but you also called all those nameless women who attend and listen to her shiurim clueless.
minyan gal – Bad news can cause stress, but it’s up to the individual to determine how much they can handle. To say noone should ever read news is very wrong. A person’s life is not meant to be stress free. We have spoiled ourselves and our kids beyond any generation before us. It has come to the point we can’t handle if our husband bought the wrong thing in the grocery store. I saw a woman yesterday scream “No”, when her husband asked her to hold the chicken or to put the chicken over her head. If she didn’t want to have anything to do with chickens, why come? You can use money for Kapporos. This post isn’t just about women, in our generation e/o is spoiled. When they get married and want to learn in Kollel they expect s/o to give them a car, a house, etc. Kollel even 20 -25 years ago – people who went to Kollel expected to live in poverty. Publicly saying we shouldn’t be exposed to any bad news helps feed the spoiling of our generation!
Health, the women went to kaparos because that is her families minhag. Maybe she didn’t want to hold it but it would have been ok to her if her husband held it. I don’t think that has anything to do with being spoiled. Fact is, many people find it disgusting to hold live animals. Myself included.
happiest -It’s also part of the minhag to have the chicken over your head. If you don’t want to keep the Minhag the way it’s supposed to be, because you’re scared or whatever, then use money. I don’t think she would be scared to hold money over her head, do you?
health- I cannot rem the last time I thought you were totally wrong but I think your post above is 100% wrong. she went to kaparos because her family goes and she wanted to do the mitzva but no where does it say she has to personally hold the chicken!
adorable -Read my post right before yours.
I am appalled that someone would call a noted speaker a name and put them down publicly-it’s beyond comprehension – you could politely disagree-I could say strong things about it but i will refrain, Rebbetzin Schwartz speaks on many subjects, people love listening to her on Chazak, and on cd’s-She is R’ Heineman’s daughter, quite brilliant, very down to earth, inspiring in a very pleasant way. I would be surprised if she spoke without checking things out to make sure that they are ‘oisgehalten’.
seeallsides – “She is R’ Heineman’s daughter”
From Balto.? What number down is she? I know the two oldest and she isn’t one of them.
Health, I agree that your post is wrong.
I’ve been doing Kapporos for years and NEVER did I touch it myself. My husband turns it over my head for me while I say “Zeh Chalifasi”.
No, I don’t call that spoiled.
I know hundreds of others who Shlug Kaporos this way.
oops – maybe R’Eisemann’s daughter – i will check -sorry about that
smartcookie -“Health, I agree that your post is wrong.
I’ve been doing Kapporos for years and NEVER did I touch it myself. My husband turns it over my head for me while I say “Zeh Chalifasi”.”
To remain a smart cookie you have to read the posts. She didn’t even let the chicken over her head. This isn’t the Minhag -so she should have used money instead of making a scene!
Yup health- just realized the “or” put it over her head! Sorry!
And just to clarify- my screen name isn’t meant to imply that I’m smart. Not at all. I just loved that name!
And just to clarify- my screen name isn’t meant to imply that I’m smart. Not at all.
I’m glad you clarified that. 😉
Remember how Sara Imenu died after the “news” she was given…
Remember how Serach bas Asher used music to soften the news…
BTW, consistent bad news, if nothing else, usually desensitizes one to some extent…and/or can put one in a more negative frame of mind
Dr- and why does that make you so glad?
am yisrael chai -“BTW, consistent bad news, if nothing else, usually desensitizes one to some extent…and/or can put one in a more negative frame of mind”
Perhaps, but that should be up to the individual how much they can handle. Noone should get up publicly and say no to reading or listening to any bad news.
“Perhaps, but that should be up to the individual how much they can handle. Noone should get up publicly and say no to reading or listening to any bad news.”
One can make the same argument vis-a-vis internet, texting, etc.
“One can make the same argument vis-a-vis internet, texting, etc.”
What argument is that? And I do both.
that it should be up to the individual how much they can handle.
However, personally I feel the latter two is more addictive than the newspaper reading.
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