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  • in reply to: How did the Marvelous Middos Machine know in advance #2271106
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    The MMM operated with algorithms that were able to predict human behavior with astonishing accuracy, and so it was able to activate Midos Alerts even before the actual aveira was committed.

    That said, since the MMM is not the Ribono Shel Olam and so does not have actual Yedia, there must be times when the algorithm was inaccurate. I imagine that these cases resulted in often comical misfires of the MMM. Of course, the cases that have been preserved for posterity comprise a sort of “Best of the MMM” collection.

    I think that Abie should put out an album of MMM Bloopers. This would be potentially even more entertaining than the existing record.

    As an aside, @munkatch, the chair wasn’t actually a time machine, it was a sleep and dream machine. Shnooky didn’t really meet young George Washington (who, incidentally, never really admitted to chopping down the tree).

    in reply to: President Zaphod: Hail to Myself #2258577
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    Zaphor, you can earn my vote by adding one plank to your platform:

    Replace the Vogons who work at the DMV with actual people.

    in reply to: Defeating Those Who Want Us Dead #2230753
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    Hesh Kastin is obviously a terribly misguided person who apparently has no confidence in the מנהיג הבירה.

    לא זו דרך התורה.

    in reply to: New Brooklyn Eruv: Time to Accept? #2187105
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    @lakewhut,

    Yes, according to Rav Moshe v’siyato, anyone who carries in Brooklyn on Shabbos is mechalel Shabbos.

    If they are ill-advisedly listening to someone who thinks there is a valid Eiruv, they are not Reshai’m, but this does not change the facts of the case.

    in reply to: Rants on Demand #2167953
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    I request a rant on how terrible it is that politicians consider themselves above the law. Nobody knows this better than the President of the Galaxy, so I’m expecting a rather lengthy discourse.

    in reply to: Trump Chia Pet #2149920
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    @CTLAWYER: “Wishing someone dead and buried is inappropriate.”

    I couldn’t agree more. The vitriol of our political environment – for which Sean Hannity and Fox News are to blame as much as Dana Bash and CNN – has warped the perspective and sensitivity of many people.

    It is unhealthy to allow yourself to become so immersed in political commentary that you lose sight of your own true values.

    in reply to: Hedonism in honor of Chanuka, to benefit Tzedaka #2147554
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    Ubiquitin,

    The Hellenists followed the example of the Greeks in venerating Pleasure and the physical aspect of man.

    The referenced story is a perfect example of such a value system. It subordinates the concept of tzedaka to the deification of Pleasure in order to make the hedonism more palatable to frum people.

    This is not tzedaka; certainly not in the sense of “righteousness”, nor even in the sense of “charity.” On the contrary, this is the perversion of those concepts in order to quell the conscience and permit grossly excessive gluttony in violation of the spirit of the Torah.

    Reb Eliezer –

    I have no idea what your comment has to do with this thread. I also do not think I agree with your particular formulation of the message. Perhaps something got lost in translation. What is the source?

    in reply to: Mods? Mods? #2147434
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    Relax, Oh Great and Awesome Mod.

    I saw the time stamp, but I don’t know how your system works. I posted about it for over a week with no response from Your Modness, before finally seeing the thread, with a Mod’s post from today that it is active.

    Is it unreasonable to think it possible that the thread was only first approved today, but with my original time stamp?

    Essentially, I was asking the other Participant if he could confirm that it was my error, and that the thread had been up the whole time.

    I apologize for any slight to the honor and prestige of Your Great and Benevolent Modness.

    Not sure what all the attitude is about. I am neither Great nor Awesome, as evidenced by what I am obligated to approve. I assumed my posting shortly after your request was a response.  I will humbly try much harder to please in the future.

    🙂

    in reply to: Is a Kashrus Agency the Moral Police? #2147431
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    n0mesorah, that may be true, just as many people value form over function in anything they buy.
    The quality manufacturer still makes sure to produce quality goods.
    Much the same way, the quality hashgacha will make sure to provide reliable kosher certification, even if the customers’ main focus is on the music.

    in reply to: Mods? Mods? #2147369
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    ujm, it’s now up, with a claim by the moderator (posted this afternoon) that it has been up the whole time. I didn’t see it up until now; did you?

    My OP in that thread is unaltered from how I first posted it. Do you think it is objectionable?

    Really? You are double checking with him that it’s been up? You posted on the 6th that it was missing. I found it and posted it. Check the time stamp.

    You’re welcome

    in reply to: Mods? Mods? #2147173
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    It was about the excessive obsession with food that has become widespread in the frum community.

    I had commented on an article on the main page, and the comment never went up, so I tried starting a conversation about said article.

    Still no word from the Mods.

    Thanks for asking.

    in reply to: Mods? Mods? #2146591
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    I don’t understand why my thread was not approved.

    Maybe if a Mod responded, they could explain it to me.

    But it’s been nearly a full week, and I’ve heard nothing.

    in reply to: Is a Kashrus Agency the Moral Police? #2146437
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    It’s not unreasonable for people to prefer a certain type of atmosphere when they go to a restaurant (or anywhere else, for that matter).

    This is not close-mindedness, but simply a matter of personal preference.

    I resent the allegation that my choice to avoid restaurants with a certain atmosphere means that I am a judgmental person

    I see no problem with a hashgacha catering to its clientele, even if only as a business decision.

    You seem to think that the hashgacha both (a) has no place regulating anything other than actual food kashrus, AND (b) should tell people not to judge.

    in reply to: Is a Kashrus Agency the Moral Police? #2146156
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    Lakewhut: “Is a kashrus agency the moral police?”

    Also Lakewhut: “Why can’t a hashgacha lead the way and tell people who are closed minded not to judge.” (sic)

    So you want the hashgacha to be the moral police, but only to enforce those aspects of morality which appeal to you. OK, then.

    in reply to: Is a Kashrus Agency the Moral Police? #2145981
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    The idea that people involved in servicing the religious needs of the frum community must be oblivious to market realities is absurd.

    Hashgachos are aware that many consumers make assumptions about the ambience of an establishment based on the Hashgacha it carries. Is it wrong of the Hashgacha to give its customers what they want?

    Suppose (for the sake of the argument) that it’s true that Hashgachos make many decisions for monetary considerations. Is there anything wrong with that?

    I believe that Nike didn’t sever ties with Kanye West out of righteous indignation, but because they didn’t want to damage their brand. Is Nike the morality police?

    In any case, it’s difficult to separate “protecting the brand” from “maintaining our ability to provide excellent Hashgacha services.” A bankrupt Hashgacha does not help the kosher consumer, no matter how altruistic are its principles.

    in reply to: Cherem on sefer “Pshuto Shel Mikra” #2145167
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    @AviraDeArah:

    It is an incontestable fact that numerous Gedolei Acharonim knowingly and deliberately explain Pesukim in ways that are irreconcilably different from Chazal. I don’t know what you mean by “[not] arguing fully.”

    Rav Hirsch wrote an extensive explanation of his position on this issue, which is published in Volume IX of his Collected Writings.

    I acknowledge that there are those who disagree, but it appears that the mainstream, majority opinion among both Rishonim and Acharonim is that Aggados Chazal (including, but not limited to, Midrashic explanations of Pesukim) are not Torah M’Sinai, and we are free to reject them (It scarcely needs to be said that we do so at our own peril, and we are well advised to exercise extreme caution in this regard).

    I know this is not what we were taught in Yeshiva. That doesn’t change the facts.

    I would love to see this Abarbanel; can you provide the reference? I am rather skeptical that there is any sort of “consensus of Achronim” reading the Ramban that way; the annotated Mosad HaRav Kook (it’s been a while, but I think it was from MHK) version does not provide many such references. If you would, I would greatly appreciate it.

    in reply to: Mods? Mods? #2145168
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    Is my thread going to be approved?

    in reply to: Cherem on sefer “Pshuto Shel Mikra” #2145155
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    The Ohr HaChaim quoted above is far from a Da’as Yachid.

    The Malbim, the Netziv, Rav Hirsch, and many other Gedolei HoAcharonim regularly explain Pesukim differently from Chazal, let alone Rashi and the other Rishonim.

    The Ramban in multiple places in his commentary on Chumash makes it clear that we are not bound to Chazal’s interpretation of the Pesukim, a point he makes explicitly in his Sefer Haviku’ach.*

    There is no question that, as the Ramban says, Rashi is first and foremost among the Meforshei HaTorah. This, however, was never understood to mean that we are required to follow his interpretation.

    The ban seems very strange to me.

    *There are, of course, those who say that the Ramban didn’t really mean it, that he just used that as a winning argument in a debate. To my mind, this is a slanderous accusation, which amounts to the assertion that the Ramban espoused kefira because it would help him win the debate. The Chasam Sofer (in his Teshuvos) accepts that the Ramban meant what he said, and that he intended it in reference both to Midrashim and Aggadeta Gemaros.

    in reply to: Ripping the letters on heimish candy on Shabbos #2131473
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    It should be noted that according to many Poskim there is no problem with opening such wrappers on Shabbos. Rav Moshe Feinstein explicitly permitted people to open sugar packets on Shabbos even though this entailed ripping through letters and words.

    Nevertheless, common practice is to refrain from this activity. The fact that Frum-owned companies are not sensitive to this issue has been a pet peeve of mine for many years.

    in reply to: Thank you for your love, best wishes and prayers #2120167
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    ברוך דיין האמת
    המקום ינחם אתכם בתוך שאר אבילי ציון וירושלים

    in reply to: HaChinuch vs HaMitzvos #2086997
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    It really depends on what you’re looking for; the various seforim are not necessarily similar styles.

    I personally use Sefer HaChinuch and Rav Shamshon Rafael Hirsch’s Chorev more than the others.

    in reply to: words that are not commonly used these day, #2081826
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    @ujm

    Your version of “Yiddishe tznius” is revisionist history. At least in the Litvishe world, this is not the mesorah.

    Rav Isser Zalman Meltzer, for instance, called his wife “Baila Hinda” in public. He is by no means an isolated example, but illustrative of the norm.

    The idea that women and womanhood cannot be acknowledged out loud is harmful in many ways, not the least of which is that it distorts the true Torah concepts of tznius and shalom bayis.

    in reply to: Favorite herring flavors? #1977588
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    GH: I could belabor the point by referring to the numerous Mishnayos, Gemaros, Halachos, etc. that mention and discuss מליח הישן and קוליס האספנין.

    Instead, I’ll just clarify the point, because you apparently are from Rio Linda:

    Lighten up.

    in reply to: Favorite herring flavors? #1977196
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    Finally, an important topic in the CR.

    Matjas is my favorite, with Schmaltz a close second. Pickled is bal tashchis.

    While some of the new types/flavors are tasty, I must make a Macha’ah because they are not part of the Mesorah. [That said, I will not turn down a piece of Jalapeno herring. The pepper-crusted ones are also delicious].

    in reply to: everything bad is due to the trumpkopf #1968374
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    @CTL

    Now even the New York Times agrees that the SALT deduction should be completely erased.

    It’s a shame I can’t post the link here, but the article is in today’s editorial.

    in reply to: Life without Parole for Youths #1967869
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    Well, there is still a burden of proof.

    Even when the defendant is a conservative.

    Congress is free to change the law; the Supreme Court is bound to apply it as written.

    in reply to: According to the Torah, was Chauvin Allowed to Kill Floyd? #1967402
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    @TLIK

    1. Killing any person is murder.

    2. The Torah prescribes a code of conduct for non-Jews. Whether the non-Jews choose to follow the Halacha or not is irrelevant. The question in the OP was what the Halacha says about this case, which is an interesting question.

    @lakewhut
    Even if you witness a murder you may not kill the perpetrator, even though moments before he was a rodef.
    As others pointed out, even in the case of a rodef, if יכול להצילו באחד מאיבריו and you killed him, you’re the murderer.

    in reply to: everything bad is due to the trumpkopf #1966758
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    He’s right, there is not consensus among the members of the commission that there is One G-d. Even people who serve Avoda Zara may serve only one god, but I would never want to join them in a “universal prayer.” This has nothing to Achduso Yisborach.

    in reply to: everything bad is due to the trumpkopf #1966275
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    @CTL

    “residents of your state can’t pay higher Federal Taxes than residents of my state. The Federal tax rates are uniform across the country.”

    You’re smarter than you pretend to be with this argument. Obviously, Federal tax rates are nominally uniform across the country. However, people who pay SALT and deduct accordingly from their Federal taxes, practically speaking, pay a lower rate than similar taxpayers in other states. This is a Federal subsidy to your state, paid for (in part) by mine.

    “Loads of residents of my state don’t itemize or aren’t affected by the 10K cap on state tax deductions.”

    Your initial complaint belies this argument.

    The people who pay most of the taxes most likely do itemize, and presumably more people itemized when there was no cap on the SALT deduction.

    Here’s the bottom line: With no cap on the SALT deduction, people who pay SALT don’t really pay SALT, they simply shift money from the Federal government to their state. With a cap, this is still true, albeit to a lesser degree. This means that of two people in identical financial positions, the one in Texas pays a higher amount in taxes to the Federal government than does the one in California. This may not show in an analysis of “tax dollars sent to Washington” versus “money received back,” but it is effectively a Federal subsidy to California, paid for by the people of Texas.

    If California wants to offer high pensions to its employees and expensive services to its residents, that’s fine with me. The people of California can do whatever they want. The people in my state have chosen not to pay for these things, which is our prerogative. If we don’t pay to have these things here, why should we pay to have them in California?

    in reply to: Learning lomdas #1966022
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    To the OP:

    Let’s replace “שלוחו של אדם כמותו” with another Halacha to crystalize the question.

    Why can’t we just take it for granted that the time to light candles on Erev Shabbos is 5:08 without the “mechanics” behind it?

    Obviously, you need to understand why the time to light on a particular Friday is 5:08 in order to apply that knowledge to a different week.

    The same idea is true of all other Halachos.

    in reply to: everything bad is due to the trumpkopf #1966019
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    @CTL

    Your personal wealth does not interest me in the slightest, and I find your penchant for flaunting it distasteful, to say the least.

    It is also irrelevant to the current conversation.

    The fact that your state “sends more dollars to Washington in taxes than it receives back” is equally irrelevant.

    Residents of your state and locality pay lower Federal taxes than do residents of my state and locality. This deduction subsidizes state expenditures which are paid for by state and local taxes, and disproportionally burdens my state for the Federal budget.

    In other words, the SALT deduction enables you to pay for things with my money. Whether you personally benefit directly from these expenditures or not has no bearing on this fact.

    I agree that too many loopholes exist in the tax code.

    in reply to: Why liberalism is against the torah #1965983
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    This is stupid.

    Neither “liberalism” nor “conservatism” aligns perfectly with the Torah.

    It’s very easy for both liberals and conservatives to “prove” that theirs is the Torah way, and the others are against the Ratzon Hashem.

    I have no problem with people arguing about liberalism vs. conservatism. Just let’s please not pretend that a debate about US ideology somehow involves the Torah.

    in reply to: everything bad is due to the trumpkopf #1965935
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    @CTL

    “The list goes on, especially as I am about to file taxes and am limited to a $10,000 deduction for state and local taxes, a direct Republican/Trump attack on all of us who live in blue states”

    People who live in blue states choose to pay for things that people who live in red states choose to do without. There is no reason that people who live in red states should subsidize the choices of people who live in blue states. This is part of the beauty of the federal system.

    Real fairness would be to have absolutely no SALT deduction at all. Federal income tax should be completely unrelated to state and local taxes.

    Why am I, a lower-middle-class Rebbe who struggles to make ends meet, subsidizing the luxuries of people like CTL?

    in reply to: Only Gitten #1965331
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    Many years ago, “Yankel”, a guy in the Yeshiva I learned in (in Eretz Yisrael) got engaged shortly after Shavuos. I went back to the States for the summer.
    That Elul, I bumped into Yankel. After wishing him a hartzige Mazel Tov, we shmoozed about where he was living, etc.
    After a five minute conversation, I continued on my way and met “Shmuly”.
    He says, “Such a shame about Yankel!”

    Turns out, they didn’t even make it through Sheva Berachos…

    in reply to: Sof Zman Tefillah #1963561
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    I don’t have a good explanation for that.

    Maybe מוטב שיהו שוגגין?

    in reply to: Sof Zman Tefillah #1963449
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    “Reb” Eliezer

    My statement was that “it should also be noted that according to שלחן ערוך, you may not be able to daven later if you missed the zman במזיד.” [I assume this is the part of my post you refer to.]

    Your response: “catch yourself, what you sayng is incorrect according to the interpretation of the O’CH 89 MB s’k 6.”

    I’ll readily acknowledge that I misattributed the reference. The correct reference should be to the very Mishna Berura that you notated.

    The Mishna Berura there says that if a person missed zman Tefila במזיד, it’s best for him to Daven בתורת נדבה (with a תנאי to cover the possible חיוב), since it is possible that he is no longer able to Daven the required Tefila.

    This discussion is specifically about a person who missed zman Tefila במזיד and now wants to Daven before חצות. Please note that if he did not Daven before חצות he will not be allowed to Daven Mincha twice.

    Also noteworthy is the fact that the Mishna Berura does not agree that a person who missed the zman can still Daven Shacharis during the half hour after Chatzos. B’dieved, he says that if you did, you should not Daven Mincha twice.


    @ujm

    In a published Teshuva about your question, Rav Moshe Feinstein writes that it is not our responsibility to understand the actions of Gedolim, but that we must follow Shulchan Aruch.

    in reply to: CAN THERE BE ALIENS?? #1963042
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    I’ve never heard that story about Rav Moshe before. If it’s true, the quote proves that while extraterrestrial life is unlikely to exist, there is nothing in the Torah that precludes the possibility that it does.

    in reply to: Sof Zman Tefillah #1962978
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    “Reb” Eliezer

    Your blatant disregard for Halacha is shocking. The Gemara and the Halacha are both crystal clear that you ***must*** daven before סוף זמן תפלה. Davening after the זמן is בדיעבד. The fact that if a person did not do so, he may still be able to salvage some aspect of תפלה does not change this basic requirement (it should also be noted that according to שלחן ערוך, you may not be able to daven later if you missed the zman במזיד).

    Additionally, you dismiss the difference as if it were negligible, and you have the temerity to ascribe your mistake to the Gemara. What concept do you have of the difference between שכר תפלה בזמנה and שכר תפלה?

    in reply to: Reality Check on Spirit Airlines #1962797
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    @common saychel

    I’m very happy for you to profit from my saving money. That’s how capitalism works.

    I don’t like that Spirit has the lowest paid employees in the industry (if they in fact do, which I have not bothered to investigate), but that’s not my fight. I’m all for people getting as much money as they can, and if Spirit is forced to raise prices to retain their workforce, that will be too bad on me.

    I never contended that Spirit is a charitable organization, or that they should be honored at the next Agudah dinner. I was merely pointing out that their business model (which is obviously motivated purely by profit) is beneficial to many Jewish people (this was a very thinly veiled reference to the Gemara in the beginning of Maseches Avoda Zara about the other nations claiming reward for activities that benefited Klal Yisrael).


    @CHOOSID

    The [undeserved] relentless bad press to which YWN subjects Spirit surely does not go unnoticed. While you may be right that a YWN-based boycott wouldn’t kill Spirit, all of these articles and comments probably result in Spirit having a more jaded attitude towards people like me. In the end, your boycott will make my trips more expensive and less enjoyable.

    You can joke around all you want about their extra fees, but I’m the one who’s laughing on the way to the bank.

    in reply to: Reality Check on Spirit Airlines #1962710
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    On my flight yesterday there were over a dozen obviously Frum families, altogether probably more than fifty people. I didn’t notice any of them (or anyone else) who was not in compliance with the mask rules.
    Nobody was kicked off the flight, and we got home pretty much on time.
    The flight cost me $17 per passenger, plus $2 for a coffee [in-flight] for me (free refills) and $3 for a drink for each person (purchased after security). We also paid for four checked bags ($41 each, which is higher than it used to be).
    Total cost: $286 one way, or $572 round trip, for 6 passengers.

    If you follow the rules, you have no problem and you get to take advantage of low prices.

    in reply to: Are you a Ka'eylah Jew? #1961979
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    I really missed the כאלה אידין last year.

    Until Parashas Pinchas, then we got a whole week’s worth in one shot 🙂

    Unfortunately, this year I’m with a very serious crowd. While leining on the first day of Yom Tov, I paused for the choir and got a stony silence.

    in reply to: Tznius of the legs – Oz V’hadar Levusha #1960739
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    @Yserbius – Halacha is not woke.

    If someone says, “As an עם הארץ, I do not feel I should have an opinion…” that’s one thing.

    Do you think that only potatoes can have an opinion on whether it should be muttar to use peelers on Yom Tov?

    Why shouldn’t a man have an opinion on a Halachic question that is practically relevant only to women?

    Should your Rav (who is a man) be precluded from ruling on Niddah shaylos?

    in reply to: Sidney Powell admits she lied #1959880
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    Well, it’s hard to disagree with this particular assertion by her legal team.

    in reply to: Reality Check on Spirit Airlines #1959400
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    Common saychel

    Fly what you like. Just don’t disturb my ability to do the same, that’s all I ask.

    I’ve never had a problem with anyone from Spirit.

    I personally have never flown Frontier. From what I hear, it’s a similar experience to Spirit. The complaint I’ve heard about it is that, being a smaller airline, it has fewer flights on each route, so if something goes wrong you might be out of luck. If your flight is canceled (due to weather or whatever), you might rescheduled for several days later. A friend of mine had to purchase last minute tickets on another airline to get to his sibling’s wedding because of this.

    Granted, this was a while ago, so the situation might have changed by now.

    in reply to: Reality Check on Spirit Airlines #1959235
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    AAQ,

    I almost exclusively buy tickets at the airport. You can typically (though not always) save about $15 per ticket ($30/round trip) by doing so.

    You can bring empty water bottles through security, and fill them at water stations in the terminal. and you can save money on drinks for the flight as well. If desired, bring some iced tea powder.

    Mine was one of the families that were able to take an otherwise impossible vacation this past summer thanks to Spirit’s low fares.

    in reply to: Reality Check on Spirit Airlines #1958932
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    So fly Frontier
    Or either United or JetBlue if you want something more reliable

    I have no vested interest in Spirit or any other airline, and I know that they don’t always have the cheapest fares. This does not detract from my basic point that Spirit is often by far the cheapest option, even including all the extra fees. Attacking Spirit hurts people like me, who actually save a lot of money by flying with them.

    in reply to: Reality Check on Spirit Airlines #1958229
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    @ezra101

    The myth is the idea that Spirit’s added fees bring the cost of flying with them close to that of other airlines.

    Spirit doesn’t fly to (or from) JFK. NY area airports are LGA and EWR. If you want to go to Lakewood, you can also try PHI and ACY.

    FLL-EWR on Spirit as of a few nights ago was $17 (just over half of what you thought).

    A bottle of water in-flight costs $3, not $10

    A carry on is not the same as a personal item. Most people traveling with a whole family usually check their luggage either way, so the carry on fee is mostly irrelevant. Personal items are free, in addition to your bag of food and any drinks you choose to buy after passing security. But let’s say I pay the $30 (or however much it is; I don’t actually know) for the carry on. Now I’m at $50.

    My return flight was the same price, so let’s call it $100 for the round trip.

    I checked all three airlines you recommended for the dates and airports of my flights. The cheapest of them was AA for $207 for the one round trip ticket, or more than double what I paid on Spirit including the drink and the carry on.

    Delta and JetBlue were both considerably more expensive.

    Incidentally, for any flights booked after the end of February 2021 and scheduled in July 2021 or later, JetBlue will be charging for carry on bags.

    I noticed this after closing the Delta and AA tabs, so I didn’t check with them. But I wouldn’t be surprised if they follow suit soon enough. It’s the same as charging for checked bags. Everyone screamed when Spirit started with it, but I think Southwest is the last airline that still doesn’t charge (although I may be wrong about that).

    In any case, for a family of 10 ticketed passengers, on Spirit you’re paying a total of under $800 round trip including checked bags and drinks, assuming that you don’t pay for carry on bags (fair assumption, since most people don’t).

    And these fares are readily available. It’s not like something you hear about that other people always do, but you can’t get.

    No other major airline comes even close.

    in reply to: shalom bayis problems #1957392
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    This Mezuza vort is. like so much else, something that sounds good in a speech but doesn’t really hold water.

    That’s not what a compromise is.

    We are careful to fulfill both shitos with Mezuza, like in so many other areas of Halacha.

    Of course compromise is good, in מילי דעלמא. Like all Midos, “easygoing” has applications both לצד הטוב and לצד הרע. It is not good to compromise on מילי דשמיא.

    Compromise for compromise’s sake is not laudable. Compromise for the purpose of being מרבה שלום is good, as long as the שלום in question is רצון השם.

    in reply to: shalom bayis problems #1956617
    catch yourself
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    @Pashut08701

    Great idea

    maybe we’ll have mango sorbet in fancy plastic bowls as a side to this week’s schnitzel

    in reply to: shalom bayis problems #1956562
    catch yourself
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    For years we could not see eye to eye about grilled chicken versus schnitzel. After extensive (and expensive) therapy, we worked out a supper schedule in which we compromised. On alternate weeks, we have the schnitzel my wife prefers with the side of my choice, or my grilled chicken with the side of her choice.

    This worked reasonably well for years, but then one week we had a Bar Mitzvah on a grilled chicken night, which upset the balance. We are currently in late stage negotiations about how to recalibrate.

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