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Now even the New York Times agrees that the SALT deduction should be completely erased.
It’s a shame I can’t post the link here, but the article is in today’s editorial.
Well, there is still a burden of proof.
Even when the defendant is a conservative.
Congress is free to change the law; the Supreme Court is bound to apply it as written.April 23, 2021 8:43 am at 8:43 am in reply to: According to the Torah, was Chauvin Allowed to Kill Floyd? #1967402
1. Killing any person is murder.
2. The Torah prescribes a code of conduct for non-Jews. Whether the non-Jews choose to follow the Halacha or not is irrelevant. The question in the OP was what the Halacha says about this case, which is an interesting question.
Even if you witness a murder you may not kill the perpetrator, even though moments before he was a rodef.
As others pointed out, even in the case of a rodef, if יכול להצילו באחד מאיבריו and you killed him, you’re the murderer.
He’s right, there is not consensus among the members of the commission that there is One G-d. Even people who serve Avoda Zara may serve only one god, but I would never want to join them in a “universal prayer.” This has nothing to Achduso Yisborach.
“residents of your state can’t pay higher Federal Taxes than residents of my state. The Federal tax rates are uniform across the country.”
You’re smarter than you pretend to be with this argument. Obviously, Federal tax rates are nominally uniform across the country. However, people who pay SALT and deduct accordingly from their Federal taxes, practically speaking, pay a lower rate than similar taxpayers in other states. This is a Federal subsidy to your state, paid for (in part) by mine.
“Loads of residents of my state don’t itemize or aren’t affected by the 10K cap on state tax deductions.”
Your initial complaint belies this argument.
The people who pay most of the taxes most likely do itemize, and presumably more people itemized when there was no cap on the SALT deduction.
Here’s the bottom line: With no cap on the SALT deduction, people who pay SALT don’t really pay SALT, they simply shift money from the Federal government to their state. With a cap, this is still true, albeit to a lesser degree. This means that of two people in identical financial positions, the one in Texas pays a higher amount in taxes to the Federal government than does the one in California. This may not show in an analysis of “tax dollars sent to Washington” versus “money received back,” but it is effectively a Federal subsidy to California, paid for by the people of Texas.
If California wants to offer high pensions to its employees and expensive services to its residents, that’s fine with me. The people of California can do whatever they want. The people in my state have chosen not to pay for these things, which is our prerogative. If we don’t pay to have these things here, why should we pay to have them in California?
To the OP:
Let’s replace “שלוחו של אדם כמותו” with another Halacha to crystalize the question.
Why can’t we just take it for granted that the time to light candles on Erev Shabbos is 5:08 without the “mechanics” behind it?
Obviously, you need to understand why the time to light on a particular Friday is 5:08 in order to apply that knowledge to a different week.
The same idea is true of all other Halachos.
Your personal wealth does not interest me in the slightest, and I find your penchant for flaunting it distasteful, to say the least.
It is also irrelevant to the current conversation.
The fact that your state “sends more dollars to Washington in taxes than it receives back” is equally irrelevant.
Residents of your state and locality pay lower Federal taxes than do residents of my state and locality. This deduction subsidizes state expenditures which are paid for by state and local taxes, and disproportionally burdens my state for the Federal budget.
In other words, the SALT deduction enables you to pay for things with my money. Whether you personally benefit directly from these expenditures or not has no bearing on this fact.
I agree that too many loopholes exist in the tax code.
This is stupid.
Neither “liberalism” nor “conservatism” aligns perfectly with the Torah.
It’s very easy for both liberals and conservatives to “prove” that theirs is the Torah way, and the others are against the Ratzon Hashem.
I have no problem with people arguing about liberalism vs. conservatism. Just let’s please not pretend that a debate about US ideology somehow involves the Torah.
“The list goes on, especially as I am about to file taxes and am limited to a $10,000 deduction for state and local taxes, a direct Republican/Trump attack on all of us who live in blue states”
People who live in blue states choose to pay for things that people who live in red states choose to do without. There is no reason that people who live in red states should subsidize the choices of people who live in blue states. This is part of the beauty of the federal system.
Real fairness would be to have absolutely no SALT deduction at all. Federal income tax should be completely unrelated to state and local taxes.
Why am I, a lower-middle-class Rebbe who struggles to make ends meet, subsidizing the luxuries of people like CTL?
Many years ago, “Yankel”, a guy in the Yeshiva I learned in (in Eretz Yisrael) got engaged shortly after Shavuos. I went back to the States for the summer.
That Elul, I bumped into Yankel. After wishing him a hartzige Mazel Tov, we shmoozed about where he was living, etc.
After a five minute conversation, I continued on my way and met “Shmuly”.
He says, “Such a shame about Yankel!”
Turns out, they didn’t even make it through Sheva Berachos…
I don’t have a good explanation for that.
Maybe מוטב שיהו שוגגין?
My statement was that “it should also be noted that according to שלחן ערוך, you may not be able to daven later if you missed the zman במזיד.” [I assume this is the part of my post you refer to.]
Your response: “catch yourself, what you sayng is incorrect according to the interpretation of the O’CH 89 MB s’k 6.”
I’ll readily acknowledge that I misattributed the reference. The correct reference should be to the very Mishna Berura that you notated.
The Mishna Berura there says that if a person missed zman Tefila במזיד, it’s best for him to Daven בתורת נדבה (with a תנאי to cover the possible חיוב), since it is possible that he is no longer able to Daven the required Tefila.
This discussion is specifically about a person who missed zman Tefila במזיד and now wants to Daven before חצות. Please note that if he did not Daven before חצות he will not be allowed to Daven Mincha twice.
Also noteworthy is the fact that the Mishna Berura does not agree that a person who missed the zman can still Daven Shacharis during the half hour after Chatzos. B’dieved, he says that if you did, you should not Daven Mincha twice.
In a published Teshuva about your question, Rav Moshe Feinstein writes that it is not our responsibility to understand the actions of Gedolim, but that we must follow Shulchan Aruch.
I’ve never heard that story about Rav Moshe before. If it’s true, the quote proves that while extraterrestrial life is unlikely to exist, there is nothing in the Torah that precludes the possibility that it does.
Your blatant disregard for Halacha is shocking. The Gemara and the Halacha are both crystal clear that you ***must*** daven before סוף זמן תפלה. Davening after the זמן is בדיעבד. The fact that if a person did not do so, he may still be able to salvage some aspect of תפלה does not change this basic requirement (it should also be noted that according to שלחן ערוך, you may not be able to daven later if you missed the zman במזיד).
Additionally, you dismiss the difference as if it were negligible, and you have the temerity to ascribe your mistake to the Gemara. What concept do you have of the difference between שכר תפלה בזמנה and שכר תפלה?
I’m very happy for you to profit from my saving money. That’s how capitalism works.
I don’t like that Spirit has the lowest paid employees in the industry (if they in fact do, which I have not bothered to investigate), but that’s not my fight. I’m all for people getting as much money as they can, and if Spirit is forced to raise prices to retain their workforce, that will be too bad on me.
I never contended that Spirit is a charitable organization, or that they should be honored at the next Agudah dinner. I was merely pointing out that their business model (which is obviously motivated purely by profit) is beneficial to many Jewish people (this was a very thinly veiled reference to the Gemara in the beginning of Maseches Avoda Zara about the other nations claiming reward for activities that benefited Klal Yisrael).
The [undeserved] relentless bad press to which YWN subjects Spirit surely does not go unnoticed. While you may be right that a YWN-based boycott wouldn’t kill Spirit, all of these articles and comments probably result in Spirit having a more jaded attitude towards people like me. In the end, your boycott will make my trips more expensive and less enjoyable.
You can joke around all you want about their extra fees, but I’m the one who’s laughing on the way to the bank.
On my flight yesterday there were over a dozen obviously Frum families, altogether probably more than fifty people. I didn’t notice any of them (or anyone else) who was not in compliance with the mask rules.
Nobody was kicked off the flight, and we got home pretty much on time.
The flight cost me $17 per passenger, plus $2 for a coffee [in-flight] for me (free refills) and $3 for a drink for each person (purchased after security). We also paid for four checked bags ($41 each, which is higher than it used to be).
Total cost: $286 one way, or $572 round trip, for 6 passengers.
If you follow the rules, you have no problem and you get to take advantage of low prices.
I really missed the כאלה אידין last year.
Until Parashas Pinchas, then we got a whole week’s worth in one shot 🙂
Unfortunately, this year I’m with a very serious crowd. While leining on the first day of Yom Tov, I paused for the choir and got a stony silence.
@Yserbius – Halacha is not woke.
If someone says, “As an עם הארץ, I do not feel I should have an opinion…” that’s one thing.
Do you think that only potatoes can have an opinion on whether it should be muttar to use peelers on Yom Tov?
Why shouldn’t a man have an opinion on a Halachic question that is practically relevant only to women?
Should your Rav (who is a man) be precluded from ruling on Niddah shaylos?
Well, it’s hard to disagree with this particular assertion by her legal team.
Fly what you like. Just don’t disturb my ability to do the same, that’s all I ask.
I’ve never had a problem with anyone from Spirit.
I personally have never flown Frontier. From what I hear, it’s a similar experience to Spirit. The complaint I’ve heard about it is that, being a smaller airline, it has fewer flights on each route, so if something goes wrong you might be out of luck. If your flight is canceled (due to weather or whatever), you might rescheduled for several days later. A friend of mine had to purchase last minute tickets on another airline to get to his sibling’s wedding because of this.
Granted, this was a while ago, so the situation might have changed by now.
I almost exclusively buy tickets at the airport. You can typically (though not always) save about $15 per ticket ($30/round trip) by doing so.
You can bring empty water bottles through security, and fill them at water stations in the terminal. and you can save money on drinks for the flight as well. If desired, bring some iced tea powder.
Mine was one of the families that were able to take an otherwise impossible vacation this past summer thanks to Spirit’s low fares.
So fly Frontier
Or either United or JetBlue if you want something more reliable
I have no vested interest in Spirit or any other airline, and I know that they don’t always have the cheapest fares. This does not detract from my basic point that Spirit is often by far the cheapest option, even including all the extra fees. Attacking Spirit hurts people like me, who actually save a lot of money by flying with them.
The myth is the idea that Spirit’s added fees bring the cost of flying with them close to that of other airlines.
Spirit doesn’t fly to (or from) JFK. NY area airports are LGA and EWR. If you want to go to Lakewood, you can also try PHI and ACY.
FLL-EWR on Spirit as of a few nights ago was $17 (just over half of what you thought).
A bottle of water in-flight costs $3, not $10
A carry on is not the same as a personal item. Most people traveling with a whole family usually check their luggage either way, so the carry on fee is mostly irrelevant. Personal items are free, in addition to your bag of food and any drinks you choose to buy after passing security. But let’s say I pay the $30 (or however much it is; I don’t actually know) for the carry on. Now I’m at $50.
My return flight was the same price, so let’s call it $100 for the round trip.
I checked all three airlines you recommended for the dates and airports of my flights. The cheapest of them was AA for $207 for the one round trip ticket, or more than double what I paid on Spirit including the drink and the carry on.
Delta and JetBlue were both considerably more expensive.
Incidentally, for any flights booked after the end of February 2021 and scheduled in July 2021 or later, JetBlue will be charging for carry on bags.
I noticed this after closing the Delta and AA tabs, so I didn’t check with them. But I wouldn’t be surprised if they follow suit soon enough. It’s the same as charging for checked bags. Everyone screamed when Spirit started with it, but I think Southwest is the last airline that still doesn’t charge (although I may be wrong about that).
In any case, for a family of 10 ticketed passengers, on Spirit you’re paying a total of under $800 round trip including checked bags and drinks, assuming that you don’t pay for carry on bags (fair assumption, since most people don’t).
And these fares are readily available. It’s not like something you hear about that other people always do, but you can’t get.
No other major airline comes even close.
This Mezuza vort is. like so much else, something that sounds good in a speech but doesn’t really hold water.
That’s not what a compromise is.
We are careful to fulfill both shitos with Mezuza, like in so many other areas of Halacha.
Of course compromise is good, in מילי דעלמא. Like all Midos, “easygoing” has applications both לצד הטוב and לצד הרע. It is not good to compromise on מילי דשמיא.
Compromise for compromise’s sake is not laudable. Compromise for the purpose of being מרבה שלום is good, as long as the שלום in question is רצון השם.
maybe we’ll have mango sorbet in fancy plastic bowls as a side to this week’s schnitzel
For years we could not see eye to eye about grilled chicken versus schnitzel. After extensive (and expensive) therapy, we worked out a supper schedule in which we compromised. On alternate weeks, we have the schnitzel my wife prefers with the side of my choice, or my grilled chicken with the side of her choice.
This worked reasonably well for years, but then one week we had a Bar Mitzvah on a grilled chicken night, which upset the balance. We are currently in late stage negotiations about how to recalibrate.
Why not list all the features of the new law?
How much money is in there to bail out cities like San Francisco from mismanagement that predated the pandemic? How much money is in there to provide special treatment to unions and other Democrat special-interest groups? How much money is in there to provide special perks to government employees? How much of the nearly $2T in this emergency spending measure is actually scheduled to be spent this year?
70% of the American people supposedly support this legislation, including a clear majority of voters registered to both parties. Yet the Republicans in Congress unanimously opposed it. Perhaps the truth is that a lot more of the American people oppose the real details of this law. I wonder exactly how the poll questions were phrased.
To be fair, you can’t consider Charliehall (or anyone else) a hypocrite unless he’s on record saying, as Cuomo did, that he believes Dr. Ford.
The truth is that it’s right to reserve judgment for both Kavanaugh and Cuomo until they each enjoy due process.
The fact that Cuomo is responsible for thousands of deaths does not mean that he is also therefore guilty of whatever someone might allege.
I don’t want to give any information that can be used to identify me.
I am not the most Yeshivishe guy in the world, but I am what nearly all people would consider Yeshivhish. I learned in highly regarded mainstream Yeshivos, and then in BMG for several years before moving to an out of town Lakewood Kollel. After a good number of years in the Kollel, I got a position as a Rebbe in a local frum school, where I’ve been for around a decade.
The Rav in question is an alumnus of some of the most prominent Yeshivos in America and Eretz Yisrael, and is extremely frum. He is not Rav Shlomo Miller, but he may one day occupy that position among American Poskim.
I understand if you don’t want to believe me, since it’s an anonymous forum. Take it or leave it, this is the truth.
Have you ever had a real conversation with someone “on the other side of the aisle?”
My Rav is a well known and highly regarded Talmid Chacham and Posek. He is also a full-fledged liberal Democrat. I doubt he has ever voted Republican. He is not alone.
Are you suggesting that such people are not Orthodox Jews?
I was hospitalized with Covid-19 for a week in the end of March, 2020. While not the worst case, mine was pretty serious, and included pneumonia. My treatment included both HCQ and Remdesivir (both were first administered in the hospital). BH, I fully recovered within two months.
Does this prove anything about the effectiveness of either one of these medicines (or their combination) in treating Covid-19?
Anecdotal evidence is absolutely useless in establishing the efficacy of a specific treatment.
Why not, indeed.
It was no less coherent than some other posts…
It’s just over four weeks since then, so I think it’s a bit soon to say that the four year thing wasn’t an exaggeration.
Somehow, people who believe this kind of garbage never imagine that the “experts” who promote the conspiracy theories have their own vested interests.
No need to apologize. Michael Che is a senior writer and one of the leading performers on SNL. He is currently in the headlines (including the YWM home page) because of an outrageously anti-Semitic “joke” that he used this week in Weekend Updates.
I have no problem laughing at jokes whose premise is a political ideology with which I disagree. I just have never found Che’s stuff to be any good. I find it contrived, unoriginal, and without class. Nevertheless, there must be some people who think he’s funny, or he wouldn’t have his job.
I brought him up in this conversation as an illustration that someone can be an “offensive bigot” and still be talented. It’s easier to see this when the offensive bigot is on your side.
In response to CTL, GH, et al
Rush Limbaugh was bombastic, provocative, and partisan to the extreme.
Michael Che is bombastic, provocative, and partisan to the extreme.
The difference is that Rush was unquestionably one of the most talented political entertainers of his time, and Michael Che is… Michael Che.
I don’t agree with either of their viewpoints, and I think there is a lot of merit to the argument that Rush was one of the catalysts of the hyper-partisanship which currently holds our country hostage. This does not detract from Rush’s talent level (which was enormous), and the fact that someone might agree with Che does not mean that he has any talent (he’s pathetic).
Fair point, I’m just reporting what he says. We can debate the merit of the vort, but I just loved the Gematria part of it.
Another really good one is from the Ba’al HaTurim in this week’s Parasha [Terumah]
ושכנתי = ושכן ת”י, referring to the 410 years of the first Beis HaMikdash
ושכנתי = ושני ת”כ, referring to the 420 years of the second Beis HaMikdash
My favorite is one I saw in Ta’amei Haminhagim
He asks, how do you know that a Gematria is allowed to be off by 1?
A: It’s an explicit Pasuk:
אפרים ומנשה כראובן ושמעון יהיו לי
אפרים ומנשה = 732
ראובן ושמעון = 731
We’ve had this discussion numerous times in various threads in the CR.
Although it may not be what you learned in Yeshiva, the mainstream opinion of Rishonim and Gedolei Acharonim is that Medrashim and Agadeta Gemaros are not Torah M’Sinai and we are not required to accept them as being literally true.February 2, 2021 8:55 am at 8:55 am in reply to: Two Frum Community Problems Solved with One Approach #1944605
This is about as intelligent a suggestion as, “Pants, meet Skirt.”February 1, 2021 2:40 pm at 2:40 pm in reply to: why is there such a cover up about these problems? #1944330
Without doubt, these are some of the most pressing issues to be discussed in the CR.
I learned years ago which brands of tissue are problematic, and which are not.
Generally speaking, the higher quality tissue companies are not a problem. These are also usually more expensive, but keep in mind that it’s הוצאת שבת, so the cost is not an issue.
In the out of town community where I live, our schools have been open this entire school year, albeit with sporadic closings of specific classes.
We have implemented a containment protocol which includes all staff and students wearing masks except when eating or during recess. Each class has maintained its own bubble, with no mixing of classes allowed during lunch, recess, or any other time.
School does not seem to be a major source of spread, judging by who did and didn’t get the virus within each class.
Our Shuls (with varying degrees of strictness) still maintain social distancing and mask wearing policies, and some even still require registration for Minyanim. Our stores (both the Jewish-owned ones and the non-Jewish-owned ones) still require mask wearing and social distancing.
I was in the NY/NJ area several times recently, and in most places it’s as if there is no virus. This has to be the bigger issue than opening the schools. Indeed, it would seem to make the question of opening schools a joke. Why not open the schools if everything else (restaurants, shuls, weddings, shopping, etc) is business as usual?
The Gedolei Eretz Yisrael that you referenced were discussing whether to open school in context of a strict lockdown in the rest of society.
I don’t know why, but it seems like my last post is lost somewhere in Mod-land.
Anyway, DY, unless I misunderstood your last post, this whole thread has been based on the misconception that the two sides were arguing over the money, when in fact it’s the Chosson’s side offering to pay half (more than its share of the wedding) and the Kallah’s side asserting that it should pay two thirds (like the rest of the wedding).
This is no argument, and I’m sure it can be resolved in a friendly manner. The whole thread (including some of your posts) seems rather misleading, and not up to your usual standard.
“Yaakov only opposed ShImon and Levi’s action because it almost got them in trouble with local populous, he didn’t object to them in principle.”
Well, that’s kind of the point. The fact that they were Halachically correct in their treatment of Shechem did not override the practical consideration of not offending the locals.
Chushim is a different situation because Eisav was also not a local, and the Cana’anim probably viewed it as an internal feud among a foreign family. In any case, if he was actually a Cheresh (as it seems from Chazal), he wouldn’t have been responsible for his actions, so a reprimand or criticism would have been out of place.
I haven’t seen it “inside” in quite a while, but I don’t remember a commendation; what’s the source for that?
Well, I guess by now DJT has proven that he was correct in at least one of his campaign assertions: “I could kill someone in broad daylight on Fifth Avenue and my supporters would continue to support me.”
I don’t know that impeachment would be the right thing for the country, and in any case, Pelosi is obviously not serious about it or she would have had the House back in session yesterday, but I don’t think there is any question that what the President did last week is impeachable.
DJT is responsible, at least indirectly, for five deaths and an assault on US property, not to mention the direct assault on the very underpinnings of American Government. If he had a conscience, he would resign immediately. But, then, if he had a conscience, we would not be in this situation.
Tell whichever side you can that for a couple of hundred extra bucks (a drop in the bucket of wedding expenses), they can earn the appreciation of their son- or daughter-in-law by paying the extra expense. The trick is, they have to do it B’sever Panim Yafos.
Think about all the extra time they will get to spend with the grandchildren, IYH…
I’m not sure that Chushim was correct in what he did. It certainly was not the approach of the Shevatim themselves.
Yaakov made it pretty clear that Shimon and Leivi were wrong.
You can be humorous and friendly at the same time.
Try something like, “as dangerous as crawling across the African Savannah in a sheep costume.”
Here’s a good rule of thumb: Try replacing the subject of the joke with your own group. If you would find the “joke” offensive, don’t use it on anyone else, either.
Example: “About as safe as wearing a “Blue Lives Matter” t-shirt to a ‘mostly peaceful protest’ about the death of George Floyd.”
I love Country Yossi, but he was wrong in The Nebach of the Shteeble.
Yaakov Avinu’s “preparation for war” was to ensure that at least one camp would be able to escape and survive. This despite the fact that he was eminently capable of fighting back (as he demonstrated in the aftermath of Shechem).
I know it was meant as a lighthearted attempt at humor, but I still feel I must protest.
As a proud “Litvak”, I take umbrage at the insinuation that I would attack someone who comes into my Shul waving a yellow flag and singing “Yechi…”
What I (and, I think, just about everyone else who Davens at the same Shul) would do is either ignore the guy completely, or give him a friendly greeting and offer him a drink or something (depending on what else I was doing at the time).
I certainly would not take any action against the unfortunate fellow.