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I always thought Triangle was funny in a dark humor sort of way (they make fire extinguishers…).
I have no interest in entering the debate on guns, the second amendment, et al.
I was just wondering:
Why is it legal for a store unilaterally to impose age restrictions on purchases of certain items? Isn’t this discrimination on the basis of age?
Thanks, I stand corrected.
I searched with the search tool at the top of the page; I didn’t realize that YWN and CR have separate search tools.
Also, I couldn’t find a single thread or comment on YWN or in the CR or elsewhere that people expressed taking offense at any of the Lose4Autism ads over the years.
I’m not saying that nobody was offended (which I can’t possibly know; in any case, I would be surprised if NOBODY was offended), just that I couldn’t find a single comment about it.
(note from 79; if you search “lose4autism” in coffeeroom you’ll find this https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/attn-lab#post-1136883 “
This is getting to be absurd. I didn’t say that because I’m not offended it isn’t offensive. I only mentioned that I fit the demographic of the potentially offended. You certainly are entitled to an opinion no less than I am. I was simply stating my opinion, which is that I don’t consider it offensive.
I certainly don’t think it was intended to offend anyone, and I also think that it is within the parameters of benign humor. Is it possible for someone to see it in such a way as to find it offensive? Sure. Does that mean they should not have published it? I don’t think so, but that’s just my opinion.
I think that there are many people who are hypersensitive and take offense at the drop of a hat. I also think that there are many people who feign being offended because of the power it gives them to control how others speak, and I find this very offensive.
Obviously not. That’s a perfect straw man argument. The point I was making is that it is not practical, nor even required, to concern yourself with every possible way that a statement can be misconstrued so as to be insulting to someone or other. The way people feel always matters; this does not give free rein to the Serial Offended Class to silence all forms of expression. I, for one, would feel constrained if I had to submit everything I say to the PC Police.
I think it was quite clear that the Eat4Oorah video was meant as a promotional tactic and nothing else, and [despite being rather ready to lose weight myself] I don’t consider it offensive in any way. Certainly, it was much less so than the LoseForAutism video of which it was a spoof, and I don’t remember the protests over that one. This leads me to the conclusion that the facade of being offended here is just a pretense to put down a successful organization.
Of course, I agree that it is important not to say or do anything, or even use language, which could reasonably be expected to offend. One good example of this (which has already been litigated extensively here in the CR) is your use of the word “retarded”.
Haters gonna hate.
It’s not worth the time to go through all the [frivolous] complaints against Oorah. The only real complaint is that people are jealous of their success, and so clothe their own inadequacies in the טלית שכולה תכלת of “Chillul Hashem.”
My personal connection with Oorah (I have never been paid by them for anything, but I have volunteered for them on occasion) has allowed me to gain some intimate knowledge of how they work. I believe that any objective observer would be satisfied that they are honest, fiscally responsible, and stay true to the guidance of their Rabbinical leadership. What more can you ask of an organization?
I have long said that the Gemara which says כולם באבק לשון הרע is to be understood at face value – no matter what you say, somebody, somewhere, is insulted.February 19, 2018 4:47 pm at 4:47 pm in reply to: Is the fact that 40% of the public school is Jewish any less of a tragedy #1472245
The two are totally unrelated.
Of course, it is an unspeakable tragedy that so many of our brothers and sisters do not learn about their true mission in life.
This does not, in any way, mitigate the horror of the shooting.February 16, 2018 11:36 am at 11:36 am in reply to: Kallah Taking Chosson’s Last Name Upon Marriage- Jewish or Gentile? #1470630
Rav Elyashiv’s father took his wife’s surname (Elyashiv was the surname of the Leshem, Rav Elyashiv’s maternal grandfather).
Well, for one thing, seeing as we are all either definitely or presumed טמא it would be impossible to fulfill this מצוה in the current situation.
My Rav told me that the definition of שוק with regard to the rule of האוכל בשוק וכו is “a place that is not designated for eating,” so, for example, there is nothing wrong with eating in the food court of a mall, or at the sidewalk tables outside a cafe.
One thousand years from now, people will look back at the era of professional sports with the same puzzlement that we have for idolatry and paganism.
Nevertheless, as someone who was born and grew up in the NY area, I understand how professional sports has a certain attraction to it, and I understand how people get caught up in it.
All in all, there are things which are much worse going on in our community. I’d much rather people be sports fans than, say, racist or dishonest, especially if they are מתעטף בטלית שכולה תכלת and claim that what they are doing is רצון השם…
What you describe in your most recent post is in fact the presence of evidence to the contrary.
If I claim that there is gravity, but unsupported objects fail to get pulled to the Earth, this is not merely the absence of evidence sustaining my claim; it is the presence of conclusive evidence that my claim is incorrect.
In the words of חז”ל,
“לא ראינו אונה ראיה”
However, absence of evidence is a useful tool when deliberately obfuscating an issue. It is especially so when coupled with oversimplification and absurd exaggeration.
Wow, Rockaway Resident, you seem to be really adversely affected by the weather. I hope that this is not your normal temperament…
Maybe you should consider moving somewhere with a warmer climate.
The Ramban discusses this issue in this week’s Parasha. He says that the Torah only reports those Nisim which were predicted prior to the fact by a Navi.
I’m sorry to hear that you had to go through that. I have a close friend who endured something similar. His first marriage lasted less than three months.
However, in his case (and perhaps in yours as well) the culprit was not the XX chromosomal condition, but a bad case of OCD (she hid it from him the whole time, and went off medication to try to conceive), coupled with an obscene form of premeditated abuse of trust [this last may well have been genetic – it is rather similar to what Lavan did…].
Your mother’s rather healthy training of her child(ren) seems to be evidence that not all ailments suffered by XX carriers are related to that particular chromosome.
In any case, I am happy that you were able to move on from a toxic situation.
My apologies. I somehow missed your sarcasm.
Joseph, I feel for you. It must be difficult to be so righteously indignant about something that you can not define, or even properly identify.
I was enjoying this thread until you trotted out the tired old diatribe about “what they call Jewish music today.”
I, for one, have no patience for the highbrows who seem to think that only their taste in music matters.
It’s no coincidence that Ashkenazi music sounds so similar to Eastern European music, while Sefardic music sounds so similar to Arabic music. The fact that you don’t enjoy contemporary singers or find their songs inspiring doesn’t mean that it’s any less Jewish than Regesh, Carlebach, Rabbi’s Sons, or even Yossel Rosenblatt. You can include every Chassidishe nigun from the Baal Shem Tov’s Nigun straight through Modzitz and next year’s Simchas Beis Hashoeiva from Belz in this list. (Honorable mention goes to the Chassidim, who managed to produce the Emperor’s New Album to match his clothes, by saying that “the Rebbe was Mikadeish the Nigun.”)
None of that was inherently “Jewish music” either, and I’m sure that in each generation, the old fuddy duddys complained about “what they call Jewish music today.”
In response to Joseph, nearly all Jewish music for the past ten years, and a lot of the earlier stuff, is available for digital download, and on subscription music apps.
Now back to our regular feature program…
Nobody is perfect, but the Y chromosome seems to give its carrier a more relaxed (dare I say, realistic) attitude about the failings of those around him.
In response to your survey, the answer is, much less often than my wife.
Also, I never thought I would agree to wholeheartedly with Joseph, but I think he is right. One of the side affects of having a Y chromosome is apparently to prevent a carrier from suffering the side affects of having an X chromosome.
The other side of the population, on the other hand, have a double dose…December 19, 2017 1:53 pm at 1:53 pm in reply to: Explaining to girls that only boys light the Chanukah Menorah #1430171
It shouldn’t be explained. The girls should light, שאף הן היו באותו הנס. I encourage my (above Bas Mitzvah age) daughter to light (but I don’t force her to). [My younger daughters need no encouragement.]
My wife does not light, mostly because her mother doesn’t either. My father in law, who is a תלמיד חכם, explained this with the rule of אשתו כגופו. I don’t exactly understand the application of that concept here, but I went along with his פסק.December 5, 2017 11:41 am at 11:41 am in reply to: Where can Antartican Jews escape if there is an emergency? #1418860
They would have to go north.
This thread is a conspiracy to distract us from the conspiracy facts.
Just a theory.
With all due respect, there are hundreds of threads in the CR dedicated to nonsense.
Most of these far outdo the present thread in senselessness, though they can’t compete in prosaic beauty.
I asked Rav Shmuel Kamenetzky specifically about whether one who is not makpid on Chalav Yisrael should reconsider because of the stomach puncture issue, and he said no.
DY – Thank you. I respect your opinion as quite educated and levelheaded, so I consider your attention a compliment.
Nevertheless, I disagree with your corrections.
In Sefer Chazon Ish (although I can’t provide a Mareh Makom, as it’s been so long since I saw it), the same logic relied upon by Rav Moshe is presented. It is possible that the Ch’I didn’t want to rely on this Lma’aseh, which explains why he only allowed milk with the P’Ch, but he does use the Sevara.
Similarly, in constructing the Paris Eiruv, the Chazon Ish also did not rely on his own leniency. This interesting historical footnote notwithstanding, his Sevara is an important part of most municipal Eiruvin today.
Butter doesn’t need supervision because we know by process of elimination that it must be kosher milk; Chalav Stam is an extension of the same principle.
I don’t remember Rav Moshe saying to Kasher Keilim – Can you provide a reference?
One could say by the same token, Gadolhadorah, that it’s easier to criticize others for focusing on Halachic issues instead of on introspection, than it is to be introspective yourself.
Not that I disagree with you; people like me should certainly spend more time on introspection than we do.
However, I do not agree with your attempt to slam the door on this discussion, and I emphatically disagree with your tactic. There is no reason for personal attacks here.
Actually, this is a perfectly valid debate about an important Halachic issue. The fact that the practical aspect of this Halacha relates more to women than to men is no reason for men not to discuss it and invest great energy in it. I doubt you would have made the same observation about a discussion of the Halachos of lighting candles on Friday night.
All of these issues were litigated multiple times over the years, most recently about ten years ago. I heard from a source very close to Rav Belsky that when Rav Belsky went to Rav Elyashiv’s house to discuss the questions about Sheitlach, Rav Elyashiv acknowledged that he was not provided with compelling evidence to support an Issur, and that according to Rav Belsky’s data it would be Muttar. No change in the Metzius is alleged in the recent Kol Koreh.
If I remember correctly, Rav Belsky was joined in allowing Indian Sheitlach by Rav Shmuel Kamenetzky, Rav Dovid Feinstein, Rav Dovid Cohen, Rav Feivel Cohen, and the vast majority of Poskim in America at the time. Unlike the Anisakis worm and Copepod issues (which were going on at around the same time), there was broad consensus on this, at least on this side of the Atlantic.
Rav Moshe’s Psak (based on the straight reading of most of his Teshuvos on the issue, as well as the testimony and practice of his children and many of his leading Talmidim) was that “Chalav HaCompanies” is Muttar mei’ikar hadin.
There are only two types of milk: Chalav Yisrael which is Muttar, and Chalav Akum which is Assur. There is no debate about this. The point Rav Moshe made (which, for the record, is echoed by the Chazon Ish) was that based on the Umdena created by government regulations, Chalav HaCompanies qualifies as the Chalav Yisrael mentioned in Shulchan Aruch, just as butter does not need supervision.
Nevertheless, he recommended that Baal Nefesh Yachmir. Most Poskim seem to agree that according to this Shita, it would not assur keilim. The Poskim who disagreed with Rav Moshe and held that Chalav HaCompanies is Chalav Akum hold that it is regular non-Kosher food, it assurs keilim, etc.
It seems that the OP could only have held like Rav Moshe, since otherwise there is not really any room to maneuver. In any case, the entire concept of “Shaas Hadchak,” and related issues (hefsed meruba, et at) is about the financial cost of maintaining higher than the minimum Halachic standard, even where such higher standards are universally accepted, and even (sometimes, specifically) when the food will be given to guests.
As a general point, the basic ground rule of Halacha, as established in Teshuvos HaRama, is that any Kula accepted in extenuating circumstances (Shaas hadchak, hefsed meruba, tzorech Shabbos/Yom Tov, etc.) must in fact be the Halachic standard, even if, under normal circumstances, we do not rely on it. In other words, no lenient opinion which is decidedly against the Halacha can be relied upon in any case. So those Poskim who allow Chalav Stam (even if only in Shaas Hadchak) by definition hold that it is Muttar mei’ikar hadin.
Also, the issue at hand was not one of insulting the host (they apparently have no problem eating together despite the different standards that they maintain), but one of cost. The guest wishes to avoid causing his host to spend more than he has to, and wants to know if in such a situation he may eat CS, which is certainly a Shaila for one’s personal Rav.November 3, 2017 3:09 pm at 3:09 pm in reply to: Kiddush Hashem, Chillul Hashem, Anti-Semitism, and Self Awareness #1395442
1. Well, the Gemara does say that impressing people with your conduct is the definition of a Kiddush Hashem. Why wouldn’t the same concept apply for some other religion? I think it is fair to ask what the Torah expects us to think of the righteous conduct of others. How, for example, are we to think of the self-sacrifice of those Polish and other Eastern European non-Jews who risked their own lives to save those of our grandparents? If their righteousness is to be attributed to “humanity”, then why is ours assumed to be attributed to the Torah?
So I agree that your first point is valid, and that the Gemara needs further review.
2. To be honest, until last night I never understood why so many people get so angry when someone puts on blackface. After your comment, I did some rudimentary research, and found that it has quite a history, and is an important part of the racism practiced against blacks in this country. In other words, it isn’t just a costume, it has a lot of baggage.
The parallel would be if the kids had dressed as Jews who had murdered little non-Jews and used their blood in the production of Matza (although, I’m not sure how a costume could convey all that).
Please tell me which parts are right, and which are wrong. I am very happy to acknowledge when I am mistaken, but I can’t have a conversation that doesn’t address specific points.
In any case, I agree absolutely with lesschumras. Your assumption that a certain group of people will bring crime is terribly racist. I would much rather live among black professionals than among white trash. I don’t assume, however, that someone black must be a professional, or that someone white must be trash. In reality, I don’t care about my neighbor’s skin color, but about his character.
What’s more, you actually got precisely the wrong message from my original post. I wrote that , “When a town deliberately changes zoning laws and building codes so that Jews will not be able to move in, that is anti-Semitism. ”
I always understood that Mishna either to mean that “Seiser” and “Galui” are relative terms, or that a person can hide behind some anonymity even as he is easily identified as an Orthodox Jew. Nevertheless, I hope to look around a bit to see if there is more out there.
Baltimore is a wonderful community, but it unfortunately is not immune to the addiction epidemic which has been sweeping our larger community worldwide.October 29, 2017 8:54 am at 8:54 am in reply to: Is wife halachically required to take a Get on unfavorable terms? #1391168
Speak to an impartial Rabbi who is experienced in the area of Jewish marital and divorce law. Questions of this nature are absolutely commonplace, and highly specific. Due to the many variables, no two cases are the same. Pay no attention to any of the general guidelines or anecdotes which may be put forward in this forum; they are notoriously easy to take out of context.
TLIK, you paint with far too broad a brush.
Also, your reference to “today’s generation” is surprising, since, as a rule, today’s Mechanchim are very warm and encouraging (If anything, the culture of prizes and rewards has gone too far, but that’s another discussion). In general, today’s Mechanchim are trained to minimize punitive measures, and, when they are necessary, to implement them in a way which does not jeopardize their relationship with their students.
Joseph, I agree that the precise point at which it would be wrong to evict a guest from your seat in Shul is open to debate. Your opinion that this is at ברוך שאמר is certainly valid, although I disagree. In any case, I think this is a footnote to the main subject of this thread. You apparently agree with the basic premise that there is nothing inherently wrong with asking a guest to vacate your seat, provided that this is done in an appropriate manner and at a reasonable time, whatever definitions you would assign those terms.
I do not believe in forcing guests to “stand until Borchu.” Guests should be welcomed by whoever sees them, and guided to available seats as soon as they come to Shul. If this is not done for any reason, a guest should find an open seat and ask whether it is available.
In answer to your question, “If someone asks a guest to move in your Shul, who is responsible for finding him a new seat — especially if by time the regular guy finishes his coffee and arrives just before שׁוֹכֵן עַד there are no more other seats?”:
I think it is obvious that basic human decency requires that the member who evicted the guest should try to help find him a seat. Likewise, it is an entry level responsibility of ואהבת לריעך כמוך to help any guest in Shul find a seat, regardless of who forced him out of their seat.
Your implied derision of the “regular guy finish[ing] his coffee and arriv[ing] just before שוכן עד,” I think, is unnecessarily judgmental. The responsibility to make one’s co-congregants feel comfortable does not end with guests, or with helping to find seats. It certainly includes having a welcoming and accepting attitude.
I think Ubiquitin is absolutely correct here.
There is nothing wrong with asserting yourself, obviously in a proper way, and reclaiming your seat. Of course, the right thing is to try to help find available seats for guests (regardless of whether they took your seat).
In my opinion and [limited] experience, both as a regular and as a guest, this does not embarrass anybody. It is to be expected, and should not even be uncomfortable for the guest.
I do agree that at some point during Davening (in my mind, this point is Borchu), any latecomers relinquish their “rights” in this regard.
As a guest, I never assume a seat is available; I ask someone sitting nearby if the seat I want is open. Being a guest does not exempt you from common decency either. Unless you are completely new to the concept of Shul, you should realize that people have seats.
The place where I usually Daven is very popular, and it is very difficult to get a seat. If I come at a reasonable time to find that a guest has parked himself in my seat, and that I therefore don’t have one (which has happened a number of times), I don’t say anything, but I do think that the guest is wrong.
I once came early to shul, just to find that a guest (whom I knew was a family member of someone who sits near me) had “claimed” my seat with his Tallis bag!
For the record, Rav Shlomo Kluger directly applied the Halacha of Chezkas Karka to seats in Shul. He was asked regarding a Shul that had expanded its building, whether the members’ seats were to be awarded relative to the layout (next to the wall), or if they stayed in the exact location of the previous seat. He ruled that the Makom Kavua was the actual place of the seat because that was the land on which the member had a Chazaka, and not its proximity to the wall.September 19, 2017 4:31 pm at 4:31 pm in reply to: Why its important to show pictures of Married Couples #1367336
Inventing absurd Chumros that were not followed in previous generations by even the most scrupulous and pious Talmidei Chachamim is not the Derech HaTorah, it is a perversion of the Derech HaTorah.
בל תוסיף פן תגרעJuly 6, 2017 10:36 am at 10:36 am in reply to: Education Expenses should not be recognized as income regarding social services #1311773
Without entering the debate over school vouchers (one side of which you rather cogently represented above), I think there is an important point which must be made in response to your general approach here.
It sounds to me from your posts hat you have been rather successful financially, and I am very happy for you.
The fact is that there are many families where both parents are very hard working and which struggle financially. I personally am gainfully employed from about 7:40 a.m. until around 10:00 p.m., with only a couple of “breaks in the action,” during which time I play and do homework with my children. This is my schedule for most of the school year. During the summer, I have some more free time, but I do work. My wife works several hours a day during the school year, and all day during the summer.
We work no less than you do, and, I suspect, quite a bit more. We nevertheless find ourselves in a very difficult financial position because of the cost of living. This is no complaint; I am exceedingly grateful to HKBH for all that I have. It is merely a statement of fact in response to your post.
I think your rather intelligent and deliberate opinion would command more respect (at least in my own mind) if it were coupled with a bit of empathy.
Depends on how you define the problem with a “Goyish” song. If the question is simply one of content, it should be fine (like Sukkas Ganba”ch). If it’s a question of Kadusha, even Gadol Omeid Al Gabov wouldn’t help (similar to Kesivas Sefer Torah, et al).
So, probably a Machlokes between the Litvish and the Chassidim.
They got the money from taxes, which they have the right to collect. Having collected the money, they have the right to allocate it as they see fit.
Does the UK have something similar to the first amendment to the US constitution, which guarantees freedom of religion?
It against the Halacha to lie or bend the truth, even without monetary gain. It is against the Halacha to accept any form of monetary benefit to which you are not entitled.
I think MBDs תמחה את זכר עמלק should do nicely.
@ Akuperma –
1. True. Most Rebbeim recognize the supreme privilege of their vocation.
2. False. It isn’t about the money, and many people prefer to be מלמד תורה than to do anything else (as you yourself pointed out). There does, however, come a time for many where they are forced to change jobs for financial reasons (living gets more expensive as time goes on and families grow and get older). This is what the OP is talking about.
3. True, in the current model. I don’t know what the solution is, but I worry about the sustainability of the system as it now stands.
This has been a pet peeve of mine for years. Some of my neighbors in our “OOT” community seem to believe that certain products are better purchased from NY area stores. Friends, if you want there to be a frum clothing store, seforim store, etc., in your neighborhood, then you need to give them your business. This is the selfish reason; obviously, there are also issues of Halacha and Hashkafa, as pointed out by Joseph.
You apparently agree with the classification of the other Hashgachos I listed as Litvish. I can imagine my friends of German extraction protesting vehemently the inclusion of KAJ in said list. I acknowledge that the term Litvish is that context was a misnomer, intended to refer to Hashgachos that are “not Chassidish.”
I’m not here to debate the reputations of specific Hashgachos, a slippery slope landing in the cesspool of LH, MShR, and so on. In hindsight, it was probably wrong to name names in the first place, as Avak LH.
In my last post, I mistakenly referred to the first post on this page as the OP.
I was referring to post #1289359.
In all of this, I found the OP to be the most troubling post in the whole thread. The assertion that “a few cases where we’ve seen over the years” of corruption could completely discredit an entire segment of K’lal Yisrael for the issue of Kashrus is outrageous.
The premise that no similar incidents have occurred among Chassidishe Hashgachos is ignorance.
What of KAJ, Star-K, KCL, CRC, OU, Kof-K, and many more, all Litvishe Hashgachos of excellent repute?
What of the great number of local Va’adim, also Litvishe Hashgachos of top-notch quality?
You magnanimously concede that there are “some competent Litvishe Hashgachos,” but in the same breath, you dispose of them because of “a few” isolated incidents “over the years.”
I don’t חס ושלום believe the story. Nevertheless, למיחש מיבעי, and until a responsible, credible review is published which affirms that the quality of care provided by EN is on par, I would have to rely on good old Hatzalah in case of emergency, ר”ל.
ה’ ישמרנו מכל צרה וצוקה
I obviously can’t debate a Psak that has not been explained, but I think it’s important to make this point: People often use the term “Lashon Hara” as an umbrella term which encompasses all forms of forbidden speech, such as Ona’as Devarim, Motzi Shem Ra, Rechilus, Megaleh Sod, Malbin Pnei Chaveiro, et al. If the reasoning for the Psak was a technicality limited to Lashon Hara in its narrow sense (such as Apei Tlasa), then either the Shaila was presented incorrectly, or the Posek needs to do a better job of understanding Shailos. The question was not whether the particular post was Lashon Hara per se, but whether it was permitted to post.
In any case, to the extent that I am not being allowed to know either the identity of the Posek or the reason for the Psak, there is no reason for me to consider it authoritative, especially considering that it is at odds with my own understanding of the Halachos.
A new cycle of Chofetz Chaim Yomi starts today, so maybe this time I will figure it out…
Like you said, it certainly is not for those who are not qualified in Psak Halacha to disagree with those who are. Nevertheless, there is no reason to withhold the reasoning of the Psak that was issued. I, for one, would love to gain a better education.
My wife is an excellent driver, but she does not like to drive, so she usually prefers to be a passenger.
“Neurotypicals” – Brilliant.
Rav Shamshon Refael Hirsch on המבלי אין קברים במצרים לקחתנו למות במדבר notes that already at the banks of the Yam Suf, the Jewish sense of humor, in all its sarcastic glory, was a natural outlet for psychological stress, a role it would continue to play during the millennia of Galus that would follow later.
The only caveat, as pointed out above, is to make sure that those who hear you will not misunderstand and take offense.