Lilmod Ulelamaid

If there is no “toeles” (beneficial purpose), I believe it is. And it doesn’t sound like there was any toeles here. Even when there is “toeles” there are numerous conditions in order for it to be okay.

It sounds like maybe the whole house belongs to you and you are just selling the chometz in the house, so I guess that’s why you can be there.

But I always thought that when people sell their sefarim (technically the chometz in the sefarim), they are supposed to try to avoid using the Sefarim or something (although I never really understood what that meant – either they should be allowed to or not allowed to.) Basically, these halachos are confusing and I never really understood how any of this works, and there are probably lots of opinions and lots of different situations, so just ask your LOR and do what he says.

I’m very happy you asked him the main questions meanwhile and got the answers.

Just check what items in your house you are allowed to use if everything is being sold. I always thought that if you sell your house for Pesach you can’t enter it on Pesach, but I guess your Rav holds differently (or I’m wrong)

Thanks LB! Were you the one who came up with the idea of our having to tell the Mods our names just so you could send me MM? That was so nice of you!

j/k – I only told them my first name. I figured it’s in my email address anyhow so it didn’t hurt to tell them (or whoever gets the profile info).

I’m sure Ivanka will send to Chelsea since they are good friends.

I don’t know anything about LA, but in general there are many benefits to living out-of-town. However, I do not know if LA qualifies as out-of-town, so I don’t know if any of those particular benefits apply (although of course there may be other benefits).

I’m still waiting for my peanut-butter cup mishloach manos from the CR. I’m expecting it to arrive on Purim.

cchocker – I’m not sure this is the best place to ask that question. The conditions of Toeles would not be met in such a public and anonymous site so I don’t think it would be permitted for anyone to offer you negative information. If posters offer positive information, that would be helpful of course, but probably wouldn’t give you the full picture you want and need.

Nice! Other ideas are: not-Frum people, people who might not be getting from anyone else and bus drivers, etc.

I wouldn’t necessarily consider Aish to be a source, depending who the author of the particular article is.

But in any case, Joseph is the one who needs a source for his statements.

got it.

Golfer – that actually is how I meant it. (although I did mean for it to be funny as well as serious, so I’m glad you laughed, because that was the point!)

I have seen articles on this topic. Both about how people tend to be more depressed on or after holidays either because of loneliness or unmet expectations, as well as the difficulties people face having to get together with family on holidays. I don’t remember if they were talking about Jews or goyim (probably both), but I think it’s something that applies to all people.

I once met a Frum married lady who happened to be a therapist I think, who had just returned from visiting her family. She was talking about what an expensive trip it was – aside from the plane fare, there was also the cost of the therapy that was needed afterwards!

I realize now what you meant. I always assumed that it was counting the Thread Title. Which actually makes no sense, but since I just assumed that’s what it was counting, I didn’t think of it as “one extra” and I just assumed it was meant to be that way.

Joseph. Oh sorry, that’s just for the Coffee Room.

Meno – I think Holidays are the most common time for people to get depressed.

RY – I saw that afterwards and assumed you put it in after you wrote your post. I didn’t realize it was the other way around.

I was thinking that maybe it means an ayin hara?

iacisrmma – I know bliyos is not grease. I thought it was the grease they were selling and not the bliyos, but I guess I was wrong. That was just my assumption and I wasn’t sure about it (I think I made that clear; I hope so).

Thank you for the correction. I hadn’t thought that you could sell blius since it’s not a real thing. How can the goy take the blius from the pot? Or does it mean that he has permission to use the pot and thereby take the blius that is reabsorbed into the food being cooked? How can we let a goy use our pots?

TLIK – I think the op was a joke. Someone pointed out recently that any (or almost any) threads started by PBA are troll threads.

ZD: “The Chazon Ish died in 1953, While for many that might seen like a long time ago, It really isnt”

And therefore?

“Anyway we do biur chometz, and nullify anything left”

That’s only after you have done everything in your power to get rid of all chometz. L’maaseh, if you c”v find chametz on Pesach, you still have to burn it, even though it was nullified.

WTP – my understanding of the practice has always been that they are selling the chametz on the pots and NOT the pots themselves, since selling the pots would required tevila as you pointed out.

My understanding is that it’s a chumra since there is (hopefully) not a kezayis of chometz in your pots. M’ikar hadin, while one is not allowed to eat any amount of chametz on Pesach, you are allowed to have chametz in your possessions if it’s less than a certain amount. I used to think that amount was a k’zayis but most people I know seem to say that it has to be less than the size of a cheerio, so I think I was mistaken about the kezayis. In any case, you would not have chametz in the amount of acheerio on your pots either.

However, there are people who are makpid not to have ANY amount of chametz in their possessions on Pesach. (either because they are being machmir or because they are going by another opinion). Presumably, these are the people who are selling the chametz on their pots.

I don’t think it’s the b’liah they are selling – I think it’s any grease that may be left on their pots if they didn’t clean them super well.

But again, everyone should check with their LOR.

Personally, in my home we never sold the chometz on the keilim, but now that I sell my own chametz, I think I remember that it’s automatically included on the form, so I think I do end up doing it anyhow, but I’m not sure.

🙂 okay, you convinced me.

So I was in a store in Monsey once, and I overheard two Chassidish men talking. One of them was telling the other about a mutual friend of theirs whose wife had been trying to get him to stop smoking. Finally, one day she said to him, “if you don’t stop smoking, I’m going to start.”

The next day he came home to find his wife smoking. He stopped immediately.

Caution: If anyone knows about the Yeshiva and wants to help reishischochma by telling him about it, please make sure not to say anything negative as that would constitute Loshon Hara. Stick to positive and neutral information only.

Reishischochma – imho, if you really want to find out about a Yeshiva, this is probably not the best place to do so. For one thing, you have no idea if you can believe anything anyone tells you since you don’t even know who they are.

For another thing, they are not allowed to give over negative information in this type of forum.

You may be able to find out some things such as what Yeshivas the guys are from. But I would suggest you try to find people in real life to tell you about the Yeshiva.

You should ask your LOR all your questions, but I will just point out a couple of things regarding selling chometz. These may have already been mentioned (I didn’t read this thread that carefully), and if so, I apologize.

You don’t have to have chometz to sell. In fact some people say it’s better to get rid of all your chometz before-hand and NOT to sell it. Some people will even throw all their chometz out or burn it rather than sell it (because they hold it’s better NOT to sell chometz). Others will give it away to people who do sell chometz. There is nothing wrong (to the best of knowledge) with not having chometz to sell.

However, I think you might have to do a “mechiras chometz” (selling chometz) anyhow, even if you don’t have any real chometz to sell, just in case you do have chometz around.

You should check with your LOR about that, and also ask him when you can come to him to sell your chometz. Most Rabbis have set times before Pesach when they are available for selling chometz, but it’s basically men who come, so as a single girl, you have to find out when it would be a good time for you to come. (I have a lot of experience with that. In one place where I used to live, they let me come the same time as everyone else and they let me go ahead of everyone else – that was cool)

Before you sell your chametz, if possible, you should know what cabinets,etc, will have things in them that you are selling, and you should know what specific items you are selling (the Rabbi will ask you to list the places, and he might ask you what items you are selling).

Aside from food, there are many products that may be chometz. There are also different opinions regarding which products have to be kosher l’pesach. By products, I am referring to things such as shampoo, conditioner, make-up, other hair products, toothpaste, deodorant, etc.

There are books available that list the kosher l’Pesach products. But you should also ask your LOR about this since there are opinions that some of these items don’t have to be kosher l’Pesach.

“most seniors of my BY high school smoked.”

really? I’m surprised? Were they considered rebellious? What year or decade are we talking about?

You do write “NEVER in PUBLIC” so it sounds like it probably wasnt that acceptable.