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“What if I am not real but my imaginary friends are?”
Sounds like you’re a poster in the Coffee Room….
There are still secular Jews who read Yiddish newspapers?
Neve
Lesschumras – that’s not a helpful comment. She is learning about Yiddishkeit – cut her some slack please. So many things about Yiddishkeit sound crazy if you never heard of them before, so why should she think these are crazy questions?
And if you do feel it’s necessary to say something, at least say it politely.
Isn’t that a contradiction in terms?
LB – I don’t think I ever heard that – I just assumed it. I think I probably figured it out from living in EY. When I moved to EY and found out that they changed the clocks here on Thursday evening, I figured out that the reason must be because Shabbos is not affected by the clock, so from that I reasoned that in the US they must do it for the same kind of reason.
Rebshidduch – that is great that you want to go to seminary and I really hope it works out! If it doesn’t for some reason (and I hope it does), you might want to look into summer programs.
I know that seminaries used to have summer programs sometimes and I assume they still do. And you don’t necessarily have to have gone to that seminary in order to attend the summer program. For example, I know a girl who went to Darchei Binah’s summer program even though she hadn’t gone to seminary. This was years ago though, so I have no idea if it still exists.
I still think a year-long program would be the best, and I think Neve would be a great idea for you. This is just if it doesn’t work out.
Why are you posting Joseph? I would have thought you’d be drunk.
That’s true but it depends. I had been trying to keep more normal hours lately. And since I didn’t sleep today during the day (and had a very busy day obviously), I had expected to go to sleep at a normal hour tonight.
But I ended up having to take care of a drunk Yeshiva Bochur who had passed out at the busstop and getting him back to his Yeshiva in Yerushalayim (long story), so I decided to go to the Kosel while I was there, and almost missed my last bus back, which would have been REALLY BAD because even if I found a place to sleep in Y-m, I doubt I would have found a Megillah reading at that hour (which I would have been chayiv in if I slept over), but BH, there was still a bus. So I just got home about an hour ago, and that’s why I’m still up.
It’s for secular girls, but they often have BY or Yeshiva graduates. However, it’s possible that this has changed. You would have to ask them. I would think that a BY graduate could always go even if turns out that it is not so common, but again, you would have to ask.
Even if it turns out that it’s less common today (which I’m not sure about), one fact still remains the same and that is the fact that there is a tremendous amount that BY graduates can get out of it. That is why they used to go (and perhaps still do). They often feel that they learn things at Neve that they never learned in Bais Yaakov. I have heard this from one more than one BY grad who went to Neve.
Way past mine! But I was at the Koisel when it should have been mine and just got home not long ago.
Or to put it more simply, read Huju’s post (which was not posted yet when I started mine).
Iacisrmma- I was talking about the daytime minyan & kriah. My point was that I thought some posters in this thread thought that Purim night would be affected by the time change and it would be an hour shorter. My point is that the time people have to wake up Purim morning has nothing to do with what the powers to be decided to call the time. It goes by whatever time Minyan is which I assume is connected to Netz which is unaffected by the artificial time change.
The artificial time change does affect us during the work-week since people’s jobs go according to the time on the clock. However, when the clocks change on a Yomtov, it shouldn’t really affect us. In EY, they used to change the clocks on Thursday night for that reason – this way, many people are not affected until Sunday. In the US, they do it on a Motzei Shabbos since most people will not be affected until Monday (and m/w they have time to get used to it).
I’m getting really tempted to waste 20 shekalim (or whatever it costs) to buy it, but I don’t even know if it’s still available. Plus Purim just ended so I’m kind of broke. Can you tell us what the article said?
LB – you’re the best! How was your Purim? I guess it’s over by now.
The thing is though that I don’t see why this has to be a problem for you. You haven’t given any specifics regarding what you are talking about in your own life, so it is hard to give you “aitza”. However, I will give a few examples regarding what you may be talking about.
One thing you may be referring to is your own need to pursue a “secular” career. If so, I am not sure why you should find this to be a problem nowadays, especially since you live in EY where it seems to me that it has become even more acceptable for Frum girls to pursue various career paths and there are many Frum programs available in many fields. Since the Torah world nowadays encourages Kollel, by extension, it has become more and more acceptable for Frum girls to pursue “secular” careers. Since it is for the purpose of supporting their husbands in Kollel, you have the ??? ????? ???? aspect right there. And of course, you can also make sure to keep up your own learning while you are in college so that you don’t lose sight of your focus and goals.
If you are referring to your husband’s working vs. learning, I think that nowadays it is generally felt that the only way that one can get a strong base in Limud Torah and Avodas Hashem is by starting out in Kollel for at least the first few years. After that, if someone needs to go to work to support his family, that is a very big Mitzvah, and if he has that foundation in Torah from his Kollel years, he is more likely to be able to go to work while maintaining his focus on Torah.
I don’t know if any of this is helpful to you as I’m not exactly sure what you are asking. If you clarify a bit more, it might help.
One of the most basic concepts of Judaism is: ??? ????? ???? What this means is that our only purpose in life is to serve Hashem and everything we do is for that purpose.
That means that if someone feels that as part of his Avodas Hashem, he needs to have a “secular” career and/or obtain a “secular” education or get a job instead of learning full-time (or in the case of a girl, marry someone who is working), etc, all of these things can be done l’sheim Shamayim and be part of his Avodas Hashem.
You mention that you feel that most people are either into secular pursuits or into Avodas Hashem. It sounds like you haven’t really encountered people who are pursuing secular pursuits as part of their Avodas Hashem.
I don’t know who the people you know are and why you haven’t encountered this. I am guessing that part of it might stem from the fact that l’maaseh, most people who are truly into Avodas Hashem nowadays are either not interested in or don’t need the secular pursuits. Or even more likely, perhaps most people find that in the world today, pursuing a secular career while being completely focused on Avodas Hashem is practically impossible. Most of the people who talk about “Torah and Worldly Pursuits” are not talking about living a life of Avodas Hashem and serving Hashem in different ways. They are actually talking about living a double life (whether or not they aware of this).
Rav Hutner, zatsal differentiatied between living a double life and living a broad life (one in which the entire focus is on serving Hashem but this is done through various means such as a “secular” career).
However, my guess is that in today’s world, it is not realistic for most people, and most people do find that they have to choose.
I was thinking of the regular Neve program. Within the regular Neve, there are different levels. You would have to discuss that with them when you apply.
It does seem to me that Neve may be the best option at least from anything that I know of.
Rebshidduch – I had previously recommended a book that is about that. It’s called “Just one Jew” by Moishe Mendlowitz. It’s about a guy from a very Frum home who stopped being Frum when he was 18 and was chozer b’teshuva THIRTEEN years later at the age of 13!!
It’s well-written, enjoyable reading, inspiring and fascinating.
LB – +1 googol! Nice! And very nice of you to bring in your experiences.
“Being a joke makes it no less mean”
That sentence makes no sense. Being a joke makes a mean comment no less mean but there was nothing mean about LB’s comment. As I pointed out, it was a meaningless comment and a meaningless comment can’t possibly be mean (although it can be a joke and usually is, and was in this case). On the other hand, assuming that LB was being mean was rather mean.
Neve would probably be a good option. I have known BY graduates who went there and felt they got a lot out of it.
how old is the girl? 20?
Chas v’shalom, Lightbrite is never mean! I think it was just a joke. I don’t think it had much meaning – probably about as much as yours do, RY. Of course yours may have more meaning than I realize. And then again, so may this.
I may not be drunk. A teeny bit of chocolate liquor can not render someone drunk.
RY – +1. Especially when it comes to Chagim. I don’t think you guys even had a shorter night last night because shul/megilah reading was probably an hour later, no? Doesn’t it go by zman kirias Shema?
Yeah, I’m also curious. Why is it about the CR or the YWN homepage?
k, Wolf, I looked it up. These were the posts the last time it was discussed:
If you go back to the thread being referenced, this is what you find:
So it seems that according to Joseph, Rav Elyashiv zatsal did not say that someone who thinks the earth is older than 6 thousand years old is an apikorus.
So I don’t get why he seems to say the opposite here and in the last thread (the one I referenced first).
Can you explain, Joseph?
Wolf, the last time this came up, Joseph actually said that you’re not an apikorus and you are a tzaddik even though you believe the world was created more than 6 thousand years ago. I will try to find the link for you.
King David – maybe that’s why I like peanut butter cups so much – especially when I’m stressed.
Speaking of which, I’m expecting some tomorrow…
Pritzus comes from too much chesed. A stork is called chasida in Loshon Hakodesh because she is very pritzusdik and chasida is from the loshon of chesed. An extreme of any middah can be bad.
It’s beautiful that you want to do chesed, but any middah can be misused. No middah is inherently good or bad – it depends on the situation.
According to halacha, a woman is not supposed to give to a man or a man to a woman (Rema Siman 695, Seif 4).
“Impersonating and dressing up are two different things.”
Kind of like the difference between RebYidd or PBA trolling and a real troll trolling.
“Requiring a letter is not something exclusive to Lawrence, Lakewood requires it as well”
On Purim too? Or only the rest of the year?
Impersonating and dressing up are two different things.
THAT WOULD BE AN AVEIRA AND NOT A MITZVAH!!!!!
I do know someone who sold her house but somehow I was still allowed to stay there during Pesach. I asked her Rav who had sold her chametz for her and he said I was allowed to. It seemed odd to me, but he’s a very well-known Rav.
btw, I am wondering why being a lot of fun is a qualification for choosing a Rabbi? That doesn’t sit so well with me. Unless you just thought it was the only way to get this particular person to start going to shul more often, etc.
LB – that is beautiful. A big part of the concept of LH is that it’s lowly to speak negatively about people. That is why it is brought down that even in cases where it is permissible to speak LH about others, it is still a good middah not to.
lol, just saw that this is a Troll post.
I was going to mention that if you don’t mention names and they won’t be able to figure it out, it’s okay.
BUT, you have to be very careful with that (which is why I was reluctant to mention it). The Frum world is very small and often people can end up figuring out who you are talking about even if you don’t think they will. I definitely know of cases where that happened.
It’s also happened to me that someone told me a story about someone without saying the name, and then another time the same person told me the story again (having forgotten that they had already told it to me), but this time they said the name but said it with less details. They didn’t remember that they had already told me the story with more details so now I knew who it was about.
Well she did laugh, so maybe she didn’t mind that much. Then again, she laughs a lot, so I’m not sure.
I was also at least 12-13 years old when I got my email address. I don’t think anyone should be getting an email address before 12-13.
from at least 12-13yo. She said “at least” So we now know that she is at least 21 years old.. but we already knew that anyhow.
That one I actually knew about (my mom gets the credit for that bit of knowledge).
Really cool! Such hashgacha! so happy for you!
yo = years old.