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  • in reply to: Why is the oilam so quiet about the Iran Deyanat? #624143
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    sammyjoe: iran deyanet does not “mean” anything! its a name. of a boat to be exact. before running your mouth (or fingers) how about maybe googling something next time, and don’t waste peoples time with your ignorance.

    in reply to: Kosher Electric Shavers? #963301
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    go ask YOUR rabbi, rov, rebbe, etc!

    in reply to: Science Discovers Tznius #623548
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    gmab and sarah: an ip address “can” change, but it happens pretty less often then you may think. unless you have dialup, its rare. now for you both to have the same ip address constantly after multiple postings, it is figuratively impossible, unless you are using the same computer, or atleast the same connection through a local router, as in a house, or public library.

    to explain: gmab, you get a ip address designated to you on tuesday from your isp (ineternet service provider : verizon, cablevision, time warner, cox, etc). you turn off your computer for a week. now sarah had her computer off for a week, and in the next one to turn on hers. she gets said previously assigned address that expired after a week that was yours. now for you to get yours back, and to keep on going back on forth, which i will take is what the moderator is seeing, is near impossible. it is more likely that you are one and the same and/or in the same family and/or use the same network, either at work, or say in a library. trust the moderator is not a fool for seeing the same ip address and thinking you are one and the same. ip address designation is a pretty strong way of telling who is at a computer and when. admissible in court, no, but it is good forensic proof when given with other forms. police use it all the time.

    in reply to: Sowell: Obama Win Would Be Historic Tragedy #623438
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    illini07: saying that he didnt say that mccain would be anymore willing then mccain is ridiculous.

    1. he starts out clearly stating “Performance is where Obama has nothing to show for his political career, either in Illinois or in Washington.” i don’t think he thinks mccain has “nothing to show” for his many years in the senate!

    3. “If Barack Obama thinks that such a catastrophe can be avoided by sitting down and talking with the leaders of Iran, then he is repeating a fallacy that helped bring on World War II.” this is talking about barack obama and not john mccain. it is the policies of this “immature” (as putin put it) statesman from illinois that are that of pre-ww2 europe!

    and there are many other things in this article clearly about obama’s policies which are in complete conflict with the beliefs AND RECORD of john mccain! so where exactly should we note things about what he did and did not say?

    in reply to: Windows 7- The New Windows #673162
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    joseph: ok, so there was windows 1, 2, 3, 3.1, etc. that has nothing to do with the fact that this is really version 6.1. the number 7 is the number of main releases.

    in reply to: Windows 7- The New Windows #673161
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    eric55: you are very very wrong. hp, sony, toshiba, and many others all allow downgrades. not for all their machines, but for most.

    ujew: you are correct that vista is pretty good now for the home user. in a network environment, it is not so good. the bells and whistles of vista swallow memory on a scale that is uncalled for.

    in reply to: Windows 7- The New Windows #673156
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    Joseph: no, you are numerically challenged. or at least researchly challenged. 7 is not the version, which is actually going to be 6.1. it is the major release number.

    95-2

    98-3

    etc

    in reply to: How to Block the Internet from My Children? #1216630
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    if you have money, the best way would be to get a heavy duty firewall, which will allows for user settings. when you try to go to a site, the firewall login pops up. one of the best is sonicwall. it allows for users, and you can pay for services that block certain sites.

    in reply to: Windows 7- The New Windows #673151
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    noitallmr: you can wait, till 2010 when it is slated for roll-out. just remember, vista was slated for original deployment in ’05. i would get a new pc, and downgrade it to xp. that way, if vista was to become better in the near future (xp was horrible its first year and a half as well, just not this bad) you can always upgrade it back, as you’ll have the license. you’ll need to get the media, but that is not too hard.

    in reply to: Kid Off The Derech #625184
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    oomis1105: “Have you ever met a modern person that does NOT think THEY are superior? I have yet to meet that modern person who accepts chassidishe pple.”

    in reply to: Boys in Japan #623361
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    muchcommonsense: gotcha! never heard of a stopover in japan. its way out of the way, isnt it?

    in reply to: Presidential Pecking Order #684658
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    anon for this: you have now said this statement twice “But seeing what apparently intelligent, fairly well-educated people on this board believe, I know longer why so many people do believe these things.”

    care to share some examples of what people believe?

    and the fact that you dont see an alarming amount of murders and suicides around the clintons is a bit shocking! you probably are one who believes obama is god gift to humanity is isnt a marxist type socialist!

    in reply to: Is it the correct thing to have takanos for weddings? #623130
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    000646: what you dont undersatnd is that certain people who say terms like “the rabbonim” and “gedolim” only mean thos aspousing their line of thinking. any other rov who doesnt fit into their daled amos of judaism is not only not part of this “league of rabbonim” (similar to the justice league, you just some how get super powers, and your in!) but is deemed a mishugenah, am haaretz, or some other nonsense. the term daas torah is a new invention. daas torah means absolutely nothing. it is a platitude. it attempts to give legitimacy to the illegitimate. the idea that one is to follow some group of rabbonim is absurd. one is to follow his rov. if ones rov decides to acquiesce to the general rabbinic perception of a halachah in the said generation, then it is that rov’s prerogative. we no longer have a av bes din and a reish galusa to mandate halacha.

    in reply to: Kid Off The Derech #625172
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    oomis1105: youare dead wrong! have you ever learned with modern people. they consider the yeshivish gedolim and teh modern gedolim to all be gedolim. they hold rav moshe and rav ahron in the same respect as rav kook!, yet the yeshiva world mocks rav kook and rav yushe ber soleveitchik all the time, whether called the rov jb, or rav kook just kook. these ignoramuses have no clue that rav kook was the only one allowed by the netziv to wear tefillin all day. the aderet allowed him to marry his daughter, and then his neice! rav yitzchok hutner many atime called the rov the gadol hador! rav moshe was very close to his cousin through marriage, and though did not see eye to eye on alot of issues, held him in equal regard. now go to yu, riets, merkaz harav, or any other m.o. or mizrachi yeshiva and you will find the acceptance of zeh vezeh divrei elokim chaim. in the yeshiva world it is zeh veloh zeh divrei elokim chayim. and before im labeled some liberal wacko, i went to mainstream yeshivas, all espousing right wing theories of “gadolship”.

    in reply to: Shidduch Info- “check ’em out!” #663466
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    havesomeseichel: siblings are actually one of the only things chazal say should be checked into. obviously some degree of rational thought processes have to be used. if one sibling went off the derech,and the others are fine upstanding ehrlich jews, then there may not be so much of a problem. if a majority are, i would say more looking into needs to be done.

    in reply to: Presidential Pecking Order #684653
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    anon for this: do i really believe the clintons had them ALL killed? no, but i find it very ironic that everyone who starts to have information against them that may incriminate them, they wind up dead. how many people do you know who was killed or committed suicide. they know over 25!! don’t you think that is a little suspicious?

    and btw, us controlling the financial markets isnt too nutty. we were the bankers in europe. this is a fact. now there was a reason for it. it was because the goyim didnt allow us into many fields of work, and they knew if we were the bankers, they can renege on their loans, and no one would enforce it. the 9/11 attacks is a ridiculous one. and we had a huge part, and still do, in the movie making in the us, and in the newspapers as well. in ny alone, the times, sun (olev hashalom), and the daily news are all run by jews. (yes, the idiots running the times are jino’s, jews in name only!) if anything we should be proud! we did this all in 3-4 generations!

    in reply to: Barack Obama #624089
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    Give Me a Break: im not sure why you are telling hte rjc that hillary is a dem. we all know that, and we also know that she said that obama is not qualified to be president. biden agrees btw, “the presidency doesn’t lend itself to on the job training”.

    in reply to: Boys in Japan #623358
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    who is buried in japan?

    in reply to: Kid Off The Derech #625146
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    muchcommonsense: your second post is alot more sensible. off the derech in certain communities means very different things. in heavily chareidi circles, becoming modern os off the derech. remember, it is not the girl who said she went off the derech, but the parent. a satmar mother may consider her daughter who has become extremely modern to be off the derech, yet technically if she keeps shabbos and kosher, and is a maimon, she is still ok. not the best, but ok. teenagers nowadays have it tough. go easy on them. no jewish generation since the teivoh for avoda zorah was taken away has had this much enticement from the yetzer hora thrown at them.

    joseph, yes, muchcommonsense’s original post may be understood by the wise, but not by the teenager it was aimed at, so he should not have shared them here.

    in reply to: Which English Translation of The Kuzari? #623014
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    feivel, no prob. its easy reading. for yuntif or summer.

    in reply to: Presidential Pecking Order #684648
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    jospeh: you better watch out. people who cross the clintons wind up dead!

    James McDougal – Clinton’s convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr’s investigation.

    Mary Mahoney – A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown. The murder happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.

    Vince Foster – Former White House counselor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock’s Rose law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.

    Ron Brown – Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown’s skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors.

    C. Victor Raiser II & Montgomery Raiser – Major players in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.

    Paul Tulley – Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock, September 1992. Described by Clinton as a “Dear friend and trusted adviser”.

    Ed Willey – Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in Virginia of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.

    Jerry Parks – Head of Clinton’s gubernatorial security team in Little Rock. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock. Park’s son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton. He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.

    James Bunch – Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a “Black Book” of people containing names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas.

    James Wilson – Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.

    Kathy Ferguson – Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson died in May 1994 was found dead in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she was going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.

    Bill Shelton – Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancee.

    Gandy Baugh – Attorney for Clinton friend Dan Lassater died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.

    Florence Martin – Accountant sub-contractor for the CIA related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. Died of three gunshot wounds.

    Suzanne Coleman – Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.

    Paula Grober – Clinton’s speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.

    -Danny Casolaro – Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparent suicide in the middle of his investigation.

    Paul Wilcher – Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 “October Surprise” was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington DC apartment. Had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.

    Jon Parnell Walker – Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington, Virginia apartment balcony August 15, 1993 Was investigating Morgan Guarantee scandal.

    Barbara Wise – Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.

    Charles Meissner – Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.

    Dr. Stanley – Head Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton’s advisory council personally treated Clinton’s mother, stepfather and brother.

    Barry Seal – Drug running pilot out of Mena Arkansas, Death was no accident.

    Johnny Lawhorn Jr. – Mechanic, found a check made out to Clinton in the trunk of a car left in his repair shop. Died when his car hit a utility pole.

    Stanley Huggins – Suicide. Investigated Madison Guarantee. His report was never released.

    Hershell Friday – Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1, 1994 when his plane exploded.

    Kevin Ives & Don Henry – Known as “The boys on the track” case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. Controversial case where initial report of death was due to falling asleep on railroad track. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.

    **Source: http://members.tripod.com/~rcjustice/pres.html

    in reply to: Shidduchim & Weight #625364
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    torahls1: amen brother! but a question, if the smokers marry the fat girls, who marries the 22 divorcee with and triplets who has no legs?

    in reply to: Reading Vista Documents?! #623010
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    TOHIGHSCHOOLGUY: im happy to hear all worked out in the end.

    jospeh: for some dumb reason my sentence period somehow got into the link. thanks for clarifying.

    in reply to: Reading Vista Documents?! #623009
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    TOHIGHSCHOOLGUY: im happy to hear all worked out in the end.

    jospeh: for some dumb reason my sentence period somehow got into the link. thanks for clarifying.

    in reply to: PETA #624619
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    zevi8 – if god doesn’t want us to eat meat, how do you explain the korbon pesach which one is chayev koreis of not eaten, or for that matter any of the korbonos below the oleh, which is consumed by people?

    in reply to: Reading Vista Documents?! #623006
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    think613: maybe you shouldn’t be such an ignoramus before maligning someone. updating an operating is not installing an new version such as vista, it is updating it. you can either set it to auto-update, or do it manually. either should be done regularly, as majority of updates are security related.

    opening the documents has absolutely nothing to do with vista at all. it has to do with the fact he has office 2007 installed. as i wasn’t talking to you but i to the person who posted the issue, i could care less if you use a library or other shared computers. use what you want, but then you will be stuck with such issues. for a person to save documents as earlier versions is not always smart, as it can remove much of the new formatting in 07. i am not being a “bigshot”, i am being helpful. sorry if this bothers you, but again i don’t care, as i was trying to help the original poster, not you.

    in reply to: Which English Translation of The Kuzari? #623012
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    well, if you want to also read a great historical fiction of the kuzari i strongly suggest the book the jewish kingdom of kuzar written by the famous yekkish author in the pre mazi era rabbi zelig schachnowitz. (his book on the chasam sofer is also amazing, titled a light from the west.)

    http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&search-type=ss&index=books&field-author=Rabbi%20Zelig%20Schachnowitz&page=1

    in reply to: Reading Vista Documents?! #623004
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    Belev Echad: ok here is the real answer.

    you do not need to set any settings at all. the person getting the documents should download the Microsoft Office Compatibility Pack for Word, Excel, and PowerPoint 2007 File Formats from Microsoft to read office 07 file extensions with the added x in them (doc is now docx, xls – xlsx). it can be found at: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=941b3470-3ae9-4aee-8f43-c6bb74cd1466&displaylang=en . (btw, if the person receiving your document had been updating his operating system and office suite like he or she should have, then this would have installed automatically, and they would not have had this problem.)

    the reason you should leave the settings the way they are is explained here: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa338205.aspx. it explains why using file formats that use the open xml format is superior to their old one.

    in reply to: Shidduchim & Weight #625356
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    joseph: muchcommonsense’s comments was beautifully said? you have not a clue as to how reality works. many many many a marriage has been lost to one spouse losing physical interest in the other. speak to any frum family/divorce attorney. looks is actually one of the only things halachically permitted to be on a “list”. being heavy is actually preferable to some people. to say that a person should not be honest to what attracts him is useless. i do agree though at a point the guy is being stupid. but again, it is his prerogative. you may think putting looks on the top 5 is foolish, i think putting yichus is, and the other guy thinks putting family monetary value is, while a fourth thinks whether the guy has a beard or will learn in kollel for x many years is foolish. all are foolish, and all are legitimate. the criteria is that it should be an honest decision, and not one pushed on by parents!

    in reply to: Kid Off The Derech #625138
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    muchcommonsense: not using much common sense here are you?

    you are assuming she is not shomer shabbos. maybe she is just not chassisdish/yeshivish anymore. maybe she is, but is just not home. judging people is never a good idea when it comes to teens at risk. keep your stupid comments to yourself.

    in reply to: Presidential Pecking Order #684645
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    joseph, my mistake, i thought you were saying teh way he handles it was good. he handled it horribly, and the only reason it happened was because russia thought of him as weak. (sound like obama anybody!?)

    in reply to: Presidential Pecking Order #684639
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    joseph, the pecking order would be

    1. Vice president (president of senate) – Dick Cheney

    2. Speaker of house – Nancy Pelosi

    3. president pro tempore of senate – Robert “KKK” Byrd y”s

    4. Secretary of State – Condoleezza Rice

    5. Secretary of the Treasury – Henry Paulson

    6. Secretary of Defense – Robert Gates

    7. Attorney General – Michael Mukasey

    8. Secretary of the Interior – Dirk Kempthorne

    9. Secretary of Agriculture – Ed Schafer

    Skip Secretary of Commerce – Carlos Gutierrez (non-natural)

    Skip Secretary of Labor – Elaine Chao (non-natural)

    10. Secretary of Health and Human Services – Mike Leavitt

    11. Secretary of Housing and Urban Development – Steve Preston

    12. Secretary of Transportation – Mary Peters

    13. Secretary of Energy – Samuel Bodman

    14. Secretary of Education – Margaret Spellings

    15. Secretary of Veterans Affairs – James Peake

    16. Secretary of Homeland Security – Michael Chertoff

    what you have is your top ten list of best presidents. very differant. but great non the less. and i do agree, bush jr will be either 2nd or third. though i do take up that the kennedy cuban missle crisis was a good thing for him. if not for russia thinking, and rightfully so, that kennedy did not have the stones to attack them, it never would have happened. also, nixon ended teh war in vietnam in defeat. he should have stuck it out and won!

    in reply to: Kapparos: Chickens, Fish, or Money? #660955
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    Give Me a Break: you still havent answered me on the azazel!

    in reply to: Bein Hazmanim #623136
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    the right way: simple answer, ask your rebbe! not a bunch of no name posters on a message board you probably do not belong in, since you clearly feel you should be learning!

    in reply to: Shidduchim & Weight #625338
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    popa_bar_abba: the girls do not need to be “thin” per se. just “not fat”. there is a grave difference between the two. skinny is a size 0-4 (maybe 6) but up to a 10-12 is still not fat. of course it all depends on the build of the girl. but you are right when you say us guys will not change. and women telling guys that they are shallow is stupid, and doesnt help. it just hinders progress of a solution.

    just as many, if not more, skinny girls are unmarried. all the older girls i tend to see unmarried, from 25 on up, are usually skinny or close to it. some are just unlucky if such a thing exists. others are stupid, and way too picky until it was too late.

    in reply to: PETA #624602
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    yoshi, what in the world does gilgul have to do with anything. he said he wants to sit in the afterlife with dogs. dogs have no afterlife, plain and simple.

    in reply to: Barack Obama #624077
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    no, silly, i am saying that they were qualified for their positions.

    in reply to: What Kind of a Kapora is This??? #623222
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    feivel, maybe you can get one of these animal lovers to answer me finally!

    how about the azazel. we chuck a goat of a cliff, and it gets shredded to death!

    in reply to: Barack Obama #624075
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    anon for this, these people were appointed to positions that the senate has to approve. so if the senate did not think they deserved the positions they should have voted that way.

    in reply to: Get My Music onto a CD #626590
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    easy, get yourelf assured. easisiest way to make money in the music industry. worked for mbd, black hattitude, oif simchas, yishai lapidot, and lipa!

    in reply to: PETA #624600
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    gmab, sorry, animals have no afterlife, they have no neshoma, hence no gan eden/gehinom. they are no different then a piece of wood.

    in reply to: America, Democrats, and Jewish Values #623000
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    gmab: “Why do Jews freely use the words “shvartze” when referring to African-Americans? “

    the same reason “some” use telainishe for italians, poylishe for polish, and ungarish for hungarian. because that is the word in yiddish.

    yes, it has gotten a aometimes negative connotation to it over the years, but technically, and inherently, there is nothing wrong with it.

    i find it funny that in the entire post of mine, you only took to one issue, and instead of answering it, you pointed to a bunch of jews and said “but you say scvartza, na na na kish kish”. last i checked, sprintze malkah’s husband isnt running for president of the free world. (sorry america, you libs dont believe we are the moral superior country.)

    in reply to: Kapparos: Chickens, Fish, or Money? #660948
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    joseph: something we agree on, peta and their followers are nuts!

    gmab: i have a question, do you also feel that lions shouldnt eat antelope and deer? we are on a food chain. on most we are the top of it, but in some cases we are not. its life. deal with it. eat a burger, youll live!

    in reply to: Kapparos: Chickens, Fish, or Money? #660941
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    gmab: while i agree that a chinken should not be used, it is for differant reasons. my litvish roots make it look pagan to me, as many rishonim/achronim saw it.

    but your second to last post bothers me. you say we need rachamim during aseres yemei teshuva, and using a sinless creature would not be in that spirit. well, how do you explain the echad leazazel? it was a goat that we chucked off a steep rocky cliff and was mauled to death while its body was ripped to shreds? but i forgot, you place your loyalties with your feelings, instead of your religion! that would be my feeling talking!

    in reply to: Wearing a Talis During Shabbos Shuva Drasha? #622861
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    gedalya: it seems alot rabbonim wear one, at least ashkenazic. the two reasons are kovod to the tzibbur, and to block ayin hora, since he will be giving mussar to the tzibbur.

    in reply to: PETA #624595
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    squeak, what source do you have for us that we will eat the shor? all i know, and all i can research is that each will shecht each other. the only ones who seem to say we will partake of the shor, is lubavitch, and they are speaking in esoteric terms only.

    in reply to: Barack Obama #624073
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    yossiea: for the record of being correct, all those colleges i mentioned are part of cuny (city university of ny). now cuny, whether you like it or not, is a member of the american association of community colleges. if you do not believe me, check out http://www2.aacc.nche.edu/amsmemberdirectory/results_membercolleges_state.asp?statecode=NY

    and see for yourself. (not sure why you thought lehman wasa community college out of all those i mentioned).

    in reply to: Please Call Me a Kanoi #642847
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    cantoresq: see, people nowadays like to be kanoim because of this passuk, and make silly macha’os. dont burst their bubble with facts. it would be so unkind right before yom kippur.

    in reply to: Barack Obama #624066
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    anon for this: he didnt have a soft spot for losing senators, he had a soft spot for his friends. even his detractors in the dem party have always given him credit for his loyalty to his friends. he never leaves them at the wayside, no matter what it means to his name! that is something to copy, not make fun of!

    in reply to: America, Democrats, and Jewish Values #622996
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    anon for this: lets go point by point.

    book banning: the answer palin gave at the time, in 1996 btw, way before she was picked as veep, so it had nothing to do with spin, was that she called her inquiries rhetorical and simply part of a policy discussion with a department head about understanding and following administration agendas. that they were hypothetical doesnt make a difference to liberals. they were appropriate, as she wanted to know the how these type of disputes are handled, as there were complaints to her office about certain books. the reason she asked more then once, three times to be exact, was because each was a differant setting, and she felt she needed to ask each time, in her personal interview, and then in front of different public hearings. she isnt hiding it. it was public knowledge. obama has yet to answer for any of his associations!

    the pay for your own rape kit story is the stupidest spin liberals can make, because googling it, you realize it is a non story., see it had nothing to do with palin, but the police chief of wassila. he didnt want rape victims to pay, and he also didnt want the LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES to pay. he wanted the criminals to pay! its a story in The Frontiersman in 2000. at the time, in 200, only one rape had been recorded IN THEIR HISTORY! since this was not a huge crime, legislation was never passed over it. in other municipalities in alaska, where that crime was maybe more prevalent, the local police dept. did pick up the tab. it was never ever her policy to make anyone pay for the kits, not the person, not the insurance company, not the govt, as it was never a area she mentioned, just as biden, obama, and mccain have no position on this matter.

    i guarantee you obama has never balanced a budget. he has staff doing that. even democrats have said, during the campaign a nominee has little to no idea what i the world is going on, except that they get flown around to speaking gigs. that he balances his campaign budget is nonsense. (saying he does, makes him a very bad manager, as he would thenbe micro managing, which on a campaign size of his would be very foolish!)

    so now that YOU know the FACTS, answer my questions point by point:

    why hasnt obama released his thesis from 83 on communism and russia? whay hasnt he been honest about sharing the stage and chaering a board with william ayers, and homegrown terrorist a leader of the weathermen, and then the weather underground? why did he use to feel that he shouldnt cover his heart during the national anthem? why can he not denounce his friends father flayger and louis farakhan for their hateful speeches. what was his involvement with acorn, and the effect of his involvement and the current housing crisis? why hasnt obama given back at least some of the money he received as campaign contributions from freddie and fannie, obama – 165,400?

    then when you are done that, answer this:

    why should a person like michelle be our first lady? a person that has never felt proud for her country? what has her friendships with bill ayers and Farrakhan been really about? why has she freely used the word “whitey” when describing white people?

    and then about both of them: why did it take 20 years to leave the trinity church. no one believes that they were never there for anti american rantings of that madman rev wright!

    answer these and you will see who the better candidate is hands down!

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