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I must admit, I side with ARSo on this one
Someone better check up if they were thinking of selling their chometz to him next Pesach!
lol!
This one really made my day! 😄In mishnah Torah the rambam clearly understands chukim as laws without a revealed reason
Something similar that I wrote recently in another thread:
“Interesting example of the different styles: In the Moreh the Rambam explains that shiluach hakan is because of tzar baalei chayim.
In Mishneh Torah (Tefilla) he writes that this reasoning is ridiculous, as it is obviously a gzeiras hakosuv that can’t be understood.”Another example from Mishneh Torah (end of Sefer Tahara):
דבר ברור וגלוי שהטמאות והטהרות גזרות הכתוב הן. ואינן מדברים שדעתו של אדם מכרעתו. והרי הן מכלל החקים. וכן הטבילה מן הטמאות מכלל החקים הוא שאין הטמאה טיט או צואה שתעבר במים אלא גזרת הכתוב היא והדבר תלוי בכונת הלב. ולפיכך אמרו חכמים טבל ולא החזק כאלו לא טבל. ואף על פי כן רמז יש בדברThe first time I heard of it was in a viral video of a guy expressing his incredible pleasure of sitting with a Rabbeinu Dovid and rishus cold seltzer in a plastic cup, and “checking out of life”
Rav Aharon Kotler ZTV’L, in Mishnas Rabi Aharon (Vol. 3, Hesped on the Brisker Rav) states that the essence of Modern Orthodoxy is the same as the Reform and Conservative.
I guess this is a point where he and the Rebbe agree.
Here’s an excerpt from a 5717 letter of the Rebbe:
“This is also the case with regard to the person to whom you refer in your letter, who obviously does not belong at all in the Conservative movement, nor in the so-called “New” brand of Conservatism, which goes under the name of “Modern Orthodoxy.””
midwesterner,
Your post sounds like the reaction of a Lubavitcher when someone complains that CH isn’t tzniyusdik. Lol
P.S. I know nothing about Lakewood, as I wrote in this post: https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/question-of-an-ignorant-closed-minded-lubavitcher#post-2203613
Just the comparison struck me as funny
If a Lubavitcher would have wrote this, we wouldn’t hear the end of the problems with “Chabad supremacy” 😄On the topic of Modern Orthodoxy, here is an excerpt from an English letter of the Lubavitcher Rebbe from Adar 5738 to a woman who was becoming frum.
(Disclaimer: Obviously, the exact definition of Modern Orthodoxy is blurry, so I doubt that everything written here applies to every person who calls themself MO)
“P.S. Your using the term “modern orthodoxy” prompts me to make the following observation.
Although this term is frequently used, if you reflect on it you will realize the inner contradiction in terms. For, orthodoxy refers to a full commitment to a life regulated by the Torah, Toras Emes, and its Mitsvoth, by which Jews live, whereas “modern” implies a compromise and adjustment supposedly in keeping with “modern” ideas. But where truth is concerned, there can be no compromise or accommodation, for even 99% of truth is not the whole truth, and therefore not truth at all.
Needless to say, 99% is better than 98%, but one must not delude oneself in believing that it is the whole truth. Indeed, the Rambam rules that if a Jew accepts the whole Torah except one letter, he is deemed as if he denied the whole Torah. And one of the explanations of it is that truth and compromise are contradictory.
The above does not mean that unless a Jew observes all the 613 Mitzvoth, he is not an observant Jew. Indeed, the Torah declares, “A Jew, though he has sinned, remains a Jew.” It states further that no sinner is rejected, and eventually everyone who had strayed will return to the fold. What is emphasized above is that any thought that the Torah is in any way “outdated” and needs to be “modernized” that is heresy and a denial of the Divine origin and eternal nature of the Torah and Mitzvoth. There is surely no need to elaborate to you further on the above.”
>>>is there any sefer that is accepted by the litvish community, like if it says something there, everyone listens
Saying “the litvish community” is like saying “the frum community” or “chassidish community” (both of which would include Chabad).
The “litvish community” is just a section of the broader “frum community” which is a section of the broader “Jewish community” which is a section of the broader “mankind” (l’havdil).
In the litvish community itself, there are sub-communities of talmidim and followers of their own rabbanim and drachim.
So, yes, each of those communities has a sefer or rov whose derech they follow.Just as Lubavitchers follow the Chabad rabbeim, students of Rav Miller will follow him, followers of Rav Belsky will follow his drachim, etc.
If someone isn’t a student of such a prominent rabbi, he will still have his personal rov who he follows.Avira,
I don’t think you have to accept Reb Moshe’s view on Lubavitch (because (a) you can hold like someone else, and (b) you can say that Lubavitch has changed) –
But it is quite difficult to say that Reb Moshe didn’t have an extremely favorable view of Lubavitch and the Rebbe.If you read the letters that I posted earlier (linked below), you’ll see that it’s much more than “lots of titles.”
He clearly supported the Rebbe and his activities very strongly, including various campaigns that Rav Shach and others strongly attacked.ujm,
As I clarified at the end of my post, I am referring specifically to someone who accepts their opinions with kabbolas ol.
i.e. If there are excellent proofs that it is wrong to shave (see at length in Hadras Ponim Zokon), and someone says “My posek is Reb Moshe, so I don’t care about your proofs, I’m shaving”.
And then, when it comes to Chabad, he says that the problem with them is that “daas Torah” is against them.
That is hypocritical.As I concluded, if someone is using his own logic it isn’t an issue.
My problem is with those who choose a separate “daas Torah” for every issue based on their liking.Rosh,
1: I agree with this point.
2: I possibly agree with some of this, but I probably wouldn’t word it so strongly.
3: I disagree with this. The Tzemach Tzedek says that shaving with scissors is deoraisa, and trimming is a safek deoraisa.
He is generally a yochid in this matter. He makes it clear in his teshuva that this against the opinion of Shulchan Aruch.
I agree that the Tzemach Tzedek is a very very great and holy yochid, and being that he is one of my holy rabbeim I accept all of his psokim, and I would love if the rest of the world followed suit, but I wouldn’t call him a rabim.It is possible that majority of poskim prohibit shaving and trimming (albeit not medoraisa) as can be seen from the sefer Hadras Ponim Zokon, but I wouldn’t say that everyone is obligated to follow them because of yochid and rabim.
It may be very desirable to have a beard due to the overwhelming majority of poskim who encourage it, as well as other important maalos of beard, but I wouldn’t say it’s an obligation IF someone follows a rov who allows trimming.
I would agree however that it is wrong when people play two sides on which rabbanim they use. Some people might accept Rav Shach as daas Torah who must be followed by all of klal Yisroel in regard to Chabad (even though Reb Moshe openly disagreed with him, as can be seen in my post in a different thread) yet when it comes to beards they are meikel like Reb Moshe (when Rav Shach wrote that it is ossur to be meikel and use any type of electric shaver).
Obviously, this hypocrisy does not apply to someone who is against Chabad for his own logical reasons, instead of claiming that he’s just following “daas Torah”.