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Rabboisai I have read some of the responses and have a big tavah to respond back, but in all honesty I have already expressed evreything I need to, I would like to adress menachem shmei and mention two things 1) there are many thoughts I have as to why it’s appropriate for me to say how bad ywn is on the website of ywn but I’m not interested in the shakla vatarya that will ensue, 2) even if I were a hypocrite just like the person protesting being at the beach, while he’s on the beach with the sign, the person with the sign is correct about what he’s saying even if he’s qoute unquote a “hypocrite” his message is still true, so too I am willing to suffer your accusation of being a hypocrite even though I feel I am not, but my message is clear and message is still true ywn is bad

Now rabbosai I have brought proofs, and links to chats in the coffee room which show the ahavah between the coffee room members females to males and vice versa I have brought basic proofs from the Torah i have brought basic proofs of seichel, I have fought back against silly pushaback that I have gotten to prove that not just hashkaficlly but halchicly also this is wrong, I have mentioned a new reason which is the connection and may I say chibah that is shown between men and woman (some married) on this site

And in conclusion I want to bring a kol korei from gedolim I found today and show evreyone that not just is ywn wrong according to our gedolim, but ywn has refused to cooperate and continue to post garbage and shtusim on this site here’s the link and I urge all of you to drop this website with all its issurim and hashkafic issues,
And if you want to find chiyus try to see what is blocking you from a meaningful relationship with Hashem and work on it and try to connect to him and get chiyus from
Him because that is the only chiyus that lasts, THE ONLY

Here is the link: https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/general/43489/more-reaction-to-kol-korei-against-chareidi-websites.html

To all males: a gut chodesh

I’m so sorry you feel offended Reb elizer becuase of what I said, again I’m reiterating that whatever proofs you brought do not have shaychus to this case, this case is not kol isha, and your sevaras are not really making sense to me and they seem to not really have shaychus to this case, (ie. you were speaking about yichud and kol isha)

Anyhow the smoking gun to this case is this https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/goodbye-coffee-room-1

In the above link you will see how others respond to one leaving the coffee room this proves my sevara is true, it shows that there is a connection made between people in the coffee room, one personmakes a deep connection to that others personality and there’s real emotional connection on a deep level between men and women, as ujm brought up pen pals are ussor becuase you are connecting to the opposite gender emotantailly and feeling attached to them, and the link above will prove my point about how yiddeshe kinderlach are doing the same on this site, just read some of the reply’s in the above link,
one being “no pls don’t go”
Another being “pls continue to check up on me”
I’m not trying to attack other peoples emotions I’m just trying to point out this proves how attached cr memebers are to each other, men and women soem married, if you wouldn’t have a friend of the opposite gender without your spouse involved why would you do it online???
HASHEM YERACHEIM

Raboisai here goes: Yasher koach to ujm for backing me up and having some seichal to understand what is being said, and it’s just PURE common sense that it’s wrong to be mingling men and woman talking to each other constantly day in day out.(I’m not trying to attack anyone but if you know it’s wrong/ussor why do u do it, ujm?).

And to menachem your missing the point, what would u like me to do if I want to communicate to the coffee room about something wrong in the CR, how else can I do it other than writing on the coffee room to the cr davka?? (Happens to be this is not about trump and stupidity it’s about serious awareness..)

To Reb elizer with all due respect your saying shtisim and lukshen by an all you can eat buffet, first of all your not a rav and if u want to know the Halacha you have to ask a rav if it’s mutar, not just bring kal vachomers from kol isha and your own savaras to be matir it (which as side point do NOT make sense), but you don’t want to ask a Ruv because we BOTH know what he will say…. so again real life shalos with NO mention in previous poskim need a rav a real rav to matir and like I mentioned you and I both know what the rav will respond…

Now to the actual svaras (I can’t get to all right now) 1 yichud has no shaychas with this so I don’t know what the hava amina is. 2 there is no proof/ kal vachomer from kol isha (which as a side point im pretty sure other poskim argue on Reb ovadia and even if not, minhag yirei shmayaim is not to listen to women sing which basic HASHKAFA will “asser”) kol isha is listening to a Woman sing that is completely different from this discussion, you can’t bring a proof from woman singing, to speaking with a woman day in day out about stupidity about which you get to know the others personality.

About your Svaras… it’s wrong, that’s why you keep going from one to the other in all ur posts… I can also quote chazal let me put one here that’s actually relevant ‏כל העובר עבירה ‏ושנה בה ‏נעשית לו כהיתר, let me just put one example case in point, (and that will defer all your defenses of 1 the moderators make sure people don’t get personal (ha, funny) 2 writing with a pen pal is diffrent/worse and 3 it’s only a problem if ur single (what?))
Case in point I’m gonna use ujm (sorry) because I’ve seen he’s been here for a long time, when ujm sees syag lachochma [on the cr](which I think is a girl but it doesn’t matter to the point I want to make) he recognizes the latters personality and thought process to the extent that he knows how to respond, and can even bring back old jokes and they know each other’s personality to an extent that they already know how to communicate to a certain degree that it’s personal. Now drop that example and just realize this happens and is happening with evreyone in the cr that over here with one another and the matzav is that people are chapping others personality and bonding with one another like friends(girls and boys!!!) and kol shkein if you know that the other is of the opposite gender-the connection that evreyone in the cr builds with each other-is going to be between man and woman that know that they are men and woman speaking!!! And there is a ‏התחברות between man and woman happening with each other, getting to know and communicate with the others personality day in day out (about stupidity mind you) and subconsciously or even consciously from a friendship (men and woman!!!!) This is besides the clear HALACHA that men and woman should not communicate for things that are not important/ not Nogeia and that is in definition “the coffee room” (hence the name) basically a chill spot to shcmooze men and women together for stupidity,

again this needs a rav to be matir and in my eyes it’s clearly ussor al pee hashkafa AND Halacha it’s just poshut like I realized nobody’s really gonna change… and Reb elizer I’m upset at ur heterim that ur making for others and yourslef that don’t really exist al kul punim everyone should have hatzlacha and please maybe even be misgaber on there yetzer and leave the coffee room, which is hard because you know and connect to a lot of people there , which proves my point ‏ושנזכה למשיח צדקנו במהרה בימינו אמן

Well that’s a shame my links were blocked, al kol punim go to shulchanaruchharav. com and look up opposite gender and there will be an article on it called talking to opposite genders

If the moderators will respond then may I ask what you think of my claims? And if u are ready to do something about it? Or are u sitting and laughing at my posts like I assumed in my previous posts

Raboisai the only change that can be made is very simple very very simple it’s either 1)destroy the whole coffee room or 2) make two separate ones and one either registers as females or male. Now lemaaseh option 1 I feel like no one will agree with, becuase people have become attached to one another in this coffee room which is gufa unhealthy (and if one wonders what’s unhealthy about it see the post i posted on augast 16th, hint female and male friends which is ussor) and I feel like option 2 might be possible but probably not becuase a) the mods are watching and laughing as they read this becuase they are not changing a thing and b) even if the mods are willing to change it if the people agree to this, I have a feeling that yes, people are attached to there opposite gender coffee room friends ‏עד כדי כך, they won’t want to have separate coffee rooms which like I mentioned previously proves the serious halchic issue in having a mixed coffee room

Rabbosai ARE WE TAKING ACTION OR NOT ‏מי לשם אלי

@menachem shmei I did realize that but a)how else am I supposed to say to the coffee room people stuff about the coffee room and b) I just found out mamash recently that this place is crawling with ‏תערובת, I just assumed evreyone was a man,
P.s. i personally thought u would understand where I’m coming from

@reb Eliezer ‏אל תרבה שיחה עם האישה פשוטו כמשמעו
If you have mekoros that it doesn’t apply online if be happy to see it

@menachem shmei I don’t go to bmg and the reason i said that comment was my way of expressing what I said in this thread but instead of expressing it in a healthy good way like in this thread I expressed it in those words becuase I felt upset that it’s being normalized to be on ywn to a point that a g Bochur is on it so I don’t think col haposel applied there because like explained above I was expressing my upsetness at the normalazition of ywn @ca it’s not about me it’s about the klal and what I feel about ywn and how they are perceived by the klal and are effecting the klal @reb elizer I don’t understand both of ur comments but if I interpreted it correctly Ur saying what does a shnuchitz like me have being morer the klal and I agree with u it’s just that I feel very strongly that people seem to be not understanding my above points either by being In denial or by going on like they don’t exist and I feel like I have to say this