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popa_bar_abbaParticipant
JF: give me a break.
What if they don’t want you peeking in at all even if by accident?
And for blazes sake–why do you care if they lock their door? How are you possibly taking offense to it?
popa_bar_abbaParticipantFor the host: If you don’t trust them, don’t invite them. It’s that simple.
Let’s say you mostly trust them, so would be willing to have them stay but only if you lock your bedroom. Should you invite them? What if they will have a hard time finding another place?
popa_bar_abbaParticipantThe funniest thing is when someone snoops in the medicine cabinet and everything falls out!
When you say funniest, you mean creepiest, right?
Anyone who would snoop in a medicine cabinet deserves to be shot.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantJF: Why? Why should they clean it instead of locking it? Why? To avoid what?
Oomis: I like you stand up for the underdog. It’s a good middah. Hasehm is mevakesh the nirdaf. (Really, I’m not being condescending.)
popa_bar_abbaParticipantI’m suprised such a law isn’t being challenged by those who want freedom from religion in Israel, like Meretznikim. While a law enforcing sabbath observance does promote one aspect of Jewish identity for the medina, it is also obviously at odds with religious freedom and can be seen as coercive.
1. I’m sure it is.
2. Israel doesn’t have our 1st amendment.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantThis, presumably, was not a surprise visit though. The hosts had time to put away any articles of clothing or trash that were in plain sight (it really only takes a minute).
So they should clean up their room (only for a minute) to avoid the HUGE offense of locking the door.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantInteresting. Likely.
Really, the camp didn’t articulate their reason very well. The real reason is they want the counselors to be role models generally for the hashkafa they want to teach, and presumably you didn’t have those hashkafos. I don’t know why they said a stupid reason like seeing you in pants on an off day.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantWhy do they need to be HUGELY embarrassed to take the HUGE step of locking the door?
What reason on earth is there to NOT lock the door? Presumably the homelenders didn’t think the borrower was psycho and would be offended by nothing (and if they did, then that is why).
popa_bar_abbaParticipantIs chofetzchaim gonna meet up with JF02 while he’s in vegas?????
popa_bar_abbaParticipantGoq: Excellent.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantFor blazes sake:
1. I believe OP was only looking for the right room. But probably they told OP how to find it.
2. There is nothing untoward about them locking the rooms; if only so you won’t walk in accidentally, or so that your kids (if you brought) won’t walk in accidentally. And especially since you should never have even noticed.
3. Untoward or not, there is nothing “creepy” about it.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantBut it wasn’t the end.
The way the vaccine worked, was it caused you to clone a boy who would be right for you, and even out the imbalance (the boy was also autistic, obviously).
But rivky had forgotten to adjust the thergolometer when she was making it, and therefore had added too much theoglympton. The vaccine didn’t stop after one clone and kept popping out more and more.
Now there were clones and clones with no girls to marry. An angry mob of autistic clones wandered the beis medrash, living on thursday night cholent and scratching their armpits menacingly at anyone who tried to bum a cigarette. They kept their cellphones even in BMG, and wore white shirts in chofetz chaim. They loitered outside shadchanim’s houses, and also Deli 52, and also the pizza shops, and also the UN building though nobody knew why.
And then the clones started cloning. And the clone clones started cloning. The beis medrash spilled out onto the streets and it was like chavrusah tumult every day. Deli 52 spilled out onto its street and it was like kapparos every day. The chofetz chaim guys spilled out into Landers and it was like tuesday night every day. The shadchanim barricaded themselves into their homes and it was like tu-b’shvat every day.
And then the cry went up “rivky, rivky, it was rivky”. What was rivky? Who was rivky? Nobody knew, except for writersoul.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantWhat a chillul Hashem. Do you think Moshe rabeinu took off his hat and jacket in the midbar?
popa_bar_abbaParticipantThat doesn’t sound creepy at all.
The only creepy part is as OOM pointed out.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantrd: that wasn’t an ad hominem attack. It was the opposite of one, actually.
An ad hominem attack is where you attack ideas because of the person who said them.
This was attacking the person who said them because of the ideas he said.
And I agree with the attack, in this case. I don’t know how you can have the arrogance to say such things about tosfos, and I really have nothing to discuss with you in the matter of religion anymore.
I still think you’re a nice guy, and I still like to chat with you. But we do not practice the same religion, and I have no interest in interfaith dialogue.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantI am making a ????. People who shudder should make a thread for the object of their shuddering. If they don’t shudder enough to make a thread, then they don’t really shudder.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantOk, so OOM seems to have brought snorting to the CR. Now, I know that I brought snorting to my family, so I wonder if I got it from the CR (and from OOM).
So I searched my email, and the first time I used it in the CR sense was on 7/27/11. Previous to that, I once posted in the CR on 5/16/11 about the regents and wrote “Regents. Snort.” (http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/menahels-decision-to-expel-a-good-boy/page/2?#post-247633), and on 5/2/11 when they got bin laden, I emailed my friend who is an Army Ranger and said “Seals. Snort. The rangers would have gotten him alive.”
So my real starting time is 7/27/11.
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popa_bar_abbaParticipantSure, it’s called rye bread.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantPopa, women are allowed to hear apikorsus?
yeah, I realized I was setting that up, but didn’t really care. Of course women should also not go to his “shiur”
popa_bar_abbaParticipantWe will outlive them
popa_bar_abbaParticipantBefore answering some of the points mentioned, I will say that,unequivocally, the opposition to Rav Goren zz’l was political.
You mean like when he ran for political office and to convince people to vote for him he promised to be mattir mamzerim that all other rabbonim said was assur?
That kind of political?
Why do Chareidim think that the Torah was given only to them? The torah was given to every Jew. No one groupo has monopoly over it.
Because we are primarily the ones who learn it and follow it. We’re actually being melamed zchus on you guys that you just never received it.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantAnd yes, Rabbi Linzer’s daf yomi shiur is attended by women. My wife is now a regular attendee. What is the problem with that?
Absolutely nothing. I have no problem with women attending his shiur, because he is not teaching torah anyway.
I don’t think men should attend his shiur though, because he teaches apikorsus.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantAs far as Rav Shlomo Goren zz’l- he was absolutely right in what he did- because he tried hard to avoid bringing mamzerus into klal.
I like how you change the phraseology when it is someone who you respect.
He was wrong, because he ALLOWED mamzerim into the klal, against the opinion of every gadol, after running for political office on the platform that he would do so.
June 26, 2013 3:08 pm at 3:08 pm in reply to: Meet Cindy�R. Shafran on the Israel draft situation #962288popa_bar_abbaParticipantI agree with you. Not a very convincing article.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantThat isn’t proper usage of the “present sense impression” exception (or maybe I am missing the joke).
Ah yes. I mean Declaration of Intent.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantYes. I did. Did Rabbi Sherman write up a teshuva with sources?
Certainly he did. It was court case, and he issued a very long written opinion.
It is docket number 5489-64-1
popa_bar_abbaParticipantIf he had told his friends, before the kabala, that they were going to go out that night to Chipotle, that would be an umdina d’muchach.
Under the present sense impression exception.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantOther chat rooms online are scattered with personal slurs.
This is what makes the CR different.
m’heicha teisi we are different?
We have heated arguments, we troll, we poke fun, but we cannot make personal insults.
We don’t troll.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantPopa, why do you say that? It doesn’t seem like you’re joking, so I’d just like to advise you that inflammatory statements like that do not add to the achdus of klal yisrael.
Because I think it is true. And I don’t think I should support apikorsus because of the achdus of klal yisroel.
Regarding the metzius itself, you think it is better for someone not to learn ANY Torah their entire lives rather than diligently and meaningfully learn gemara, rishonim, shulchan aruch, or other Jewish texts from a knowledgeable guy like rav linzer?
Yes.
Because Linzer teaches and learns for the purpose of subverting the Torah.
popa_bar_abbaParticipanta Daf Yomi shiur given by Rav Dov Linzer (head of yet) for example, is still learning, still valuable,
I disagree. It is not learning, not valuable, and it is better for a person to not learn one word his entire life than to learn the entire torah from that meisis umeidiach.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantfellow members of CR:
i’ve only known shopping613 for a day, but still…. we’ll miss you gal!
Sure, nothing weird about this post.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantDo the Devils path!!!!!
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/the-abdominal-spirit
popa_bar_abbaParticipantThis opening statement is not very dynamic. Not at all like in the movies.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantKol Kevudah Bas Melech Penima is far more compromised when a woman has to go to work to support her family, than by a once a month ceremony.
Not really, because it depends what the need is. For a woman to go out and support her husband in learning is a great need, and can counterbalance large needs. For a woman to go mumble kiddush levana is not a very great need, and does not counterbalance much.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantI’m not sure why you are asking who is right. Who cares who is right? Right now, you have a situation where your parents and siblings aren’t talking to you and your wife. Surely, whatever issue there was is less important than that.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantCharliehall- Why would you do something against the Halcha, especially if there are easy ways to comply WITH the Halahca??
That isn’t really fair. Charlie stated that not all poskim agree with this, and that he is following his poskim. I personally don’t know enough about the issue to know who holds what, but it is possible there are legitimate poskim who are matir.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantPopa, sometimes your comments are funny and other times they are just completely unneeded.
Thank you. That is another very important lesson for marriage. Sometimes your spouse will say things that you appreciate a lot, and sometimes will say stuff that is frankly kind of inane. But you appreciate them for who they are anyway.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantWhen I get married, I’m totally gonna post my marital problems on YWN.
June 23, 2013 11:36 pm at 11:36 pm in reply to: Billam's Other Prophecy: The Deir Alla Inscription #1092406popa_bar_abbaParticipantCewl.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantFine you win. I agree.
I don’t have a horse in this fight; if the whole thing is made up–then fine.
I’m not saying to double the amount of classes. I’m just saying that instead of dividing the grades randomly, you should divide them by age. If it really makes no difference like you say, then it won’t matter anyway.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantWritersoul:
Look, I don’t have a vested interest in this. My kids are all smart, and it won’t matter a bit because they’ll be the ones going on ski trips while your kids serve them french fries.
I saw in a book that there is a statistically significant disproportionate percentage of kids born in the beginning of the year in elite universities. The only time I attempted to informally test this, it did not hold true, but there were a few problems with my “study”.
Still, it is obvious to me that it is easier to learn to read when you are 7 than when you are 6. And it seems a bit funny that we have the 6 year olds and the 7 year olds learning to read in the same classroom.
Will the smart kids catch up anyway? Sure. But it seems like the sort of thing that could make a real difference.
So why not just divide up the kids by how smart they are? That is probably a good idea also. But in first grade, you don’t really know that yet, and you do know this. Also, it feels less fair when it is age.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantnd remember, Gladwell’s theory is about physical development, in which case it makes a lot of sense that a kid who has 6 more months to grow would be bigger and bulkier than a younger kid. But plenty of smart people were born in July and on- in fact, chances are, it’s pretty close to 50% (if you comb through the records and it’s significantly different, MAYBE we’ll talk).
The thing I read about it claimed that the same results were found in elite universities.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantFTR, that would completely backfire, because if you’re really separating them because the older kids will do better, once the classes are separated, the older kids will continue to do better and the gap will only get even bigger.
That is a cute argument, but it really is tricking you. You need to think about it again.
Look at this this way: Under the current system, it is presumed that anyone who is between 6 and 7 can do a 1st grade curriculum, and is made to do so. The younger kids have a much harder time, and seem weaker, while the older kids have it easier and seem smarter. The teachers take note of this, and the kids do as well, and that compounds the problem.
So the suggestion is to split the class–but still teach both classes the exact same curriculum. That is, don’t slow it down for the younger kids even one drop! The only difference is that the 6 year olds are not longer being compared against the 7 year olds.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantEver hear of Rebecca Gratz? She lived a bit longer than 100 years ago!
I haven’t. But when you bring proofs from “one in a thousand”s, it doesn’t prove your point–it proves it is the exception.
popa_bar_abbaParticipant“I am sure they spend less per capita on police”
Conservatives sometimes forget that government can save lives.
That is not an intellectually honest point. The debate between conservatives and liberals does not concern spending for police, parks, highways, or electrcity grids. It concerns spending for food stamps, section 8, medicaid, obamacare, obamaphones (“I vote for obama because he gives us cell phones”), etc. It concerns the main purpose of the tax code which according to all tax academics is to redistribute wealth.
So don’t condescend us. Don’t lecture us about spending for roads and policemen.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantYou forgot:
Rochel’s double. Snuck in after Rochel was given the vaccine which really did cause autism (and did not cure the shidduch crisis), and switched places with the real Rochel to pretend that it didn’t cause autism but did cure the shidduch crisis.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantComplicated. It depends. It depends what we decide on how bad it was.
Would you rather live in a country where they data mine phone calls for terrorism, or where the people working for the intelligence spill their secrets and run away to Hong Kong.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantBack at the hidden lab, Rivky was observing the results of her newest version of the vaccine. She gently woke up one of the girls and looked for the tell-tale signs.
“Rochel, rochel,” she whispered.
“hello rivky, good morning, how does it look?, rochel responded”
“Blast it! Still nothing. Would this never work?” The most annoying part was that the cure was actually working very well. All the girls who had been injected thought they were happily married within a few hours. But try as she might, Rivky was unable to get the vaccine to cause autism. And there was no chance she’d be able to convince people the vaccine worked if it didn’t cause autism.
popa_bar_abbaParticipantLauren’s triple was not breathing any sighs of relief tonight. It was easy pretending to not pretend to not know how orthodox women acted. She had work to do.
Wearing a white skirt, and a kiki riki shell under an otherwise not tznius blouse, she began nailing together a big crate to hide inside for the flight to Juneau. Wouldn’t her double be surprised when she jumped out and freed rivky.
Oops, almost forgot! She quickly rolled up her sleeve (tzniusly) and injected the next dose of the latest version of the shidduch crisis vaccine. “That was close”, she thought, not breathing any sighs of relief. “A few more minutes and I’d have been a NASI statistic.”
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