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I see him criticizing them strongly. I see him even calling them “stupid”. I don’t see it being motivated by hate.
I think you do diminish the harm done by true haters when you use hate to describe other things.
“The fact that they keep airing this commercial is a disgrace to humanity. How can a person be SOOO STUPID as to fall for this junk?! The ASPCA clearly preys on the emotions of people to get them to fork over their hard earned cash towards a “charity” that is completely worthless.”
If that’s not hatred, I don’t know what is.
I a bit disturbed your use of the word “hatred”. Who exactly are you accusing Curiosity of hating, and why?
I understand that as mostly being to help the person. But silly to speculate when there are sources.
Animals raised in homes, without needing to provide for themselves, with a warm place to sleep and a nice bowl of pet food every day, are NOT necessarily going to survive if left on the street in the middle of the winter without a source of food.
So they’ll die. That’s what happens to animals. They die. Sometimes you eat and sometimes you get eaten.
I’m not aware that the concept of not causing tzaar to animals includes going out and rescuing them from tzaar.
Sure. I can help.
Tell them lots of stories. Play lots of games. Particular, play games that involve getting up and running around or at least movement at the table.
Forget about learning–2nd grade kids don’t need to be learning for 1 or 2 hours a day while in camp. They learn quite enough in school all year. Forget about davening–2nd grade kids don’t know enough to daven.
I suppose if you really must, you can occasionally play a game that involves chumash vocabulary and dikduk. (Seriously, teach them pre-fixes and suffixes if you can.)
It’s easy.
You take whatever it is you were jealous of from them. And then you’re not jealous anymore.
hth: Good point, he probably meant “jog”.
Still not asking in earnest, based on prior posting history.
DY:
Look who asked the question, recall his/her previous posts on this site, look at the bizarre formulation and grouping exercise with taking a job, determine OP is trolling.
very good squeak.
What is funny about animals dying on the street?
Animals dying in the street is funny?
That it doesn’t matter at all if animals die in the street. Of course they die in the street–they also live in the street! Where would you want them to live? In a house? They don’t live in houses–they’re animals!
lololol
animals “dying on the street” is not simply a description of the location of their death. It is also indicative of their lifestyle and cause of death. It means that the animal did not find a place with a family or even a shelter, and instead scavenged scraps on the street, was likely disease-ridden, and almost certainly died of starvation.
lolol
Animals don’t need a home! They don’t need a human family! They are supposed to eat scraps. That is what they naturally do!
Did you hear about the poor deer? It lived in the forest without even a tent, and then it was murdered by a wolf and eaten alive! What a pity–lololol
How about an 8 wife cow? I bet a cow that cost 8 wives would taste might good on a july 4 bbq.
die on the street, lol
lolwut
And how did popa become such an expert on homosexuality?
Same way he became an expert on everything else.
10% paying attention to the world, and 90% boich.
This is absolute nonsense. Even in states where gay marriage is prohibited, there are many gay couples who have lived together for decades and consider themselves to be “married” even if the state doesn’t. They’re no more likely to break up than they would be with an official marriage license.
Actually, gay relationships are usually very different than straight relationships in fundamental ways. Importantly, they do not have the same concept of exclusivity with one’s partner. This is not controversial and not debated. So to compare the relationships is kinda silly.
Furthermore, sure, those relationships *can* end. But even when they do, the gay people will just find new partners, or engage in sexual activity outside of relationships. There is no way to “become straight again” because homosexuality is biological.
That is a nice opinion. I don’t know why you declare it though as if undisputed fact. It is in no way known that homosexuality is biological in the way you mean (I think the better word for what you mean is congenital.)
Popa: And what makes them a p*g? They’re not intruding on anyone else, they’re paying extra to make it easier for those who can’t afford to or don’t want to, by alleviating the traffic. You should thank them, (honk twice at each car).
It’s the other way around. They aren’t pigs because they pay more and go in the tunnel; they are going in the tunnel because they are pigs.
And BTW: if nobody would be willing to pay for the tunnel, then it would be free and they’d get the revenue from the general taxation, which is more fair anyway.
I have read this thread, and:
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Charlie:
I don’t concede your halachic opinions, but even if they are true, I agree with you that the more important point is as you make in your post, and I’ll embellish:
Don’t you think a govt that cared about its citizens and cared to allow them their religious observance, would make such reasonable accommodation within the context of a forced 3 year army service?
To the contrary, they try to make it hard to keep halacha there. When the kol isha issue came up–they made it a womens rights issue to force them to listen.
I think I reasonably do not believe that they are ready to accommodate us in the army in good faith.
Dude, romer was rational basis.
Mandela managed to end a civil war that was threatening to destroy his country.
I certainly don’t condone the apartheid regime. But it is a bit funny to credit someone with ending a civil war that they started.
(do I have my history correct here?)
they do block the tunnel lanes (left 2 lanes) when they cut the “bridge lanes”. The tunnel lanes move smoothly after you pass the bridge exit.
You mean those stuck up pigs who take the tunnel? They think they’re better than all of us? Huh? Well, I hope a car breaks down in each lane of the tunnel and they get stuck for hours.
There is clear historical evidence that in the past, Jews joined in celebrations of the king’s (or queen’s) birthday, showing that in the past pariticipation in a secular holiday of this nature was acceptable
You know they used to kick us out of the country every few years, and we kind of wanted to convince them to like us.
I always wonder if the people who get stuck on a highway on erev shabbos or their cars breakdown with no gas station/repair shop for several miles, are those nasty selfish drivers…
I sure hope not!!!!
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There’s no way it will be as good. I say do a totally different project.
And only Rivky could convince Mrs. Norrisberg, the famous wannabe-turned-successful shadchan to convince Eliyahu (currently living in a terminal in Moscow) to fly to Ecuador to convince Rivky.
And unbenownst to the inshidduchim people, the clones had begun to infiltrate inshidduchim.
It began innocuously with them just asking if they should bring a purse on a date. But then more and more came, and began ongoing story after ongoing story, and scratched their armpits menacingly at anyone who asked if learning guys were good.
Ah, the Q.
lol.
I agree with Goq:
“Am I the only one really bothered by this?”
Yes.
Reagan. Bec it makes liberals mad that he’s still so well liked.
This is one that split Movement Conservatives. On the one hand, they hate gays (or at least they feel they have to pretend that they do; I don’t think their heart is in this one).
They hate gays? Charlie, you don’t even pretend to try to be intellectually honest, do you?
(Also your point is idiotic, because like any “contradiction” of this type, it can be flipped back at you.)
If you have a beard don’t do it.
I’m a Sikh.
Also, http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/im-not-a-chillul-hashem-theyre-just-racist
I’m not sure what’s in the medicine chest, Prozac?
What are you afraid of?
For someone so easily offended, you sure do seem callous about offending others.
I do it. It is rude.
I think it falls under my motorcycle heter though.
Popa’s Motorcycle Heter:
The tayna: Why should I have to wait an hour, if all of you can just wait an extra 30 seconds and let me go first?
The teretz: Because then all of us have the same tayna, and therefore it makes more sense that we should all just wait in line.
The Motorcyle: But I can cut through between the lanes, whereas none of you can. So the teretz doesn’t work. So Popa holds it is not rude for motorcycles to cut between the lanes in traffic, even though we will all wait an extra 15 seconds when he gets to the front. Because I won’t deprive him of saving an hour for my stupid 15 seconds.
Applications:
Riding the shoulder (most people not willing to, because afraid of ticket).
Cutting around traffic (because most people not willing to because afraid they’ll have hard time getting in).
I will so cut you all off. Just you watch out for me flying down on the left side towards the battery tunnel and then jumping in right when it splits to go towards the brooklyn bridge.
Thank you for agreeing that that was not your position. It would have pained me to have been condescending to your actual position.
I doubt you will ever convince anyone about this, because you are simply arguing over whether it is perverse and wrong. You will not be able to convince them that it is.
And yes, from my perspective it is the same as marrying a dog. And the only distinction between them worth making is if you think that same-sex marriage is not perverse. I don’t think making silly distinctions helps anyone or gains you credibility with anyone.
Nor would you do anything with that credibility.
It’s not about winning–you won’t win. For me, it’s about knowing what I know and believe.
But hey, if you think you’ll convince someone and this is how, go for it. But I think you’ll have an easier time convincing them that it is perverse than that marriage requires a raised right paw on both sides.
It’s a bit condescending, and I do so very infrequently.
I only do so here because I am confident of it, and because I fully expected you to agree. And I still fully expect you to agree.
Also, I ought to point out that you have already conceded I was correct, because your first argument was based on rights (as if you can only marry if you have a right, which is ridiculous in itself), and then after my challenge, you now switched and say it is because it is impossible to be married without a dual oath (which somehow you insist is the integral part of marriage–you ask if a dog can raise its paw–I ask if a man with no hands can raise his hand and swear). (I’d also note that your arguments would not carry to incest or to plural marriages.)
The reason you object to men marrying dogs is that it is perverse and is not a relationship that society should value or give recognition to. And that is the reason I object to same-sex marriage, and the reason Hashem does also.
If you won’t agree that that is the reason, then I have no interest in debating it, since I think your position is just silliness.
Again, a cut reason, but I do not believe that you think that is the reason why. Because it is just being silly; you are making up arbitrary things that you think have to do with marriage and then drawing arbitrary lines wherever you want.
You know why you object to it. Just own up. Be a man.
Come now. That is cute, but cannot be your real reason. If the man is entitled to marriage, why must the other party also be entitled? Why would it not be enough for one party to be entitled?
You know why you object to it. There’s no reason to make silly reasons.
The case of a man and a dog is different. The man has the right to marry. The dog does not. The man unquestionably must find an equal partner for his marriage who has the right to marry him just as he has the right to marry her (or, according to some, him).
I see a technical difference, but I don’t see why that should make a difference. The man has a right to marry, and wishes to marry his dog.
If you are opposed because you don’t want to force the dog into marriage, we can dicker about that. But really? Is the objection really that you don’t want to force the dog into marriage against its dog will? I don’t believe you if you say that it your only or even principal objection.
the number of con law scholars on this board is astonishing.
Con law? What is that–slang for constitution law?
My aren’t we cooooooooooooooooooooooool
JF: No, I don’t think that is what vogue meant. I think she was using it as a crude example to show an idea.
Everybody I knew went in under a tourist visa and then just overstayed it. A few people renewed it, but you def don’t have to leave the country to do so–you just go down to the misrad hapnim.
When you leave, they yell at you for not renewing it, and sometimes write nasty and scary things on your passport. But you just tell them that the misrad hapnim was on strike (it isn’t lying, because it really was–you can look it up and check yourself). I didn’t check, so I just said nothing, and then came back and did it again.
goq is on a roll today